Team3S: 3000GT & Stealth    Monday, April 22 2002    Volume 01 : Number 819




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Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2002 15:54:25 -0500
From: RJM <rjmsmail@swbell.net>
Subject: Team3S: Secret to removing fuel filter bottom eye-bolt?

Man, I can't fit an extension pipe in there on the 3/4" open-end wrench
or fit a ratchet/socket in there to get the bottom fuel filter eye-bolt
loose on my 1994  3000gt, there just isn't enough room and you can't get
to it from under the car.  Battery, battery plate, window washer
reservoir and window-washer reservoir bracket are removed.  I used
penetrating fluid but bolt doesn't look rusted anyways and it is way
over 22ft-lbs tight.   I used a socket/ratchet on the top one and a LOT
of force and it finally popped.   Wonder what the labor is to do one of
these things.    Geez......    Any ideas besides working out for a
couple of months?   Thanks.

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Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2002 13:59:54 -0700
From: Wayne <whietala@prodigy.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Secret to removing fuel filter bottom eye-bolt?

Remove the filter and put it in a vise.
Attach the "U" pipe to the new filter while in the vise also.

At 03:54 PM 4/21/02 -0500, RJM wrote:
>Man, I can't fit an extension pipe in there on the 3/4" open-end wrench
>or fit a ratchet/socket in there to get the bottom fuel filter eye-bolt
>loose on my 1994  3000gt, there just isn't enough room and you can't get
>to it from under the car.  Battery, battery plate, window washer
>reservoir and window-washer reservoir bracket are removed.  I used
>penetrating fluid but bolt doesn't look rusted anyways and it is way
>over 22ft-lbs tight.   I used a socket/ratchet on the top one and a LOT
>of force and it finally popped.   Wonder what the labor is to do one of
>these things.    Geez......    Any ideas besides working out for a
>couple of months?   Thanks.

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Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2002 15:29:49 -0600
From: "Zach Sauerman" <axemaddock@hotmail.com>
Subject: Team3S: Silence the door buzzer

Good afternoon.
Has anyone disconnected the door ajar buzzer/ beeper/ tone? I'm tired of
hearing it and would like to silence it.
I tried the archives without success. I'd like to know if anyone has done
this and if there are any tips or recommendations against doing this.
If anyone can tell me how to get to it and how best to silence it, I would
appreciate it.
Thank you,
Zach Sauerman
'94 Pearl Yellow TT

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Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2002 21:42:56 -0000
From: "Jeff Lucius" <jlucius@stealth316.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Please act : Ignition wire resistance measuring

Magnecor 8.5mm ~3 years old and 8,000 miles
#1 ~16" 8.69 kOhms ~6.5 kOhms/ft ~21.3 Ohms/mm
#3 ~12" 6.69 kOhms ~6.7 kOhms/ft ~22.0 Ohms/mm
#5  ~8" 4.74 kOhms ~7.1 kOhms/ft ~23.3 Ohms/mm

Jeff Lucius, http://www.stealth316.com/

- ---------- Original Message -------------
Subject: Re: Team3S: Please act : Ignition wire resistance measuring
Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2002 19:17:27 +0200
From: "Roger Gerl" <roger.gerl@bluewin.ch>
To: <Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>

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Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2002 16:52:17 -0500
From: RJM <rjmsmail@swbell.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Secret to removing fuel filter bottom eye-bolt?

Man I feel stupid, thanks Wayne, I figured it out by looking in the manual,
didn't see the fuel fitting pipe connector that would free the fuel filter
from the car.   Geez, you wouldn't know I have a Geophysics degree, thanks
MUCH for your help.   The eye bolt popped right off while I held the vice
down with my foot (I don't have the vice bolted in anywhere yet).
Bob

Wayne wrote:

> Remove the filter and put it in a vise.
> Attach the "U" pipe to the new filter while in the vise also.

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Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2002 16:57:05 -0500
From: "S. J Cowan" <sjc0u812@juno.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Silence the door buzzer

Zack:

It's a blue connector behind the radio.  Simply unplug it.  Closest to
the drivers side, up towards the top of that area, IIRC. 

Best,

SJ

On Sun, 21 Apr 2002 15:29:49 -0600 "Zach Sauerman"
<axemaddock@hotmail.com> writes:
> Good afternoon.
> Has anyone disconnected the door ajar buzzer/ beeper/ tone? I'm
> tired of
> hearing it and would like to silence it.
> I tried the archives without success. I'd like to know if anyone has
> done
> this and if there are any tips or recommendations against doing
> this.
> If anyone can tell me how to get to it and how best to silence it, I
> would
> appreciate it.
> Thank you,
> Zach Sauerman
> '94 Pearl Yellow TT

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Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2002 16:47:32 -0500
From: "Mark Wendlandt" <stealth_tt@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Secret to removing fuel filter bottom eye-bolt?

You need to remove the filter with the pipe attached.  There is a connection
at the other end of the "U" pipe.  The large end(19mm I believe) is fixed
and won't turn.  The other is a 14mm and I'd recommend using a flare nut
wrench on that one.  Hold the 19mm wrench(keep from twisting) and loosen the
14mm wrench.  Once removed, you can hold the filter with a thin wrench and
loosen the eye bolt.  You might want to replace the copper washers to be
sure that you don't get any leaks.

