Team3S: 3000GT & Stealth    Monday, March 11 2002    Volume 01 : Number 778




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Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 13:21:06 -0600
From: "cody" <overclck@satx.rr.com>
Subject: Team3S: Our ABS is bad??

Was reading through a SCC the other day regarding good and bad ABS.  I
think it was Rich on here that lost almost all of hi s braking due to a
broken rotor one time.  I don't remember the specifics of it, or if we
even discussed this, but it makes some sense.  Our ABS is a 2 channel
system...  If lockup is detected on the right front wheel, then the left
rear wheel is also affected.  From what I was reading, is that the early
model Sentras have this same type of ABS system.  This is how bad it
really is...  They are lighter cars of course, and on a real track, are
likely to lift their inside rear wheel at high cornering speeds...
Well, What started happening was when a driver was braking at the same
time, he would lose all braking to the most important brake wheel, the
outer front wheel.  This would happen cause the inside rear wheel would
be easy to lock up due to weight transfer, or just because it was in the
air entirely, while that was happening, the ABS system would see a
"locked up" wheel, and try to control it (of course at the same time, it
was also controlling the opposite wheel, which would be the outer front
wheel).  This would cause almost entire loss of braking because the
outer front wheel has the most pressure, thus the most traction to slow
the car.   

My question is, and I have thought a lot about this lately, but....  are
there any ways to make our ABS work better.  I know its not up to
standards, and any time I feel the ABS engage, the car feels like it's
never going to stop.  Magazine testers claim cars stop faster with ABS,
but they don't say exactly what ABS systems they are claiming this
about.  Who has theirs entirely disconnected? 

Also, on a side note:  The article also said that the new WRX's ABS
systems sucked cause they were so twitchy, that say slowing down on a
road with a little gravel on it, the wheels were ~never~ allowed to lock
up even for a split second, whereas good ABS systems will allow the
lockup, but compensate very quickly after initial lockup...

Any Suggestions....

- -Cody

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Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 13:25:23 -0600
From: "cody" <overclck@satx.rr.com>
Subject: Team3S: RE: gauges

Re-read.  Seems like you are saying "remove lights that DO NOT light
symbols from the rear" 

That would mean any lights Facing the gauges from the outside of the
gauge pod, which we don't have.... 

You are fine, complete what you are doing....

- -Cody

- -----Original Message-----
From: Octavio Perallon-Diaz [mailto:perallono001@hawaii.rr.com]
Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2002 1:20 PM
To: stealth@stls.verio.net
Subject: gauges

has any one installed the El-glo overlay faces, i have a q? on the
instruction it said that you can put this over the other with out
removing
the needle, but at the same time it say to remove any bulbs that dot not
light symbols from rear, it appears that this is contradicting it self,
any
info on this please let me know, thanks and aloha.

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Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 13:35:58 -0600
From: "Todd D.Shelton" <tds@brightok.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Speaking of Seats...

- -----Original Message-----
From: Wayne <whietala@prodigy.net>
To: Team3s@stealth-3000gt.st <Team3s@stealth-3000gt.st>
Date: Sunday, March 10, 2002 10:26 AM
Subject: RE: Team3S: Speaking of Seats...

>I'm using 5-point harnesses and removing light bulbs and buzzers....
>I was pleased to see that the corbeau bracket had a place to mount the
>center console side of the seat belt. It saves me some time rigging a mount
>on the car body. I'll use the same mounting location on the other side, and
>attach the 2 shoulder straps to the roll cage.
>
>Wayne
- ----------------------------------------------------------

That it good to hear!  I've not been looking forward
to drilling the holes for that inside location near the
console/ near the driveshaft etc.

I went with Corbeau on the entire setup since
unlike some other brands like Sparco, I knew their
brackets would fit our cars properly.  Now
I'm finding out they even elliminate the
need to drill the inside belt attachment
hole!  That means I won't have to drill
any holes at all for any of the belt
mounting points!  The massive, heavy
duty Road Race Enginneering
rear strut bar works great for a rear
mounting mount!

I have heard at least half a dozen horror
stories when using other brands because
the brackets don't really work with
our cars.  Sparco seems to be among
the worst [completely useless]
for fit and compatability on a 3S.

The archives contain several stories
about those that have tried using other
brands - they usually end up having to
use home made brackets or spending
a lot of time modifying the brackets
they purchased which don't really fit.

- - tds
http://www.brightok.net/~tds

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Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 13:38:35 -0600
From: "cody" <overclck@satx.rr.com>
Subject: Team3S: Speed Ratings vs. Tire Repair

Well, as some may know, I work for Discount Tire right now...  I am
currently in training on all their repair procedures/ replacement, and
stuff like that...  I am on on a fast track to store manager due to all
my previous experience, but I have to learn the basics first...

Anyways...  I thought you all might be interested in some tire repair
info, since I've seen it debated here a couple times recently...

The maximum legal size of hole a tire can be repaired is 1/4" in the
tread area, or a simple pinhole in the corner of the tread.  Anything on
the sidewall whatsoever is not repairable.  The speed rating given to a
tire still stands after one correct repair.  (plug + patch for tread
area, patch only for shoulder area).  After the one repair, the tire no
longer has a speed rating.  It is still a safe tire to drive on the
road, but the speed rating no longer applies.  It will more than likely
be OK up to any speed it was previously rated to, but as a technicality,
it's no longer a real rating.

Also, those who have problems balancing wheels/tires.  It can be done on
ANY wheel/tire, and there are many different ways to balance a wheel
also.  If anyone is having troubles with that, I can most likely help.
I've spent the last week playing around with all the different machines
and tools, and have learnt a lot about how they work, and the different
things to do...

- -Cody

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Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 14:55:24 -0600
From: Shane Thoms <shanethoms@yahoo.com>
Subject: Team3S: BOV Suggestions

Been gutting my intake as of late and decided to test my OEM BOV.
Leaks pretty good.  :-)  The question I have, is what have our list members
used successfully?

Open vs. closed system?

Manufacturers/models that people are happy with?

Thanks guys,
Shane

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Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 15:59:06 -0500
From: "Darren Schilberg" <dschilberg@pobox.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Speaking of Seats...

To uphold the Sparco name ... when I bought my seat I knew I would be
the only driver of the car on the track so I didn't need to get sliders
like most other seat installs have.

Therefore, I did not buy their bracket (and maybe good thing knowing
that it might not have fit anyway).  But the seat was shipped quickly,
matched description and dimensions, was a great price, had a few more
features than were listed on their product page, and is a perfect fit
for me.

- --Flash!
1995 VR-4 with Sparco Evo fiberglass race seat weighing 16# (bathroom
scale weight)

- -----Original Message-----
From: Todd D.Shelton
Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2002 14:36

That it good to hear!  I've not been looking forward
to drilling the holes for that inside location near the
console/ near the driveshaft etc.

I went with Corbeau on the entire setup since
unlike some other brands like Sparco, I knew their
brackets would fit our cars properly.  Now
I'm finding out they even elliminate the
need to drill the inside belt attachment
hole!  That means I won't have to drill
any holes at all for any of the belt
mounting points!  The massive, heavy
duty Road Race Enginneering
rear strut bar works great for a rear
mounting mount!

