Team3S: 3000GT & Stealth    Friday, August 3 2001    Volume 01 : Number 566
 
 
 

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Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 08:51:47 +0200
From: "Jim Matthews" <jim@the-matthews.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Hood Scoop for TT
 
I have an old web page that expresses similar ideas
(http://www.team3s.com/~matthews/intake.html).  Here are a few things to
consider:
 
What will keep water from soaking the air filter and possibly entering the
intake?  How is this handled on cars with stock scoops, such as the WS-6 and
the 550?
 
Connecting the air box to the scoop would keep hot air in the engine
compartment from entering the intake, potentially allowing more boost before
detonation.  But there may be other problems to consider.  I posted
something about ram air scoops a few years ago but I can't find it in the
archives and lent the book I quoted to a friend.  The point was that unless
it's properly designed, a scoop can actually BLOCK air due to high pressure
building up at the opening that actually limits ingestion.
 
If you don't connect the air box to the scoop, then the additional air may
raise the under-hood pressure.  Will this adversely affect
radiator/intercooler flow?
 
- - --
Jim Matthews - Munich, Germany
mailto:jim@the-matthews.com (64 Kbps ISDN)
http://www.the-matthews.com
 
*** 3000GT-Stealth International (3Si) Member #0030 ***
      http://www.the-matthews.com/stealth.html
Jet Black '94 Dodge Stealth R/T Twin-Turbo AWD AWS 6-spd
Adjustable Active Suspension, Adjustable Exhaust System
K&N FIPK, A'PEXi Super AVC-R v.1 (1.0 bar @ 64% BADC)
A'PEXi Turbo Timer (30 sec), Blitz Super Blow-Off Valve
Magnecore spark plug wires, Optima Red Top 830 Battery
Redline synth fluids (trans= MT-90, xfer & diff= SPHvy)
Cryoed rotors, R4S pads, braided lines, red calipers
Michelin Pilot XGT-Z4 245/45ZR17, Top Speed: 171 mph
G-Tech Pro: 0-60 4.79 sec, 1/4 13.16 sec @ 113.9 mph
1 Feb 99 Dyno Session: 367 SAE HP, 354 lb-ft torque
 
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Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 08:51:48 +0200
From: "Jim Matthews" <jim@the-matthews.com>
Subject: Team3S: tech support for A'PEXi?  (was: AVC-R at altitude)
 
Does anyone have a technical support contact (preferably Email address) for
A'PEXi?  Their [new] web site lists only a phone number (PST is nine time
zones earlier than CET), and it's not clear what it's for.
 
I'm still struggling with my AVC-R's altitude problem, described below.  Jim
Berry offered a logical suggestion, but a visual inspection of the pressure
sensor revealed nothing suspect and there appears to be no adjustability.
 
I spent this past weekend driving through the Austrian Alps with friends
(two '94 Corvettes, a new Boxter and a '68 Alfa Romeo) and the AVC-R limited
me to .5 bar at elevations over about 2000-2500 meters.  I was still able to
hang with the other cars, but I wasn't able to pull away from them like I
could on the lower passes.  Frustrating!  :-)
 
TIA for any info you can provide.
 
- - --
Jim Matthews - Munich, Germany
mailto:jim@the-matthews.com (64 Kbps ISDN)
http://www.the-matthews.com
 
*** 3000GT-Stealth International (3Si) Member #0030 ***
      http://www.the-matthews.com/stealth.html
Jet Black '94 Dodge Stealth R/T Twin-Turbo AWD AWS 6-spd
Adjustable Active Suspension, Adjustable Exhaust System
K&N FIPK, A'PEXi Super AVC-R v.1 (1.0 bar @ 64% BADC)
A'PEXi Turbo Timer (30 sec), Blitz Super Blow-Off Valve
Magnecore spark plug wires, Optima Red Top 830 Battery
Redline synth fluids (trans= MT-90, xfer & diff= SPHvy)
Cryoed rotors, R4S pads, braided lines, red calipers
Michelin Pilot XGT-Z4 245/45ZR17, Top Speed: 171 mph
G-Tech Pro: 0-60 4.79 sec, 1/4 13.16 sec @ 113.9 mph
1 Feb 99 Dyno Session: 367 SAE HP, 354 lb-ft torque
 

- -----Original Message-----
From: owner-team3s@stealth-3000gt.st
[mailto:owner-team3s@stealth-3000gt.st]On Behalf Of Jim Berry
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2001 9:20 PM
To: Jim Matthews; Team3S
Subject: Re: Team3S: AVC-R at altitude
 

The only thing I can think of is that the pressure transmitter is sealed to
the point
that it can't compensate for altitude ---- the sealed side always thinks
it's sea level.
I would think that they have a very small pinhole to bleed off excess
pressure over
a period of several minutes. It might even cause that hysteresis action that
your
seeing in the boost.
 
        Jim Berry
=================================================
- ----- Original Message -----
From: Jim Matthews <jim@the-matthews.com>
>
> I have a '94 TT with basic engine mods (see signature below).  The 1st
gen.
> SAVC-R reaches my boost setting quickly and holds it rock-steady every
time,
> EXCEPT at high altitude!  As I ascend, the boost begins "sticking" at 7
psi
> (as if the boost controller was turned off) before abruptly rocketing up
to
> my setting.  The delay increases the higher I go, and eventually boost
never
> budges from 7 psi.  The behavior reverses as I come back down the other
> side... it will again achieve the max boost setting after a delay at 7
psi,
> and finally returns to normal near the bottom, sweeping smoothly through
the
> boost range.