Mark Wendlandt
'91RT/TT

>From: RJM <rjmsmail@swbell.net>
>To: Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st
>Subject: Team3S: Secret to removing fuel filter bottom eye-bolt?
>Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2002 15:54:25 -0500
>
>Man, I can't fit an extension pipe in there on the 3/4" open-end wrench
>or fit a ratchet/socket in there to get the bottom fuel filter eye-bolt
>loose on my 1994  3000gt, there just isn't enough room and you can't get
>to it from under the car.  Battery, battery plate, window washer
>reservoir and window-washer reservoir bracket are removed.  I used
>penetrating fluid but bolt doesn't look rusted anyways and it is way
>over 22ft-lbs tight.   I used a socket/ratchet on the top one and a LOT
>of force and it finally popped.   Wonder what the labor is to do one of
>these things.    Geez......    Any ideas besides working out for a
>couple of months?   Thanks.

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Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2002 19:18:34 EDT
From: M3000GTSL84@aol.com
Subject: Re: Team3S: Silence the door buzzer

definitly cant stand that chime. . ive looked for a fuse but there isnt a
specific one for it. . if any1 has any ideas it would be appreciated.

- -mike
97 SL

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Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2002 20:44:47 -0600
From: "Mike & Cathy" <micajoco@theofficenet.com>
Subject: Team3S: turbo leak

How much of a oil leak in the turbos would it take to cause smoke out the
exhaust? I don't get any smoke until I put a load on the turbos. There is a
small residue around the rear rubber seal on the back turbo and in the IC
tube from the rear turbo. Turbos seem to spool up okay with power.
Mike S 92 rt tt

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Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2002 21:49:49 -0500
From: "William Jeffrey Crabtree" <wjcrabtree@earthlink.net>
Subject: Team3S: O2 Sensors

I need to replace 'em.  Where can I get them and do I have any choices?

- -Jeff Crabtree
     '91 R/T TT(3SI#0499)
          2K Wrangler TJ Sport
               St. Louis, MO

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Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2002 23:51:46 -0400
From: Anthony Melillo <anthonymelillo3@comcast.net>
Subject: Team3S: best spark plugs for 1997 VR-4

I know this will spark (no pun intended) a big discussion, but I am looking for suggestions on replacing my spark plugs on my 1997
VR-4.

I have some minor mods, hope to add more later, and have used Splitfire plugs on my VR-4 and the DOHC NA that I had previously and
the plugs were fantastic.

But, now that it is time to change my plugs, I have some minor mods to my VR-4 and was wondering what plugs would offer the best
performance ?

More info on my car can be found here:
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/anthonymelillo3/3000gt.htm

Thanks
Anthony Melillo
1997 VR-4, Firestorm Red

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Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 04:40:18 +0000
From: apedenko@attbi.com
Subject: Team3S: Boost contol solenoid (kinda long)

I think I have the same problem as was just being
discussed:

On the highway, in traffic - I started noticing that
the few chances I got to floor it, the _stock_ boost
gauge was showing around 7psi. I even noticed a
pattern. If I spend some time just crawling along and
then floor it, it goes to 7. If I downshift and get it
to higher RPMs, it might crawl up higher, but not much.
After a few times of WOT, it gets to the 7, slows down
and then gets by it and jumps all the way to 14 (i know
it's 12, but mine has always shown 14) and has no
problems getting there afterwards. If after that I
spend some time standing still, or at least at low
boost, the cycle repeats

Okay - so I'm thinking it's got to be something with
the boost control - because of that magical 7. The car
has no problem getting to it, and that's where the
waste gates start to kick in. But the question is what
part of the control circuit is dying - is it the ECU,
the solenoid itself or the wiring that actuates it?

It's almost as if the solenoid itself is getting stuck
and then fights through.

But is that possible? A solenoid is just a metal core
inside an inductor, right?

Also - if it is just the solenoid dying, is this a good
time to put in a boost controller? Does an aftermarket
one replace the solenoid or does it splice itself in
alongside? Does anyone know what the solenoid costs?

Thanks,
  Alex

'95 VR4

P.S. For those that remember my frantic pleas for help,
I made it to Chicago just fine. I'm starting to think
its not the bearing after all, but I'll post that in
another email.

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Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 04:48:41 +0000
From: apedenko@attbi.com
Subject: Team3S: Brake clearances

Okay - I'm trying to figure out what's wrong with my
car - if it's the wheel bearing or the caliper.

This weekend (before I had to drive to chicago), the
front driver side wheel start making a high pitched
noise, sort of like a belt noise. After the drive to
chicago the noise went away. I thought it was a wheel
bearing, but it was uncharacteristic of a bearing noise
because it didn't change from turning, or from
different speeds.

I'm starting to think it's the brake pads and hence my
question. With the brakes _not_ engaged, how much
clearance should there be between the pad and the disc?

On mine, I couldn't fit a piece of paper in between.
This makes me think that (whether it should be like
this or not) my brake pads are always in contact with
the rotor. That would explain why the noise went away -
the pad wore down some more, past the part that was
making the noise. That would also explain why my car
vibrates at speed - my rotors are really warped and if
i'm driving with my brakes always on, at higher speeds
it would show up as the same type of vibration as when
I brake.

Is this normal? Or should there be a noticeable
difference? If there should be a larger clearance,
what's at fault?

Thanks,

  Alex.

