Team3S: 3000GT & Stealth    Wednesday, July 2 2003    Volume 02 : Number 194
 
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Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2003 11:14:04 -0500
From: "John Monnin" <john.monnin@3si.zzn.com>
Subject: Team3S: Anyone Burn seals out of brake pistons, & Acell coils and spark blowout
 
Anyone burn the piston dust shields and seals off of brake calipers?
 
Jeremy Gleason and I took an all day High Speed Drivers Education
Class at Gingerman Raceway.
He got his brakes so hot that the seals burned off of the brake
caliper pistons and brake fluid started leaking out around the
pistons.  He bought a caliper rebuild kit but I doubt that it
includes the pistons since it only cost $30 from Tallahassee.
 
What are the odds that the pistons are trashed too?
 
Long story below:
Jeremy was trying to take it easy because he was running Stillen
Metal Matrix pads.  Towards the end of the day he had used up all of
the friction compound and they had gotten hot enough to melt the dust
boots off of the brake pistons.  I gave Jeremy my used set of R4 pads
and we hit the track.  But this time I deliberately lined up behind
him so we could compare our track speeds.   I followed Jeremy closely
for 5-10 minutes with no problems it was the end of the day so I was
braking harder than I normally do.  My car had developed a nasty
spark blowout (even with Acell coils) at boost over 10psi.  I was
driving slower on the straights but I was braking later and carrying
more speed through the corners so we were evenly matched.   Jeremy
let me pass and I lost him after 2 laps.  I thought I had out drove
him until I got the pits and there was a crowd around his smoking
car.  
 
Jeremy pulled the driver's wheel off and brake fluid was leaking out
of the caliper.  It was so hot the brake fluid smoked when it was
falling through the air.   The seals on the caliper pistons  had
melted and the brake fluid was leaking out  around the piston.   My
car had gotten so hot that My brake fluid had overflowed the master
cylinder but otherwise my brake look fine.  The biggest difference
between our cars is that I had removed my front dust shields. 
Removing the dust shields really helps to cool the brakes but It
looks like I really need to make some cooling ducts too.
 
Now we are both scrambling to get our cars running for NG03, last
year I don't think either one of us had enough time to clean our cars
ahead of time  last year and it looks like this year will be just as
badƒ¼
 
My spark blow out problem REALLY ticked me off.   I just put Accell
coils in and the car has been running better, I pulled my front 3
plugs (coppers gapped to .035) and they looked great.  SO I am now
going to pull the rear plugs and inspect them and gap them down
to .032 if there is not damage.  Something else I noticed. Acell
coils get REALLY hot compared to stock coils.  Overall I am not
impressed with them. They are ugly (it is impossible to keep the flat
yellow clean) they are bigger (they hit my radiator hose) and they
did not let me run any more gap than stock.   Why did I bother?
 
I did the GM coil conversion myself per Al Bautista's webpage. Anybody have a positive experience with Acell coils?
 
3SI STUFF!  http://www.3si.org/pages/catalog.html
 
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Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2003 16:22:46 -0000
From: "Jeff Lucius" <jlucius@stealth316.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Install Air/Fuel Meter(s)?
 
>> but where do I connect the wire(s) to the o2 sensor?
 
I prefer to tap the wires at the ECU harness connector, as shown on my web page below.
 
http://www.stealth316.com/2-arm1instal.htm
 
Jeff Lucius, http://www.stealth316.com/
 
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Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2003 11:39:25 -0500
From: "Willis, Charles E." <cewillis@TexasChildrensHospital.org>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Anyone Burn seals out of brake pistons, & Acell coils and spark blowout
 
been there done it got the t-shirt, although it was 1st gen rear brake calipers both sides
 
pistons are likely still good.  when you rebuild the calipers you can clean them nicely with scotch brite pads.
 
have you taken the dust shields off the hubs yet?  have you replaced the splash guard extensions with hardware cloth?
 