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Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 06:14:23 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jeff Lucius <stealthman92@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Datalogging on a 2nd gen 3S
 
With all this talk of stand-alone engine management I wonder what
happens with all the sub-systems? Don't the ABS, ETACS, SRS, and the
control units interact with the ECM? I'm not sure if they do or not.
 
I think Mikael Kenson is using a stand-alone system.
Mikael, are there any problems with the sub-systems?
 
Thanks.
 
Jeff Lucius, www.stealth316.com
 
- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Cooper" <scooper@paradise.net.nz>
To: <Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2001 10:34 PM
Subject: Re: Team3S: Datalogging on a 2nd gen 3S
 
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Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 06:42:01 -0700 (PDT)
From: John Christian <jczoom_619@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Front strut tower bar - special offer - no group buy necessary
 
Hi Ken,
 
Great suggestion.  A circular design with no holes
would be ideal.  And a little more material shouldn't
change a $250 price tag.
 
Be of good cheer,
John
 
- --- Ken Middaugh <kmiddaugh@ixpres.com> wrote:
> I had a few emails with Chris and wanted to pass
> along some info on his bar.
> He is a very nice guy.  He said he can offer the bar
> with no pre-drilled
> holes so you folks with the Ground Control kit can
> drill your own and make
> the bar fit.  Unfortunately, I wasn't able to
> convince him to offer a bar
> with  complete circular mounting points.  Perhaps
> you more articulate folks
> can convince him that this would be worthwhile.
>
> It is really great to have folks willing to
> contribute so greatly to our
> lists.
>
> -Ken
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Floyd, Jim" <Jim_Floyd@maxtor.com>
> To: "'Team 3SI'" <Team3s@stealth-3000gt.st>
> Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2001 3:18 PM
> Subject: Team3S: Front strut tower bar - special
> offer - no group buy
> necessary
>
>
> >
> >  3/S owners,
> >
> >         We have an opportunity to get a front
> strut tower bar for
> > our cars, 3000GT, SL or VR4 - 1st or 2nd
> generation. One of our car
> owners,
> > Chris Thorne in PA, is going to make a limited
> number of these
> immediately.
> >
> > Because enough of us sent in deposit checks Chris
> was able
> > to get a good buy on raw material and the price
> has been reduced.
> >
> > A group buy is not necessary now. Prices are
> reduced by more than 25%.
> > First come, first serve, until this first material
> buy runs out ! !
> > Those who have signed up and sent their checks are
> first in line.
> > Those who have signed up, but have not sent their
> checks are next
> > assuming Chris receives your checks before 6Aug01.
> >
> > The rest of you will want to hurry and take
> advantage of this one time
> > opportunity.
> > Man, I sound like a used car salesman.
> >
>
- ----------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > The configurations are listed below:
> >
> > - Black Chrome finish (mirror finish powder coated
> paint) with a
> > battery hold down(also black chrome finish)is now
> $260.00.
> >
> > Paint colors other than the black chrome finish
> that will be available at
> no
> > extra charge.
> >  * Azure Blue
> >  * Dark Blue
> >  * Crimson Red
> >  * Black
> >  * Wet White
> >  * Buttercup
> > Colors that are not stock are available for an
> extra $50.00.
> > If at least 5 people sign up for the same special
> color then there is no
> > extra charge.
> >
> > - The strut tower bar painted with the black
> chrome finish or stock paint
> > without
> > the battery hold down is $250.00.
> > - The strut tower bar only in raw aluminum,
> without paint or a hold down
> is
> > still $250.00
> >
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Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 07:12:39 -0700
From: "Jim Berry" <fastmax@home.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Front strut tower bar - special offer - no group buy necessary
 
I don't think there is any way to pre-drill the bars --- when you install the GC
camber plates you select your own positioning, there is no template, so the
plate can be in relatively random locations with respect to the factory mounting
holes.
 
I have pictures of my setup if anyone cares.
 
        Jim Berry
====================================================
- ----- Original Message -----
From: Ken Middaugh <kmiddaugh@ixpres.com>
To: Floyd, Jim <Jim_Floyd@maxtor.com>; 'Team 3SI' <Team3s@stealth-3000gt.st>
Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2001 6:48 PM
Subject: Re: Team3S: Front strut tower bar - special offer - no group buy necessary
 