'95 Vr4

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Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2002 22:17:49 -0700
From: "Bradford J. Gay" <bradfordjgay@charter.net>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Silence the door buzzer

It's actually really easy.  Just pull out the button thing/sensor and
disconnect it.  It had been done to mine when I bought it.  I actually
reconnected it so the alarm would work and the interior lights would
turn on, etc.

- -Brad
 '97 VR-4

- -----Original Message-----
From: owner-team3s@team3s.com [mailto:owner-team3s@team3s.com] On Behalf
Of M3000GTSL84@aol.com
Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2002 4:19 PM
To: Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st
Subject: Re: Team3S: Silence the door buzzer

definitly cant stand that chime. . ive looked for a fuse but there isnt
a
specific one for it. . if any1 has any ideas it would be appreciated.

- -mike
97 SL

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Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 01:01:26 US/Central
From: tds@brightok.net
Subject: RE: Team3S: Silence the door buzzer

> It's actually really easy.  Just pull out the button thing/sensor and
> disconnect it.  It had been done to mine when I bought it.  I actually
> reconnected it so the alarm would work and the interior lights would
> turn on, etc.
>
> -Brad
>  '97 VR-4
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> definitly cant stand that chime. . ive looked for a fuse but there isnt
> a
> specific one for it. . if any1 has any ideas it would be appreciated.
>
> -mike
> 97 SL

- -------------------------------------------------------------
That's the problem with pulling the fuse to kill the buzzer -
there are also other items (like the interior lights) on the
same fuse.  The main circuits are printed on the fuse box cover,
along with the fuse rating in amps. 

- - tds
This message was sent using BrightNet MailMan.
http://www.Brightok.net/mailman/

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Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2002 23:01:41 -0700
From: "Riyan Mynuddin" <riyan@hotpop.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Car wont start help needed

martin/team3s-

I'm glad to help, especially since you all helped me get my baby running. I have other cars, but this is the only one I really like. Now if I wasn't so damn busy, I'd throw my newly gained knowledge into the FAQ pages. I definetely will one of these days.

Riyan

93 stealth rt tt
stock
http://www.advantedgecomputing.com/stllow/stealth.htm


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ON:
Sunday, April 21, 2002 7:44 AM

Jeff wrote:

Yippee my car is running again.
Thanks to everyone who responded to my plea.
Especially Jeff Lucius and Riyan who pointed me in the right direction.
It turned out to be the fuel pump relay under the air box.
<cut>

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Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 02:07:38 -0400
From: "Dan Johnson" <hiimdan74@yahoo.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Silence the door buzzer

Quote:
>I actually  reconnected it so the alarm would work and >the interior lights
would turn on, etc.

Here's what I did.  I wrapped it up with electrical tape until I could
barely here it.   It worked out well.

Dan Johnson

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Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 03:37:35 -0700
From: "Team3S-Admin" <Team3S@bobforrest.com>
Subject: Team3S: Admin Note (OT): Team3S logo labels sold illegally on 3Si 'board'.

About 1/3 of Team3S members are also members of 3Si.  As many of you might
be aware, there is a message board on the 3Si website.  It has come to our
attention that someone (who is not even a Team3S member) has been posting to
that board claiming that Team3S logo labels are for sale!?!  Please be
advised that selling anything with our logo on it without permission is
illegal.  We are taking care of this issue, but in the meantime, here are a
few facts "for the UNaware" among us:

1)  Team3S is NOT associated with the 3Si website in any way other than
through a long-term friendship with the site's owner.  Although the Team3S
Admins (and some of our long-time members) are among the "founding fathers"
of the group we created in 1997/1998 called "3000GT / Stealth
International", Team3S and 3Si.org are separate entities that developed from
those origins.

2)  The Team3S and 3Si logos were designed by Bob Forrest, who kept them
similar for cohesiveness when we dealt with vendors, Chrysler, Mitsubishi,
etc.  As has been the case since the logo was first published in 1995,
whenever that logo appears on a web page it is supposed to carry the
following copyright notice,
"Copyright 1995-2002, Bob Forrest.  All Rights Reserved."

3)  FYI, the similar "S3" logo {numbered} membership label used by 3Si was
designed by Todd Shelton, and the {script} "3Si" logo used by 3Si was
designed by "Xannieria" (Wei-Lik).  The {Chrome Letters} 3Si logo was
designed by Bob Forrest, and is similarly copyrighted (1998).  Logos are
"intellectual property", authored and owned by the designers.  Usage is by
permission only, which must be obtained in writing from the respective
authors of the logos.

4)  The Team3S logo (and both 3Si logos) which were designed by Bob Forrest
may be used by anyone on their website *as long as* they carry the proper
copyright notice, as above, and providing that they are not resized,
renamed, or changed in any way.  The Team3S and 3Si logos may NOT be used to
make a product for sale without expressed written permission from the
copyright holder.  EVER.

- -:-

Since this is off-topic, please keep replies to the Admins private and off
the list.  Now back to your regularly scheduled Q & A...

The Admins, Team3S
www.Team3S.com

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Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 08:31:05 -0500
From: "Willis, Charles E." <cewillis@TexasChildrensHospital.org>
Subject: RE: Team3S: engine dress up

the PCV valve is the part that screws into the back side of the front bank
valve cover.  The PCV hose connects onto the PCV valve and goes back to the
intake manifold plenum. 

> If the PCV hose is just a rigid hose/tube then where IS the PCV check
> valve?  I feel my PCV hose is clogged. 

