Team3S: 3000GT & Stealth Thursday, November 6 2003
Volume 02 : Number
293
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Date:
Wed, 5 Nov 2003 13:24:21 -0600 (CST)
From: Geoff Mohler <
gemohler@www.speedtoys.com>
Subject:
RE: Team3S: Saner Front Sway Bar Install Question
Im almost done with the
www issues.
I have a new test server running on port81, but not ALL sites
are on that
port yet.
Speedtoys relates sites are.
On Wed, 5
Nov 2003, Gross, Erik wrote:
> > The ride on the street is no
longer comfortable. The
> > suspension is incredibly
stiff.
> >
> > It drives fine, just rides rotten.
>
>
> > Chuck Willis
>
> For the record, I also have
upgraded both front and rear sway bars and I find the ride on the street in
"Tour" to be a little stiffer, but still very acceptable. "Sport" mode on
a crappy road is kinda rough, but that's what the ECS button is for :-)
>
> BTW, a lot of my web pages are currently inaccessible (it's not the
whole site or the DNS because some pages work). Geoff said he's working on
it (it affects team3s, speedtoys, and probably other sites, too)...
>
> --Erik
> '95 VR-4
www.team3s.com/~egross>
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Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 13:33:33
-0600
From: "Willis, Charles E." <
cewillis@TexasChildrensHospital.org>
Subject:
RE: Team3S: Saner Front Sway Bar Install Question
Do you also have
stiffer springs?
Chuck Willis
GC suspension with antisway bars front
and back
- -----Original Message-----
From: Gross, Erik
[mailto:erik.gross@intel.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 1:27
PM
To: Willis, Charles E.; Geoff Mohler
Cc: Mike Gerhard;
Team3S@stealth-3000gt.stSubject:
RE: Team3S: Saner Front Sway Bar Install Question
> The ride on
the street is no longer comfortable. The
> suspension is incredibly
stiff.
>
> It drives fine, just rides rotten.
>
>
Chuck Willis
For the record, I also have upgraded both front and rear
sway bars and I find the ride on the street in "Tour" to be a little stiffer,
but still very acceptable. "Sport" mode on a crappy road is kinda rough,
but that's what the ECS button is for :-)
BTW, a lot of my web pages are
currently inaccessible (it's not the whole site or the DNS because some pages
work). Geoff said he's working on it (it affects team3s, speedtoys, and
probably other sites, too)...
- --Erik
'95 VR-4
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Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 11:37:57
-0800
From: "Gross, Erik" <
erik.gross@intel.com>
Subject: RE:
Team3S: Saner Front Sway Bar Install Question
Ahh, that would make plenty
of difference :-) I have the stock ECS springs/shocks/struts. I
would think that upgraded sway bars in addition to stiffer springs would make
things a lot stiffer and probably more uncomfortable.
-
--Erik
> Do you also have stiffer springs?
>
> Chuck
Willis
> GC suspension with antisway bars front and
back
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Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2003 15:23:30
-0600
From: norman <
normanross@shaw.ca>
Subject: Re:
RE:Team3S: 91 stealth
well whats your car like off the line dose it
pull hard and fast can you
light up the tires and what is your stell at
and kind of car do you have
all so you send me some pic off your car amd
whare do you live Thanks norm
you can send pic to
normanross@shaw.ca if you have some. all
can any one
help me out in team 3
- ----- Original Message -----
From: norman
To: stealth ;
kdmorg@comcast.netSent: Wednesday,
November 05, 2003 9:51 AM
Subject: Re: RE:Team3S: 91
stealth
well whats your car like off the line dose it pull hard
and fast can you
light up the tires and what is your stell at and kind
of car do you have
all so you send me some pic off your car amd whare do you
live Thanks norm
you can send pic to
normanross@shaw.ca if you have some. all
can any one
help me out in team 3
- ----- Original Message -----
From:
Gizmo
To: 'norman'
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 5:23 PM
Subject:
RE: RE:Team3S: 91 stealth
I am at a loss norm. Perhaps someone else
with more experience with the mods
you have made may help. I run completely
stock. I'd check all your vacuum
lines and electrical connections to the
tranny and the engine. It may be as
simple as a loose vacuum line. Without
the vacuum sensors working properly
you may get a real problem from just a
mole hill of a cause.