> I had a few emails with Chris and wanted to pass along some info on his bar.
> He is a very nice guy.  He said he can offer the bar with no pre-drilled
> holes so you folks with the Ground Control kit can drill your own and make
> the bar fit.  Unfortunately, I wasn't able to convince him to offer a bar
> with  complete circular mounting points.  Perhaps you more articulate folks
> can convince him that this would be worthwhile.
>
> It is really great to have folks willing to contribute so greatly to our
> lists.
>
> -Ken
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Floyd, Jim" <Jim_Floyd@maxtor.com>
> To: "'Team 3SI'" <Team3s@stealth-3000gt.st>
> Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2001 3:18 PM
> Subject: Team3S: Front strut tower bar - special offer - no group buy
> necessary
>
>
> >
> >  3/S owners,
> >
> >         We have an opportunity to get a front strut tower bar for
> > our cars, 3000GT, SL or VR4 - 1st or 2nd generation. One of our car
> owners,
> > Chris Thorne in PA, is going to make a limited number of these
> immediately.
> >
> > Because enough of us sent in deposit checks Chris was able
> > to get a good buy on raw material and the price has been reduced.
> >
> > A group buy is not necessary now. Prices are reduced by more than 25%.
> > First come, first serve, until this first material buy runs out ! !
> > Those who have signed up and sent their checks are first in line.
> > Those who have signed up, but have not sent their checks are next
> > assuming Chris receives your checks before 6Aug01.
> >
> > The rest of you will want to hurry and take advantage of this one time
> > opportunity.
> > Man, I sound like a used car salesman.
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > The configurations are listed below:
> >
> > - Black Chrome finish (mirror finish powder coated paint) with a
> > battery hold down(also black chrome finish)is now $260.00.
> >
> > Paint colors other than the black chrome finish that will be available at
> no
> > extra charge.
> >  * Azure Blue
> >  * Dark Blue
> >  * Crimson Red
> >  * Black
> >  * Wet White
> >  * Buttercup
> > Colors that are not stock are available for an extra $50.00.
> > If at least 5 people sign up for the same special color then there is no
> > extra charge.
> >
> > - The strut tower bar painted with the black chrome finish or stock paint
> > without
> > the battery hold down is $250.00.
> > - The strut tower bar only in raw aluminum, without paint or a hold down
> is
> > still $250.00
> >
> > -----------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > This bar is CNC machined from 6061-T6 Aluminum and uses a solid
> > brace
> > of .625 inches x 1.5 inches that connects to the two mounts.
> > A picture of the prototype bar can be seen at:
> >
> >
> http://pws.ihpc.net/erikgross/3000GT/FrontStrutTowerBar/FrontStrutTowerBar.h
> > tml
> >         THE ADDRESS ABOVE MUST ALL BE ON ONE LINE.
> > If it isn't, then  copy it to your browser as one line.
> >
> >         The prototype you see in the pictures will be strengthened
> > at the bend angles with "bridges" to eliminate any possibility of flexing.
> > Chris can be contacted at NETM1NDER@aol.com if you have technical
> questions.
> >         I am doing the administration of this buy because Chris
> > works 60 hours a week and I want to help him get this off the ground so I
> > can have a strut bar.
> >
> >
> >         A battery hold down is required because the stock battery
> > and stock battery hold down can not be used due to clearance.
> >         A battery like the Optima or one with dimensions of  H =
> > 6.75  x  W = 6.813  x  L =  9.75"  or smaller can be used ( H, W & L = +
> or
> > - .25") can be used.
> >         Another option is to relocate your battery to the back so no
> > hold down is required
> >
> >         If you choose to participate in this buy please E-mail me, Jim
> Floyd
> > at
> > jim_floyd@maxtor.com.
> >         Give me your name, a phone number, a shipping address and
> > which configuration/color you want. Standard color is the black chrome
> > paint.
> >
> >         The buy will go down like this.
> >         We each will send $150.00 deposit to Chris Thorne.
> > This will separate the Men from the boys.
> >
> > He will then submit the first checks and begin manufacturing
> > once they have cleared through their banks.
> > Manufacturing will take 4 - 6 weeks.
> >         The deposit checks will go to:
> >                         Chris Thorne
> >                         Apt. 212
> >                         1404 East Schuylkill Road
> >                         Pottstown, PA  19465
> >
> >
> >     If you need to contact me by phone I am at 303-702-4421 during the
> day.
> >
> >     Jim Floyd

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Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 15:57:28 +0200
From: Roger Gerl <roger.gerl@bluewin.ch>
Subject: Re: Team3S: HKS VPC vs. ARC2
 
>I looking  to get either one to effectively tune my 550cc injectors. I'd
>appreciate any info from anyone owning either the VPC or ARC2.
 
Check the archives as there have been loooong discussions and debattes
about those systems.
 
Roger
93'3000GT TT
www.rtec.ch
 

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Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 13:39:54 -0400
From: Ken Stanton <tt007ken@yahoo.com>
Subject: Team3S: Anyone with a BAD SYNCHRO, please try this...
 
Hello all -
 
I'm still trying to diagnose whether or not my tranny has a bad synchro,
because sometimes it shifts smooth, other times not (grind).  I tried
something the other day that I and my mechanic think is telltale, but I
was hoping someone else might try it too.  Here it is:
 
With the clutch pedal UP (clutch engaged), try pushing the shifter
towards any gears not suspect of any problems.  In my car, I try pushing
toward 1st and 2nd, and the engine bogs just a touch.
 
Now, with the pedal still UP, try pushing toward the suspect gear.  In
my car, when I push toward 3rd, there is little to no resistance and I
immediately get a sharp grind from the gear.
 
The problem I have is going 4-3 in my car, 2-3 is not usually bad unless
coming out of 2nd at redline.  Thanks so much for any help!!
 
Ken Stanton
'91 Pearl White R/T TT
5-6 Speed Conversion

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Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 10:50:20 -0700
From: Bob Forrest <bforrest@pacbell.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S: tech support for A'PEXi?  (was: AVC-R at altitude)
 
> Does anyone have a technical support contact (preferably Email
address) for A'PEXi?  Their [new] web site lists only a phone number
(PST is nine time zones earlier than CET), and it's not clear what
it's for.
- ---------------------->
 
I called A'PEXi and asked if they would put up an email address for
Tech Support on the website, and they agreed...  'He' didn't give a
time frame, but his name is Rodgers.
 