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Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 08:40:07 -0500
From: "Willis, Charles E." <cewillis@TexasChildrensHospital.org>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Secret to removing fuel filter bottom eye-bolt?

- and you are guaranteed to get several skinned knuckles in the
process!

>    I used a socket/ratchet on the top one and a LOT
> of force and it finally popped.

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Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 10:43:20 -0400
From: "Darren Schilberg" <dschilberg@pobox.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: engine dress up

Yep.  Once Roger said the check valve portion was inside then I knew
where to look.  Mine will get replaced very soon.  I'll check the hose
but think it is going to be just fine.

Thanks.

- --Flash!
1995 VR-4

- -----Original Message-----
From: Willis, Charles E.
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 09:31
 
the PCV valve is the part that screws into the back side of the front
bank
valve cover.  The PCV hose connects onto the PCV valve and goes back to
the
intake manifold plenum. 

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Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 07:47:45 -0700
From: "fastmax" <fastmax@cox.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Silence the door buzzer

It's been awhile so I 'think' the buzzer is behind the radio --- all I did
was disconnect the damn buzzer. Everything works except the noisy
part.

I also disabled the clutch interlock ---- it must be something Nader came
up with --- I've never had much trouble remembering to put the car in
neutral before starting it. Now if I just had the ambition to tackle the
almost obscenely stupid button you have to push to remove the key.
If anyone knows the reason behind that idiotic idea please let me know,
In all my years of driving I've never had the key fall out --- even when the
car was on it's side.

        Jim Berry
=====================================================

- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Bradford J. Gay" <bradfordjgay@charter.net>
To: "Team3S" <team3s@team3s.com>
Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2002 10:17 PM
Subject: RE: Team3S: Silence the door buzzer

> It's actually really easy.  Just pull out the button thing/sensor and
> disconnect it.  It had been done to mine when I bought it.  I actually
> reconnected it so the alarm would work and the interior lights would
> turn on, etc.
>
> -Brad
>  '97 VR-4

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Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 07:49:38 -0700
From: "fastmax" <fastmax@cox.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Brake clearances

If it's the brakes causing the noise, simply pressing the pedal
will cause the noise to vary or go away.

        Jim Berry
========================================
- ----- Original Message -----
From: <apedenko@attbi.com>
To: <team3s@team3s.com>
Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2002 9:48 PM
Subject: Team3S: Brake clearances

> Okay - I'm trying to figure out what's wrong with my
> car - if it's the wheel bearing or the caliper.
>
> This weekend (before I had to drive to chicago), the
> front driver side wheel start making a high pitched
> noise, sort of like a belt noise. After the drive to
> chicago the noise went away. I thought it was a wheel
> bearing, but it was uncharacteristic of a bearing noise
> because it didn't change from turning, or from
> different speeds.
>
> I'm starting to think it's the brake pads and hence my
> question. With the brakes _not_ engaged, how much
> clearance should there be between the pad and the disc?
>
> On mine, I couldn't fit a piece of paper in between.
> This makes me think that (whether it should be like
> this or not) my brake pads are always in contact with
> the rotor. That would explain why the noise went away -
> the pad wore down some more, past the part that was
> making the noise. That would also explain why my car
> vibrates at speed - my rotors are really warped and if
> i'm driving with my brakes always on, at higher speeds
> it would show up as the same type of vibration as when
> I brake.
>
> Is this normal? Or should there be a noticeable
> difference? If there should be a larger clearance,
> what's at fault?
>
> Thanks,
>
>   Alex.
>
> '95 Vr4

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Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 10:59:56 -0400
From: "Darren Schilberg" <dschilberg@pobox.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Silence the door buzzer

A long time ago it was mentioned that a certain driver rarely has flying
monkeys inside his car so his chance of a key being pulled from the
ignition is slim to none.  I have a second gen so I don't have that
ignition button key release function.  I don't like it either.  I don't
wanna open the can of worms again but it is in the archives.  I think it
was someone who had a busted ignition lock and nobody wanted to replace
it for anything under $200 until he found a locksmith who picked it and
said, $20 please.  Something like that.  But the little button jammed
and he could not get a key in or out and left it in the ignition but
with a second key locked the door.

What's this about putting the car in neutral before starting it, Jim?

- --Flash
1995 VR-4

- -----Original Message-----
From: fastmax
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 10:48
 
It's been awhile so I 'think' the buzzer is behind the radio --- all I
did
was disconnect the damn buzzer. Everything works except the noisy
part.

I also disabled the clutch interlock ---- it must be something Nader
came
up with --- I've never had much trouble remembering to put the car in
neutral before starting it. Now if I just had the ambition to tackle the
almost obscenely stupid button you have to push to remove the key.
If anyone knows the reason behind that idiotic idea please let me know,
In all my years of driving I've never had the key fall out --- even when
the
car was on it's side.

        Jim Berry

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Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 08:16:52 -0700
From: "fastmax" <fastmax@cox.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Silence the door buzzer

- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Darren Schilberg" <dschilberg@pobox.com>

> What's this about putting the car in neutral before starting it, Jim?
>
> --Flash

The clutch interlock requires that you depress the clutch to start
the car --- This was designed is as a result of a study done by the
government that determined that the people of the United States
were a bunch if incompetent morons who weren't smart enough
to start a car without killing someone. Nowadays it's not sufficent
to have the car in park before starting you have to have your foot
on the brake before you can shift.