Regards,
Keith
- -----Original
Message-----
From: norman [mailto:normanross@shaw.ca]
Sent: Tuesday,
November 04, 2003 3:06 PM
To: stealth;
kdmorg@comcast.netCc:
stealth
Subject: Re: RE:Team3S: 91 stealth
HI its norm no its a
new engine its been ported ,bordout to11.1 the heads
have been shaved, blue
print ,new rods the tranny was all done to and the
torgue was done ,shift kit
from b&m i have a round 5g in my car do you know
what the stell is
at ----- Original Message -----
From: Gizmo
To:
normanross@shaw.caSent: Tuesday,
November 04, 2003 11:48 AM
Subject: RE:Team3S: 91
stealth
Norm,
What does the engine sound like? Is it reving
high but you still are not
moving fast? Define "crawl". Have you checked your
fluid level? It could be
that your tranny is slipping and may need repairs or
your torque converter
is failing. Neither is a quick cheap fix. You could
also have a problem with
your OD. Does it do this when your OD is
off?
Regards,
Keith Morgavi (Biohazard)
'93 Stealth R/T NA
automatic.
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Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2003 14:09:57
-0800 (PST)
From:
davis2005@canada.comSubject: Team3S:
Speeding Ticket
Hi All! I just got a speeding ticket 112km in an
80km
zone. How do I get out of it? Any ideas?
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Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2003 22:12:49
-0000
From: "Jeff Lucius" <
jlucius@stealth316.com>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: Speeding Ticket
>From one of our own, Jeff
Mulligan:
http://www.beatmyspeedingticket.com/Jeff
Lucius,
http://www.stealth316.com/- -----
Original Message -----
From: <
davis2005@canada.com>
To: <
Team3S@team3s.com>
Sent: Wednesday,
November 05, 2003 3:09 PM
Subject: Team3S: Speeding Ticket
Hi All! I
just got a speeding ticket 112km in an 80km
zone. How do I get out of it? Any
ideas?
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Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:06:32
-0600 (CST)
From: Geoff Mohler <
gemohler@www.speedtoys.com>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: Speeding Ticket
Tons, what are the details.
On Wed, 5
Nov 2003
davis2005@canada.com
wrote:
> Hi All! I just got a speeding ticket 112km in an 80km
>
zone. How do I get out of it? Any ideas?
>
> *** Info:
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Mercedes, Porsche, SAAB, Volvo.
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Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 18:45:46
-0700
From: "Jim Floyd" <
jim_floyd7@earthlink.net>
Subject:
RE: Team3S: Saner Front Sway Bar Install Question
Chuck,
Stay off
the loco weed. It is your GC's not the anti-sway bars making
you ride rough.
My ride didn't change at all with the stock suspension.
Jim
-
-----Original Message-----
From:
owner-team3s@team3s.com
[mailto:owner-team3s@team3s.com] On Behalf
Of Willis, Charles E.
Sent:
Tuesday, November 04, 2003 4:27 PM
To: Geoff Mohler
Cc: Mike Gerhard;
Team3S@stealth-3000gt.stSubject:
RE: Team3S: Saner Front Sway Bar Install Question
The ride on the street
is no longer comfortable. The suspension is
incredibly stiff.
It
drives fine, just rides rotten.
Chuck Willis
- -----Original
Message-----
From: Geoff Mohler [mailto:gemohler@www.speedtoys.com]
Sent:
Tuesday, November 04, 2003 5:15 PM
To: Willis, Charles E.
Cc: Mike
Gerhard;
Team3S@stealth-3000gt.stSubject:
RE: Team3S: Saner Front Sway Bar Install Question
Pardon..the sway
bars make street driving bad?
On Tue, 4 Nov 2003, Willis, Charles E.
wrote:
> I have both bars on my '94 VR4. They are very nice for
the track.
The car drives like a cart, however, on the street and
Houston streets
are lousy. You will be glad you did it for the
track.
>
> Chuck Willis
>
> BTW it's y'all not
ya'll.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mike Gerhard
[mailto:gerhard1@llnl.gov]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 4:02
PM
> To:
Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
Subject: Team3S: Saner Front Sway Bar Install Question
>
>
>
Greetings,
>
> I'm considering installing the Saner Front Sway Bar
in my '91 VR4. I
> already have installed the rear bar and recall reading
that it is
quite a
> bit of work to install the front bar (which is
one reason I opted for
the
> rear bar only at this point).