Chuck Willis
 
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Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2003 10:12:53 -0700
From: "Gross, Erik" <erik.gross@intel.com>
Subject: Team3S: MSD Ignition Coils  WAS: Acell coils and spark blowout
 
John Monnin wrote:
> My spark blow out problem REALLY ticked me off.   I just put Accell
> coils in and the car has been running better, I pulled my front 3
> plugs (coppers gapped to .035) and they looked great.  SO I am now
> going to pull the rear plugs and inspect them and gap them down to
> .032 if there is not damage.  Something else I noticed. Acell coils
> get REALLY hot compared to stock coils.  Overall I am not impressed
> with them. They are ugly (it is impossible to keep the flat yellow
> clean) they are bigger (they hit my radiator hose) and they
> did not let me run any more gap than stock.   Why did I bother?
 
Another option to consider is the MSD coils (P/N 8224).  I recently installed them on my VR-4 and helped with Mike Elliot's installation as well.  Both cars showed significant improvements after the installation. 
 
Mike went from getting nasty blowout at anything over 12psi with 0.032" (or maybe 0.034") gap on OEM *platinum* plugs to running 0.041" gaps with no blowout whatsoever.
 
I went from running 0.039" (stock NGK plugs) with mild blowout over 14psi on cold days with water injection turned on to no blowout running up to 15.5psi with water injection on cold days, still with the 0.039" gap.
 
I did the installation almost the same as Al's installation (reusing the stock bracket), except that I mounted them higher to clear the radiator hose and I made an aluminum backing plate to hold the coils more securely.  Also, I coated the flat-red coil packs with Griot's Garage Engine Gloss (protective coating for plastics that repels dirt) before installation and they are still bright red after several weeks and my poking around the engine bay last weekend.
 
I have pictures from the installation, but no web page yet (working on it).  I can throw the pics on my website if anyone wants them - e-mail me privately if so.
 
- --Erik
'95 VR-4  www.team3s.com/~egross
 
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Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2003 10:32:05 -0600 (MDT)
From: Jim Floyd <jim_floyd7@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S: MSD Ignition Coils  WAS: Acell coils and spark blowout
 
Will you be selling these as a kit ?
 
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Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2003 17:49:54 -0000
From: Kopsick Michael J Contr WRALC/LJET <Michael.Kopsick@robins.af.mil>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Door locks gone crazy! HELP ASAP
 
Does anyone know how to fix this?  Thought this list was of experts...haha seriously I need help on this one!
 
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Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2003 12:02:50 -0600
From: "Curtis McConnell" <Curtis.McConnell@pulte.com>
Subject: Team3S: Not holding boost/missing in low gears.
 
I have a Vr-4 Spyder with the mods listed below. Since I've gotten the 15g's the car isn't holding boost. It will hit 1.00 kg/cm2 and drop to around 0.93 kg/cm2 by redline. In first gear it will stutter a little when the boost hits 1.00. I have done pressure testing and no leaks, I have done learning mode 3 times and reset the ECU.
 
Anyone have the EVC IV with the same issue? Help please, I want the car running right when I go to St. Louis.
 
Curtis McConnell
1995 VR-4 Spyder
Intake
Full exhaust, no cats
TEC ported 15g's
EVC IV
Krankvents
Blocked EGR
 
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Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2003 13:53:48 -0500
From: "Willis, Charles E." <cewillis@TexasChildrensHospital.org>
Subject: Team3S: misfiring ...
 
Dear friends,
 
93VR4 113K miles
spark plugs changed about 1000 miles ago
don't think I changed the fuel filter 'cause there's a new one in the garage 60K maintenance done on time idles just fine revs fine with clutch pedal in as soon as you start to accelerate under load, when boost gauge reads 10mmHg vacuum, starts missing no obvious intake or vacuum leaks no overheating oil pressure seems fine oil level normal
 
Where to start looking?
 
My first thought was to disconnect the battery for 10 seconds and let the ECU try to make a new fuel map. Second thought was to go ahead with the 120K maintenance and see if the timing belt has slipped. Third thought was a compression check. Fourth thought was to check the ignition coils.  The ECU was replaced last year.
 