I have heard at least half a dozen horror
stories when using other brands because
the brackets don't really work with
our cars.  Sparco seems to be among
the worst [completely useless]
for fit and compatability on a 3S.

The archives contain several stories
about those that have tried using other
brands - they usually end up having to
use home made brackets or spending
a lot of time modifying the brackets
they purchased which don't really fit.

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Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 15:12:00 -0600
From: "Craig Hodges" <chodges@houston.rr.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: BOV Suggestions

I have a Greddy Type S, and I think a lot of guys use these. It works great
for me. You do need to cable tye it out of the way of the shifting linkage.
But otherwise it works great.

- -----Original Message-----
From: owner-team3s@team3s.com [mailto:owner-team3s@team3s.com]On Behalf
Of Shane Thoms
Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2002 2:55 PM
To: Team3s@stealth-3000gt.st
Subject: Team3S: BOV Suggestions

Been gutting my intake as of late and decided to test my OEM BOV.
Leaks pretty good.  :-)  The question I have, is what have our list members
used successfully?

Open vs. closed system?

Manufacturers/models that people are happy with?

Thanks guys,
Shane

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Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 16:17:41 -0500
From: "Darren Schilberg" <dschilberg@pobox.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Our ABS is bad??

Cody,

   I believe Jim Berry has his ABS completely disconnected.  I still
need ABS connected until I can learn the feel of the car to the road or
the different situations I find myself in.  My car is the daily driver
so I see gravel, water, leaves, cobblestone, etc. as road surfaces.  I
think Jim's is almost entirely a track car which will only see asphalt
with concrete patches that is always smooth until the occasional dirt
gets put on the track.
   A really good driver can stop faster without ABS because they are in
control of, as you noted, the initial lock-up and some cars never reach
lock-up.  I don't think the majority of us are that kind of driver.  And
if you DO get into an accident and the insurance or police find that
your ABS is completely disconnected ... well ... you can see who will
get blamed for not being able to keep their car under control.
   So the way to beat the ABS system is to not let the rear inside tire
to lift off the ground.  Do this by stiffer springs, better suspension,
better driving, etc.  I say keep the system the say it is since to
change it would mean changing the brain, sensor, wheel speed indicators,
G-sensors, etc.  I don't think it is worth the trouble.  Just get the
car stable so it won't lift the inside wheel.  That means me, with the
heavy track car, actually has an advantage now by not gutting out the
interior.  <laugh>  I knew there was a reason.
   I've never seen a 3/S get close to lifting a wheel on any corner in
AutoX or road course.  That would take one heck of an input speed and
one heck of a sharp corner.  I think the natural understeering keeps the
car from turning if it tries this move or will spin out from oversteer.
I doubt many of us have modded a car enough to corner that hard.  I may
be wrong, but I think it will be hard to lift an inside wheel on one of
our cars.  We need the 650+ hp guys to try this.  THEY might be able to
do it.

- --Flash!
1995 VR-4

- -----Original Message-----
From: cody
Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2002 14:21
 
Was reading through a SCC the other day regarding good and bad ABS.  I
think it was Rich on here that lost almost all of hi s braking due to a
broken rotor one time.  I don't remember the specifics of it, or if we
even discussed this, but it makes some sense.  Our ABS is a 2 channel
system...  If lockup is detected on the right front wheel, then the left
rear wheel is also affected.  From what I was reading, is that the early
model Sentras have this same type of ABS system.  This is how bad it
really is...  They are lighter cars of course, and on a real track, are
likely to lift their inside rear wheel at high cornering speeds...
Well, What started happening was when a driver was braking at the same
time, he would lose all braking to the most important brake wheel, the
outer front wheel.  This would happen cause the inside rear wheel would
be easy to lock up due to weight transfer, or just because it was in the
air entirely, while that was happening, the ABS system would see a
"locked up" wheel, and try to control it (of course at the same time, it
was also controlling the opposite wheel, which would be the outer front
wheel).  This would cause almost entire loss of braking because the
outer front wheel has the most pressure, thus the most traction to slow
the car.   

My question is, and I have thought a lot about this lately, but....  are
there any ways to make our ABS work better.  I know its not up to
standards, and any time I feel the ABS engage, the car feels like it's
never going to stop.  Magazine testers claim cars stop faster with ABS,
but they don't say exactly what ABS systems they are claiming this
about.  Who has theirs entirely disconnected? 

Also, on a side note:  The article also said that the new WRX's ABS
systems sucked cause they were so twitchy, that say slowing down on a
road with a little gravel on it, the wheels were ~never~ allowed to lock
up even for a split second, whereas good ABS systems will allow the
lockup, but compensate very quickly after initial lockup...

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Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 16:20:18 -0500
From: "Darren Schilberg" <dschilberg@pobox.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: BOV Suggestions

On what type of car is this, Craig?  I know the shift linkage from a
first gen (5 speed) to a second gen (6 speed) is slightly different.
The first gen has just one rod coming up for the shift linkage and the
second gen has two rods.

I've seen an HKS Super Sequential BOV on a first gen Stealth that I
don't think needed to be tied out of the way (Ken Stanton's car).  Maybe
I couldn't see if it was tied back or not.

- --Flash!
1995 VR-4

- -----Original Message-----
From: Craig Hodges
Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2002 16:12
 
I have a Greddy Type S, and I think a lot of guys use these. It works
great
for me. You do need to cable tye it out of the way of the shifting
linkage.
But otherwise it works great.

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Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 16:21:56 -0500
From: Joe Kenwabikise <jdk88888@www.speedtoys.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: another injector question...

Looking at my logs shows that *sometimes* at WOT, I'll run lean
(.86-.88) the entire run, other times I run fine (.92).  I did the
"freefuelpumpmod" a couple weeks ago, and that did lower the duty cycle
about 5-10% across the board.  I'm planning a more complete bypass this
spring, but this works fine for now. 
Phil, I'd love to test our your Supra pump, see if it helps. When are
you gonna be around here and have some time? 
As for the duty cycle at 100%, the RCengineering site makes a comment
about never running your IDC's above 80%, otherwise other problems will
arise (knock, running lean).  I've heard this many other places too.

