Team3S: 3000GT & Stealth Sunday, May
5 2002 Volume 01 : Number
832
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Date:
Sat, 4 May 2002 21:51:04 -0500
From: "William Jeffrey Crabtree" <
wjcrabtree@earthlink.net>
Subject:
Team3S: Water pump(quick ??)
I need to nuy one...who's got the best
price, and what should I pay?
- -Jeff
Crabtree
'91 R/T
TT(3SI#0499)
2K
Wrangler TJ
Sport
St. Louis, MO
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Date: Sat, 4 May 2002 20:04:48
-0700
From: "fastmax" <
fastmax@cox.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S:
Water pump(quick ??)
CAPS and Rockville Mitsu online says
---
MD997643
WATERP LIST $
104.15 $
83.32
82 sounds about
right.
Jim
Berry
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From: "William Jeffrey Crabtree" <
wjcrabtree@earthlink.net>
To:
"team3s" <
Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
Sent:
Saturday, May 04, 2002 7:51 PM
Subject: Team3S: Water pump(quick
??)
> I need to nuy one...who's got the best price, and what should I
pay?
>
> -Jeff
Crabtree
> '91 R/T
TT(3SI#0499)
>
2K Wrangler TJ
Sport
>
St. Louis, MO
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Date: Sat, 4 May 2002 22:09:34
-0500
From: "Richard Fennell" <
realmstl@charter.net>
Subject: Fw:
Team3S: Water pump(quick ??)
www.carparts.com has one for about $80 and
another OEM for $148.
www.partsamerica.com has a cheapy one for
$53 and a few in the $150 range
I noticed that Carparts has the
Beck/Arnley for $82.35 where as Parts
America has it for $128.69. The
nice thing about Partsamerica is that it's
tied with Advance Auto Parts,
which is local here in St. Louis. Maybe they
will do some sort of price
matching or at least come close.
Rich
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From: "William Jeffrey Crabtree" <
wjcrabtree@earthlink.net>
To:
"team3s" <
Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
Sent:
Saturday, May 04, 2002 9:51 PM
Subject: Team3S: Water pump(quick
??)
> I need to nuy one...who's got the best price, and what should I
pay?
>
> -Jeff Crabtree
> '91
R/T
TT(3SI#0499)
>
2K Wrangler TJ
Sport
>
St. Louis, MO
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Date: Sat, 4 May 2002 22:04:55
-0700 (PDT)
From: Kian Habib <
ill1027@yahoo.com>
Subject: Team3S:
blow-off valve??
I'm buying a vr-4 and someone has added a
blowoff
valve to it. I'm curious about what exactly that
performance wise
and is there any special care needed
for it etc. thanks!
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Date: Sun, 5 May 2002 09:07:02
-0700
From: "fastmax" <
fastmax@cox.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S:
blow-off valve??
Do a search for BOV at the team3S search page --- there
was a
thread within the last two weeks plus many others in the last
year
or two.
http://www.team3s.com/Search.htm
Jim berry
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From: "Kian Habib" <
ill1027@yahoo.com>
To: <
Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
Sent:
Saturday, May 04, 2002 10:04 PM
Subject: Team3S: blow-off valve??
>
I'm buying a vr-4 and someone has added a blowoff
> valve to it. I'm
curious about what exactly that
> performance wise and is there any
special care needed
> for it etc. thanks!
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Date: Sun, 5 May 2002 11:21:44
-0500
From: "xwing" <
xwing@wi.rr.com>
Subject: Team3S: Re:
Dis 4 HO
I am sorry to again see that Roger's case was not helped by a
DIS4,
but in my experience, which is also substantial, the DIS4
HO
absolutely SOLVED any ignition problem I had before installing
it,
while making NO other changes. I would hate to see some
people
avoid it because some got the idea from Roger's statement
that
there was a consensus opinion meriting a blanket statement
against
DIS4.
My 93 and 94 both had problems firing the mixture at
high
boost (more than 20psi) and especially high boost with nitrous
oxide.
I had narrowed plug gaps to .022-.024" which helped, but still
would
sometimes blow out the spark. Installed DIS4HO, and all
those
problems disappeared, and could open the plug gap out.
I don't
know why it didn't help Roger's car, though as I recall he only runs
16-18psi
due
to gasoline octane limitations; in that boost regime spark
blowout
wasn't generally a problem for me, and if could be solved by
narrowing plug
gap alone. I wonder if there was a different
problem with his ignition
system or setup, such as a marginal
coil, so coil replacement worked; while
firing a DIS4 through
a defective coil would not be expected to help.
Some components
show failure mode only with actual use, not Ohmmeter readings
etc.
I don't know.
At any rate, I would say that the DIS4 doesn't
ALWAYS help the ignition,
because it didn't help Roger. That is
clear.
However, IMO the best service is NOT given by making unqualified
blanket
statements that the
DIS4 "Without aftermarket coils it doesn't
help anything but beeing a large
2-stage rev limiter"...because in MY case,
and some others, it clearly DID
help.
