team3s
Wednesday, April 11
2001 Volume 01
: Number
461
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Date:
Tue, 10 Apr 2001 14:28:44 -0500
From: "Jannusch, Matt" <
mjannusch@marketwatch.com>
Subject:
RE: [Re: Team3S: Erratic O2 readings]
> Thanks for the info. The
palmlogger does report ISC and fuel
> trim values, and you can disable
the injectors individually.
> Of course I picked this weekend to start my
ARC2 install so
> the car isn't running at all right now. Hopefully
I
> won't compound the issue by introducing other problems.
I'd
recommend trying to fix your idle problem before adding the ARC2 so that
if
you have problems with the ARC installed you can rule out the
previous
problems. It is always easier to fix things on a less modified
car. :-)
- -Matt
'95 3000GT Spyder VR4
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Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 15:43:27
-0400
From: "Schilberg, Darren" <
DSchilberg@freemarkets.com>
Subject:
RE: Team3S: Big Red Kit
The kit is priced around $1,500, includes
shipping I believe, brackets to
install them, bolts, washers, etc.
Everything except your time and labor
(and rotors, brake fluid, wrenches,
etc.).
Prices change if you don't get Pagid Orange pads from Brad,
SS lines (if you
have them already), etc. This is a bargain for the
performance and peace of
mind you gain from it.
That price
barely gives Brad any profit so be sure to negotiate with him
about the price
if he changes it for some reason. It is by far the best
deal for
performance for our car. I think Merritt has been using them
for
sometime on his first gen car and for them to last several years and
the
thrashing Rich throws the car through then they certainly are built to
last.
Not many things on our cars get people to look and say, "Wow. You
got Big
Reds. You're serious." I just grin and know that I STILL
can't out-brake a
gutted Probe GT with Wilwood brakes. I let them think
I will win. Slowly I
will get better.
- --Flash!
1995
VR-4 with Big Reds, yadda, yadda, yadda
- -----Original
Message-----
From:
TurboDrvn@aol.com
[mailto:TurboDrvn@aol.com]
Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2001 3:21 PM
To:
DSchilberg@freemarkets.com;
gemohler@speedracer.speedtoys.com;
simon@3kgto.freeserve.co.ukCc:
team3s@stealth-3000gt.stSubject:
Re: Team3S: Big Red Kit
Anyone have any idea on what the total cost
would be for a 1992 3000GT VR4??
Total cost for all parts for the Big Red
Brake Kit??
Thanks in advance,
Ahmed "AL-Crazy".
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Date: 10 Apr 2001 13:56:06
MDT
From: Mark Creekmore <
mcreekmore@usa.net>
Subject: Re: [RE:
[Re: Team3S: Erratic O2 readings]]
I meant to say last weekend not this
weekend. You're right, one problem at a
time would make much more sense. We
get a little bit of sunshine and the brain
just keeps saying "get the car
done... get the car done...". :)
Mark
"Jannusch, Matt" <
mjannusch@marketwatch.com>
wrote:
> Thanks for the info. The palmlogger does report ISC and fuel
> trim values, and you can disable the injectors individually.
> Of
course I picked this weekend to start my ARC2 install so
> the car isn't
running at all right now. Hopefully I
> won't compound the issue by
introducing other problems.
I'd recommend trying to fix your idle problem
before adding the ARC2 so that
if you have problems with the ARC installed
you can rule out the previous
problems. It is always easier to fix
things on a less modified car. :-)
- -Matt
'95 3000GT Spyder
VR4
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Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 14:52:27
-0500
From: Merritt <
merritt@cedar-rapids.net>
Subject:
RE: Team3S: Big Red Kit
>I think Merritt has been using them
for
>sometime on his first gen car
2nd gen. Mine's a
94.
and for them to last several years and the
>thrashing Rich
throws the car through then they certainly are built to last.
I don't
think anybody hits them any harder than I do. As hard, I'm sure,
but not
harder. It's a good thing that Brad supplies great big brackets
made out of
some super strong metal (such as Roger Penske's legendary
unobtanium) and
Grade 8 aircraft mounting bolts, because otherwise Ida
snapped them mothers
off long ago.
>Not many things on our cars get people to look and
say, "Wow. You got Big
>Reds. You're serious." I just
grin and know that I STILL can't out-brake a
>gutted Probe GT with Wilwood
brakes.
Don't be too sure. One instructor, who drove a prepared
944S Porsche, said
I had better brakes than he did. When it's got a set of
new, fat, nicely
warmed up (hot!) Hawk Blue pads, it stops like you threw out
an anchor. I
mean, it stops NOW!
Rich/94 VR4/Big Reds/Hawk Blues/BFG
SS lines/air ducts/water injection
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Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 15:14:21
-0500
From: "Willis, Charles E." <
cewillis@TexasChildrensHospital.org>
Subject:
RE: Team3S: FYI: Curb Weight Data for '95 3000GT
I initially
thought weighing one at a time would be valid, too, and got
flamed for
it! I think it depends on the scales and set up. Some scales
are
at a different elevation than the surrounding ground, so the car
is
tilted. I also thought the amount of suspension travel of the wheel
pushing
against the scales would be minimal, but perhaps not.