Joe
91 RT/TT black

"Philip V. Glazatov" wrote:
>
> At 08:16 PM 3/9/2002, Jannusch, Matt wrote:
> > > A bigger pump will not make any difference
> > > if you keep the stock fuel pressure regulator.
> > > If you want to be original, get a fuel
> > > pressure regulator. It is much cheaper than the
> > > injectors.
> >
> >I'm confused.  How will a pump that flows more fuel not make any difference?
> >If his pump can't supply as much fuel as needed at the fuel pressure the
> >regulator is asking for then how is a different regulator going to help?
>
> Matt, if you know for sure that the stock pump could starve the injectors
> at 15 psi of boost, than the stock pump could be the problem. Joe has a '91
> and his pump is probably not that new anymore.
>
> However, if this is not the pump, but simply the injectors, or the MAF, or
> the ECU that does not know how much fuel to put in, then installing a
> bigger pump won't change anything. The stock fuel pressure regulator will
> make sure that all the extra gas will go back to the gas tank.
>
> Joe, you need to analyze your data logs. If the O2 voltage becomes low only
> at high RPM, then this is the pump. If you want, I could let you try my
> Supra pump. I am not planning on installing it for another week or two.
>
> You could also buy a fuel pressure gauge. Not that many people have those -
> you'll be pretty unconventional! ;-)
>
> I thought a fuel pressure regulator would be a good way to richen out the
> mixture without having to buy bigger injectors and an A/F controller.
>
> Still, the only way to reduce the duty cycles in the open-loop mode at WOT
> is to fool the ECU with an A/F controller.
>
> Philip

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Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 16:37:01 -0500
From: Anthony Melillo <anthonymelillo3@comcast.net>
Subject: Team3S: high power bulb kit on ebay

Has anyone seen or know anything about a kit like this ?  I am looking to replace the stock bulbs in my 1997 VR-4 for something a
little brighter.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1810619730

I was looking at PIAA bulbs, and this guy said that the bulbs in this kit are made by piaa's oem, biolights in Japan, and that the
wiring harness handle over 130 w to protect the car.

Does this sound about right or is he full of it?

Anthony Melillo

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Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 16:44:39 -0500
From: Anthony Melillo <anthonymelillo3@comcast.net>
Subject: Team3S: breather filter question

Has anyone seen one of these ?  I have a little filter like this, that I want to use like this to eliminate the oil build up in the
intake plenum.

But I am confused what hose this will take the place of ?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1811125367

Anthony Melillo

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Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 16:09:32 -0600
From: "Craig Hodges" <chodges@houston.rr.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: BOV Suggestions

I have a 1999 VR4.

- -----Original Message-----
From: owner-team3s@team3s.com [mailto:owner-team3s@team3s.com]On Behalf
Of Darren Schilberg
Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2002 3:20 PM
To: Team3s@stealth-3000gt.st
Subject: RE: Team3S: BOV Suggestions

On what type of car is this, Craig?  I know the shift linkage from a
first gen (5 speed) to a second gen (6 speed) is slightly different.
The first gen has just one rod coming up for the shift linkage and the
second gen has two rods.

I've seen an HKS Super Sequential BOV on a first gen Stealth that I
don't think needed to be tied out of the way (Ken Stanton's car).  Maybe
I couldn't see if it was tied back or not.

- --Flash!
1995 VR-4

- -----Original Message-----
From: Craig Hodges
Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2002 16:12
 
I have a Greddy Type S, and I think a lot of guys use these. It works
great
for me. You do need to cable tye it out of the way of the shifting
linkage.
But otherwise it works great.

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Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 14:17:18 -0800
From: "Chris Winkley" <cwinkley@plaza.ds.adp.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: BOV Suggestions

Shane...

I have the HKS Super BOV now, had a Blitz for a while after removing the OEM unit. The Blitz seemed to be more difficult to adjust and, frankly, I didn't like the sound of it. You could probably find lots of information in the archives about the BOV varieties and their installation, which is the "biggest" issue, as there's very little room in our engine compartment for extra hoses. I used half the space where the stock battery used to be when I replaced it with a dry cell. Now that I'm switching over to a trunk mounted battery, I have an extra four inches up front!!! Getting cold air into the engine compartment is still one of the most significant issues, so I'm toying with ways to do that without cutting sheet metal.

Looking forward...Chris

1995 Glacier Pearl White VR4 (w/custom K&N intake, bored and polished throttle body, TEC 15G turbos, RC 560cc injectors, HKS fuel pump, ARC2/MAF fuel controller, Split Second A/F meter, GReddy PRofec A boost controller, Apex EGT & boost gauges, GReddy turbo timer, HKS SBOV, custom intercoolers, Odyssey dry cell battery, Magnecore 8.5mm wires, NGK double platinum plugs gapped at .032", ACT 2800 lb pressure plate, Broward six puck racing disc, Centerforce throwout bearing, ATR downpipe and test pipe, GReddy catback exhaust, Stillen cross-drilled rotors, Porterfield R4 race pads, SS brake lines, Eibach 1" drop progressive springs, Michelin SX MXX3 Pilots on 18" chromed wheels)

- -----Original Message-----
From: Shane Thoms [mailto:shanethoms@yahoo.com]
Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2002 12:55 PM
To: Team3s@stealth-3000gt.st
Subject: Team3S: BOV Suggestions

Been gutting my intake as of late and decided to test my OEM BOV.
Leaks pretty good.  :-)  The question I have, is what have our list members
used successfully?

Open vs. closed system?

Manufacturers/models that people are happy with?

Thanks guys,
Shane

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Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 15:27:40 -0800
From: "fastmax" <fastmax@cox.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S: BOV Suggestions

I recently installed the Blitz BOV vented to the atmosphere --- easy hookup,
no problems with stalling or hesitation. All in all I'm happy with the results.

        Jim berry
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- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Shane Thoms" <shanethoms@yahoo.com>
To: <Team3s@stealth-3000gt.st>
Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2002 12:55 PM
Subject: Team3S: BOV Suggestions

> Been gutting my intake as of late and decided to test my OEM BOV.
> Leaks pretty good.  :-)  The question I have, is what have our list members
> used successfully?
>
> Open vs. closed system?
>
> Manufacturers/models that people are happy with?
>
> Thanks guys,
> Shane

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Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 15:31:00 -0800
From: "fastmax" <fastmax@cox.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S: BOV Suggestions

I've asked this question before --- what's to adjust on the Blitz BOV ?? I've adjusted
it from min to max and noticed no difference in operation. It seems to adjust tension
on the spring over a very limited range --- seems useless to me !!!

        Jim Berry
=========================================================
- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Winkley" <cwinkley@plaza.ds.adp.com>

> I have the HKS Super BOV now, had a Blitz for a while after removing the OEM unit. The Blitz seemed to be more difficult to adjust

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Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 15:53:58 -0800
From: "fastmax" <fastmax@cox.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Speaking of Seats...

Todd --- did you just buy the Roadrace engineering rear strut bar ???
I have one, but was told they don't make them anymore.

        Jim Berry
=============================================
Todd wrote ------------
>
> That it good to hear!  I've not been looking forward
> to drilling the holes for that inside location near the

snip

> That means I won't have to drill
> any holes at all for any of the belt
> mounting points!  The massive, heavy
> duty Road Race Enginneering
> rear strut bar works great for a rear
> mounting mount!

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Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 16:26:43 -0800
From: "Chris Winkley" <cwinkley@plaza.ds.adp.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: BOV Suggestions

Jim...

The adjustment screw controls the amount of backpressure required to vent (i.e., the point at which the BOV opens versus allowing the air to flow from the turbo into the throttle body). I suppose it is useless to some degree, that is, you can ask: how much difference does it make when the BOV vents?

