Team3S: 3000GT & Stealth Sunday, October 12
2003 Volume 02 : Number 273
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I think the Stillen downpipe is the best single performance improvement
you
can do. It removes the front precat and the main cat. To get it on,
align
the rear downpipe first, put one nut on, then put a floor jack under
the
front part of the pipe and raiser 'er up. It is a very tight fit, but
it
goes on.
While you are installing it, take a 1-in. wood drill bit and a great
big
drill, and gut the rear cat.
With all the cats gone, the turbos spool up very fast.
I matched that with a custom 3-in catback (single side) to a
Xlerator
straight through muffler, all fabbed up by my local muffler
shop for less
than $200. Beats the snot out of a $600 Borla.
Sounds good, runs good. LOUD!
That's all the tips I got for the moment.
Rich/slow old poop
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Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2003 17:51:08 -0500
From: "xwing" <
xwing@wi.rr.com>
Subject: Team3S: Road
America and 1st 3 mods I like
So Rich, your car is running now right? Coming to Road America with
Phil
and I??
Get some brake pads and Go!
I think my car might run ok finally, if I
can get it to go into 3rd and 5th
gear...might have solved that
today.
Jack T.
ps I always think the bleeder valve boost controller is the cheapest
and
first mod for our cars, best bang for the buck by far. Exhaust and
main cat
removal number 2. Airfilter so it looks nice and is cheap
3.
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At 05:51 PM 10/11/2003 -0500, xwing wrote:
>So Rich, your car is
running now right? Coming to Road America with Phil
>and I?? Get
some brake pads and Go!
Nah, the tranny still leaks. Pretty bad, too. It leaves puddles. We
finally
narrowed it down to the output shaft seal (after taking everything
off the
passenger side of the engine so we could see the top of the tranny to
make
sure it wasn't blowing out the vents, and twice taking out the
transfer
case to inspect the output shaft), so I'll see what Kormex says on
Monday.
My car runs strong, so it woulda been interesting up at RA. It's seems
a
little faster than before with the rear cat gutted and all the
intercooler
hoses and vacuum lines tightened up. It's certainly louder,
that's fer sure.
>I think my car might run ok finally, if I can get it to go into 3rd and
5th
>gear...might have solved that today.
Not something as simple as the lower radiator hose blocking the linkage,
I
take it? I couldn't get my new tranny into 4th or 6th until we realized
we
had installed the lower hose backwards, and it was blocking the
linkage.
Got enough in your car to take care of a certain mean ol' Z06? Jon
is
going up there to spectate, and he'll point out Big Bad Brian's Z06. I
want
you make a point of blowing his doors off, if you can. I will rub it in
to
Brian unmercifully if you do.
I don't expect you to get Beluga, the great white whale Camaro
but it will be sweet if you do. Big Bad Brian would have to live with
the
fact that a RICER beat his Z06 AND his Camaro. He'll spend the
winter
investing huge amounts of money to make sure it doesn't happen again,
but
Jon and I and the Stealth Boys will never let him forget it.
Good hunting.
Rich/slow old poop
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Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2003 19:22:16 -0400
From: "Joseph Spainhour" <
spainhou@bellsouth.net>
Subject:
Team3S: OT 3M double sided tape
Hello all,
Does anyone know of a good way to remove 3m double sided tape, aside
from
scraping it?
Joseph
93 3KGT VR-4
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Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2003 19:30:44 -0400
From: "The Furmans" <
L.Furman1@cox.net>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: Guidance from the ground up
Scott IMHO get the ATR it is ALOT lighter (like almost 6lbs) that
the
Stillen, fitment is less of a headache due to the fact that
the
flanges rotate and you have the option of getting it set up
with
provisions to swap in a highflow cat when you have to put the
car
through emissions. The test pipe and precat are interchangeable
via
slip fittings, as for exhaust have a local place fab something up
for
you it will be at least 50 bucks cheaper than the borla and will
flow
better (more on that statement a little later in this post).