> I'm still struggling with my AVC-R's altitude problem, described
below.  Jim Berry offered a logical suggestion, but a visual
inspection of the pressure sensor revealed nothing suspect and there
appears to be no adjustability.
> I spent this past weekend driving through the Austrian Alps with
friends (two '94 Corvettes, a new Boxter and a '68 Alfa Romeo) and the
AVC-R limited me to .5 bar at elevations over about 2000-2500 meters.
I was still able to hang with the other cars, but I wasn't able to
pull away from them like I could on the lower passes.  Frustrating!
:-)
- ---------------------->
 
The answer I got from him is that if you have the OLD AVC-R, you're
SOL, since it is NOT adjustable.  You have to adjust for whatever
altitude you're at!?!  That sounds like fun when going up and down
mountain roads.  The new AVC-R has automatic altitude compensation,
but spending an additional $630 (US) is pretty steep.  Sorry I don't
have better news for you...
 
Best,
 
Forrest
 
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Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 13:06:43 -0500
From: "Willis, Charles E." <cewillis@TexasChildrensHospital.org>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Anyone with a BAD SYNCHRO, please try this...
 
I'm curious as to what a normal (like brand new) transmission would do under
these circumstances (clutchless shifting) and how anyone would decide their
transmission is "virginal" short of having just installed it in the car!
ANd I'm not sure if I just installed a new transmission if I would tempt
fate by clutchless shifting. All the VR4's I've driven have squirrely
shifting in one regard or another, at one time or another.  I'm not slamming
the idea, I'm just curious - I didn't realize how easily a clutch could
operate on one of these cars until I just replaced mine.  To me, "normal"
operation was having a Nautilus machine for exercising my left leg!
 
In my simple mind, I have always checked standard transmision operation with
the engine running and the clutch pedal all the way to the floor.  I was
thinking that bad synchros would interfere at least slightly with shifting
from gear to gear with the clutch pedal DOWN.  Am I being stupid once again?
 
Chuck
 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ken Stanton [SMTP:tt007ken@yahoo.com]
> Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 12:40 PM
> To: Team3S Stealth
> Subject: Team3S: Anyone with a BAD SYNCHRO, please try this...
>
> Hello all -
>
> I'm still trying to diagnose whether or not my tranny has a bad synchro,
> because sometimes it shifts smooth, other times not (grind).  I tried
> something the other day that I and my mechanic think is telltale, but I
> was hoping someone else might try it too.  Here it is:
>
> With the clutch pedal UP (clutch engaged), try pushing the shifter
> towards any gears not suspect of any problems.  In my car, I try pushing
> toward 1st and 2nd, and the engine bogs just a touch.
>
> Now, with the pedal still UP, try pushing toward the suspect gear.  In
> my car, when I push toward 3rd, there is little to no resistance and I
> immediately get a sharp grind from the gear.
>
> The problem I have is going 4-3 in my car, 2-3 is not usually bad unless
> coming out of 2nd at redline.  Thanks so much for any help!!
>
> Ken Stanton
> '91 Pearl White R/T TT
> 5-6 Speed Conversion
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Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 13:57:01 -0400
From: "Jeff VanOrsdal" <jeffv@1nce.com>
Subject: Team3S: Ball joint replacement possibility

Does anyone know if the 1G DSM ball joints are the same as ours?  If they
are, I have finally found us replacements.  I do know that the shaft
diameter is the same, but I don't know about the base sizes.  If anyone has
a concrete answer on this, it would be greatly appreciated.
 
Jeff VanOrsdal
1991 Stealth ESX Twin Turbo
jeffv@1nce.com
 

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Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 12:10:41 -0700
From: Robert Koch <eK2mfg@foxinternet.com>
Subject: Team3S: Wanted: CD changer
 
Wanted:
Does anyone have a CDX-M30 CD changer they want to part with for 200.00
shipped to WA?
I am sick and tired of not getting high bid on E-bay and having to wait 4
days to get bumped off by some sniper. If you got one and want to upgrade
to something better here 200.00 to get you started.
It must work perfectly with no big dents or scratches and have a cartridge.
Any info would help.
(It is my intention to get a changer to use with my current system not
replace)
 
Bob K.
93 R/T n/t

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Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 11:59:46 -0700
From: "Jim Berry" <fastmax@home.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: tech support for A'PEXi?  (was: AVC-R at altitude)
 
Bob
 
Did they happen to define what defines a new vs. old AVC-R --- serial
number or model type for example.
 
        Jim Berry
 
- ----- Original Message -----
From: Bob Forrest <bforrest@pacbell.net>
 
> > Does anyone have a technical support contact (preferably Email
> address) for A'PEXi?  Their [new] web site lists only a phone number
> (PST is nine time zones earlier than CET), and it's not clear what
> it's for.
> ---------------------->
>
> I called A'PEXi and asked if they would put up an email address for
> Tech Support on the website, and they agreed...  'He' didn't give a
> time frame, but his name is Rodgers.
>
> The answer I got from him is that if you have the OLD AVC-R, you're
> SOL, since it is NOT adjustable.  You have to adjust for whatever
> altitude you're at!?!  >
> Forrest
 
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Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 12:28:48 -0700
From: Bob Forrest <bforrest@pacbell.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S: tech support for A'PEXi?  (was: AVC-R at altitude)
 
Hey, Jim,
 
No, sorry, it wasn't made clear...  I was just calling to save JimM
the international hassles - I don't have one, so I didn't exactly know
what to ask about.  I assumed you guys knew when models were changed -
sorry I didn't go further.  They're in your neighborhood - give a
call: 714-685-5700 ext6.
 