Looking forward...Chris

- -----Original Message-----
From: fastmax [mailto:fastmax@cox.net]
Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2002 3:31 PM
To: Chris Winkley; Shane Thoms; Team3s@stealth-3000gt.st
Subject: Re: Team3S: BOV Suggestions

I've asked this question before --- what's to adjust on the Blitz BOV ?? I've adjusted
it from min to max and noticed no difference in operation. It seems to adjust tension
on the spring over a very limited range --- seems useless to me !!!

        Jim Berry
=========================================================
- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Winkley" <cwinkley@plaza.ds.adp.com>

> I have the HKS Super BOV now, had a Blitz for a while after removing the OEM unit. The Blitz seemed to be more difficult to adjust

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Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 16:43:55 -0800 (PST)
From: menalteed <menalteed@yahoo.com>
Subject: Team3S: 300-320 Hp 1993 to 1994

What was the change that they made to get the 20hp
difference. Would this be a natural and easy change to
make on the 92 TT. One other question, soon be
starting up my new 13G's, do I need to change the
spark plug gap for the up graded turbos.

Peter

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Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 20:14:46 -0600
From: Kar-Yeong Teoh <karyeong@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: 300-320 Hp 1993 to 1994

I believe it is the increased boost from 11 to 14psi. Correct me if I'm
wrong. :)

Kar-Yeong
95 RT/TT

menalteed wrote:
> What was the change that they made to get the 20hp
> difference. Would this be a natural and easy change to
> make on the 92 TT. One other question, soon be
> starting up my new 13G's, do I need to change the
> spark plug gap for the up graded turbos.
>
> Peter

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Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 18:23:45 -0800 (PST)
From: Geoff Mohler <gemohler@www.speedtoys.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Speaking of Seats...

Ahh..great!

For the hell of it..can ya ask em if they have slider hardware for a 93
celica?

On Sun, 10 Mar 2002, Wayne wrote:

> The bases fit in the car fine. They are shaped to fit the height
> differences explained by Darren. They even have built in mounting locations
> for the seat belt similar to the stock seats.
>
> The problem is mounting the bases to the sliders. I contacted Corbeau, and
> they said i'm missing some parts. I need to call them tomorrow, and
> hopefully they will send the missing parts for free.
>
> Wayne
>
>
> At 10:16 PM 3/9/02 -0800, Geoff Mohler wrote:
> >When I ordered the seats for our VR4 (which Wayne now has) they showed the
> >right brackets..and thats what he has.  The box sat unopened for a year.
> >
> >Thats all I know..
> >
> >On Sun, 10 Mar 2002, Darren Schilberg wrote:
> >
> > > To everyone installing or thinking of installing race seats ...
> > >
> > > I have not purchased or seen aftermarket brackets so I can't comment if
> > > they fit our cars or not.  I doubt they will.  The floor where the
> > > driver's and passenger's seat sits is not flat (I think the contour
> > > slopes up toward the centerline of the car and there is about a one inch
> > > ridge about halfway between the front of the seat mounting bolt holes
> > > and the rear ones).
> > >
> > > A friend made a custom mounting bracket for my Sparco Evo race seat that
> > > aligns to the stock driver's seat mounting location and has holes
> > > drilled in it for the Sparco brackets (L brackets) to attach to.  I
> > > imagine most Momo, Sparco, Corbeau, etc. seats have similar layouts.
> > > Contact me privately if you want these dimensions.  I don't have one for
> > > the passenger side but will gander that it is very close to the driver's
> > > side dimensions.  The bracket is more like a trapezoid.
> > >
> > > I think Mikael Akenson built a mounting bracket out of a solid piece of
> > > metal that was formed to the shape of the floor.  We used four pieces of
> > > 2" x 1/4" steel strip fastened with a TIG welder (friends with tools are
> > > fun sometimes).  After a few trial fits we had a winning situation.  The
> > > anti-sub belt for the harness is even welded to the center of the rear
> > > part of the bracket.  Great layout.
> > >
> > > Only use Grade 8 (English) or Grade 8.8 (Metric) hardware when attaching
> > > the seat brackets to any mounting bracket and then you can use the stock
> > > seat mounting bolts to attach the seat bracket to the floor.  This is
> > > when the Dremel comes in handy to custom-shape certain areas to fit
> > > nicely.
> > >
> > > I have some pics but now that the seat is not in the car I can take some
> > > better ones with dimensions.  Let me know how I can help.
> > >
> > > Stock second gen power driver's seat = 60# (bathroom scale)
> > > Stock second gen passenger's seat = 40# (bathroom scale)
> > >
> > > Remember that the driver's seat takes the stock seatbelt mounting point
> > > with it and has some harnesses plugged in the bottom.  Have a friend
> > > help or just get ready to wrestle with the seat while disconnecting the
> > > plugs.  Once you get in there you will see how it all fits.  DO NOT
> > > scrape up the threads on the front studs of the seats or you will need
> > > to cut them again (trust me -- I know).  The rear mounting points use a
> > > bolt instead of a nut so there is no chance of stripping threads in the
> > > back mounting points.
> > >
> > > Lots more info but needed to give some heads-up to a few major steps
> > > involved.  Don't forget that you lose your seatbelt unless you put in a
> > > new one, junkyard one, maybe a DSM one, or salvage the old one and put
> > > it on the seat or the center console/tunnel area.
> > >
> > > --Flash!
> > > 1995 VR-4, Sparco Evo race seat and Simpson 5-pt harness when track
> > > prepped
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Bradford J. Gay
> > > Sent: Saturday, March 09, 2002 18:48
> > >
> > > Okay, I'm looking at installing the Sparco Milanos.  Has anyone
> > > installed these or does anyone have a clue on which brackets and stuff I
> > > need along with what do I need for the four-point harnesses?  Thanks.

- ---
Geoff Mohler

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Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 18:23:57 -0800
From: "fastmax" <fastmax@cox.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S: 300-320 Hp 1993 to 1994

Close --- I think the numbers were about 8 or 9 to about 11 or 12.

        Jim Berry
====================================
- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Kar-Yeong Teoh" <karyeong@yahoo.com>

> I believe it is the increased boost from 11 to 14psi. Correct me if I'm
> wrong. :)
>
> Kar-Yeong
> 95 RT/TT
>
> menalteed wrote:
> > What was the change that they made to get the 20hp
> > difference. Would this be a natural and easy change to
> > make on the 92 TT. One other question, soon be
> > starting up my new 13G's, do I need to change the
> > spark plug gap for the up graded turbos.

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Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 18:30:43 -0800 (PST)
From: Geoff Mohler <gemohler@www.speedtoys.com>
Subject: Team3S: Re: high power bulb kit on ebay

Want brighter bulbs????

Upgrade the wiring..no..honest.  You can gain 10-15% voltage at the bulb
by simply upgrading the guage of wiring from the relays.

A -must- if you upgrade bulb wattages.