I am
real interested in your results!
P.S. The Skippy PCV Catch Can = ?
one of those gizmos to keep drippings off
the track?
>
-----Original Message-----
> From: Gross, Erik
[SMTP:erik.gross@intel.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2001 1:46
PM
> To: 'Willis, Charles E.'; Team3S List (E-mail); Starnet 3Si Mailing
List
> (E-mail)
> Subject: RE: Team3S: FYI: Curb Weight Data
for '95 3000GT
>
> > I was going to weigh one wheel at a time at
a weigh station,
> > and I was told that these weights would NOT be
valid.
> > Supposedly, the only way to get valid corner weights
is to
> > weigh all four tires at the same time.
>
>
Assuming that the ground is completely level and the amount of downward
>
travel exhibited by the plate in response to the weight of the car is
>
negligible, I don't see why they wouldn't be valid. BTW, the scales
I
> used
> are only accurate to +/- 10lbs, so if you want extremely
accurate
> measurements, you'd have to get a more precise scale.
Since all the
> corner
> weights add up to the Front, Left, Right,
and Rear subtotals, as well as
> the
> total weight of the car, and
the front/rear and total weights agree with
> mfg
> data, I'm pretty
confident in my measurements.
>
> Maybe I'll go back and try 3
wheels on one plate and 1 on another plate,
> just to be sure.
>
> --Erik
>
>
------
----------
> Erik
Gross
DuPont, WA
> '95 Glacier White Pearl 3000GT (NA, DOHC,
5MT) 77,000 mi
> Magnacor
KV85, M1 10W30, K&N FIPK, Skippy PCV Catch Can,
>
Tein HA Coilovers, SZ50EP 245/45/ZR17, 17x8.5J 1GTT wheels
> '94
Algae-Blue "fun to slide around corners" Corolla 74,000mi
>
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Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 21:16:29
+0100
From: "George Shaw" <
george.shaw@btinternet.com>
Subject:
Team3S: Offset (&Thanks for the AirCon replies)
Ok First off thanks
to all who helped out on my questions about the AirCon.
I have found someone
to do it in NI and am waiting on a quote. Now for more
of the same only
different.
What wheel offset is used on our cars. I have heard different
figures quoted
and my head is starting to rotate :)
Details
required are for:
Z15A and Z16A models 1990 2000
17" and 18"
alloys (and 19" if anyone runs them)
especially the offset and dish for
the larger callipers on the UK models.
Does anyone have the best offset to
use so far I have been told
18"/19" x 8.5" offset 42mm
I am
hoping to get a set of alloys made and need to be sure of the
dimensions.
Help!
- --
George Shaw - CTO
XL Solutions
Ltd
eMail:
george.shaw@xlsolutions.comeMail:
george.shaw@btinternet.comOffice:
+44 (0) 28 9092 5000
Fax/Voice Mail: +44 (0) 87 0133 6126
Fax/Voice
Mail: +44 (0) 87 0831
4052
Mobile:
+44 (0) 78 1162
5179
Home:
+44 (0) 28 9062
8924
ICQ#:
1741675
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Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 14:18:03
-0600
From: Dave Monarchi <
monarchd@refuge.Colorado.EDU>
Subject:
Team3S: parts needed / for sale
sorry for the non-technical post, but I
know a number of you have
parts cars or know of parts cars around.
I
need:
1) manual sunroof regulator mechanism (the gear assembly that
raises
the rear of the big glass roofs)
2) A/C compressor
- not positive I need it, but I think the clutch on
mine failed
so I dunno whether it's fixable yet.
3) center console cover - the part
that flips up between the seats. I
don't need the whole
console, just the cover.
4) Aftermarket BOV and boost controller.
bargain priced, not just sale
price of a new unit.
I
have:
1) set of 4 1st gen 17" VR4 wheels with basically brand new
Goodyear
Eagle snows - 245/45/VR17. Great second set of
wheels so you don't
beat up the pretty summer ones. Or
use as a set of race wheels as
they're stronger/safer
than any aftermarket wheel. They can be seen
at:
http://ucsu.colorado.edu/~monarchd/3000gt/wheels.html2)
Stock cat back exhaust. not the active exhaust type.
PLEASE
REPLY PRIVATELY!
Thanks!
:)
Dave
=======================
= 95 Black 3000GT VR4 =
= 87
Mica Red GTI G60 =
http://ucsu.colorado.edu/~monarchd/cars.html
= There is no spoon.. =
=======================
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Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 15:44:21
-0600
From: Desert Fox <
bigfoot@simmgene.com>
Subject:
Team3S: Weight
I just called out to the weigh station closest to me and
they said they can
weigh my car on a per axle basis. How is everybody getting
these 4 point
weights? Are they really necessary or is front/back good
enough?