Chuck Willis
 
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Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2003 11:58:06 -0700
From: "Gross, Erik" <erik.gross@intel.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: MSD Ignition Coils  WAS: Acell coils and spark blowout
 
By popular request, you can find my pictures here:
 
http://www.team3s.com/~egross/Temp/coils
 
Note that this is a temporary page until I have time to do the writeup, so if you're looking at this in the archives a few months from now, it may not be at the above URL.
 
As for whether I will be selling this as a kit, at this point, no.  I'll provide my web page with detailed instructions on how to do it, but, at least if you want to use the stock bracket, there is a bit of custom work to do.
 
Now if I got Bob or someone else to CNC me a complete bracket....  but then it wouldn't be the super-cheap ($150) coil upgrade anymore :-)
 
- --Erik
 
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Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2003 14:08:54 -0500
From: "Lim, Yong H  SPC" <yong.lim@sill.army.mil>
Subject: Team3S: Question about timing belt...(urgent)
 
Ok, before I say anything, my car is 93 3kgt vr4(I always seem to forget to say this...)
 
(*just skim through please*)
Right now, I have my car in a local shop because the timing belt that I replaced from there came off only a week after installation.  The mechanic there checked it again and told me that the timing belt(new one) was bad. He was basically saying the new timing belt wasn't elastic at all and he showed me this by folding the tip of both old and new ones in half.  Sure enough, the new one folded completely in half touching each other while the old one formed a oval.  I don't know anything about the timing belt so I said ok and told him that I will get a different one since the new one I got
wasn't OEM.   
I ordered my new one from Tallahassee mitsu dealer but due to my bad luck I guess, the thing didn't ship for almost two weeks and even worse, I got the wrong part to boot.  I got real mad and called mitsupartsdirect and ordered timing belt with next day service. 
Today, I got it and gave it to the mechanic this morning.  I checked his shop again this afternoon and he's telling me the same thing with this new OEM belt that he told me with the last one.  He's saying that it's not elastic at all and he's suggesting me now that he would rather want to put an old one. 
 
Question:  What is the initial condition of timing belt?  Is it suppose to be elastic or is it suppose to be loose? 
 
The new OEM belt I got from mitsupartdirect is definitely loose as it touch each other completely when you try to fold in half near the tip of the belt.
 
Any help would be appreciated....thanks
 
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Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2003 15:04:14 -0500
From: "merritt@cedar-rapids.net" <merritt@cedar-rapids.net>
Subject: Team3S: Blew tranny, I think
 
It sounds like I blew the tranny, but all opinions are welcome.
 
First of all, I wasn't doin' nuttin. Just a brisk drive through the countryside. The problem may have started two weeks ago at the Corvette Club autocross, when I missed 3rd on the 2-3 upshift. I fished around, trying to find a gear, and finally got it into 5th. I never missed a shift before, and wondered why that one went sour.
 
Anyway, today it popped out of 2nd, then popped out of 6th, then started whining, then started vibrating. Power was way down on the motor. It felt like something was holding it back.
 
I drove it home slowly, and, as I turned into my driveway it popped out of 1st. I fried the clutch getting it up the hill into my garage in 3rd. It seems like I have 3rd, 4th, and 5th but that's all. Lotsa smoke and fried clutch smell came from under the right side of the motor.
 
The tranny has been leaking fluid for years, ever since Mitsu replaced it under warranty three years ago. The new tranny started leaking immediately, and really blows fluid out when I race. I get the fluid topped off on a fairly regular basis, but have neglected it lately. I suspect it's bone dry.
 
I assume that it's shot, and will need a replacement from Kormex or whatever.
 
Any chance that it's salvageable? You know, like just add some fluid?
 
Is it possible that it's the clutch?
How do you tell?
 
Before I take any drastic steps -- such as order a tranny or start taking the car apart -- any suggestions? Driving it is probably out of the question.
 