On Sun, 10 Mar 2002, Anthony Melillo wrote:

> Has anyone seen or know anything about a kit like this ?  I am looking to replace the stock bulbs in my 1997 VR-4 for something a
> little brighter.
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1810619730
>
> I was looking at PIAA bulbs, and this guy said that the bulbs in this kit are made by piaa's oem, biolights in Japan, and that the
> wiring harness handle over 130 w to protect the car.
>
> Does this sound about right or is he full of it?
>
> Anthony Melillo

- ---
Geoff Mohler

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Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 23:40:28 -0500
From: "Philip V. Glazatov" <gphilip@umich.edu>
Subject: Re: Team3S: another injector question...

At 04:21 PM 3/10/2002, Joe Kenwabikise wrote:
>Looking at my logs shows that *sometimes* at WOT, I'll run lean
>(.86-.88) the entire run, other times I run fine (.92).  I did the
>"freefuelpumpmod" a couple weeks ago, and that did lower the duty cycle
>about 5-10% across the board.  I'm planning a more complete bypass this
>spring, but this works fine for now.

Do you have the link to this mod?

Since the lean condition is at all RPM, it is unlikely that a better pump
would help. If that was the pump problem, the lean condition would be only
at high RPM and WOT when fuel demand is several times higher than at low
RPM WOT.

>Phil, I'd love to test our your Supra pump, see if it helps. When are
>you gonna be around here and have some time?

I can let you use it for a week. I will email you privately. I have a boost
controller now too - an Apexi AVCR. Trying to figure out the settings. I'll
need the pump once I figure out everything.

Philip

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Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 23:52:01 -0600
From: "Jannusch, Matt" <mjannusch@marketwatch.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: 300-320 Hp 1993 to 1994

> What was the change that they made to get the 20hp
> difference. Would this be a natural and easy change to
> make on the 92 TT. One other question, soon be
> starting up my new 13G's, do I need to change the
> spark plug gap for the up graded turbos.

Remove the restrictor ring from the input side of the boost control
solenoid.  You can find detailed instructions posted here by me in the List
Archives.  Just search for "boost restrictor ring" and you should find it.
It'll give you the difference in PSI up to the '94 and later spec the same
way the factory built it.

http://www.team3s.com/Search.htm

I actually just tried to find it, and had a difficult time locating it.

The solenoid on the firewall closest to the driver's side of the car should
be the boost control solenoid.  In one of the two nipples on it if you look
real close there's a plastic insert pushed into the end.  Pull it out with a
drill bit or something similar (use a bit slightly smaller than the hole in
the insert, fire up the drill and wiggle the bit slightly to grab the insert
and then slowly pull out).  Put the hose back on and you'll have a bit more
boost, same as the second generation cars.

The hoses on the boost control solenoid should connect to the "H" fitting
under the throttle body, and the other hose will go down to the intake hose
for the rear turbo.  The insert should be on the nipple that goes to the "H"
fitting.

How this works is it just lets the boost control system bleed off a little
more pressure which delays opening the wastegates by a couple psi.  If you
get excessive knock for some reason, the ECU will close the solenoid and
reduce you down to 6 psi to protect the motor.

- -Matt
'95 3000GT Spyder VR4

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Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 00:55:55 -0500
From: Joe Kenwabikise <jdk88888@www.speedtoys.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: another injector question...

Well, what would you guys suggest?  If the upgraded fuel pump doesn't do
anything, should I go for larger injectors?  Or a combination perhaps...
Well, in any case, I'm not getting any knock (highest I've seen is a
.1sec spike of 4), so I think I'll be ok for a while :)

thanks,
Joe
91 RT/TT black

"Philip V. Glazatov" wrote:
>
> At 04:21 PM 3/10/2002, Joe Kenwabikise wrote:
> >Looking at my logs shows that *sometimes* at WOT, I'll run lean
> >(.86-.88) the entire run, other times I run fine (.92).  I did the
> >"freefuelpumpmod" a couple weeks ago, and that did lower the duty cycle
> >about 5-10% across the board.  I'm planning a more complete bypass this
> >spring, but this works fine for now.
>
> Do you have the link to this mod?
>
> Since the lean condition is at all RPM, it is unlikely that a better pump
> would help. If that was the pump problem, the lean condition would be only
> at high RPM and WOT when fuel demand is several times higher than at low
> RPM WOT.
>
> >Phil, I'd love to test our your Supra pump, see if it helps. When are
> >you gonna be around here and have some time?
>
> I can let you use it for a week. I will email you privately. I have a boost
> controller now too - an Apexi AVCR. Trying to figure out the settings. I'll
> need the pump once I figure out everything.
>
> Philip

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Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 22:30:55 -0800
From: "Ken Middaugh" <kmiddaugh@ixpres.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Porsche Monoblocks?

The original Mov'it kits and Brad Bedell's kit use the calipers from the
993.  Mov'it has since moved to the monoblock 996 caliper.  You can read
about it at http://www.ultimategarage.com.

> Aren't the 993 or 996 calipers the Monoblock ones we are using on the big

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Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 12:57:04 +0100
From: Henri Le Hir <hlehir@lucent.com>
Subject: Team3S: 5mm spacers

On my 1st Gen Stealth RT/TT, I found that the handling was "understeering by
design".

So I had a serious look at the front suspension, made some tests with my
accelerometers (dry / wet / ice / snow), did some math, and found out that
I'd theoritically have to put 7mm spacers on the front (both sides).

Unfortunately, I could only find HR 5mm spacers for the Stealth / VR4, so
it's what I have.

Right now, the car is definitively more responsive (from the steering point
of view), and maybe just a little (as in very little ) bit still
understeering.

But it's definitively a lot more neutral than it used to be.

I'll keep it this way

Best

Henri

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Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 06:55:11 -0600
From: "Christopher Deutsch" <christopher0@attbi.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: BOV Suggestions

The piece that gets in the way is the shifter counter weight, which was
added to the second gens.
Christopher

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-team3s@team3s.com [mailto:owner-team3s@team3s.com]On Behalf
> Of Darren Schilberg
> Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2002 3:20 PM
> To: Team3s@stealth-3000gt.st
> Subject: RE: Team3S: BOV Suggestions
>
> On what type of car is this, Craig?  I know the shift linkage from a
> first gen (5 speed) to a second gen (6 speed) is slightly different.
> The first gen has just one rod coming up for the shift linkage and the
> second gen has two rods.
>
> I've seen an HKS Super Sequential BOV on a first gen Stealth that I
> don't think needed to be tied out of the way (Ken Stanton's car).  Maybe
> I couldn't see if it was tied back or not.
>
> --Flash!
> 1995 VR-4

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Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 08:22:51 -0600
From: "Jannusch, Matt" <mjannusch@marketwatch.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: another injector question...

> Well, what would you guys suggest?  If the upgraded fuel pump
> doesn't do anything, should I go for larger injectors?  Or a
> combination perhaps... Well, in any case, I'm not getting any
> knock (highest I've seen is a .1sec spike of 4), so I think
> I'll be ok for a while :)

Could also be that your O2 sensor(s) are getting old if you've got a lot of
miles on them.  As they age they become less responsive.  If you aren't
getting knock that's a good thing.  Could also try cleaning the injectors
too as preventative maintenance.