Or as the rabbit said  "what a bunch of maroons".

        Jim Berry

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Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 11:22:31 -0400
From: "Furman, Russell" <RFurman2@MassMutual.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Silence the door buzzer

Lets not take this discussion there.........   Only in America does this
extreme level of "concern for the safety of the general public" occur.

Now onto the tech part of my email, could I simply remove the drivers side
ECU access panel to find the buzzer?  If so what does the thing look like
(don't really want to cut the wrong wires) it would really ruin my day.

Thanks
Russ F
CT

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Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 11:29:40 -0400
From: "Darren Schilberg" <dschilberg@pobox.com>
Subject: Clutch interlock (was: RE: Team3S: Silence the door buzzer)

I do know that I have to push the clutch in to start the car.  Even if
it is in neutral.  I don't mind.  Keeps a young kid from starting the
car just by turning the key.  I don't have an automatic so I don't have
to put it in park first.  It has also been ingrained in my head from
driving manual cars since I was 16 and you always put in the clutch and
brake.  Even on my wife's New Beetle which is an automatic I push the
brake down to start the car even though it is in Park.  Habit.  I don't
mind it though.  Safer than the alternative of forgetting the car is in
gear and jumping forward into a nice Jaguar.

- --Flash!
1995 VR-4

- -----Original Message-----
From: fastmax [mailto:fastmax@cox.net]
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 11:17

> What's this about putting the car in neutral before starting it, Jim?

The clutch interlock requires that you depress the clutch to start
the car --- This was designed is as a result of a study done by the
government that determined that the people of the United States
were a bunch if incompetent morons who weren't smart enough
to start a car without killing someone. Nowadays it's not sufficent
to have the car in park before starting you have to have your foot
on the brake before you can shift.

        Jim Berry

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Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 09:43:36 -0700
From: "tri" <thn@dexray.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Questions 1999 base model

I just looked at the picture. The '99 has a moonroof and chrome rims. Are
you sure that has an SOHC engine? It might be an SL with a DOHC. Unless I'm
mistaken and they made SL's with SOHC's. I'm pretty sure the base models
didn't have a moonroof and chrome rims.
- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Matt Costanza" <mcostanza@austin.rr.com>
To: <team3s@team3s.com>
Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2002 9:42 AM
Subject: Re: Team3S: Questions 1999 base model

> Exactly. No matter how good the car looks, the base model is still a very
> under powered car. The base model carries the same amount of weight as the
> SL. The VR4 is a bit heavier due to the all wheel drive.
>
> Look for a SL or a VR4. You will be much happier with the performance.
>
> Regards,
> --
> Matt Costanza
> Austin, Tx USA
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Philip V. Glazatov <gphilip@umich.edu>
> To: <team3s@team3s.com>
> Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2002 12:20 AM
> Subject: RE: Team3S: Questions 1999 base model
>
> > The only attractive thing about this car is that now it is only 3 years
> > old. But in two years it will be just another 5+ year old car with an
> > underpowered engine. I'd get an earlier year low mileage V6 for less
> money.
> > It will last longer, hold value better, be easier to sell, and more
> > pleasurable to drive.
> >
> > Philip
> >
> > At 00:26 4/21/2002, cody wrote:
> > >Honestly, pretty pathetic when compared to most other 3/S...  161 HP...
> > >SOHC's were in 97-99 base model 3000's...  (not trying t o put down the
> > >SOHC guys, its just a fact...)
> > >
> > >-Cody

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Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 16:43:23 +0000
From: apedenko@attbi.com
Subject: Re: Team3S: Brake clearances

The noise went away after my drive to chicago (~260mi)

Do the wear indicators in the pads start off
intermittent? By that I mean are there several layers
of the wear indicators, so that it goes on, goes off,
goes on, etc.

Also, what are the specs for the brake clearances? I
find it hard to believe that the pads are always in
contact with the rotors by design.

Thanks,
Alex.

> If it's the brakes causing the noise, simply pressing the pedal
> will cause the noise to vary or go away.
>
>         Jim Berry
> ========================================

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Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 09:50:10 -0700 (PDT)
From: Geoff Mohler <gemohler@www.speedtoys.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Brake clearances

Wear indicators arent in grades, if the rotor has a few thou of warp, then
it'll be hit & miss with the indicator.

And no..theyre not really in contact, but theyre only BARELY out of it by
design.

On Mon, 22 Apr 2002 apedenko@attbi.com wrote:

> The noise went away after my drive to chicago (~260mi)
>
> Do the wear indicators in the pads start off
> intermittent? By that I mean are there several layers
> of the wear indicators, so that it goes on, goes off,
> goes on, etc.
>
> Also, what are the specs for the brake clearances? I
> find it hard to believe that the pads are always in
> contact with the rotors by design.
>
> Thanks,
> Alex.

- ---
Geoff Mohler

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Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 11:47:52 -0500
From: "cody" <overclck@satx.rr.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Brake clearances

The pads ~are~ always in close contact with the rotor...  They simply
"fly" over the surface at speed...  The Wear indicator is a metal tab
protruding from the edge of the pad... once worn to a certain level, it
contacts the rotor under, at first, heavy braking, then less and less
effort is needed, and eventually it is in contact with the rotor all the
time... 

