Team3S: 3000GT & Stealth Wednesday, June 18
2003 Volume 02 : Number 182
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Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 00:32:53 -0400
From: "Darren Schilberg" <
dschilberg@spamcop.net>
Subject:
RE: Team3S: Boost gauge question
Anthony,
When I installed my boost gauge I covered the hard nylon tube
(the one supplied with the gauge) with a bit of leftover silicone vacuum hose
from my engine kit. I did this because, from my Plastics Engineering
background, I knew that the silicone hose was much less likely to melt than the
nylon tube. Also, the routing ran the stuff very near the rear heat shield
so I was just taking precautions. You can see some of that in the install
page below.
Note: Pic 6 shows the hose routing after a boost controller was installed
but before a boost gauge and pic 7 shows the hose routing after a boost gauge
was installed and yes the tee moved locations on the plenum in doing so.
- --Flash!
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Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2000 05:53:41 -0500
From: Bobby Brown <
bobbybrown@direcway.com>
Subject:
Team3S: Ground Control squeaking
Can someone help me out. I just had a coil over completed and have the car
at its lowest point. Car looks awesome but now a squeak. Any
ideas??? How do I fix it?
Bobby Brown
Red 98 3000GT
"its4pla"
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Why does a puny 3l car need dual exhaust?
I'm not pickin on it..but..get a decent Dp and a 3" exhaust, and you've got
flow for well over 600Hp.
You have other sources that say different?
- ---
www.SpeedToys.com: Geoff
Mohler
orders@speedtoys.com
Team3S/3Si.org Vendor approved brake discounter; also, parts for Toyota, Audi,
BMW, Mercedes, Porsche, SAAB, Volvo. Where do you buy YOUR brakes? I can
help...asking is free! :) "If its in stock, we have it!"
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Walter,
The baffle in my active exhaust is stuck (rusted) so I only get flow out of
the left side also. Do you hear a change in the exhaust sound when you
change yours from tour to sport? If not yours could be stuck also.
Later
Dan Labonte
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Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 10:49:45 -0400
From: "Williams, Tommy F" <
WilliamsTF@bernstein.com>
Subject:
Team3S: Water Pump Question
Does anyone know the symptoms of a water pump on the verge of failure. I
have a sound coming from my engine and at first I thought the timing belt cover
was touching the belts or something. I'm currently not using the car so I
thought it might be from sitting. Last night I took it to a local service
station so the mechanic there could give a listen. He thinks it's the
water pump. Any other thoughts????
Tommy
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After I wrecked my 92 Stealth TT back in 95, the shop that repaired it
replaced the transmission with something other than the stock
transmission. It had to be modified to make it fit (not really sure what
they did, but it works fine). Are there numbers on the transmission that
would tell me what type it is? I am getting ready to put a new clutch
in.
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How many miles on the car? How many miles on the water pump (good to change
at 60K maintenance intervals)? Any water under the car, drivers side
front?
Likely noisemaker on the drivers side of the engine compartment is the
idler pulley for the accessory belt, and much cheaper to replace than the water
pump.
Chuck Willis
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There are only two transmissions that fit in our turbo cars, the 5 speed
and the 6 speed. Your car should have had a 5 speed, but it could be modified to
take a 6 speed. There are some other differences in the number of splines
in the output shaft, but that is really more of a transfer case issue. See
the team3s website or steath316.com for details.
Chuck Willis
BTW Have you taken the car in for the transfer case recall yet?
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Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 08:56:55 -0700
From: Michael Gerhard <
gerhard1@llnl.gov>
Subject: Team3S:
Stealth wheels on a Mitsubishi
I'm wondering if anyone has encountered any issues with putting 91 Stealth
RT/TT 17" wheels on a 91 Mitsubishi VR4. I'm thinking that the only
difference may be the style. Any input would be helpful, such as any need
for centering rings or other adapters, clearance issues to the stock
calipers, etc.
Thanks.
- --------------------------------------------------------------
Michael
A. Gerhard 1991 Mitsubishi 3000GT VR4 Pearl
White
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Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 13:01:41 -0400
From: "Greg Wurst" <
GWurst@miamisburg.k12.oh.us>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: Stealth wheels on a Mitsubishi
AFAIK, you should have no problem. I know for a fact the wheels off a
'94 Stealth RT/TT will fit a '95 VR4. You should have no problems.