- -Matt
'95 3000GT Spyder VR4

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Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 09:14:23 -0700
From: "Floyd, Jim" <Jim_Floyd@maxtor.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: BOV Suggestions

What does that counter weight do ?

- -----Original Message-----
From: Christopher Deutsch [mailto:christopher0@attbi.com]
Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 5:55 AM
To: Team3s@stealth-3000gt.st
Subject: RE: Team3S: BOV Suggestions

The piece that gets in the way is the shifter counter weight, which was
added to the second gens.
Christopher

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-team3s@team3s.com [mailto:owner-team3s@team3s.com]On Behalf
> Of Darren Schilberg
> Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2002 3:20 PM
> To: Team3s@stealth-3000gt.st
> Subject: RE: Team3S: BOV Suggestions
>
>
> On what type of car is this, Craig?  I know the shift linkage from a
> first gen (5 speed) to a second gen (6 speed) is slightly different.
> The first gen has just one rod coming up for the shift linkage and the
> second gen has two rods.
>
> I've seen an HKS Super Sequential BOV on a first gen Stealth that I
> don't think needed to be tied out of the way (Ken Stanton's car).  Maybe
> I couldn't see if it was tied back or not.
>
> --Flash!
> 1995 VR-4

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Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 09:13:58 -0800 (PST)
From: menalteed <menalteed@yahoo.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: 300-320 Hp 1993 to 1994

>What was the change that they made to get the 20hp
difference. Would this be a natural and easy change to
make on the 92 TT. One other question, soon be
starting up my new 13G's, do I need to change the
spark plug gap for the up graded turbos.<

Remove the restrictor ring from the input side of the
boost control solenoid.

Thank you for that answer, that was what I was hoping
for, a simple fix to get more boost for my new 13G
turbos, I wonder if the car's with the 13G,s in Europe
have a different  boost control solenoid then what we
have here in the States. Also would like to get a few
more opinions on the spark plug gap settings for the
changes I'm made, removed the restrictor on the boost
control, upgraded to 13G Turbos and changed the air
filter to K&N.

Peter 92 TT 83K

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Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 09:29:16 -0800 (PST)
From: Casey Spivey <spiv99@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: turbos going bad?

I thought for sure it was the rear turbo as well. I used a little
mirror to check around the back turbo and I couldn't see any oil
around. It's possible that it is still coming out but being burn up
from the heat. There was no oil in the intercooler either. It was
recommended to change the PCV valve which I will do here in the next
couple days. Unless my manual boost controller is really off I don't
understand how I can get 15lbs with a cracked turbo. Plus the oil is
throwing me off.

I am not a mechanic by any means, but I have a 92 Stealth TT and had
a
similar thing happen to me recently.  I don't have manual boost but,
experienced the "air escaping" sound near the rear, by the firewall.
I
have never smelt oil, but experienced loss of oil over time.  As
well, I
noticed that often around 4,000 RPM the car seemed to hesitate and
run
rough

After taking it in for a check-up, it was revealed that my rear turbo
is
cracked.  Not what I wanted to hear, and I am sure not what you want
to
hear.  It explains the air escaping, the lack of boost and the oil
loss.  It is rare that I have the opportunity to drive the car the
way
it should be so I didn't notice this as a big problem for a few
weeks,
the car seemed fine, except when you wind it out.  Thus, when the
rear
turbo kicked in it blew air out of the turbo, as well as burnt oil
being
sent through the turbo.

I was just about to sell it, now I might have to keep it seeing I'm
going to soak a good buck into it.  I hope you have better luck with
yours.

Later,

Shannon

Casey Spivey wrote:

> I have a '91 VR-4 with 147K miles on it. All maintenance and work
has
> been done by me so I know it is current. I have a K&N, full
exhaust,
> and a manual boost controller set to 15lbs. In the past two weeks
it
> has started acting strange. It won't reach boost in 1st, 10lbs max
in
> second, and 15 in third. When the turbos are under boost I have
> started smelling oil.  There was a little trace of it last summer
> when I had the IC pipes out.  Also there is sometimes a loud sound,
> like air escaping from somewhere, but only under boost. It seems to
> be coming from close to the firewall, maybe the rear turbo. Any
> thoughts on what is wrong? I was thinking maybe the seals in the
> turbos are about shot.  Thanks, Casey

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Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 11:40:27 -0600
From: "Christopher Deutsch" <christopher0@attbi.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: BOV Suggestions

I believe it's supposed to make shifting smoother or easier or something
like that.  It's other function is to get in the way of aftermarket BOVs. ;)
You can shift gears by moving it around by hand (don't try it while the car
is running though!).

I tried to file mine down but that sucker is strong!  Others have even
suggested cutting it off.  In the end I settled on just zip tying the BOV
out of the way.

Here's a pic:
http://home.attbi.com/~christopher0/bov.html
(The counter weight is the metal thing in the top right with the white dot
on it.)

Christopher

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-team3s@team3s.com [mailto:owner-team3s@team3s.com]On Behalf
> Of Floyd, Jim
> Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 10:14 AM
> To: Team3s@stealth-3000gt.st
> Subject: RE: Team3S: BOV Suggestions
>
> What does that counter weight do ?

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Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 09:52:37 -0800
From: "Gross, Erik" <erik.gross@intel.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Front Strut Bar

> I have no idea why anyone would design a strut tower bar with
> anything less than the maximum support between the strut
> towers. Maybe for a lower selling price ?

How about adjustability?

BTW, in response to Flash's question, yes, the (round) Cusco rear strut
tower brace will allow storing the removable glass sunroof in the stock
location with the brace installed.

Note: some of the pictures are of my base model 3000GT (white), but there
are also some pictures of my VR-4 (black).
http://www.team3s.com/~egross/3000GT/RearStrutBar/RearStrutBar.html

- --Erik
'95 VR-4

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Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 12:48:11 -0500
From: Shannon <shannon@oxfordlearning.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: turbos going bad?

I was the exact same.  I didn't smell any oil burn or spot a single drop
of oil, that's when the mechanic told me it was likely all burning up.
As well, my factory turbo gauge, showed full turbo pressure, but the
mechanic said it wasn't reading accurately.

What's the deal with PCV valve change?  Just change it to a new factory
valve, what is this supposed to do?