Best,
 
Forrest

> Bob
> Did they happen to define what defines a new vs. old AVC-R ---
serial number or model type for example.
>         Jim Berry
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Bob Forrest <bforrest@pacbell.net>
- ----------snip----------
> > The answer I got from him is that if you have the OLD AVC-R,
you're SOL, since it is NOT adjustable.  You have to adjust for
whatever altitude you're at!?!  >
> > Forrest
 
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Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 12:16:01 -0700
From: "Jim Berry" <fastmax@home.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Anyone with a BAD SYNCHRO, please try this...
 
Aggressive high rpm shifting [ drive it like ya stole it ] will show up a
bad syncro. The closer to red line the better.You need to speed shift
to show the problem, it doesn't have to be at WOT but the shift itself
should be very rapid. It should also occur in both directions although
you're less likely to down shift as aggressively  as upshifting.
 
The method the mechanic mentioned should be a good indication also.
Allowing a little pause in netural between second and third while driving
should also help eliminate any grinding unless the synchro is totally gone.
 
        Jim Berry
====================================================
- ----- Original Message -----
From: Ken Stanton <tt007ken@yahoo.com>
>
> With the clutch pedal UP (clutch engaged), try pushing the shifter
> towards any gears not suspect of any problems.  In my car, I try pushing
> toward 1st and 2nd, and the engine bogs just a touch.
>
> Now, with the pedal still UP, try pushing toward the suspect gear.  In
> my car, when I push toward 3rd, there is little to no resistance and I
> immediately get a sharp grind from the gear.
>
> The problem I have is going 4-3 in my car, 2-3 is not usually bad unless
> coming out of 2nd at redline.  Thanks so much for any help!!
 
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Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 14:46:36 -0500
From: Merritt <merritt@cedar-rapids.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Anyone with a BAD SYNCHRO, please try this...
 
At 12:16 PM 8/2/01 -0700, Jim Berry wrote:
>Aggressive high rpm shifting [ drive it like ya stole it ] will show up a
>bad syncro. The closer to red line the better.You need to speed shift
>to show the problem, it doesn't have to be at WOT but the shift itself
>should be very rapid. It should also occur in both directions although
>you're less likely to down shift as aggressively  as upshifting.
>
When my 2nd gear synchro went bad, I demonstrated it to the zone rep from
the warranty company like this:
 
Get up to about 10 mph in 1st, then shift rapidly into 2nd. Speed up to 20
mph, shift up to 3rd., then shift rapidly back into 2nd. We did the whole
thing in the parking lot of the Mitsu dealer.
Both the 1-2 and 3-2 shifts ground with a quick shift (not a full power
speed shift, mind, just quicker than normal) and foot to the floor on the
clutch (fully disengaged). In fact, with the car rolling along at 15 mph
and the clutch all the way down, I could grind away merrily with 1-2 and
3-2 shifts.
 
I also demonstrated that no other shifts made in the same manner resulted
in a clunk or grind. No problem -- it was covered under warranty.
 
If you demo your bad syncro to the zone rep driving like you described,
then he may say "We don't cover racing damage."
 
Rich
 
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Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 22:23:59 +0200
From: "Jim Matthews" <jim@the-matthews.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: tech support for A'PEXi?  (was: AVC-R at altitude)
 
Bob Forrest <bforrest@pacbell.net> wrote:
>
> I called A'PEXi and asked if they would put up an email address for
> Tech Support on the website, and they agreed...  'He' didn't give a
> time frame, but his name is Rodgers.
 
I managed to get an Email to them, which is reproduced below.

> The answer I got from him is that if you have the OLD AVC-R, you're
> SOL, since it is NOT adjustable.  You have to adjust for whatever
> altitude you're at!?!  That sounds like fun when going up and down
> mountain roads.  The new AVC-R has automatic altitude compensation,
> but spending an additional $630 (US) is pretty steep.  Sorry I don't
> have better news for you...
 
I wonder how I'm supposed to make these adjustments!  See below.

Jim Berry <fastmax@home.com> wrote:
>
> Did they happen to define what defines a new vs. old AVC-R ---
> serial number or model type for example.
 
Not in my conversation, nor did they recommend the new unit as a possible
alternative (can't justify that anyway).

Here's the Email I sent them:
 
- -----Original Message-----
From: Jim Matthews [mailto:jim@the-matthews.com]
Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 7:54 PM
To: (A'PEXi Tech Support)
Subject: boost control at high altitude
 

 Thank you very much for your time on the phone today; I realize this sort
of problem can be difficult to diagnose long distance.  I appreciate you
letting me contact you via Email, which is a big help considering the cost
of trans-Atlantic phone calls; your addresses will remain completely
confidential.  If you can think of anything I should try, I'd sure welcome
your suggestions.
 