Since the money tree in the backyard stopped blooming, I may try to fix this myself. Who has tranny replacement instructions on a web site?
 
Rich/really slow old poop/94 VR4
 
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Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2003 15:38:38 -0500
From: "Nick McDermott" <eire1274@cox.net>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Blew tranny, I think
 
Jeff Lucius posted this link in reference to something else entirely the other day, but it's proven very valuable to me (installing new clutch and trans and front driveshafts): http://www.stealth316.com/2-trany.htm
 
I'm using it mostly for reassembly instructions, but the removal instructions look good, too.  HAVE A SECOND PERSON WITH SOME MECHANICAL SKILLS HANDY.  I TRIED IT ALONE with no success.
 
Nick
 
93 VR-4
 
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Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2003 20:57:04 -0000
From: "Jeff Lucius" <jlucius@stealth316.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Not holding boost/missing in low gears.
 
Curtis,
 
There is too much missing info here to really say what the problem might be.
 
Are you still using the stock fuel system? If not, what injectors and fuel pump are you using, and what is the voltage at the pump? What airflow signal conditioner are you using (S-AFC, AFR, ARC2, GM MAF-T, VPC)?
 
What ignition mods? Have you gapped down the plugs? What kind of plugs (manufacturer, electrode metal, heat range)? Have you looked at plugs to check for detonation?
 
What intake? Just a filter upgrade? Stock MAS still used?
 
Is the EBC plumbed correctly? To see if the EBC is the problem just pinch (clamp) or cap the hose(s) that go to the wastegate actuators (clamp the one coming off the Y-pipe). This way they should never open. Use your right foot to control boost level. How high does it go (may want to stop at 1 kg/cm2 at high RPM - less if using stock fuel system)?
 
The bottom line is the EBC and intake hoses/tubes may be fine. But if you can't make the power (lack of fuel, lack of spark, excessive timing retard from detonation, airflow-related fuel cut) then you can't make the boost either.
 
Jeff Lucius, http://www.stealth316.com/
 
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Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2003 15:37:30 -0600
From: "Curtis McConnell" <Curtis.McConnell@pulte.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Not holding boost/missing in low gears.
 
I am running the stock fuel system, stock MAS. The gap is down to .032 on the same heat range NGK copper plugs (Pete P. gave me the model # but I don't have it on me) Stock ignition.
 
I shortened the vacuum lines so I am positive there is no kink. All of the lines are 5" at the longest.
 
Curtis McConnell
1995 Vr-4 Spyder
 
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Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2003 15:38:16 -0700
From: "Tyson Varosyan" <tigran@tigran.com>
Subject: Team3S: Need emergency advice on cams!
 
Hi guys.
 
I don't know if any of you have been following my saga of the engine rebuild. It is the all too common timing belt, bent valves, dinged pistons and a multi-thousand dollar rebuild caused in this case by the timing cover gasket getting into the timing belt...
 
Anyhow, here is what I need. Per Matt Monet of Dynamic Racing I decided to put NA DOHC exhaust cams into my VR4. This moves the power torque up in the RPM range and gives more power in the latter areas of the RPM range, which is where I tend to hang when I race. I ordered my cams last winter from some guy, they came in all pretty and sat in the box till now. I have EVERYTHING else lined up, FINALLY, and am ready to put the car back together when to my horror I discover that I was mailed a front exhaust cam and a rear INTAKE cam!!
 
Not wanting to wait another two+ weeks for the shipping, that's assuming he even still has the cam I need I asked the local guys about whom might have some spare cams. One guy does! However, there is a snag. My car is a '92 with the adjustable CAS, his cams are a '93 with the non-adjustable CAS. As we all know the intake cams are different, however what I would like to know is whether the exhaust cams on the '91-92 and the '93+ NA DOHC are the same. This would be a total rescue of my project. Anyone with solid info on this, please speak up.
 