Later,

Shannon

Casey Spivey wrote:

> I thought for sure it was the rear turbo as well. I used a little
> mirror to check around the back turbo and I couldn't see any oil
> around. It's possible that it is still coming out but being burn up
> from the heat. There was no oil in the intercooler either. It was
> recommended to change the PCV valve which I will do here in the next
> couple days. Unless my manual boost controller is really off I don't
> understand how I can get 15lbs with a cracked turbo. Plus the oil is
> throwing me off.
>
> I am not a mechanic by any means, but I have a 92 Stealth TT and had
> a
> similar thing happen to me recently.  I don't have manual boost but,
> experienced the "air escaping" sound near the rear, by the firewall.
> I
> have never smelt oil, but experienced loss of oil over time.  As
> well, I
> noticed that often around 4,000 RPM the car seemed to hesitate and
> run
> rough
>
> After taking it in for a check-up, it was revealed that my rear turbo
> is
> cracked.  Not what I wanted to hear, and I am sure not what you want
> to
> hear.  It explains the air escaping, the lack of boost and the oil
> loss.  It is rare that I have the opportunity to drive the car the
> way
> it should be so I didn't notice this as a big problem for a few
> weeks,
> the car seemed fine, except when you wind it out.  Thus, when the
> rear
> turbo kicked in it blew air out of the turbo, as well as burnt oil
> being
> sent through the turbo.
>
> I was just about to sell it, now I might have to keep it seeing I'm
> going to soak a good buck into it.  I hope you have better luck with
> yours.
>
> Later,
>
> Shannon
>
> Casey Spivey wrote:
>
> > I have a '91 VR-4 with 147K miles on it. All maintenance and work
> has
> > been done by me so I know it is current. I have a K&N, full
> exhaust,
> > and a manual boost controller set to 15lbs. In the past two weeks
> it
> > has started acting strange. It won't reach boost in 1st, 10lbs max
> in
> > second, and 15 in third. When the turbos are under boost I have
> > started smelling oil.  There was a little trace of it last summer
> > when I had the IC pipes out.  Also there is sometimes a loud sound,
> > like air escaping from somewhere, but only under boost. It seems to
> > be coming from close to the firewall, maybe the rear turbo. Any
> > thoughts on what is wrong? I was thinking maybe the seals in the
> > turbos are about shot.  Thanks, Casey

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Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 10:06:18 -0800 (PST)
From: menalteed <menalteed@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: turbos going bad?

>What's the deal with PCV valve change?  Just change
it to a new factory valve, what is this supposed to
do?<

>From the search pages, it did mention that the PCV
valve does clog up. When it clogs you get some oil
leak
from excess pressure at the oil fill cap. It is a oil
leak! Most times like on my TT, you start to see oil
on the top front heat shield. It is a simple fix to
clean or replace the PCV as a precaution. I also added
a new gasket to the oil cap. That is all I know. I'm
just starting to learn about these cars, not by choice
but because I can't find a trusted mechanic in my area
of Seattle.

Peter 92 TT Stealth

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Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 10:09:46 -0800
From: "Chris Winkley" <cwinkley@plaza.ds.adp.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: 300-320 Hp 1993 to 1994

Folks...

Are you guys sure about that (a boost control solenoid change adding 20hp)? I would swear there was a camshaft profile change in 1994 (along with 4 bolt main bearings, 6 speed, etc.).

Looking forward...Chris

- -----Original Message-----
From: menalteed [mailto:menalteed@yahoo.com]
Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 9:14 AM
To: menalteed
Cc: Team3S
Subject: RE: Team3S: 300-320 Hp 1993 to 1994

>What was the change that they made to get the 20hp
difference. Would this be a natural and easy change to
make on the 92 TT. One other question, soon be
starting up my new 13G's, do I need to change the
spark plug gap for the up graded turbos.<

Remove the restrictor ring from the input side of the
boost control solenoid.

Thank you for that answer, that was what I was hoping
for, a simple fix to get more boost for my new 13G
turbos, I wonder if the car's with the 13G,s in Europe
have a different  boost control solenoid then what we
have here in the States. Also would like to get a few
more opinions on the spark plug gap settings for the
changes I'm made, removed the restrictor on the boost
control, upgraded to 13G Turbos and changed the air
filter to K&N.

Peter 92 TT 83K

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Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 12:12:23 -0600
From: "Jannusch, Matt" <mjannusch@marketwatch.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: 300-320 Hp 1993 to 1994

> Are you guys sure about that (a boost control solenoid change
> adding 20hp)? I would swear there was a camshaft profile
> change in 1994 (along with 4 bolt main bearings, 6 speed, etc.).

Most of the HP came from more boost pressure.  I don't recall a cam profile
change, but increasing boost pressure from 9 psi to 12-13 could easily
result in the 20 HP being mentioned.

4-bolt & 6-speed won't change HP.

- -Matt
'95 3000GT Spyder VR4

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Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 13:17:25 -0500
From: "Furman, Russell" <RFurman2@MassMutual.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: 300-320 Hp 1993 to 1994

The camshaft change (I thought this occurred on the 95's) AFAIK was nothing
more that an increase in duration which simply moved the power slightly
higher in the rpms.  Correct me here if somebody knows more......

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chris Winkley [SMTP:cwinkley@plaza.ds.adp.com]
> Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 1:10 PM
> To: Team3S
> Subject: RE: Team3S: 300-320 Hp 1993 to 1994
>
> Folks...
>
> Are you guys sure about that (a boost control solenoid change adding
> 20hp)? I would swear there was a camshaft profile change in 1994 (along
> with 4 bolt main bearings, 6 speed, etc.).
>
> Looking forward...Chris
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: menalteed [mailto:menalteed@yahoo.com]
> Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 9:14 AM
> To: menalteed
> Cc: Team3S
> Subject: RE: Team3S: 300-320 Hp 1993 to 1994
>
> >What was the change that they made to get the 20hp
> difference. Would this be a natural and easy change to
> make on the 92 TT. One other question, soon be
> starting up my new 13G's, do I need to change the
> spark plug gap for the up graded turbos.<
>
> Remove the restrictor ring from the input side of the
> boost control solenoid.
>
> Thank you for that answer, that was what I was hoping
> for, a simple fix to get more boost for my new 13G
> turbos, I wonder if the car's with the 13G,s in Europe
> have a different  boost control solenoid then what we
> have here in the States. Also would like to get a few
> more opinions on the spark plug gap settings for the
> changes I'm made, removed the restrictor on the boost
> control, upgraded to 13G Turbos and changed the air
> filter to K&N.
>
> Peter 92 TT 83K

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Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 10:17:37 -0800
From: "Geddes, Brian J" <brian.j.geddes@intel.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Suspension "creaks" on braking...

Okay, so I've got a few more details about my mysterious noise problem.
First, a couple of basic details I should have included in the first place:
I have stock ECS shocks/struts (70k miles), with H&R sport springs.  The
springs have been on the car since I bought it over a year ago, but the
creaking is a recent development.

After a little playing around in a parking lot, I found a method to reliably
reproduce the noise.  From a dead stop, I drive in reverse to about 10 mph,
and then brake.  This produces the creak.  I then go to 1st gear, drive to
about 10 mph, and brake.  Once again the mysterious creak is heard.  The
creak will only happen on the first braking in forward or reverse.  So, once
I get the creak when braking from forward motion, I won't hear it again no
matter how many times or how hard I stop, until I brake from a reverse
motion.  When I brake forward again after I'll hear it again, and so on.

Rich - I tried cleaning out the spring landings in front, but the noise
didn't go away.  They were really dirty - full of rocks and twigs and bird's
nests and things.  I did it when it was somewhat dark, so maybe I'll try it
again when I've got a little more light to work in. 