>
> I have several questions.
>
> (1) At Stealth316 the link
is broken to Eric Gross' instructions for
the
> front sway bar. I'm
wondering if anyone has the instructions.
>
> (2) I'm curious as to
what ya'll (that's Texan talk for you Chuck)
think
> about having both
sway bars. My typical driving is open tracking at
our
> beautiful road
courses in Northern California (Thunderhill and Sears
Point
> so far).
The rear sway bar had a dramatic effect on the sway.
>
> (3) The
main reason I'm considering the front sway bar at this point
is
> that
I'll be pulling my engine (I have one of the spun rod bearings
you've
> seen on the list recently) and I'm thinking that it may be a easy
task
to
> install the front sway bar with the engine out. I'm hoping
someone can
give
> me feedback on how easy they think it might be to
install with the
engine out.
>
>
--------------------------------------------------------------
> Mike
Gerhard 1991
Mitsubishi 3000GT VR4 Pearl White
>
>
> ***
Info:
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>
>
> *** Info:
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>
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orders@speedtoys.comTeam3S/3Si.org
Vendor approved brake discounter; also,
parts for Toyota, Audi, BMW,
Mercedes, Porsche, SAAB, Volvo.
Where do you buy YOUR brakes? I can
help...asking is free! :)
"If its in stock, we have
it!"
*** Info:
http://www.Team3S.com/Rules.htm
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Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2003 08:09:39
-0600
From: "Willis, Charles E." <
cewillis@TexasChildrensHospital.org>
Subject:
RE: Team3S: Saner Front Sway Bar Install Question
I've had the GC's with
stock antisway bars, and the ride is rougher with the oversize antisway bars and
the GC's. No loco weed necessary for you, Mr. Rocky Mountain
High!
Chuck
- -----Original Message-----
From: Jim Floyd
[mailto:jim_floyd7@earthlink.net]
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 7:46
PM
To: Willis, Charles E.; 'Geoff Mohler'
Cc: 'Mike Gerhard';
Team3S@stealth-3000gt.stSubject:
RE: Team3S: Saner Front Sway Bar Install Question
Chuck,
Stay
off the loco weed. It is your GC's not the anti-sway bars making
you ride
rough. My ride didn't change at all with the stock
suspension.
Jim
- -----Original Message-----
From:
owner-team3s@team3s.com
[mailto:owner-team3s@team3s.com] On Behalf
Of Willis, Charles E.
Sent:
Tuesday, November 04, 2003 4:27 PM
To: Geoff Mohler
Cc: Mike Gerhard;
Team3S@stealth-3000gt.stSubject:
RE: Team3S: Saner Front Sway Bar Install Question
The ride on the street
is no longer comfortable. The suspension is
incredibly stiff.
It
drives fine, just rides rotten.
Chuck Willis
- -----Original
Message-----
From: Geoff Mohler [mailto:gemohler@www.speedtoys.com]
Sent:
Tuesday, November 04, 2003 5:15 PM
To: Willis, Charles E.
Cc: Mike
Gerhard;
Team3S@stealth-3000gt.stSubject:
RE: Team3S: Saner Front Sway Bar Install Question
Pardon..the sway
bars make street driving bad?
On Tue, 4 Nov 2003, Willis, Charles E.
wrote:
> I have both bars on my '94 VR4. They are very nice for
the track.
The car drives like a cart, however, on the street and
Houston streets
are lousy. You will be glad you did it for the
track.
>
> Chuck Willis
>
> BTW it's y'all not
ya'll.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mike Gerhard
[mailto:gerhard1@llnl.gov]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 4:02
PM
> To:
Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
Subject: Team3S: Saner Front Sway Bar Install Question
>
>
>
Greetings,
>
> I'm considering installing the Saner Front Sway Bar
in my '91 VR4. I
> already have installed the rear bar and recall reading
that it is
quite a
> bit of work to install the front bar (which is
one reason I opted for
the
> rear bar only at this point).
>
> I have several questions.
>
> (1) At Stealth316 the link
is broken to Eric Gross' instructions for
the
> front sway bar. I'm
wondering if anyone has the instructions.
>
> (2) I'm curious as to
what ya'll (that's Texan talk for you Chuck)
think
> about having both
sway bars. My typical driving is open tracking at
our
> beautiful road
courses in Northern California (Thunderhill and Sears
Point
> so far).