- -Cody

- -----Original Message-----
From: owner-team3s@team3s.com [mailto:owner-team3s@team3s.com] On Behalf
Of apedenko@attbi.com
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 11:43 AM
To: fastmax
Cc: team3s@team3s.com
Subject: Re: Team3S: Brake clearances

The noise went away after my drive to chicago (~260mi)

Do the wear indicators in the pads start off
intermittent? By that I mean are there several layers
of the wear indicators, so that it goes on, goes off,
goes on, etc.

Also, what are the specs for the brake clearances? I
find it hard to believe that the pads are always in
contact with the rotors by design.

Thanks,
Alex.

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Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 10:48:09 -0600
From: Desert Fox <bigfoot@simmgene.com>
Subject: Team3S: Dash speakers, brake bleeding...

Ever since I got my VR-4, it seemed that the dash speakers were doing little
if anything. It also seemed that the door speakers were kinda whimpy too.
Yesterday, I got around to investigating and sure enough, there was no sound
coming from the dash 2.75" speakers. I hooked up a Jensen 1/2" dome tweeter
and viola! hi-frequency sound came forth! These little things were like $29
at Wal-Mart. They have a crossover built-in and are rating to 100 watts.

I thought I remembered Erik or someone showing how they put some 1" tweeters
into the grill from the original dash speakers but couldn't find the URL. I
was in the mood for some custom work and proceeded to scribe out the
circular pattern onto a piece of plastic that was formerly a 5.25" floppy
disc case. The color and the texture of this plastic is remarkably similar
to the color and texture of the dash. Using my second most favorite tool
(after of course the hammer), I hacksawed the rough size, then Dremel tooled
it to a circular shape that plugged the dash cutouts perfectly. Next step
was to decide whether to mount the tweeters flush or to use the surface
mount "domes" to have them facing the passengers instead of facing up at the
windshield. This involved using the supplied screws to screw the base to the
mounting plug and drilling a hole to pull the wires through. Mega hi
frequency response very audible when adjusting the 3.5khz and 10Khz
equalizer bands. I wanted to try this surface mount first as it will be very
easy to convert to the flush mount, if I choose to later on simply by
cutting the "doughnut hole" from the center of my mounting disc

So all is well? Not exactly... While going through all of this, I noticed a
huge difference in the driver's side door speaker vs. the passenger side
speaker. I think the woofer is blown and the tweeter is probably about shot
too. Moving around the equalizer settings makes little difference when
testing out this driver's side door speaker while there is significant
difference in sound when the same is done to the right hand side. So, Jeff's
page shows how he installed Infinity Kappa 63.1 6.5" door speakers and I'm
seeing myself doing the same. Then later on down the road, after my wallet
catches its breath, I would like to replace the rear 6x9 speakers.

Any heads up or gotchas other than what Jeff has so kindly illustrated on
his site? Are the Infinity speakers the way to go? I know that the
sub-woofer issue is pretty much insurmountable with the stock stereo. Any
new news or ideas on how to get a sub incorporated into the stock system?
Are we at 100 watts with the stock system?

Another totally unrelated oddity is that every since I got my clutch redone,
I have what appear to be stuck pixels on the LCD display of my head unit. It
looks like a blob of orange pixels in between the two digits that display CD
track number. Cosmetic issue only but I'd love to find out why all of a
sudden it started doing this.

Gonna flush the cooling system today and refill with the Water Wetter setup.
Also plan to replace the brake fluid with the DOT 4 and vacuum pump bleeder
I purchased yesterday. Brake sequence is right rear, left front, left rear,
right front... Right? Car running while doing the drain & bleed, right?

- --
Paul/.
95 black 3000GT VR-4
98 VFR800F, TBR aluminum hi exit
formerly reasonable and prudent

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Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 11:50:50 -0500
From: "Willis, Charles E." <cewillis@TexasChildrensHospital.org>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Dash speakers, brake bleeding...

yes.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Desert Fox [SMTP:bigfoot@simmgene.com]
> Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 11:48 AM
> To: Team 3S list
> Cc: dschilberg@pobox.com
> Subject: Team3S: Dash speakers, brake bleeding...
>
> Also plan to replace the brake fluid with the DOT 4 and vacuum pump
> bleeder
> I purchased yesterday. Brake sequence is right rear, left front, left
> rear,
> right front... Right? Car running while doing the drain & bleed, right?

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Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 09:56:26 -0700
From: "Gross, Erik" <erik.gross@intel.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Silence the door buzzer

> Now onto the tech part of my email, could I simply remove the
> drivers side ECU access panel to find the buzzer?

Not really - it'd be hard to see from there.  It's actually closer to the
passenger's side.  The easiest way I've found is to remove the radio (1 trim
ring, 4 screws, and a couple of wiring plugs if you need to pull it all the
way out).  It's a blue harness behind the radio kinda "up and to the right"
as you face the radio.  Open the door, put the key in the ignition, and
you'll home in on the harness easily :)  AFAIK, that harness is only for the
buzzer, so you can just disconnect it and not worry about cutting/splicing
any wires.

- --Erik

Side note:  apparently, that buzzer does serve other purposes as well...  in
my VR-4, after you turn the ignition to "ON,"  the buzzer is on all the time
and never, ever goes off.   I think if I listen to the fluctuations in the
buzzer tone, I can hear it saying, "You IDIOT, you hit a wall and your
airbags deployed!  WHY, oh WHY are you trying to drive me?"