On another note, after going from spring to winter here in
Montana, I have
switched back and forth between my snow tires (Pirelli Snow
210 235/45R17 on
17" Mille Miglia Spider rims from Tire Rack) and all-season
(Marshall Power
Racer II 225/40R18 on 18" factory rims) twice now. One thing
is for certain
- - along with any damage to the factory rims that came with
the car when I
bought it, I think I really bent one good (left front) when I
had a blowout
driving back to Montana from Texas. There is a noticeable bit
of vibration
with these wheels on that is not apparent when using the new 17"
wheels. Are
the factory wheels hosed or are there outfits that
fix/repair/bend rims back
into shape? Has anybody had any work done to their
factory chrome 18"
wheels? I mean, they are drivable but not as silky smooth
as the new wheels.
Call me crazy but I actually like the look of
non-chrome wheels on the VR-4.
I guess from my firearm enthusiast standpoint,
chrome tends to "cheapen" the
look of almost anything. OTOH, since these are
the OEM wheels, I'd like to
keep them running so that I have a "stock"
configuration.
Also, after 4 tanks of fuel, my mileage has INCREASED to
18mpg after
installing the K&N Aircharger (63-1000; big ugly one with
screw sticking out
the end). THANK GOD! At 15mpg, I might as well have been
driving my F150
4X4!;-)
And as far as I can tell, my stock BOV isn't
leaking.<g>
- --
Paul/.
95 black 3000GT VR-4
98 VFR800F,
TBR aluminum hi exit
formerly reasonable and prudent
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Date: 10 Apr 2001 14:48:27
-0700
From: John Monnin <
jkmonnin@altavista.com>
Subject:
Team3S: Weighing Chassis
If you want to calculate the verticle center of
gravity of a chassis you lift one end of the chassis, measure the weight
difference on the lower axle then plug it into a formula (e-mail me if you want
this formula.)
You have to lift a UPS truck about a foot to get a 10 lb
difference on axle weight. I would not worry about the deference on scale height
it for weighing your car one wheel at a time.
John Monnin
1991
VR-4
jkmonnin@altavista.comoriginal
messge below:
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 11:46:13 -0700
From: "Gross,
Erik" <
erik.gross@intel.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: FYI: Curb Weight Data for '95 3000GT
> I was going to weigh one wheel at a time at a weigh station,
> and I was told that these weights would NOT be valid.
> Supposedly, the only way to get valid corner weights is to
>
weigh all four tires at the same time.
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Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 18:52:02
-0400
From: Mark Hindelang <
hindelan@pilot.msu.edu>
Subject:
Team3S: Optimal Wheel Size offset
All stock rims on vr4 (1992) is 17x8.5
wheels.
With the drive train ratios (which i am unaware of off the top of
my
head - the power to wheel transfer -)
what wheel sizes are optimal for
racing/normal driving/aggresive
driving.
Over all im looking for very
aggresive road racing and handling. Would
a setup of 19x9.0 or
9.5 in the front and 19x10 in the rear be a
good
configuration?
does anyone have any expertise in this
area.
It very well could be that 19x10 is too large and than 19x8.5 or
19x9.0
and rear wheels with 19x9.5 are the best
configuration.
Thank you for your help.
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Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 18:09:26
-0700
From: Richard <
radanc@home.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S:
Big Red Kit
You should also check out the A/P racing 6 piston caliper
with
Gigantarotors (355x35.5mm). This is the ultimate, but a bit pricey
.
Sold by Stillen. Terry at KVR has raved about these and Matt Monet
at
Dynamic is having them put on one of his Stealths. Even better
are
leading and trailing caliper setups. I think the caliper I have
is
slightly better then the big red since the piston size and SA
are
greater with the F40, but I don't know if it makes that much
difference
not having used the big reds.
Rich
92 Stealth
TT
Simon Jones wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Is the Big
Red kit still available from Brad? I tried e-mailing him last
>
week, but haven't had any response.
>
> Also, is the part number
for Porterfield cryo'd front discs for the kit
> JBR785 regardless of the
year of the car. What pads do people use with this
> kit?
>
> Many thanks,
>
> Simon Jones
> '94 GTO
>
www.3kgto.freeserve.co.uk>
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Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 18:22:43
-0700
From: "Jim Berry" <
fastmax@home.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S:
Big Red Kit
- ----- Original Message -----
From: Merritt <
merritt@cedar-rapids.net>
>
> Don't be too sure. One instructor, who drove a prepared 944S Porsche,
said
> I had better brakes than he did. When it's got a set of new, fat,
nicely
> warmed up (hot!) Hawk Blue pads, it stops like you threw out an
anchor. I
> mean, it stops NOW!
