Team3S: 3000GT & Stealth    Thursday, July 10 2003    Volume 02 : Number 201
 
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Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2003 13:36:04 -0400
From: "anthonymelillo" <anthonymelillo@sprintmail.com>
Subject: Team3S: parts for sale
 
Sorry for not posting this sooner, but I had brain fade.
 
I have two valve covers for sale on eBay, and some misc engine brackets that I haven't listed yet.  I don't know what most of the brackets are, as I won them as a package on an auction to get some other parts I needed.  I will build a quick web page hopefully later today.
 
The two calve covers are from my 1997 VR-4 and the front one is highly polished. But both of them are extremely clean inside and out.  I would prefer that they go to a good home.
 
Front rocker cover http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2422640267&ssPageName=ADME:L:DS:US:8
 
Rear rocker cover http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2422640857&ssPageName=ADME:L:DS:US:8
 
Anthony Melillo
1997 VR-4, Firestorm Red http://home.sprintmail.com/~anthonymelillo/3000gt.htm
 
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Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2003 15:57:39 -0500
From: "Wieschhaus, Brandon Kenneth (UMR-Student)" <bwish@umr.edu>
Subject: Team3S: NG03
 
So which Hooters is this car show at? I didn't register for anything because I just plan on showing up for the carshow, but there's more than one Hooters in STL. So who knows which one? And I can still come and park without "registering" can't I? Jeff Crabby, you know?
    -b
 
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Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2003 16:37:08 -0700 (PDT)
From: g2write@newsguy.com
Subject: Team3S: car running slow
 
The same thing happened to me a few months ago.  Turns out they forgot to hook up a vacuum hose.  I'd check those first and if you don't find anything take it back to the guy that worked on it and have him look it over.  Chances are it's something small he over looked.
  Gary
 
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Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2003 16:45:06 -0700 (PDT)
From: g2write@newsguy.com
Subject: Team3S: parts for sale: '92 RT stealth (non turbo)
 
Parting out a '92 stealth.  Engine runs good, 140,000 miles, Have video of engine idling and revving up.  Front clip is damaged but every thing else is for sale.  Make me an offer.  The wife wants it out of the yard so I'm selling things cheap!  Gary
PS. e-mail me back at G2WRITE@yahoo.com     My newsguy account has too many
emails to sift through.
 
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Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2003 16:49:39 -0700 (PDT)
From: g2write@newsguy.com
Subject: Team3S: foggy windshield
 
I Have a '92 3000gt.  I'm getting a film on the inside of the windshield.  I thought it was only when the heaters were on but I think it happens when the air conditioning is on also.  Is my heater core going south?  Are they hard to change?  Or could it be something else?
  Gary
 
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Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2003 17:01:32 -0500 (CDT)
From: William Crabtree <wjcrabtree@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S: foggy windshield
 
Assuming the you don't smoke in your car, it's likely a phenomenon called "outgassing" from the plastics that your dashboard and other parts of your interior are made of.  Also, if you "armor all" your dash or interior, that stuff has to go somewhere when it evaporates and or dries up. 
 
Try using a good quality glass cleaner.
 
- -Jeff C.
 
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Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2003 18:04:16 -0600
From: Greg Gonzales <stealth@fitnessolutions.com>
Subject: Team3S: Help! New Problem, now its the idle.. 92 RT TT 69k miles
 
Two weeks ago this Friday I took my car to the dealer, they replaced the
fuel filter. The car ran fine until  Tuesday of last week. Then the
battery died. I replaced it and the car again ran fine. I took a trip to
Denver and back (Albuquerque) and the car ran like a champ. 26-28mpg at
80-90mph. As I was coming home today I stopped to put gas...then the
trouble begins...I put gas, ate in the Wendy's,.. ohh and saw Tony Hawk
and his skate crew for those skate fans, they are on a skate tour. When
we finished eating I started the car, started fine, began the trip
again. We soon had to decelerate,  as I decelerated I could feel the car
lurching, like the idle was revving up and down, the tach didn't show
this. We had to come to almost a complete stop and the car almost died.
I was still 250-300 miles away from home in the middle of nowhere. I
drove the rest here and again as we approached the lights, the car died
and started on its own several times, i.e. went down to 0 rpm back up to
800-1k rpm. I then used the clutch and gas to keep it alive to get it
home. Again it would run ok when I was either going a constant speed, or
I was accelerating, but when I decelerated the car again lurched.
 
I am taking it back to the dealer tomorrow to see what they say. Any and
all advice, minus I shouldn't have taken it to the dealer :-), is
appreciated. I do know better now.
 
The car has had its 60k service, approx. 3-4 months ago, from the same
dealer, ran fine since then.
 
Greg  Gonzales
92 RT TT
 
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Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2003 17:34:45 -0700
From: "Gross, Erik" <erik.gross@intel.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Help! New Problem, now its the idle.. 92 RT TT 69k miles
 
Hi Greg,
 Does the car only have problems when decelerating, or does it have problems idling as well? 
 That sounds a lot like the ISC/IAC motor getting dirty or going bad.  The dealer will likely want to replace the motor for some ridiculous sum of money.  The ISC motor is pretty easy to remove and inspect.  There are electrical tests in the manual.  Once it's out you can clean it and the idle air passage and see if it works.  If it's electrically ok, it's likely that there's dirt/oil on the valve itself or the idle air passage.
 The fact that the tach didn't show any of the lurching you talked about may be another issue, or could be an indicator the lurching/dying is something besides your ISC motor.  Have you replaced the capacitors in your ECU?  If you haven't, check for a "fishy" smell near or inside your ECU case.  Bad/going ECUs can cause all kinds of odd symptoms.
 