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Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 10:05:45 -0700
From: "Pete" <pbozanich@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: low boost

I don,t have any pre cats or the main cat. I took them out when I did the
exhaust system. I made an intake pressure system this weekend, I found a
couple leaks that I fixed but still only boosts to 5lbs. Im not sure what it
is Im leaning towards the turbos but I thought they would smoke and they
definetley do not. This is getting very frustrating. Thanks for any help.

Pete

- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Andrew Woll" <awoll1@pacbell.net>
To: <Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2002 9:17 AM
Subject: Re: Team3S: low boost

> Absolutely right about clogged cats. Not only may it affect boost, but it
> can cause engine overheating as well. I just replaced the cat on my BMW
and
> it fixed a two year old problem of constant overheating in traffic. Great
> advice.

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Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 13:57:10 -0400
From: romachka21@netscape.net (Roman)
Subject: RE: Re: Team3S: low boost

I have the same problem in my 94 vr-4.

The way mine works is when the car is hot or I am driving in traffic or just on the street it will not boost past 5psi. On the other had if I am on the highway and dive it at low rpm's like 2-2.7k it will boost normally.
You can do the same test on your car. Take to the highway go about 70mph for 2 min in 6th and then see if it will boost. Mine boosts fine at that point.
I have posted a similar question on the list and had no luck in getting any answers.
I do not think its the solenoid nor the wastegates and specialy not the turbos since it will boost fine when the car is cool/ low temperature.

If someone had this type of an issue and can shed some advise it would make my life so much easier. I just hate driving my car at 5psi.

I just ordered a boost controller and will install it in about 2 weeks. We will see if that fixes it but I hate going that route especialy if it is not the stock solenoid that is bad. AAM recommended that I put a boost contoller and a blow off valve to fix the issue but they are full of shit. I spend $12,000 on a brand new motor clutch etc... and thats all they can say. I am not happy with them at all.

Roman G. 94 vr-4

"Pete" <pbozanich@hotmail.com> wrote:

>I don,t have any pre cats or the main cat. I took them out when I did the
>exhaust system. I made an intake pressure system this weekend, I found a
>couple leaks that I fixed but still only boosts to 5lbs. Im not sure what it
>is Im leaning towards the turbos but I thought they would smoke and they
>definetley do not. This is getting very frustrating. Thanks for any help.
>
>Pete

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Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 11:54:07 -0700
From: "Pete" <pbozanich@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Re: Team3S: low boost

Roman, thanks for the info but that hasn't cured my problem, hot or cold
still only 5lbs. I put it back to the stock boost controller (5lbs). Blitz
controller (5lbs).
Thanks,

Pete
- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Roman" <romachka21@netscape.net>
To: ""Pete"" <pbozanich@hotmail.com>; ""Andrew Woll"" <awoll1@pacbell.net>;
<Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 10:57 AM
Subject: RE: Re: Team3S: low boost

> I have the same problem in my 94 vr-4.
>
> The way mine works is when the car is hot or I am driving in traffic or
just on the street it will not boost past 5psi. On the other had if I am on
the highway and dive it at low rpm's like 2-2.7k it will boost normally.
> You can do the same test on your car. Take to the highway go about 70mph
for 2 min in 6th and then see if it will boost. Mine boosts fine at that
point.
> I have posted a similar question on the list and had no luck in getting
any answers.
> I do not think its the solenoid nor the wastegates and specialy not the
turbos since it will boost fine when the car is cool/ low temperature.
>
> If someone had this type of an issue and can shed some advise it would
make my life so much easier. I just hate driving my car at 5psi.
>
> I just ordered a boost controller and will install it in about 2 weeks. We
will see if that fixes it but I hate going that route especialy if it is not
the stock solenoid that is bad. AAM recommended that I put a boost contoller
and a blow off valve to fix the issue but they are full of shit. I spend
$12,000 on a brand new motor clutch etc... and thats all they can say. I am
not happy with them at all.
>
> Roman G. 94 vr-4

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Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 18:45:00 +0000
From: mjannusch@attbi.com
Subject: Re: Re: Team3S: low boost

> Roman, thanks for the info but that hasn't cured my
> problem, hot or cold still only 5lbs. I put it back
> to the stock boost controller (5lbs). Blitz
> controller (5lbs).

Disconnect the line from your boost controller to the
wastegates and carefully accelerate and see if you get
more than 5 psi of boost.  If you do, then your boost
controller(s) are hooked up wrong or not functioning
properly.

Also make sure that the signal hose from your blowoff
valve is properly hooked up to the manifold pressure
line on top of the throttle body.  If it isn't, it'll
leak tons of boost out back into the intake.

- -Matt
'95 3000GT Spyder VR4

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Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 15:19:50 -0400
From: "Rodriguez, Elpidio   x35617d1" <x35617@exmail.usma.army.mil>
Subject: Team3S: DSBC/Exhaust Question

Has anybody tried a dual stage manual boost controller(DSBC) such as the
Turbo XS? Just cut and paste this ridiculously long link if you want to read
about it. Also, I'm trying to decide on what cat-back system to buy for my
VR-4. I've kinda narrowed it down to the BORLA and ATR ones. Both are pretty
expensive though. A few years ago my brother bought a cat-back system for
his Camaro. He had a local muffler shop try replicate it using very
near-same quality pipes. The guy at the muffler shop was pretty good at
using the bending machine and came up with something that looked very
similar to the original one. In fact, if you took the muffler section away,
you really couldn't have distinguished which was which except for the pipe
material.  He ended up buying the same exact muffler and tips and installing
the copied system and sold the store-bought one. He saved over $300. Sure,
it wasn't bolt on and the quality pipe was not exactly the same, but unless
you plan on keeping that car for 20 years, does it really matter? And how
many times do you actually say, hmmn? it's a nice sunny day, I think I'll
change my exhaust system today? So the bolt on convenience is not much.
Sorry for the clutter, but what do you all think?