The rear sway bar had a dramatic effect on the sway.
>
> (3) The
main reason I'm considering the front sway bar at this point
is
> that
I'll be pulling my engine (I have one of the spun rod bearings
you've
> seen on the list recently) and I'm thinking that it may be a easy
task
to
> install the front sway bar with the engine out. I'm hoping
someone can
give
> me feedback on how easy they think it might be to
install with the
engine out.
>
>
--------------------------------------------------------------
> Mike
Gerhard 1991
Mitsubishi 3000GT VR4 Pearl White
>
>
> ***
Info:
http://www.Team3S.com/Rules.htm
***
>
>
> *** Info:
http://www.Team3S.com/Rules.htm
***
>
- ---
www.SpeedToys.com: Geoff Mohler
orders@speedtoys.comTeam3S/3Si.org
Vendor approved brake discounter; also,
parts for Toyota, Audi, BMW,
Mercedes, Porsche, SAAB, Volvo.
Where do you buy YOUR brakes? I can
help...asking is free! :)
"If its in stock, we have
it!"
*** Info:
http://www.Team3S.com/Rules.htm
***
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Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2003 11:12:48
-0600
From: "William J. Crabtree" <
wjcrabtree@earthlink.net>
Subject:
Team3S: Full gasket set
I'm looking for a good price on a full gasket set
for a '91 TT, Part number
MD997670 (according to CAPS). Anybody got any
sugesstions? Rockville list
it online for $294.xx is this a good deal
or should I keep shopping?
Anybody got any suggestions on where else to
look?
- -Jeff Crabtree
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Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2003 09:52:12
-0800
From: "Geddes, Brian J" <
brian.j.geddes@intel.com>
Subject:
RE: Team3S: Full gasket set
I recently called Norco to purchase a full
gasket set, but we found
after punching through some numbers that it's almost
$100 cheaper to buy
a head rebuild gasket set, and then buy the extra gaskets
needed for the
bottom end separately. Talk to Dave at Norco - that's
who added up the
number for me.
- - Brian Geddes
-
-----Original Message-----
From:
owner-team3s@team3s.com
[mailto:owner-team3s@team3s.com] On Behalf
Of William J. Crabtree
Sent:
Thursday, November 06, 2003 9:13 AM
To: Team3S
Subject: Team3S: Full
gasket set
I'm looking for a good price on a full gasket set for a
'91 TT, Part
number
MD997670 (according to CAPS). Anybody got any
sugesstions? Rockville
list
it online for $294.xx is this a good
deal or should I keep shopping?
Anybody got any suggestions on where else to
look?
- -Jeff Crabtree
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Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2003 15:36:25
-0500
From:
alchu@nyc.rr.comSubject: Team3S: Advice
on buying a used 3000GT SL...
Hi All,
I'm considering buying a
used '96 3000GT SL, and it'd be great to hear any opinions or advice you might
have for me - what to look out for, etc. I personally emailed Bob Forrest about
this, and he gave me a few helpful tips in what to look out for, but he also
encouraged me to send out an email to the entire list, so here
goes...
'96 SL
panama green
112k miles
timing belt and water
pump replaced at 68k miles, 4 years ago when this
current owner bought the
car.
earlier this year replaced tires and brakes.
mechnically/cosmetically
car in "excellent condition"
asking: $5000
Aside from the 120k
tunenup, is there anything I should be looking out for? I've never owned a 3kGT
so I'm a bit nervous in terms of what to watch out for in a used car...
especially a car like this one.
As for the 120k tuneup, I was looking at
www.groundzeroperformance.com
for reference, and they have listed 3 stages of tuneups - basic, intermediate
and deluxe. I'm assuming I'd need at least the intermediate tuneup... or is it
time for something like the deluxe? here's the sample parts lists for each
tuneup kit:
basic: Timing belt, water pump, timing belt tensioner,
tensioner pulley, and idler pulley. $305
intermediate: above plus:
thermostat, accessory belt, power steering belt, spark plugs, spark plug wires,
fuel filter, and oil filter. $505
deluxe: above plus: oil pump, related
oil pump gaskets, and a new oil pickup tube $700
Prices listed are for
parts, not labor, of course...
Thanks in
advance,
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