To recap the problem and our discussion:
 
I have a '94 Stealth with only basic engine upgrades (see signature below).
The SAVC-R (first version) reaches my boost setting quickly and holds it
rock-steady every time, EXCEPT at high altitude!  As I ascend to roughly
2000-2500 meters in elevation, the boost begins "sticking" at .5 bar (as if
the controller were turned off), before abruptly rocketing up to my setting.
The delay increases the higher I go, and eventually boost never exceeds .5
bar.  The behavior reverses as I come back down; it will again achieve the
max boost setting after a delay at .5 bar, and finally returns to normal as
I descend to under 2000-2500 meters, once again sweeping smoothly through
the boost range.
 
Switching between settings A and B, changing the boost limit, adjusting the
BADC, turning the unit off and back on, and letting the car sit for 2-3
hours makes no difference - in all cases, boost behaves exactly as it would
with the controller off.  Note that both the AVC-R boost gauge and the stock
boost "estimate" gauge register about the same pressure (roughly .5 bar and
7 psi, respectively).  I've checked all of the connections and there is
nothing suspect.
 
I've posted to the Team3S technical forum (http://www.team3s.com), and while
a few folks reported similar problems, no one could offer a concrete
solution.  A Supra owner switched to the AVC-D and hasn't suffered the
problem since.  Folks that drive Stealths and 3000GTs with identical engine
modifications report no such problem (DSBC and both versions of the AVC-R).
Few have an opportunity to drive at such elevations regularly, which limits
the test cases, unfortunately.
 
Suggestions I've received:
 
1. "The pressure transmitter may be sealed to the point that it can't
compensate for altitude; the sealed side may think it's always at sea level.
I would think that they have a very small pinhole to bleed off excess
pressure over a period of several minutes.  It might even cause that
hysteresis action that your seeing in the boost."
 
This seemed logical but I could find no such vent.
 
2. "Disconnect the boost controller at altitude.  Allow maximum boost and
drive with the boost gauge only to see if the problem is really the
controller or some other oddball problem."
 
Did not think to try this, but I will next time I head up into the Alps.  I
would be very surprised if boost remains limited to .5 bar!
 
3. (from you) Make sure the pressure sensor orientation is correct (nipple
up).
 
I just looked and the pressure sensor (marked DENSO DPS-310-2000A
949940-6270 5 V) is mounted on the firewall with the hose nipple pointed
DOWN.  So I guess that's wrong?  Could this be the problem?  Why would this
matter?
 
4. (from you) Could be that the engine is overworked at high altitude and
the AVC-R can't overcome the excess load.
 
Seems unlikely since other cars with the same mods experience no problems at
altitude.  Also note that I've had my car on an AWD dyno back-to-back with a
much more highly modified 3000GT (gutted and free-flow cats, Borla exhaust,
etc. - see my web page) and at 1.0 bar boost there appear to be no major
restrictions with the stock setup.
 
5. (from you) Find someone with an AVC-R and try swapping in their pressure
sensor.
 
Unfortunately, these cars are extremely uncommon over here.
 
6. Stop driving in the Alps.
 
No, I don't think so!  ;-)

So, that's where things stand.  Again, if you can think of anything else I
could try, please let me know!  Thanks again for your time and help, and
I'll let you know if I make progress on my end.
 
- - --
Jim Matthews - Munich, Germany
mailto:jim@the-matthews.com (64 Kbps ISDN)
http://www.the-matthews.com
 
*** 3000GT-Stealth International (3Si) Member #0030 ***
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Jet Black '94 Dodge Stealth R/T Twin-Turbo AWD AWS 6-spd
Adjustable Active Suspension, Adjustable Exhaust System
K&N FIPK, A'PEXi Super AVC-R v.1 (1.0 bar @ 64% BADC)
A'PEXi Turbo Timer (30 sec), Blitz Super Blow-Off Valve
Magnecore spark plug wires, Optima Red Top 830 Battery
Redline synth fluids (trans= MT-90, xfer & diff= SPHvy)
Cryoed rotors, R4S pads, braided lines, red calipers
Michelin Pilot XGT-Z4 245/45ZR17, Top Speed: 171 mph
G-Tech Pro: 0-60 4.79 sec, 1/4 13.16 sec @ 113.9 mph
1 Feb 99 Dyno Session: 367 SAE HP, 354 lb-ft torque

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Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 17:54:12 -0000
From: "Sam Shelat" <sshelat@erols.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Datalogging on a 2nd gen 3S
 
Supposedly, the prototype is already out and it will be for sale this month.
 
Sam
- -----Original Message-----
From: cody <overclck@starband.net>
To: team3s@stealth-3000gt.st <team3s@stealth-3000gt.st>
Date: Wednesday, August 01, 2001 10:19 PM
Subject: RE: Team3S: Datalogging on a 2nd gen 3S
 