> Rich/94 VR4/Big Reds/Hawk
Blues/BFG SS lines/air ducts/water injection
All right Rich when in
the hell are you going to install those blowers you bought
for your brakes
?????
Jim
Berry
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Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 20:28:11
-0500
From: "Oskar" <
osk@mediaone.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S:
BG synchroshift
Buschur Racing sells it for $9 a bottle + s/h.
http://www.buschurracing.com/Oskar
'95
R/T TT
- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Berry" <
fastmax@home.com>
To: <
team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
Sent:
Monday, April 09, 2001 10:22 PM
Subject: Team3S: BG
synchroshift
> Anybody know who sells BG synchroshift trans fluid
????????????
>
> Jim Berry
>
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Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 21:40:26
-0500
From: "john adams" <
johnqadamsiii@yahoo.com>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: parts needed / for sale
Speaking of parts, I am still in need
of most of the ones
needed for the 120 K service I just mentioned.
Charles
was nice enough to offer some help from oklahoma, though
so far
I'm not quite there yet. No dealerships in my area, Dallas,
had hardly much
of the parts I needed, so Im holding off on ordering
them for now, given
their high prices (and that if I (re)order mine as
well look for cheaper).
As I stated, my carparts.com ordered was
incorrect - the waterpump
doesnt quite match up, timing belt incorrect
(too narrow), wrong
tensioner, wrong timing cover seal, etc. Is this a
viable avenue for
attaining the parts - their prices are the cheapest I've
found. Especially
for the timing belt, which is a good 1/3 the price on a
number of their
listed manufactures for the part (why so cheap?).
Thanks.
john
- -----Original Message-----
From: Dave Monarchi
<
monarchd@refuge.Colorado.EDU>
To:
team3s@stealth-3000gt.st <
team3s@stealth-3000gt.st>
Date:
Tuesday, April 10, 2001 3:19 PM
Subject: Team3S: parts needed / for
sale
>
>sorry for the non-technical post, but I know a number of
you have
>parts cars or know of parts cars around.
>
>I
need:
>
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Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 22:34:34
-0500
From: Merritt <
merritt@cedar-rapids.net>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: Big Red Kit
>
>All right Rich when in the hell are
you going to install those blowers you
bought
>for your brakes
?????
>
I was all set to last weekend. I pulled off the bottom cover,
removed the
air dam, and said, "oh boy, they will fit right here, under the
radiator!"
Now I can't find the dang things. I've looked everywhere (well,
obviously
not EVERYWHERE) in two garages, basement, and every room in the
house. I
can't figure out where they got off to.
So I settled for
running an air duct from the driving light hole. Guess
I'll have to order
another set of blowers.
Rich/old poop
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Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 23:01:03
-0500
From: "Brad Bedell" <
bbedell@austin.rr.com>
Subject:
RE: Team3S: Big Red Kit
>>I don't think anybody hits them any
harder than I do. As hard, I'm sure,
>>but not harder. It's a good
thing that Brad supplies great big brackets
>>made out of some super
strong metal (such as Roger Penske's legendary
>>unobtanium) and Grade
8 aircraft mounting bolts, because otherwise Ida
>>snapped them mothers
off long ago.
*blush*
Anyhow, brakes are still
available. I've delivered them in less than 6
weeks (7-10days
being the fastest) But I sure don't want to quote any
faster due to
potential backorders this time of year. I do communicate well
and will
not BS you as to what I know about the status of parts ordered.
Price is 1475
+ shipping (gone up due to caliper price increase). This
mailing list
supplies all install docs ;)
Email me directly regarding the
brakes.
Brad
Check out my home page:
http://home.austin.rr.com/overboost/E-Mail:
bbedell@austin.rr.com ICQ#
3612682
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Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 00:11:50
-0400
From: "Schilberg, Darren" <
DSchilberg@freemarkets.com>
Subject:
RE: Team3S: Big Red Kit
Kudos to Brad. The Mitsu dealer and even
the performance shop I go to
commented on them. That helped offset the
6+ hour install time I got to
enjoy learning about my front
brakes.
After I took pictures of my delivery he mentioned that the bolts
might have
been 5 mm too short (they were). He shipped another set
2-day and free of
charge. He also replaced the two brackets free of
charge and free delivery.
He then called after I sent pix of the install to
make sure everything was
correct, fit well, etc. I'm not saying he will
call everyone like this but
I had some basic questions (like what SS line
goes where) and he followed up
to set me straight.
Everything except
the calipers were sent within about a week of the order
and Brad had to wait
for the calipers to be replenished as someone in TX
ordered 6 sets and bled
the warehouse dry. They were shipped to me no more
than a day or two
after Brad received them. Great service.
Not many shops you buy
parts from know how these things get installed. I
like the peace of
mind of having Brad a phone call away. He also test-fit
the brakes onto
his car's wheel to make sure all pieces fit correctly.
Thanks.
-
--Flash!