- --Erik
'95 VR-4  www.team3s.com/~egross
 
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Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2003 18:43:16 -0600
From: Greg Gonzales <stealth@fitnessolutions.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Help! New Problem, now its the idle.. 92 RT TT 69k miles
 
It has problems with both. When decelerating it feels as though the only
thing that keeps it alive it the engine turning, when I pressed the
clutch in it wanted to die, even though I was doing 70. So when I let it
back out the car again began to lurch with slight gas pedal pressure,
under no pressure on the gas pedal it would decelerate normally somewhat. I think that because it does not want to idle when I am stopped it does
the same thing when I am driving and the only thing that keeps it going
is my stepping on the gas pedal.
 
Greg Gonzales 92 RT TT
 
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Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2003 20:48:45 -0400
From: Jim Smith <jhsmith@erols.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Help! New Problem, now its the idle.. 92 RT TT 69k miles
 
Sound to me like it could be a fuel filter.
When you let off the gas and press the clutch in, what does your tach
show?  Sounds like the engine is starving for gas!
 
Just my opinion!
Jim Smith
- --
Blaming the gun for murder, is like blaming the car for hit and run!
 
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Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2003 18:03:24 -0700
From: "Gross, Erik" <erik.gross@intel.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Help! New Problem, now its the idle.. 92 RT TT 69k miles
 
Greg,
 Since your engine essentially shuts off when you engine-brake (decelerate with no throttle and RPM over a certain level), you should not see ISC symptoms when decelerating without pressing the accelerator or clutch.  You're right about the engine being kept alive by the driveline turning it while engine braking - under those conditions, your fuel injectors are completely off and there are no combustion events.
 When you push the clutch in while traveling at speed, you are not engine-braking anymore - as far as the engine is concerned, it's pretty much the same as if you were stopped and idling in neutral or with the clutch disengaged. 
 Based on your second post, I'm very inclined to suspect the ISC motor at this point.  ECU caps would be my second guess.  From there, it could be a number of sensors that control the idle behavior.
 
- --Erik
'95 VR-4  www.team3s.com/~egross
 
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Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2003 18:47:55 -0700 (PDT)
From: dawahl@newsguy.com
Subject: Team3S: Is the clutch adjustable?
 
I have a 94 3000GT SL, and I think there is something wrong with the clutch.
Every time I need to put it into first from a stop, I have to shift from second to first.  If I don't do that, and go strait into first, it makes a really loud grinding sound.  The same noise occurs if I am punching the gas and shift from second to third.  Someone told me that I wasn't pressing the clutch all the way in, so I tried putting all my weight on the clutch.  I had the petal down as far as it could possibly go.  When I do that, it still grinds into first (most of the time not even allowing me into the gear), but it works fine from second to third.  Does anyone know what I might need to do? Is the clutch adjustable so I don't have to put all my weight on the clutch to switch gears?  Let me know.
 
Thanks,
 
Dan Wahl
Lcpl/USMC
 
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Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 08:21:41 -0400
From: Bill Ma <BillMa@FLAGCOMM.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Help! New Problem, now its the idle.. 92 RT TT 69k mi les
 
How's your battery? My car did something similar, stall when coming to a stop or starting off, and it ended up being my battery, even though the car started fine.
 
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Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 11:45:57 -0500
From: "Steve" <denon11@insightbb.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Help! New Problem, now its the idle.. 92 RT TT 69k miles
 
Check your idle control motor located on the drivers side next to the motor mount.
 
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Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 10:05:53 -0700
From: "Gross, Erik" <erik.gross@intel.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Help! New Problem, now its the idle.. 92 RT TT 69k miles
 
The idle control motor (IAC/ISC motor) is located on the passenger's side of the engine, on the lower part of the throttle body.
 
Perhaps Steve was referring to the cruise control box near the driver's side motor mount?  I'm not aware of any idle-related components near that location.
 
- --Erik
'95 VR-4  www.team3s.com/~egross
 
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Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 13:36:07 -0400
From: "anthonymelillo" <anthonymelillo@sprintmail.com>
Subject: Team3S: misc parts for sale
 
Here is the web page for the misc brackets and whatever that I have.   Please email me directly if interested.
Parts are available really cheap. http://home.sprintmail.com/~anthonymelillo/misc_parts.htm
 
Thanks all
Anthony Melillo
1997 VR-4, Firestorm Red http://home.sprintmail.com/~anthonymelillo/3000gt.htm
 
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Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 15:45:46 -0400
From: Bill Ma <BillMa@FLAGCOMM.com>
Subject: Team3S: Custom MAF to turbo inlet silicone hose
 
Hey list.
 
I was thinking about getting some custom silicon hose produced to replace the entire section that goes between the MAF and turbo inlets. It would be larger in diameter than stock and have swappable ends for different size turbo inlets. The manufacturer for this would be Samco.
 
I just wanted to gauge the interest for something like this on the board and see if I should go ahead with the R & D to get this done.
 
Thanks
 
Bill
Visions Of Speed
http://visionsofspeed.net
 
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