Now onto the my bone of contention with the borla, it runs 3" from
the
cat back splits into dual 2.5" piping but inside the damn canisters
it
drops down to 2" WTF........
Get a boost controller that has overboost protection because on
stock
injectos and fuel pump you have a high likely hood of overboosting
and
hurting your engine (been there done that, got three cast ashtrays
to
prove it)
Once the BPU power upgrades are done I would highly recommend
upgrading
your brakes and suspension. Brakes just go to speedtoys.com
and get the
complete Porterfield package inclusing SS lines you will
not be
disappointed
Suspension is a whole another issue and we will cross that bridge
when
you wallet permits......
Russ F
CT
93 VR-4 DR-650's and supporting mods
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Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2003 19:33:16 -0400
From: "The Furmans" <
L.Furman1@cox.net>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: OT 3M double sided tape
Yeah joe get this stuff called goo gone it will dissolve and is
supposed
to be harmless to paint, read the bottle to confirm this
though.
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We've had the Stillen downpipe off three times in the past week (working
on
the tranny), so my buddy Jon and I are getting good at it. It's not
that
big a deal, once you learn the secret (back pipe on first, then use a
floor
jack to lift the front up).
As for emissions, I have the entire stock exhaust sitting in my garage.
If
emission testing ever comes to Iowa, I can just swap the stock
downpipe
back in, thus putting my front pre cat and the main cat back in.
No
problem, we can do it on jackstands in about 30 minutes.
If the ATR is a lot lighter, I wonder where they skimped on materials
to
get 6 lb? Maybe it will rot out in a year.
Love my Stillen. They make crappy brakes, but their downpipe rocks.
Rich
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Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2003 21:42:18 -0700
From: "Bob Forrest" <
bf@bobforrest.com>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: Harbor Freight Jack question
Sounds like you might have a lemon. Ours seems OK - smooth and solid,
so far.
Both ET and Nissa - females of the 130# variety - have had no
problem
repeatedly changing tires on the VR-4, Stealth, and Miata. That
includes
lifting up the whole front of the VR-4. I must admit that I
thought it felt a
*little* harder than it should be when I've lifted the
front a couple of
times... But I 'favor' my (bad) back a bit when
bending, so I'm not a typical
"healthy young racer" kind of user. I had
to lean into it a bit, IIRC, but it
didn't seem unusual at the time.
All in all, I'm pretty happy with mine -
it's one handy, portable tool.
Maybe the price was so low because Harbor
Freight had an unusually high
return rate on these jacks(?)... Perhaps we
just got lucky with
ours.
- ---Forrest
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Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2003 14:15:58 -0400
From: "The Furmans" <
L.Furman1@cox.net>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: Guidance from the ground up
Rich the ATR is 304 Stainless so it rotting away isnt a concern, I
have
had my ATR on my car about 2 years now and even when it has faced
good ol CT
winters it hasnt even begun to think about rusting
(although the factory
mounting bolts and nuts decided to.....)
The weight savings probably comes in from the fact that piping
wall
thickness is visually thinner that what the stillen is and the fact
it
doesnt have a 18" long SS braided flex section occupying a
large
portion of the main pipe to the exhaust. I am not concerned
about
breaking the D/P because I have the 3SX Poly mounts so my motor
doesnt
even have the option of thinking about moving around, although the
GF
asked why my car now felt like my bike ;)
Russ F
CT
DR650's and supporting mods
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Somebody, somewhere posted a complaint about the ATR a couple of years
ago,
which is why I went with the Stillen. Maybe it was the lack of the
flex
section. Maybe it was the group buy that convinced me. I guess either
one
is OK.
Rich
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Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2003 00:25:06 +0200
From: "Roger Gerl" <
roger.gerl@bluewin.ch>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: Guidance from the ground up
The ATR doesn't rust at all, it's even better in quality than the stillen
as
it rusts where the flex section connects the piping. It's very heavy too.
I
have placed a flex section into the tubing to the front turbo.
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