1995 VR-4 with Big Reds ready for Mid-Ohio this weekend
-
-----Original Message-----
From: Brad Bedell
[mailto:bbedell@austin.rr.com]
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2001 00:01
To:
Merritt; Schilberg, Darren;
TurboDrvn@aol.com; Schilberg, Darren;
gemohler@speedracer.speedtoys.com;
simon@3kgto.freeserve.co.ukCc:
team3s@stealth-3000gt.stSubject:
RE: Team3S: Big Red Kit
Anyhow, brakes are still available.
I've delivered them in less than 6
weeks (7-10days being the fastest)
But I sure don't want to quote any
faster due to potential backorders this
time of year. I do communicate well
and will not BS you as to what I
know about the status of parts ordered.
Price is 1475 + shipping (gone up due
to caliper price increase). This
mailing list supplies all install docs
;)
Email me directly regarding the brakes.
Brad
Check out my
home page:
http://home.austin.rr.com/overboost/***
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Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 00:49:37
-0400
From: "Schilberg, Darren" <
DSchilberg@freemarkets.com>
Subject:
RE: Team3S: Big Red Kit
To anyone who is not intimately familiar with
your wheels, offset, spacers,
etc. Be careful what size rotors you can
use as your wheels might not fit
back over your caliper and rotor
combo.
Yes wider is better, but even the Big Reds weight 8 pounds but
don't move)
and the stock rotor weighs 16# and 17" wheel and tire is about
50#. This
gets you 66# of unsprung mass slinging around and at speeds
over 115 mph
this is one helluva lot of inertia (I think that is the right
word). Gawd
only knows how much those 355-sized rotors
weigh.
And not to start a battle, but someone measured the surface area
of the AP-6
piston calipers and the Big Red-4 piston calipers and did a
comparison.
More is not always better but it certainly does help with the
bigger rotor
(on a smaller rotor for example it might not be as
noticeable).
- --Flash!
1995 VR-4 with Big Reds
- -----Original
Message-----
From: Richard [mailto:radanc@home.com]
Sent: Tuesday, April
10, 2001 21:09
Cc: 3S Tech List
Subject: Re: Team3S: Big Red
Kit
You should also check out the A/P racing 6 piston caliper
with
Gigantarotors (355x35.5mm). This is the ultimate, but a bit pricey
.
Sold by Stillen. Terry at KVR has raved about these and Matt Monet
at
Dynamic is having them put on one of his Stealths. Even better
are
leading and trailing caliper setups. I think the caliper I have
is
slightly better then the big red since the piston size and SA
are
greater with the F40, but I don't know if it makes that much
difference
not having used the big reds.
Rich
92 Stealth
TT
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Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 01:19:35
EDT
From:
FRAGU172@aol.comSubject:
Team3S: North East Gathering june 8,9,10
Gentelmen (and ladies?) , I am
Pleased and Honored to invite all of you (and=
=20
friends and family) to
the first annual North East Gathering, which will be=20
held here in
Rochester NY on JUNE 8,9 & 10th , hosted by our own 40+ car
3Si=
=20
chapter, I myself am the Organizer of this HUGE ordeal (tons of
help too, CO=
=20
Ken Stanton) , pre head count is at around 50 total
(circa january) . with=20
about 20 coming from Rochester, the rest coming
from Ontario canada, and=20
about 5 other states! the event is going to be on
a nice easy schedule with=20
maps and such provided for visitors of our fine
city,=20
Itinerary includes the following: Friday, Meet and check in to
hotels (many=20
hotels to choose from, hi class hotel prices from 89 per
night!) Saturday,=20
Carshow at HOOTERS, i got the hookups. (10 free wings
for all who enter the=20
show! Care of the GM of the restaurant, oh and wait
till you see big boobs=20
amy.. (-: =A0=A0) this event is being integrated
with a beer promotion ( $1.=
99=20
bottles) with either Coors or Miller
lite, with a RADIO CROSS PROMOTION,=20
(once again. i have the hookups!) sat
afternoon, awards and dinner location=20
TBA, most likely . =A0sat night High
Falls entertainment! Jillians (bowling,=
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pool, dancing, 3 full service
bars, food, video games, 28+crowd) Chrome (NYC=
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Stylee sick bar thats
not open till the mid of april, i have the inside trac=
k=20
on thier
advertising account so ive seen it already.. its sweet! 21+ crowd)=20
Centers
(HUGE club main theme NYC club, including a rock bar inside, jazz=20
club
inside, 2 level balcony with outside bars overlooking the waterfalls=20
with
lazer light show 21+ crowd) And others that ill mention in
the=20
itinerary.=20
Sunday, shake off hang over and start SCCA solo2 auto
cross rally (for those=
=20
who wish to attend)=20
those are just some
of the things we have planned. if youre interested e-mai=
l=20
me
privatley and you will be added to my mailing list so i can send
you=20
updates and things of that nature to point you in the right
direction!=20
thanks again for the time. sorry its so long but its gonna be
so fun!=20
- -=A7teven J=20
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Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 09:46:05
+0200
From: Roger Gerl <
roger.gerl@bluewin.ch>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: Big Red Kit (!)
