Team3S: 3000GT & Stealth   Monday, February 2 2004   Volume 02 : Number 360
Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 18:03:14 -0700
From: "Jim Floyd" <>
Subject: RE: Team3S: TEC Strut Bar - Plenum Contact! - Motor Mounts?
I have the TEC with no problems but I also have polyurethane engine mounts.
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Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 20:33:13 -0800
From: Gizmo <>
Subject: Team3S: I did it!  I'm so full of myself it's funny...
Two months ago I decided to do a complete 60K maintenance on my  N/A
Stealth slush box. I ripped off the plenum/throttlebody,removed the
front timing belt covers,alternator,A/C compressor, dryer, expansion
valve, wires and plugs. Put a camlock on and removed the old timing belt
and water pump, idler pulley,tensioner pulley and auto tensioner. Got
advice from you guys on how to set my timing, put the whole shebang back
together, crossed everything I could cross, put the key in and after 3
revs from the starter motor VaROOOOOM! Yahoo!
Sincerest thanks Folks! I had my doubts as to my ability to do this
(present condition being the hardest part) but with your advice and a
little coaxing it only took 2 months to do a 2 weekend job and I got my
ride back!
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Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 22:20:24 -0700
From: "Steve Mitchell" <>
Subject: Re: Team3S: I did it!  I'm so full of myself it's funny...
At risk of sounding like an idiot, where does one
get a "camlock". I usually use a couple of sockets
and bolts but envisioned a tool like this must exist.
Just never have been able to find one ...
Steve M
'91 Dodge Stealth R/T TT AWD
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Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 23:38:50 -0600
From: "Rich Merritt" <>
Subject: Team3S: Changing turbos
I dunno how anybody changes turbos with the engine in the car. We had the engine out, and it still took 2-3 hours to get the turbos off plus all their coolant and oil lines. Some of those bolts and studs are danged difficult to get to. For example, the oil line to the front turbo goes behind the air conditioner compressor, so all that stuff had to come off. If we had to do this with the engine in the car, it would take an entire weekend.
(We took off all the oil lines and assorted other parts so I can get them hot tanked and cleaned.)
Soon, I'll have a set of stock 9Bs and 360cc injectors available in case anybody needs replacements or wants to upgrade a nonturbo car. The car has near 90,000 miles and everything works (it turned 13.01 at 105 mph, and probably could turn in the 12s if I knew how to drive it on a drag strip).
What are stock turbos and injectors worth on the market?
I hear I can sell the 9Bs for $300 to a turbo shop somewhere.
Rich/slow old poop 
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Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 23:39:23 -0700
From: "Steve Mitchell" <>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Changing turbos
Check with Dynamic Racing.
They gave me $300 for my cores ...
Steve M
'91 Dodge Stealth R/T TT AWD
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Date: Sun,  1 Feb 2004 00:53:28 -0600
From: "Rich Merritt" <>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Changing turbos
Oh, yeah...THAT's the place I heard about.
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Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2004 00:34:45 -0700
From: "Steve Simonds" <>
Subject: Team3S: Saner Rear Sway bar doesn't fit
I spent the day installing my recently purchased Saner rear sway bar on my
1994 Dodge Stealth TT AWD but I can't seem to figure out how to attach the
ends to the lower control arms.  They appear to be a little short.  The ends
on each side are about 1/2" to 1" short of reaching the attachment point on
the lower control arm.  Each side is about the same so I don't think the bar
is installed skewed to one side.
I used the instructions that were posted by Dameon Rachell in May 2003, V2
#165 of the digest.  They were quite good and I took pictures all the way
through the removel process.  And the process proceeded smoothly - it took
about 3 1/2 hrs to remove the old bar and another 3 hrs to put everything
back.  Everything fit as it should except for the  ends not reaching the
attachment points on the lower control arm.
Am I missing something obvious?  Is this a know problem?  I haven't seen any
posts over the years saying there was anything wrong with the Saner bars.
Thanks for any help that can be provided.
Steve Simonds
1994 Dodge Stealth TT AWD
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Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2004 11:01:18 -0500
From: "The Furmans" <>
Subject: Re: Team3S: TEC Strut Bar - Plenum Contact! - Motor Mounts?
Dan I can guarantee you that its one or both of your lower roller
mounts allowing the engine to move like that, replacing the rear lower
with the engine still in the car is a RMFPITA.  As a side not
definitely go poly mounts, from the sounds of your clutch you plan on
making some real crank HP and as such the stockers aren't going to
last long.
Russ F
93 VR-4 True Garrett GT-30R's and a few other things (time show the
rest of the country what the CT boys can do)
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Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2004 08:48:06 -0800
From: "Ken Middaugh" <>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Saner Rear Sway bar doesn't fit
Can you jack up the wheels an inch until it reaches?
- -Ken
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Date: Sun,  1 Feb 2004 11:18:27 -0600
From: "Rich Merritt" <>
Subject: Team3S: Mike the Mechanic Makes House Calls
Here's a new resource for Midwestern 3000GT/Stealth owners.
I just discovered that my tuner, Mike Willis, makes house calls. He lives in Des Moines, and is travelling to someplace in BFE, Nebraska (300 miles away) to pull an engine from a VR4, remove the tranny, and take it home to rebuild. They will also figure out why the engine is knocking so bad. The VR4 owner has access to an engine rebuilder, but doesn't know how to get the motor out. I presume that Mike will put it all back together after the rebuild.
So far, on my car, Mike has helped me pull two trannies, an engine, and we are in the middle of a turbo upgrate to 15Gs, SAFC, injectors, etc.
For all you folks in the Midwest who need help with trannies, engines, and mods, you might consider talking to Mike. And, for all I know, maybe he'll jump on an airplane and go to the Left Coast. Air fares are mighty cheap these days.
Contact him at 
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Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2004 17:22:10 -0000
From: "Jim Matthews" <>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Wheel choices
I recently came across this one:
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Jim Matthews - Yorkshire, England
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Jet Black '94 Dodge Stealth R/T Twin-Turbo AWD AWS 6-spd
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Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2004 07:30:06 -0700
From: "Steve Mitchell" <>
Subject: Team3S: Blow thru Maf-t
I'm setting up my Maf-t in blow thru mode.
450 injectors, 13g turbos,S-AFC. Anyone else
using this setup ? What settings are you using ?
Steve M
'91 Dodge Stealth R/T TT AWD
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