Thanks,
 
Tyson
 
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Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2003 22:19:26 -0700
From: "Paul T Kempkes" <fretless@twcny.rr.com>
Subject: Team3S: Fw: '94 Stealth tt stereo mods
 
Friends
 
I'd like to add a subwoofer amp to my Stealth.  Plan A is to tap into the amp that is under the passenger seat for the low level signal and power. The Infinity amp, though, has a six poles round plug for the line level input.  It looks like a MIDI or PS/2 plug, but the poles don't line up the same way.  Splicing in with wire cutters seems like a PIA.  (Power seems easy enough.)  I'm therefore looking for a "y" connector that splits the line out signal from the head unit right before it connects to the amp.   Female
at the single end, male at the twin end.  Any ideas?  I'd like to avoid using the speaker level outs for a cleaner sound. Drive Fast, Take Chances, Paul K
 
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Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2003 19:26:32 -0700 (PDT)
From: Anthony Tse <tse1631@yahoo.com>
Subject: Team3S: EGR & EVAP question
 
Hi: I have a 92VR4 California spec. My car's Check
Engine light keep comes on every 200-500 miles. I have
to reset the ECU every 2 weeks. The car runs fine even
with the CE light on. Last week I finally check the
error code & find out it is the EGR error code. Also,
I notice the EVAP canister & the hose connect to it
are missing, it was like that when I brought the car.
At that time I didn't know what it is. The only thing
I saw is a nipple connected to nothing. I brought the
car to Mits dealer one time & they couldn't tell
what's missing.
   Here are my questions: What does the EVAP system
do? Can the missing EVAP canister make the CE light
comes on? Is the EGR a serviceable part? If so, what
can I use to clean it? I check the wires & hose are
o.k. Why the CE light comes on after couple hundred
miles, not after I reset the ECU?
    Sounds like I have so many questions. Can someone
tell me the answer or little advise what else to look
for? Thanks!               Anthony 
 
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Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2003 21:31:05 -0500
From: "merritt@cedar-rapids.net" <merritt@cedar-rapids.net>
Subject: Team3S: I wanna sue the bastards
 
My tranny blew up.
 
As I told you, it was a brand new tranny three years ago. It was replaced under my GM aftermarket warranty, and the Mitsu dealer put in a new Mitsu tranny, with a 12-month Mitsu warranty.
 
It immediately started to leak, and I complained to the Mitsu dealer. They replaced some seal, which did not solve the problem. When that didn't work, they said that was all they could do.
 
So, within the warranty period, I complained.
Within the warranty period, they attempted to fix it.
They didn't fix it, and it continued to leak.
It ran dry, and blew the trans.
 
I think I have a case for small claims court.
I want a new tranny for free.
 
What's the best course of action?
 
A strong letter to the dealer, demanding they fix it?
Go to small claims court, and demand they replace the tranny? Fix it, then take the dealer to small claims court?
 
Whaddaya think?
 
Rich/broken tranny
 
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Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2003 19:37:00 -0700 (PDT)
From: Anthony Tse <tse1631@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Not holding boost/missing in low gears.
 
Are you still using the stock BOV?
                              Anthony
 
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Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2003 21:39:58 -0500 (CDT)
From: Geoff Mohler <gemohler@www.speedtoys.com>
Subject: Team3S: Re: 3S-Racers: I wanna sue the bastards
 
You think a new tranny+labor will cost within small claims limits?
 
Sure it worth a trip to court.
 
- ---
www.SpeedToys.com: Geoff Mohler orders@speedtoys.com Team3S/3Si.org Vendor approved brake discounter; also, parts for Toyota, Audi, BMW, Mercedes, Porsche, SAAB, Volvo. Where do you buy YOUR brakes?  I can help...asking is free!  :) "If its in stock, we have it!"
 
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Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2003 22:49:21 -0400
From: "Ken Stanton" <ken.c.stanton@usa.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S: I wanna sue the bastards
 
Start at the bottom and work your way up.  keep records.  start with the dealer, then the manager, then go right to mitsu.  I wrote to Pierre Gagnon and that raised some smoke back at the dealer, got things rolling for me. BBB is always there, and I'm sure there are others.  But in the meantime, I am sorry, I hate to hear these stories.  Best of luck.
 