>You should also check out the A/P racing
6 piston caliper with
>Gigantarotors (355x35.5mm). This is the ultimate,
but a bit pricey .
And its a kit for the 3S cars ??? No, I don't think
so.
Guys, we are not able to do the math as it is not our daily business,
so we
have to TRUST the people offereing such huge stuff. Unfortunately,
some
tuners are simply think of bigger is better (what is not true o
nintercoolers) and put some stuff together without doign the math for the
rest of the parts around the front axle. This is why the Bremsa/Brembo kit
is limited to 320mm on our cars as the stopping power of this system does
not exceed the force the suspension can withstadn before any damage to any
part may occur. They did the math and said not to use their 330mm rotors
with any calipers due to the high risk. There are too many factors that are
needed to calculate this and there is no rule of thumb. Unfortunately, NO
ONE was able yet to show me the calculation for a live-saving (am I wrong
or what ?) system. The Porsche setup (big reds) with standard 314 mm sized
rotors may be the ones that are of no danger but delivers better braking.
Although the system is made for a car that has it's engine in the rear, the
breakign weight distribution comes close to ours, so this is the way one
can go with.
By the way, here in Switzerland (and some countries of
Europe), every
little thing that is involved in road safety (springs,
shocks, brakes,
brake-lines, wheels, tires) MUST be shown to the government
to proove the
functionality. The Bremsa rotors came through with lots of
talking, but no
way for the Big Reds ! The checked the system and and had no
probel mto the
calipers but did NOT ACCEPT the brackets from Brad due to
aluminum heat
flexing. I have to find any shop that creates a bracket out of
stainless
steel, smaller but stronger and will eventually pass the
government test
then. The Brembo/Bremsa kit on one of my clients Probe
passed without a
problem.
Roger
93'3000GT TT
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Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 02:08:43
-0700
From: "Bob Forrest" <
bf@bobforrest.com>
Subject: Team3S:
ADMIN: Notice to AOL users...
As if America OnLine's newest software were
not dangerous enough to you
(please email privately if you want us to send
you all the gory details),
the latest version, AOL6, is also incompatible
with the Team3 list. It
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Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 04:29:52
-0700 (PDT)
From: John Christian <
jczoom_619@yahoo.com>
Subject:
Team3S: MidOhio road course invitation
Hi all,
Here's an
invite for Mid Ohio.
Be of good cheer,
John
Subject: pads + tracking + May event
Date:
Tue, 10 Apr 2001 21:33:03 -0400
From: "Paul Weston" <
paul@paulweston.com>
To: <
JCZoom@iname.com>
If
you know anyone interested, the PCA Potomac event
at Mid Ohio on May
18-20
has been opened to other marques. We have room
for about 18-20
more
drivers. It's a 3 day event with a track walk on
Friday
evening. Visit
www.pcapotomac.org for details and
forms. I happen to
be the event chair so
people can contact me for
questions.
Thanks for the order, John. Your pads should be
at
the Super 8 when you
arrive. You can check on progress at
www.ups.com.
I sent you fronts in
07 compound to better tolerate
the heat of 944T and 2
drivers. They
should last longer under those
conditions than the 03 pads
would.
Also sent a set of 345.03 for the rear. Hope
you folks have
good
weather and a safe event.
If you know anyone interested,
the PCA Potomac event
at Mid Ohio on May
18-20 has been opened to other
marques. We have room
for about 18-20 more
drivers. It's a 3
day event with a track walk on
Friday evening. Visit
www.pcapotomac.org for details and
forms. I happen to
be the event chair so
people can contact me for
questions.
Take care and thanks again.
Paul
Weston
Weston MotorSports
888 558 0631
=====
Please respond
to
jczoom@iname.com'93 TT with Porsche
brakes and Supra TT rotors
12.4@109MPH
5/97 almost stock
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Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 05:02:41
-0700 (PDT)
From: John Christian <
jczoom_619@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: Big Red Kit
Hi Simon,
- --- Simon Jones <
Team3S@3kgto.freeserve.co.uk>
wrote:
> Is the Big Red kit still available from Brad?
- ---> I'm
sure it is.
> What pads do people use with this kit?
- ---> I've
used the KFP 594-03 from Weston MotorSports
for the last three racing
seasons. Price is about
$170. The KFP compound 03 is similar to
the
Porterfield R4 race pad. You can contact Paul at
"Paul Weston"
<
paul@paulweston.com>.
I
have also used the stock Porsche pad 993-351-949-00
priced about
$90.
Clarification--The BIG REDS with the KFP pads are a
great track
combination, but one set of pads won't
last three seasons.