Roger's experience is one
anectote. Mine is another anecdote. Therefore, a
fair
statement
would seem to be "The DIS4 sometimes solves, and sometimes does not
solve,
ignition problems on our cars."
Agreed? :)
From:
"Roger Gerl" <
roger.gerl@bluewin.ch>
> First,
many use a DIS4 (including me)
> Second, the HO was not available when
most of us bought the DIS4.
> Third, not many are using it because it's
not needed.
> Without aftermarket coils it doesn't help anything but
beeing a large
> 2-stage rev limiter.
> From: "cody" <
overclck@satx.rr.com>
> >
Curious about DIS4 HO. MSD
> > claims it works on 3000GT.
The HO version has
> > 170 millijoules spark energy. Why does no
one use this unit?
> > -Cody
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Date: Sun, 5 May 2002 11:29:28
-0500
From: "cody" <
overclck@satx.rr.com>
Subject: RE:
Team3S: Re: Dis 4 HO
Thanks for the info Jack... I knew there had
to be a good point to the
thing... If not, why would they sell it by
itself... Anyways... Aside
from the DIS 4 HO, what else will I
need for installation??? Someone
mentioned a Tach adapter - is this
necessary? How much does it cost???
Thanks..
-
-Cody
- -----Original Message-----
From:
owner-team3s@team3s.com
[mailto:owner-team3s@team3s.com] On Behalf
Of xwing
Sent: Sunday, May 05,
2002 11:22 AM
To:
team3s@stealth-3000gt.stSubject:
Team3S: Re: Dis 4 HO
I am sorry to again see that Roger's case was not
helped by a DIS4,
but in my experience, which is also substantial, the DIS4
HO
absolutely SOLVED any ignition problem I had before installing
it,
while making NO other changes. I would hate to see some
people
avoid it because some got the idea from Roger's statement
that
there was a consensus opinion meriting a blanket statement
against
DIS4.
My 93 and 94 both had problems firing the mixture at
high
boost (more than 20psi) and especially high boost with nitrous
oxide.
I had narrowed plug gaps to .022-.024" which helped, but still
would
sometimes blow out the spark. Installed DIS4HO, and all
those
problems disappeared, and could open the plug gap out.
I don't
know why it didn't help Roger's car, though as I recall he
only
runs
16-18psi due
to gasoline octane limitations; in that boost
regime spark
blowout wasn't generally a problem for me, and if could be
solved by
narrowing plug gap alone. I wonder if there was a
different
problem with his ignition system or setup, such as a
marginal
coil, so coil replacement worked; while firing a DIS4 through
a
defective coil would not be expected to help. Some components
show
failure mode only with actual use, not Ohmmeter readings etc.
I don't
know.
At any rate, I would say that the DIS4 doesn't ALWAYS help the
ignition,
because it didn't help Roger. That is
clear.
However, IMO the best service is NOT given by making unqualified
blanket
statements that the
DIS4 "Without aftermarket coils it doesn't
help anything but beeing a
large
2-stage rev limiter"...because in MY
case, and some others, it clearly
DID
help.
Roger's experience is one
anectote. Mine is another anecdote.
Therefore, a
fair
statement
would seem to be "The DIS4 sometimes solves, and sometimes does
not
solve,
ignition problems on our cars."
Agreed?
:)
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Date: Sun, 5 May 2002 12:43:19
-0500
From: "xwing" <
xwing@wi.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S:
Re: Dis 4 HO
Yes, you need 2 of the 2-channel "tach adapters" to bump up
the signal from
stock computer output, to the DIS4. Installing the
whole unit is a minor
hassle but not hard, just follow the wiring diagram MSD
supplies and be sure
you use the right diagram, with the tach adapters
installed via the
connectors MSD supplies/has installed already. Tach
adapters art number MSD
8912 are $49.95 each in Summit
catalog.
JT
From: "cody" <
overclck@satx.rr.com> Thanks for
the info Jack. Aside
> from the DIS 4 HO, what else will I
need for installation?
> Tach adapter - is this necessary? How much
does it cost?
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Date: Sun, 5 May 2002 14:55:02
-0400
From: "Rodriguez, Elpidio x35617d1" <
x35617@exmail.usma.army.mil>
Subject:
RE: Team3S: Best intake
Has anybody tried out the Altered Atmospere FIPK
or have any pictures of it?
- -ROD
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Date: Mon, 6 May 2002 00:42:52
+0200
From: "Roger Gerl" <
roger.gerl@bluewin.ch>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: Re: Dis 4 HO
The differnce may be the HO and normal version.
Many installed a DIS4 and
thought the problems are cured but the hesitations
and spark problems came
back afer a feek or two. In the end our stock coils
are the limitations as
well as the power transistors are. The later can
easily be cured by a good
amplifier like the DIS or TwinPower. The dyno
showed no gain of course and
not only myself had to regap the plugs down to
0.03" again. With the
appropriate coils the problems should be gone at any
boost.