>Sounds like a good plan so long as its not on the same time schedule as
>the "viper" - carbon fiber hood...  That's exactly what a lot of people
>here are wanting/needing...  Lets just see if it makes it to
>production...
>
>-Cody
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-team3s@team3s.com [mailto:owner-team3s@team3s.com] On Behalf
>Of Sam Shelat
>Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2001 12:22 PM
>To: stealth@starnet.net; stealth@stls.verio.net;
>Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st
>Subject: Re: Team3S: Datalogging on a 2nd gen 3S
>
>
>I have heard GT-Pro in Cali is making a Link prog engine management plug
>in
>ECU replacement that does datalogging, air/fuel, ignition, nitrous,
>boost
>control and more.  It supposedly allows operation with or without MAF
>(speed
>density) and has a baseline program in it so its plug and play.  Price
>is
>about $2300, and its available within the month.  Supposedly, there is a
>version for every gen ECU, and its laptop programmable.
>I got most of this info from Brian of GTpro on the 3si.org site.  Oh,
>and he
>said you can run a coil for each cylinder and its sequential fire.
>Sounds
>promising.  Maybe one of the members with a little more tuning knowledge
>(hmm Roger) might want to inquire upon the merits or limitations of the
>system.  Sounds reasonable priced for something that eliminates the need
>for
>at least three black boxes and a VPC/Arc2 and datalogger and even an MSD
>if
>you just bought it for increased spark voltage.  Even a Gforce upgrade
>is
>almost $1000 and needed if you want to bypass the stock rev limiter.
>
>Sam

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Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 19:10:04 -0400
From: Ken Stanton <tt007ken@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Anyone with a BAD SYNCHRO, please try this...
 
Oh poop, I wasn't specific enough..
 
I mean, when the car is parked, not moving...
 
THANK YOU ALL for the replies!!
Ken
 
"Willis, Charles E." wrote:
 
> I'm curious as to what a normal (like brand new) transmission would do under
> these circumstances (clutchless shifting) and how anyone would decide their
> transmission is "virginal" short of having just installed it in the car!
> ANd I'm not sure if I just installed a new transmission if I would tempt
> fate by clutchless shifting. All the VR4's I've driven have squirrely
> shifting in one regard or another, at one time or another.  I'm not slamming
> the idea, I'm just curious - I didn't realize how easily a clutch could
> operate on one of these cars until I just replaced mine.  To me, "normal"
> operation was having a Nautilus machine for exercising my left leg!
>
> In my simple mind, I have always checked standard transmision operation with
> the engine running and the clutch pedal all the way to the floor.  I was
> thinking that bad synchros would interfere at least slightly with shifting
> from gear to gear with the clutch pedal DOWN.  Am I being stupid once again?
>
> Chuck

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Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 19:30:14 -0500
From: "Richard Fennell" <realmstl@home.com>
Subject: Fw: Team3S: Wanted: CD changer
 
Isn't the changer the same as a Kenwood unit?
 
I had one in my 'Vette that I traded in on my GT and the magazine was
exactly the same.  The units looked exactly the same except for the color.
I don't know what model I had as it was in the car when I purchased it.
 
I hope this is a help.
 
Rich
- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Koch" <eK2mfg@foxinternet.com>
To: "Team3S (E-mail)" <Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 2:10 PM
Subject: Team3S: Wanted: CD changer

> Wanted:
> Does anyone have a CDX-M30 CD changer they want to part with for 200.00
> shipped to WA?
> I am sick and tired of not getting high bid on E-bay and having to wait 4
> days to get bumped off by some sniper. If you got one and want to upgrade
> to something better here 200.00 to get you started.
> It must work perfectly with no big dents or scratches and have a
cartridge.
> Any info would help.
> (It is my intention to get a changer to use with my current system not
> replace)
>
> Bob K.
> 93 R/T n/t

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Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 20:53:20 -0500
From: Shane Thoms <shanethoms@yahoo.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Hood Scoop for TT
 
I would like to inject an idea here also.  Why not have a double ended scoop?
The front would grab air into the FIPK or airbox and the rear could allow
underhood
air drawn out?
 
I think it would look sweet and be incredibly functional.
 
Shane

>I have an old web page that expresses similar ideas
>(http://www.team3s.com/~matthews/intake.html).  Here are a few things to
>consider:
>
>What will keep water from soaking the air filter and possibly entering the
>intake?  How is this handled on cars with stock scoops, such as the WS-6 and
>the 550?
>
>Connecting the air box to the scoop would keep hot air in the engine
>compartment from entering the intake, potentially allowing more boost before
>detonation.  But there may be other problems to consider.  I posted
>something about ram air scoops a few years ago but I can't find it in the
>archives and lent the book I quoted to a friend.  The point was that unless
>it's properly designed, a scoop can actually BLOCK air due to high pressure
>building up at the opening that actually limits ingestion.
>
>If you don't connect the air box to the scoop, then the additional air may
>raise the under-hood pressure.  Will this adversely affect
>radiator/intercooler flow?
>
>- --
>Jim Matthews - Munich, Germany

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Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 23:16:25 -0500
From: "Alex Pedenko" <apedenko@mediaone.net>
Subject: Team3S: changing 6th
 
Hi,
 
    I'm getting my transmission replaced under the extended warranty from
mitsu, and I was wondering if there is any way to change the gear ratio to
allow for a higher top speed. My thinking is that since they're gonna be in
there, it might be cheaper to do that now than later on. I have no idea what
that would entail, and would appreciate any input on this.
 
    Alex Pedenko
 
Green '95 VR4

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Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 21:17:52 -0700
From: "Jim Berry" <fastmax@home.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: changing 6th
 
not a chance ---- they won't/can't open the trany, they just put in another
new/rebuilt transmission. There are no aftermarket gear sets for the Mitsu
trans and if there were the dealer wouldn't touch it.
 
A taller gear wouldn't do you much good anyway unless you boost the HP
a bunch. I'm not sure about the 6 speed but the 5 speed reaches it's maximum
speed in 4th gear, 5th just doesn't have enough HP to reach redline. If you
had the power you could reach over 200 mph in 5th [ 5 speed ], if you had the
tires, if you had the suspension, if you had the roll bars etc. etc.  The top
end is about 160 as is so I'm not sure where you would use more speed.
 