Be of good
cheer,
John
=====
Please respond to
jczoom@iname.com'93 TT with Porsche
brakes and Supra TT rotors
12.4@109MPH
5/97 almost stock
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Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 08:52:30
-0500
From: "Mark Wendlandt" <
stealth_tt@hotmail.com>
Subject:
Team3S: 15G vs. 15G
Does anyone know what the difference is between the
15Gs(TDO4H) that
turbochargers.com offer and the 15Gs(TDO4HL) that Turbo
Specialities-www.turborepair.com offer.
I know that the H in TDO4H is
the larger turbine, but I was not familiar
with the "L". Jeff Lucius's
page says "remanufacture, "true" TD04-15G
(using TD04HL-15G wheels)" for the
Turbo Specialities turbos.
15G TURBOS FOR THE 3000 GT/ DODGE STEALTH
ARE
<snip from
www.turborepair.com>
FINISHED ....
AND WE MUST SAY THEY ARE A PAIR OF MONSTERS! IF YOU AND YOUR
CAR ARE READY,
GIVE US A CALL THESE ARE TRUE 15G UPGRADES, USING THE TD04HL
COMPRESSORS AND
TURBINE
SECTIONS. THEY ARE A TIGHT FIT, AND WE CALL THEM A PAIR OF
MONSTERS FOR A
REASON, IT TAKES SOME CREATIVE WELDING AND MACHIENING TO MAKE
IT ALL HAPPEN!
THE END RESULT IS A DIRECT BOLT ON UPGRADE THAT WILL SUPPORT
AN HONEST 500+
HORSEPOWER WITH GREAT RESPONSE TIME, FACTORY RELIABILITY AND
ABSOLUTE ROCK
STEADY BOOST CAPABILITY.
<end snip>
I just
want to make an informative decision...I thought that all 15G
compressors
were the same..the only difference was the turbine. Is this
like the
BIG 16G in the DSM world?
Thanks,
Mark
Wendlandt
'91RT/TT
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Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 18:49:39
+0200
From: "Jim Matthews" <
jim@the-matthews.com>
Subject: RE:
Team3S: Big Red Kit
Did anyone ever find out more about the full-contact
brakes at
http://www.newtech-ibs.com/aswf/flashanglais.htm?
-
- --
Jim Matthews - Munich, Germany
mailto:jim@the-matthews.com (64 Kbps
ISDN)
http://www.the-matthews.com***
3000GT-Stealth International (3Si) Member #0030 ***
http://members.stealth-3000gt.st/~matthews/stealth.htmlJet
Black '94 Dodge Stealth R/T Twin-Turbo AWD AWS 6-spd
Adjustable Active
Suspension, Adjustable Exhaust System
K&N FIPK, A'PEXi Super AVC-R v.1
(1.0 bar @ 64% BADC)
A'PEXi Turbo Timer (30 sec), Blitz Super Blow-Off
Valve
Magnecore spark plug wires, Optima Red Top 830 Battery
Redline synth
fluids (trans= MT-90, xfer & diff= SPHvy)
Porterfield cryo-treated
rotors, R4S pads, braided lines
Michelin Pilot XGT-Z4 245/45ZR17, Top Speed:
171 mph
G-Tech Pro: 0-60 4.79 sec, 1/4 13.16 sec @ 113.9 mph
1 Feb 99 Dyno
Session: 367 SAE HP, 354 lb-ft torque
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Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 13:13:52
-0500
From: Danny Melton <
dmelton@hypertech-inc.com>
Subject:
Team3S: Boost Problems - Please Help!
I've been tinkering with the car
for the past week and still haven't made any progress. So I guess I will ask for
help again.
Right now, the boost on my car is setup to stock specs. However,
I am only hitting about 6-7lbs of boost. After much frustration, I decided to
unplug the two hoses going into the stock "boost solenoid valve", which in the
past has bypassed the waste-gates giving me max boost. This time however, I am
only hitting 6-7lbs of boost. So I plugged the hoses back into the solenoid and
unplugged the hose (black w/red ends) from the Y-pipe that connects to the "hose
distributor". This time the boost quickly jumped to 14-15lbs and I had to get
off the gas in mid-throttle or else blow my engine.
I am using an AutoMeter
boost gauge, so I should be getting an accurate boost reading.
So, what's
wrong? Any ideas/comments will be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Danny
Melton
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Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 11:25:31
-0700 (PDT)
From: Jeff Lucius <
stealthman92@yahoo.com>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: Boost Problems - Please Help!
I assume you have a completely
stock BC steup. If you unplugged the
two hoses that go to the stock BC
solenoid, then you should have made
a huge pressure leak. The stock setup is
like this if memory serves
me.
Y-pipe hose to "H"
H to: 1)
front wastegate
2) rear
wastegate
3) BC solenoid
When you
unplugged the hoses to the BC solenoid and boost did not
change (that is
increase from 6-7 psi) then there was no leak, all
pressure when to the
wastegates. So maybe a hose is blocked? Try
removing a BC solenoid hose right
at the "H". You could also try a
"T" to run straight from the Y-pipe to the
wastegates in case the "H"
itself is blocked.