- -----Original Message-----
From: merritt@cedar-rapids.net [mailto:merritt@cedar-rapids.net]
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 3:47 PM
To: Geddes, Brian J; Team3S Mailing List (E-mail); Starnet Mailing List
(E-mail)
Subject: Re: Team3S: Suspension "creaks" on braking...

Might be the front spring landing. Dirt gets up in there. It's worse with
modded cars, because we don't have the rubber boot around the spring any
more. Just take the weight off the car to drop the springs down enough to
clean the landings.

Rich

At 03:34 PM 3/7/02 -0800, Geddes, Brian J wrote:
>All -
>
>My VR-4's suspension is, for lack of a better word, "creaking" when I
brake.

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Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 10:29:34 -0800
From: "fastmax" <fastmax@cox.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S: 300-320 Hp 1993 to 1994

Caps shows a cam change about mid 92, probably about the time of the four
bolt change. The part number stayed the same after that.

        Jim Berry
======================================================

- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Winkley" <cwinkley@plaza.ds.adp.com>

> Folks...
>
> Are you guys sure about that (a boost control solenoid change adding 20hp)? I would swear there was a camshaft profile change in
1994 (along with 4 bolt main bearings, 6 speed, etc.).
>
> Looking forward...Chris

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Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 11:27:32 -0700
From: "Zach Sauerman" <axemaddock@hotmail.com>
Subject: Team3S: testpipe.com

Good morning all.
Quick question about the pieces offered by Testpipe.com. They offer a 2.5"
and 2.25" pipe. Before I climb around underneath my girl and try to measure
the pipe diameter, I figured I would ask if anybody knows what it is on a 94
TT.
If it is 2.25", I don't want to buy the 2.5" and risk the flow slowing down
and cooling when it suddenly has more room. If it is 2.5", I don't wanna buy
the 2.25" for the sudden restriction and turbulence.
Also, if anybody has comments and feedback from buying from them and the
effects on the car as a result of installation, I would appreciate that as
well.
Thank you very much.

Excited about a $45 upgrade,
Zach Sauerman
94 Pearl Yellow TT

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Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 12:59:46 -0600
From: "Jannusch, Matt" <mjannusch@marketwatch.com>
Subject: Team3S: Possible product

Anyone interested in an LCD display that would do the following:

During cruise (based on throttle position) display two bargraphs of O2
voltage (one for each bank of cylinders), display RPM and display boost
pressure/vacuum.

During TPS > 60% display exact O2 voltage for both O2 sensors accurate to
.001 volt, plus RPM, plus boost pressure.

The display would be small enough that it would fit easily on top of the
steering wheel shroud.  It could also maybe have warning LED's on it that
would light up at something like less than a certain voltage of O2 above a
certain boost pressure or something like that.

I'm building one for myself, just wondering if anyone else would be
interested.  I don't have the costs worked out yet, but it should be under
$200.

There might be a possibility of datalogging those parameters as well, but
I'd be working on the more basic version first.  It could also be built with
a vacuum-florescent display at higher cost also.  It might be a two-piece
unit where the display would just be cabled to the master unit with a piece
of RJ-11 phone cable so you could position it anywhere and it would take up
very little space.

Interest?  Comments?

- -Matt
'95 3000GT Spyder VR4

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Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 11:00:17 -0800 (PST)
From: Jeff Lucius <stealthman92@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: 300-320 Hp 1993 to 1994

Complete head and timing train info is available on my web page
below.

http://www.geocities.com/lutransys/jlucius7/j7-2-headinfo.htm

The cams changed for the *1993* model year (and all later models) to
have slightly *less* lift; not that it matters.  

As others have mentioned, I doubt the cam, bearing, or gearing
changes affected the engine power rating increase for *1994* and
later models. It was likely the boost increase caused by removal of
the restricter in the lower nipple of the BC solenoid.

See my year-old email below for factory specs.
So, is 1.3 psi boost good for 20 bhp?

Jeff Lucius, http://www.stealth316.com/

- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeff Lucius" <stealthman92@yahoo.com>
To: "Team 3s" <Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2001 8:15 AM
Subject: RE: Team3S: What is stock boost for a 95 VR-4?

I am always amazed at all the different numbers I hear for "stock
boost levels" for the different years. ALL wastgeates on stock
TD04-9B turbos are designed to open at approx. 6.8 psi pressure. The
BC solenoid acts as a bleeder to raise the effective boost level. The
service manuals state the following service specs for "supercharging
pressure" (look in your Manual on CD from Vinny in the Intake and
Exhaust section).

1st gen cars: 1991 3000GT manual p. 15-2.          8.7 psi
2nd gen cars: 1992-1996 3000GT manual p. 15-2.    10   psi

Knowing Mitsu manuals, the pressure is probably stated at other
levels/numbers in other manuals and that is where the confusion comes
from. :)

Jeff Lucius, www.stealth316.com

- ----- Original Message -----
From: "fastmax" <fastmax@cox.net>
To: "Chris Winkley" <cwinkley@plaza.ds.adp.com>; "Team3S"
<Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 11:29 AM
Subject: Re: Team3S: 300-320 Hp 1993 to 1994


Caps shows a cam change about mid 92, probably about the time of the
four bolt change. The part number stayed the same after that.

        Jim Berry
======================================================

- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Winkley" <cwinkley@plaza.ds.adp.com>

> Folks...
>
> Are you guys sure about that (a boost control solenoid change
adding 20hp)? I would swear there was a camshaft profile change in
1994 (along with 4 bolt main bearings, 6 speed, etc.).
>
> Looking forward...Chris

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Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 14:10:02 -0500
From: "Darren Schilberg" <dschilberg@pobox.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Front Strut Bar

Erik - Can you re-install the rubber tops to the rear shock towers with
the Cusco rear strut tower bar in place?  I believe Chris' allows this.

I don't know about the RoadRace one but Jim B. said they are not selling
them now?  Is that right?  Jim, can you replace the rubber tops to the
shock towers?

I sent a not to Jim F. about the pivot hinge in the bars and that they
most likely make either one front strut tower bar or one front shock
tower circle thing and modify the other piece.  This allows them to make
hundred of thousands of shock tower tops and only change the angle,
length, thickness, etc. of the bar going across.  Much cheaper in
manufacturing but also cheaper in design and function I believe.

Remember that many of the big name shops are in this for the money and
profit.  Few companies actually make the product for what it was
intended for or if they do then we can't afford it for our cars.

- --Flash!

- -----Original Message-----
From: Gross, Erik [mailto:erik.gross@intel.com]
Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 12:53
 
> I have no idea why anyone would design a strut tower bar with
> anything less than the maximum support between the strut
> towers. Maybe for a lower selling price ?

How about adjustability?

BTW, in response to Flash's question, yes, the (round) Cusco rear strut
tower brace will allow storing the removable glass sunroof in the stock
location with the brace installed.

Note: some of the pictures are of my base model 3000GT (white), but
there
are also some pictures of my VR-4 (black).
http://www.team3s.com/~egross/3000GT/RearStrutBar/RearStrutBar.html

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