Ken
 
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Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2003 19:52:37 -0700
From: "fastmax" <fastmax@cox.net>
Subject: Team3S: Re: 3S-Racers: I wanna sue the bastards
 
In California the limit is $5K --- that's about what it would cost. You have to create a paper trail to support your version of the truth. Give them the info and get their response in writing if they fail to settle then you can take them to small claims.
 
        Jim Berry
 
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Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2003 01:02:58 -0400
From: "Philip V. Glazatov" <philip@supercar-engineering.com>
Subject: Team3S: Could've been a kaboom
 
First, I need help ASAP. Can't skip the NG! I need either the stock oil
cooler lines of maybe an upgraded oil cooler with lines. Does anyone have
oil cooler lines lying around? Does anyone make upgraded oil coolers with
lines?
 
I blew oil cooler line today. I noticed a small oil puddle in the driveway
after I parked the car in the garage after a short ride. I went back and
noticed oil all over the left front fender well.
 
I have not been running fender guards for two years. I drove in winter for
only one month last year, but that must have been enough to get one of the
oil lines to rust through. Now the steel line is all rusty and as thin and
soft as if it was made of foil. I need new oil lines or a bolt-on oil
cooler upgrade with lines.
 
Sorry to hear about your leaky tranny, Rich. Sue the bastards! I hope you
would still make it to the NG and the track event in an Eclipse. I will
bring the track pads for it, if you need them, since it uses the same pads
as the 3000GT NA. We must have been reading the horoscopes about
possibilities of unexpected oil leaks today.
 
Philip
http://supercar-engineering.com
 
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Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2003 22:30:54 -0700 (PDT)
From: dark@non-corporeal.net
Subject: Team3S: Air Filter and Choke point
 
About a month ago I have begun modification of my car (91 Stealth TT). I
decided to use the usual sites for modification stages (daveblack, team3s,
3si, etc). I put a k&n fipk on the car for my first mod.
 
Now I am curious, it seems the powerbands have changed. The turbos spool
up at higher rpms, I.E. it seems the old filterbox was designed to choke
the engine thus causing the turbos to spool sooner because more air was
needed.
 
Is this assessment correct? Am I explaining it properly?
 
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Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2003 02:18:48 -0400
From: "Eric Pierce" <griz600cc@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Fw: '94 Stealth tt stereo mods
 
First question is, are you still using the factory head unit? If not, does the aftermarket have a sub pre-out? If you are using the factory stereo, the factory amp has minimal power and you may not even feel the effects of your subwoofer. Imho, if you are using the factory stereo I'd go with a crossover.
 
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Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2003 07:09:49 -0500
From: "William J. Crabtree" <wjcrabtree@earthlink.net>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Fw: '94 Stealth tt stereo mods
 
I wanted to let everybody know that I am working on reconfiguring the DIN cable coming out of the Factory head unit to be able to plug it into  the RCA connections on an aftermarket amplifier.  I have an Infinity head unit and amplifier from a '96 or '97 (I can't remember which) in my '91, I did this conversion a few years back.  I'm actually finishing the project today....SO....If it works, the DIN cable will come out of the back of the factory head unit and terminate as two pair of RCA type connectors......front and rear, left and right.  I've found that the DIN on these stereo models take the un-amplified line level signal to the factory amp.  The benefit is that you should be able to keep your factory stereo, which I think LOOKS better than anything you can buy aftermarket(why do all aftermarket stereos these days look like they are made for 16 year olds?), and still keep your steering wheel controls, fader and balance controls, etc
 
I'll let you all know what the outcome is, and give you my "how I did it" if the outcome is favorable.
 

- -Jeff Crabtree
 St. Louis, MO
 
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Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2003 13:26:05 -0000
From: "Jeff Lucius" <jlucius@stealth316.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Air Filter and Choke point
 
>> Is this assessment correct? Am I explaining it properly?
 