I race my car at open track events and 140 or so is the max speed I can
reasonably reach, on a highway I could do more but you sure as hell
wouldn't want to do it on a regular basis ---- if you do want to do it on a
regular basis let me know where you live and I'll stay out of the area.
 
        Jim Berry
====================================================
 
- ----- Original Message -----
From: Alex Pedenko <apedenko@mediaone.net>
To: <team3s@stealth-3000gt.st>
Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 9:16 PM
Subject: Team3S: changing 6th

> Hi,
>
>     I'm getting my transmission replaced under the extended warranty from
> mitsu, and I was wondering if there is any way to change the gear ratio to
> allow for a higher top speed. My thinking is that since they're gonna be in
> there, it might be cheaper to do that now than later on. I have no idea what
> that would entail, and would appreciate any input on this.
>
>     Alex Pedenko

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Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 22:03:51 -0700
From: "Barry E. King" <beking@home.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Anyone with a BAD SYNCHRO, please try this...
 
The resistance when approaching a healthy gear in this manner is the synchro
doing its thing -- trying to bring the mating gears to the same speed.  Note
that repeating this type of thing for a long while can prematurely wear a
synchro.  A worn synchro isn't as effective at meshing the gears, hence the
little or no resitance and the gear clash (the grind) when you do this with
the suspect gear.
 
You will experience the same thing if you shift without using the clutch
whilst moving, and experienc ethe resistance more or less depending upon how
closely matched the gears are in the transmission when you shift.
 
Shifting techniques that match ground speed and engine speed to the target
gear speed ("double clutching" on a non-constant mesh transmission) is very
easy on synchros because they end up having to do very little work.

Barry
 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-team3s@team3s.com [mailto:owner-team3s@team3s.com]On Behalf
> Of Ken Stanton
> Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 4:10 PM
> Cc: Team3S Stealth
> Subject: Re: Team3S: Anyone with a BAD SYNCHRO, please try this...
>
>
> Oh poop, I wasn't specific enough..
>
> I mean, when the car is parked, not moving...
>
> THANK YOU ALL for the replies!!
> Ken
 
<snipped>
 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Ken Stanton [SMTP:tt007ken@yahoo.com]
> > > Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 12:40 PM
> > > To:   Team3S Stealth
> > > Subject:      Team3S: Anyone with a BAD SYNCHRO, please try this...
> > >
> > > Hello all -
> > >
> > > I'm still trying to diagnose whether or not my tranny has a
> bad synchro,
> > > because sometimes it shifts smooth, other times not (grind).  I tried
> > > something the other day that I and my mechanic think is
> telltale, but I
> > > was hoping someone else might try it too.  Here it is:
> > >
> > > With the clutch pedal UP (clutch engaged), try pushing the shifter
> > > towards any gears not suspect of any problems.  In my car, I
> try pushing
> > > toward 1st and 2nd, and the engine bogs just a touch.
> > >
> > > Now, with the pedal still UP, try pushing toward the suspect gear.  In
> > > my car, when I push toward 3rd, there is little to no resistance and I
> > > immediately get a sharp grind from the gear.
> > >
> > > The problem I have is going 4-3 in my car, 2-3 is not usually
> bad unless
> > > coming out of 2nd at redline.  Thanks so much for any help!!
> > >
> > > Ken Stanton
> > > '91 Pearl White R/T TT
> > > 5-6 Speed Conversion
 

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Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 12:45:04 +0200
From: "Jim Matthews" <jim@the-matthews.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: changing 6th
 
 I've tried top speed runs on the Autobahn four or five times, and it was
between 168 and 171 mph (indicated) every attempt.  Top speed in my '94 is
reached at the point where RPMs in 5th are beyond my torque plateau and
where 6th offers insufficient mechanical advantage.  Had I the horsepower to
keep pulling in 6th, top speed would be well over 200 mph.  I assume that by
changing the ratio of 6th you would want to shorten it to be more like 5th,
which could conceivably give you a tad more speed by putting the RPMs in the
sweet spot.  But watch those EGTs when laying into the boost for extensive
periods!
 
- - --
Jim Matthews - Munich, Germany
mailto:jim@the-matthews.com (64 Kbps ISDN)
http://www.the-matthews.com
 
*** 3000GT-Stealth International (3Si) Member #0030 ***
      http://www.the-matthews.com/stealth.html
Jet Black '94 Dodge Stealth R/T Twin-Turbo AWD AWS 6-spd
Adjustable Active Suspension, Adjustable Exhaust System
K&N FIPK, A'PEXi Super AVC-R v.1 (1.0 bar @ 64% BADC)
A'PEXi Turbo Timer (30 sec), Blitz Super Blow-Off Valve
Magnecore spark plug wires, Optima Red Top 830 Battery
Redline synth fluids (trans= MT-90, xfer & diff= SPHvy)
Cryoed rotors, R4S pads, braided lines, red calipers
Michelin Pilot XGT-Z4 245/45ZR17, Top Speed: 171 mph
G-Tech Pro: 0-60 4.79 sec, 1/4 13.16 sec @ 113.9 mph
1 Feb 99 Dyno Session: 367 SAE HP, 354 lb-ft torque
 

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