Of course, when you
removed the Y-pipe hose (the source of pressure
to the wastegates), the
wastegates never opened and boost built
freely.
Jeff Lucius,
www.stealth316.com- ----- Original
Message -----
From: "Danny Melton" <
dmelton@hypertech-inc.com>
To:
"3S Tech List" <
team3s@stealth-3000gt.st>
Sent:
Wednesday, April 11, 2001 12:13 PM
Subject: Team3S: Boost Problems - Please
Help!
I've been tinkering with the car for the past week and still
haven't
made any progress. So I guess I will ask for help again.
Right
now, the boost on my car is setup to stock specs. However, I am
only hitting
about 6-7lbs of boost. After much frustration, I decided
to unplug the two
hoses going into the stock "boost solenoid valve",
which in the past has
bypassed the waste-gates giving me max boost.
This time however, I am only
hitting 6-7lbs of boost. So I plugged
the hoses back into the solenoid and
unplugged the hose (black w/red
ends) from the Y-pipe that connects to the
"hose distributor". This
time the boost quickly jumped to 14-15lbs and I had
to get off the
gas in mid-throttle or else blow my engine.
I am using an
AutoMeter boost gauge, so I should be getting an
accurate boost
reading.
So, what's wrong? Any ideas/comments will be greatly
appreciated.
Thanks,
Danny Melton
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Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 13:40:40
-0500
From: Danny Melton <
dmelton@hypertech-inc.com>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: Boost Problems - Please Help!
Jeff - Your assumption is
correct, I do have a completely stock BC setup. I
have a feeling that a hose
is blocked, but I am not totally sure. I assume
that if a vacuum leak equals
a lot of boost, then a clogged hose would mean
little or no
boost.
Something I forgot to mention, I did pull the hose from the intake and
the
one coming from the H-connector to the BC solenoid and when I blew in
the
hose from the intake I could literally feel it come out of the other
hose.
This sorta tosses out my idea of a clogged hose, because if the air
flows
freely to the solenoid, then when I disconnected the two hoses from
the BC
solenoid I would essentially be doing the same thing as when I
unplugged
the hose from the intake.
This is truly a confusing and
annoying problem for me.
Thanks,
Danny Melton
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Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 15:00:24
-0400 (EDT)
From: "Mark William Hindelang" <
hindelan@pilot.msu.edu>
Subject:
Team3S: Apex AVCR install correct?
is there any way that i can truthfully
tell that the apex avcr the new indiglo
unit is wired to my car correctly??
should it give me a particular reading
somehow that would indicate it IS
wired properly. im looking for a solution
other than looking at the
wires themselves, its too confusing down there.
ive had this thing for a
year and still can not produce boost levels.
my boost guage (apex as well)
says it jumps to about 10 and then goes down to
8. so it spikes to 10,
and then dropps. no matter WHAT i do to tune in the
apex avcr i can't
get any boost ubove that.
my mods are
KN Fipk.
Apex
AVCR
Apex AFC
Mag Wires 8.5
Pluggs gapped 0.32
ATR Downpipe to
straight pipe
ATR FULL exhaust NO CAT
Ypipe metal
Cusco Bar
I
should be able to pull a lot with this setup. but im not.
and i can't figure
out what the hell is going on.
i used to be able to spike up to 11psi and
drop to 10, but that is because
i had a HUGE leak in one of my hoses.. i
found that to be the culprit, and
honestly think that the guy who set it up
knew he did it wrong, and meant to
cut a hole in my hose to give me more
boost to cover up his stupid mistake of
not installing it
right.
thanks.
Mark
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Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 14:16:26
-0500
From: Merritt <
merritt@cedar-rapids.net>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: Boost Problems - Please Help!
>st. So I plugged the hoses
back into the solenoid and unplugged the hose
(black w/red ends) from the
Y-pipe that connects to the "hose distributor".
This time the boost quickly
jumped to 14-15lbs and I had to get off the gas
in mid-throttle or else blow
my engine.
You are not alone. The same thing happened to me last year,
when I tried to
install a manual boost valve. While we were fooling with it,
we were
bouncing off 21 psi and blowing off the Y-pipe. Never did figure it
out, so
I am back to stock boost.
The upshot is that our cars are a
complex mess of tubing and wiring that
only guys like Roger and Curt
understand. My advice to you is to find
somebody who knows what he is doing
and beg and plead so they will help
you. I am fortunate in that Curt G is
going to install a DSBC for me (one
of these days, when I get my car back on
the road), and it will only cost
me a case of Moose Drool beer. Find somebody
like Curt within driving
distance and get help.
Seriously, just about
everybody on this list is willing to help out
everybody else. Like me, fer
instance. What do you want to know about your
brakes?
Rich/old
poop
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