- -ROD

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Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 15:22:28 -0400
From: "Rodriguez, Elpidio   x35617d1" <x35617@exmail.usma.army.mil>
Subject: RE: Team3S: DSBC/Exhaust Question

Sorry, I accidently clicked send without inserting the link I was talking
about. Here it is.

http://www.ptuning.com/html/Item-Desc.cfm?PartNo=PTDBC&MakeCode=mitsub&Model
Code=3000gt&ModelYear=1991%2D1999%20VR%2D4%20Twin%20Turbo&ModelDesc=3000GT

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Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 13:54:51 -0600
From: "Curtis McConnell" <Curtis.McConnell@pulte.com>
Subject: Team3S: ARC II and Injectors for sale

Hey Everyone,

I had a buyer for the ARC II but he backed out. So if anyone is interested.

ARC- just reprogrammed to the R5 (Revision 5, latest revision) and all new wiring. -$700 obo.

RC 550cc injectors 500 mi on them - $300 +stock injectors.

E-mail me if interested, I'm going to post them on 3 si tomorrow if no one is interested.

Curtis
1995 Vr-4 Spyder

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Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 13:20:26 -0700
From: Damon Rachell <damonr@mefas.com>
Subject: Team3S: TMO datalogger for sale...

I have a slightly used TMO datalogger with software for sale.  This
works great on the 1st gens.  I'm asking $150 shipped for it.  Let me
know if you're interested.

Thanks
Damon

PS- selling cuz lap top broke and won't be buying a new one for a while.
  Guess the laptops aren't really made to take 1G turns like the rest of
the car!!!

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Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 16:26:47 -0400
From: "Chris" <cm1994@qx.net>
Subject: RE: Team3S: DSBC/Exhaust Question

I have a similar setup on my car using the valve from www.boostvalve.com
With this setup I can toggle between the stock boost setting and the
adjustable setting on the boost valve only.  You simple use the stock
solenoid and put a toggle switch in the power wire to turn it off and on.
Real easy to do!  Directions here : http://www.boostvalve.com/tech/3s.html

Chris McFarland
93 Stealth R/T TT

- -----Original Message-----
Sorry, I accidently clicked send without inserting the link I was talking
about. Here it is.

http://www.ptuning.com/html/Item-Desc.cfm?PartNo=PTDBC&MakeCode=mitsub&Model
Code=3000gt&ModelYear=1991%2D1999%20VR%2D4%20Twin%20Turbo&ModelDesc=3000GT

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Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 22:30:00 +0200
From: "Roger Gerl" <roger.gerl@bluewin.ch>
Subject: Re: Team3S: DSBC/Exhaust Question

DSBC is the Dual Solenoid Boost Controller from Blitz. It's bad the thing
carries the same name but it works. If you want install it.

Exhaust, sure, just go to ebay, buy two OBX Bomb B mufflers and let a shop
do the piping and hangers. Will work for sure. Dunno how it will sound,
where the resonance will be but why not.

Roger
93'3000GT TT
www.rtec.ch

> Has anybody tried a dual stage manual boost controller(DSBC) such as the
> Turbo XS?

> . Also, I'm trying to decide on what cat-back system to buy for my
> VR-4. I've kinda narrowed it down to the BORLA and ATR ones.

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Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 15:34:14 -0500
From: "xwing" <xwing@wi.rr.com>
Subject: Team3S: Re: Shockproof Light

Q:  Why would you want to use Shockproof Light, for less friction?  That is
the only advantage, due to lower viscosity.  I am of the opinion that the
major issue with the transfer case is breakage/longevity, NOT friction
reduction.  Thus, I go with the fluid that would seem to offer the best
protection:  Shockproof Heavy.  I don't see any significant downside to
using the heavier, better-protecting fluid in this situation.  I suspect
Light would also work fine, but since cost is same...
JT

From: "Dave and Rebecca Trent" <bdtrent@netzero.net>
> Has anyone run Redline Shockproof Light the their transfer case?  I
usually
> run Shockproof Heavy, but since all my driving is open track with no hard
> launching, I'm thinking Shockproof Light would be sufficient.
> Dave T/92TT

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Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 15:41:02 -0500
From: "xwing" <xwing@wi.rr.com>
Subject: Team3S: Re: cooling engine

My 94 with FMIC had temps into the red zone, though never actually boiled
over, while at Road America this last weekend at 15-20 psi boost.  It was
33-42 F (cold!) outside.  Ran with heater on full after that, which took it
down to 1-2 notches below red usually.  I plan to work on the air management
at the front of the car to assure it is routed through/not around the
radiator/IC, and probably a bigger/aluminum radiator too sometime.
I don't recall seeing it in the red zone with sidemount IC's but never
stared at the heat gauge before either ;)
JT

To: "'Floyd, Jim'" <Jim_Floyd@maxtor.com>
> http://www.ppeengineering.com/

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