No.
 
A freer intake (filter, MAS, and intake hose) causes less pressure loss before the turbo. This results directly in the turbo being able to hit the target output pressure level (boost level in the plenum) sooner, not later.
 
How fast a turbo actually spools, that is, how fast a turbo increases rotation rate, is determined by the several factors (such as A/R ratio of the exhaust housing, pressure differential across the exhaust section, and rotational inertia of the wheels and center housing components, among others) and not by pressure before the turbo.
 
You are correct that the stock MAS and filter setup are a "choke point" of sorts, that result in a 1 to 2 psi pressure drop before the turbo (max flow levels). Aftermarket setups, like mine for example with a S&B intake filter, Granatelli 87-mm MAS, and DNP 2-3/8" smooth-bore metal intake pipes, result in ~1 psi pressure drop at 800 cfm flow and ~0.5 psi loss at 500 cfm flow. In comparison, the stock MAS alone causes a 1 psi pressure drop at 500 cfm.
 
Jeff Lucius, http://www.stealth316.com/
 
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Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2003 13:29:48 -0000
From: "Jeff Lucius" <jlucius@stealth316.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Not holding boost/missing in low gears.
 
Curtis,
 
If you are running 15G's with an improved exhaust, yet still using the stock MAS and fuel system, you could *easily* be experiencing the following problems when attempting to boost to 14+ psi (1 kg/cm2).
 
- - ECU-induced overboost protection. See link below for more details. http://www.stealth316.com/2-fuelinjection.htm
 
- - inadequate fuel (and possible lean condition - what does your A/f meter read?) due to using the stock fuel pump, stock injectors, stock fuel pump electrical circuit, and no airflow signal conditioner.
 
Your copper NKG plugs at 0.032" gap are probably OK - assuming rest of ignition is OK.
 
Your short vacuum lines make no difference at all concerning your problems.
 
Reduce boost to 10 psi. Does 10 psi hold steady to redline? How about at 12 psi?
 
If you want to take full advantage of 15G turbos (I have these also) at higher than stock boost you must upgrade the fuel system - 550 injectors, Supra pump (or similar) direct-wired to battery, and one of the following: S-AFC, AFR, ARC2, GM MAF-T, VPC.
 
Reduce the boost and let us know what happens.
 
Jeff Lucius, http://www.stealth316.com/
 
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Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2003 13:36:18 -0000
From: "Jeff Lucius" <jlucius@stealth316.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: I wanna sue the bastards
 
Rich,
 
I can sympathize with you that Mitsu did not supply a transaxle in good shape and was unable to fix the problem (what is new there?). And I am glad you or others were not injured because of the transaxle problem.
 
However, YOU new the transaxle leaked. YOU new the danger in this. You can blame Mitsu (or a subset thereof) for being worthless bastards and incompetent (join the club on this). But, IMHO, because YOU were aware of the problem and the dangers, because YOU refused to get the problem fixed (regardless of whose fault it is that the transaxle leaked), it is YOUR fault the transaxle ran out of fluid.
 
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Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2003 09:35:15 -0600
From: "Curtis McConnell" <Curtis.McConnell@pulte.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Not holding boost/missing in low gears.
 
Sorry forgot to mention I have the HKS SSBOV
 
Curtis McConnell
 
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Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2003 09:42:05 -0600
From: "Curtis McConnell" <Curtis.McConnell@pulte.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Not holding boost/missing in low gears.
 
I've tried turning it down to 10 psi but still have the same problem. At 1.00 my A/F shows the richest it will go and my EGT's never have gone above 1300 F.
 
Curtis McConnell
1995 Vr-4 Spyder
 
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Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2003 13:40:57 -0400
From: Kopsick Michael J Contr WRALC/LJET <Michael.Kopsick@robins.af.mil>
Subject: Team3S: Car for sale
 
Guys I've got a primo 94 3k for sale.  I have pics and a record of everything that has been done to it.  Is there a way to post it on the 3s site?  Any help would be appreciated.
 
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