When onyl replacing the coils helps against the problems what ist
the
benefit of an amplifier ? (double sark below 3k and two stage rev
limiter
not counted)
Roger
93'3000GT TT
www.rtec.ch- ----- Original Message
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From: "xwing" <
xwing@wi.rr.com>
To: <
team3s@stealth-3000gt.st>
Sent:
Sunday, May 05, 2002 6:21 PM
Subject: Team3S: Re: Dis 4 HO
> I am
sorry to again see that Roger's case was not helped by a DIS4,
> but in my
experience, which is also substantial, the DIS4 HO
> absolutely SOLVED any
ignition problem I had before installing it,
> while making NO other
changes. I would hate to see some people
> avoid it because some got
the idea from Roger's statement
> that there was a consensus opinion
meriting a blanket statement against
> DIS4.
>
> My 93 and 94
both had problems firing the mixture at high
....
<snipped>
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Date: Sun, 5 May 2002 18:51:36
-0500
From: "xwing" <
xwing@wi.rr.com>
Subject: Team3S: Re:
Re: Dis 4 HO
I've always been of the opinion that if the mixture lights,
it is lit, and
any more spark, wires, or boxes won't help any more...but if
it is NOT
lighting reliably, are starting to blow out, THEN an
amplifier/better coils
can help.
Separate from that is the nice feature of
being able to adjust the timing in
several ways, and have a 2 step rev
limiter, such as with DIS4.
Our cars do have marginal spark when pushing the
boost/hp upward; replacing
coils and/or adding DIS4HO box seem to help
nicely.
JT
From: "Roger Gerl" <
roger.gerl@bluewin.ch>
[snips]
> differnce may be the HO and normal version. Many installed DIS4
and
> thought the problems cured but hesitations/spark probs came
>
back afer a week or two. Our stock coils are limitations as
> well as
stock power transistors. The latter can be cured by good
> amplifier like
DIS or TwinPower. Dyno showed no gain
> and had to regap plugs down to
0.03" again. With
> appropriate coils problems should be gone at any
boost.
> When only replacing coils helps against the problems what
is
> benefit of an amplifier ? (double spark below 3k and two stage rev
limiter
> not counted)
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Date: Mon, 06 May 2002 09:57:03
+0800
From: "John Stegall III" <
jstegall@programmer.net>
Subject:
Team3S: Antenna Problems
My antenna recently stopped going up and down
when I turn the car (or radio) off and on. That was about 3 or 4 weeks
ago. Yesterday when I turned the car off, the little antenna motor
definately sounded like it was still trying to work, but made a rather nasty
grinding sound. I can hear the motor, so I doubt its much of a
problem. I'm sure others on the list have had problems with the
antenna. What typically tends to the be the problem (or more so does
anyone know what mine is?) and how can I get to the antenna motor to fix
it? Thanks.
John
1994 3000GT VR-4
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Date: Mon, 06 May 2002 09:59:13
+0800
From: "John Stegall III" <
jstegall@programmer.net>
Subject:
Team3S: Window Tinting - So Cal
Can anyone here on the list in southern
california recommend a good window tinting place? Cost means little to me,
it's all about quality. I don't want something that's going to bubble,
peel, or get a purple look to it, and of course, it has to look good.
Particularly in the orange county area, though I'm willing to drive a little if
it means an increase in quality. Thanks.
John
1994 3000GT
VR-4
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Date: Sun, 05 May 2002 20:30:46
-0600
From: Desert Fox <
bigfoot@simmgene.com>
Subject:
Team3S: VR-4 for Sale?
I have a buyer for a VR-4. Anyone selling please
email me off list to
provide details so that I can try to help out both him
and a list member at
the same time...
- --
Paul/.
95 black
3000GT VR-4
98 VFR800F, TBR aluminum hi exit
formerly reasonable and
prudent
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Date: Sun, 5 May 2002 19:41:23
-0700
From: "fastmax" <
fastmax@cox.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S:
Window Tinting - So Cal
My son-in-law [ a Ford mechanic ] had my wifes
car done --- the job looks great.
I'm not sure where he took it but I can
find out --- It's probably in the Irvine or
Mission viejo
area.
Jim Berry
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From: "John Stegall III" <
jstegall@programmer.net>
To:
<
Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
Sent:
Sunday, May 05, 2002 6:59 PM
Subject: Team3S: Window Tinting - So
Cal
> Can anyone here on the list in southern california recommend a
good window tinting place? Cost means little to me, it's all
about
quality. I don't want something that's going to bubble, peel, or
get a purple look to it, and of course, it has to look good.
Particularly in
the orange county area, though I'm willing to drive a little if it means an
increase in quality. Thanks.
>
> John
> 1994 3000GT
VR-4
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