Greg Wurst
'95 3000GT VR4
'94 Stealth RT/TT (wife's car)
>>> Michael Gerhard <
gerhard1@llnl.gov> 06/17/03 11:56AM
>>>
I'm wondering if anyone has encountered any issues with putting
91 Stealth
RT/TT 17" wheels on a 91 Mitsubishi VR4. I'm thinking that the
only
difference may be the style. Any input would be helpful, such as any
need
for centering rings or other adapters, clearance issues to the stock
calipers, etc.
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DANGER, WILL ROBINSON! ALIENS APPROACHING!
I don't think I would accept that as proof - the '94 Stealth TT wheels have
to clear the 2nd brake calipers, so are quite probably different from the '91
Stealth TT wheels. Although it is very reasonable that 1st gen Stealth TT
to 1st gen Mitsu VR4 is a "non-problem", if it was me, I would like to see a
first-hand report.
Chuck Willis
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Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 13:16:22 -0400
From: "Greg Wurst" <
GWurst@miamisburg.k12.oh.us>
Subject:
RE: Team3S: Stealth wheels on a Mitsubishi
That is correct. The '94 and newer RT/TT's and VR4's have the larger
calipers, and the 1st gen wheels won't clear. However, this was a swap
from a '91 to another '91. Both cars had the same brake setup, so there
should be no problem. Having not done it myself I won't swear to it, but I
have seen a number of 1st gen Stealth's with 1st gen VR4 wheels on Ebay (never
the other way, though), so the risk is low.
Greg Wurst
'95 3000GT VR4
'94 Stealth RT/TT (wife's car)
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Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 13:52:54 -0400
From: "Zobel, Kurt D" <
Kurt.Zobel@ca.com>
Subject: RE: Re:
Team3S: Rotor and pads?
Jeff,
I would get some drilled rotors and metal matrix or similar street pads.
You may get by with just turning your rotors if they are warped.
You probably don't want any race or carbon pads on the street, they
need
to warm up, and wear too fast.
Kurt
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Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 13:05:28 -0500 (CDT)
From: Geoff Mohler <
gemohler@www.speedtoys.com>
Subject:
RE: Re: Team3S: Rotor and pads?
I wouldn't call the R4-S carbon/Kevlar pad slow to warm up, or wears too
fast.
On Tue, 17 Jun 2003, Zobel, Kurt D wrote:
- ---
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Mohler
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Team3S/3Si.org Vendor approved brake discounter; also, parts for Toyota, Audi,
BMW, Mercedes, Porsche, SAAB, Volvo. Where do you buy YOUR brakes? I can
help...asking is free! :) "If its in stock, we have it!"
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Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 15:47:53 -0400
From: "Starkey, Jr., Joseph"
<
starkeyje@bipc.com>
Subject:
RE: Team3S: 60k svc done-yea, but now A/C not working
Did you disconnect your battery when you did your work? If not, you
might want to disconnect it, wait a minute or two, and reconnect it to reset the
ECU. Worth a shot, I think.
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Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 15:41:56 -0500 (CDT)
From: Geoff Mohler <
gemohler@www.speedtoys.com>
Subject:
Team3S: WHO is coming to Sears, June 28-29?
Need to know ASAP.
I need 11 bodies to work flag stations from 12-1pm, and well GET PAID as a
club to do so.
Fill in the blanks
1 Bob
2 ET
3 Me (or wife, we both cant at
once)
4 Ann
Koch
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
...
...
...
- ---
www.SpeedToys.com: Geoff
Mohler
orders@speedtoys.com
Team3S/3Si.org Vendor approved brake discounter; also, parts for Toyota, Audi,
BMW, Mercedes, Porsche, SAAB, Volvo. Where do you buy YOUR brakes? I can
help...asking is free! :) "If its in stock, we have it!"
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Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 13:29:03 -0700
From: "Bob Forrest" <
bf@bobforrest.com>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: New datalog run - eval needed! (was:Dyno Day report...)
- ----- Original Message -----
From: "cody" <
overclck@satx.rr.com>
> One
helpful tip... Set your throttle percentages different. I've found
>
tuning is MUCH easier if the low throttle is set at 30% and high
> is at
70% That way the ECU does most of its self adjustments in
> the low
throttle portion.
> -Cody
- ---------------------------->
That makes GREAT sense - What a terrific idea!!! Thanks, Cody!
- ---Forrest
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Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 13:59:03 -0700
From: "Bob Forrest" <
bf@bobforrest.com>
Subject: Team3S:
Blowin' smoke - Turbo? Rings?
It appeared that I'd blown the new turbo AGAIN, since the car smokes like
hell on startup when it's hot. Or have I? The other day on our way
down to Geoff's house (the temps were in the 90's), ET (in her Spec Miata) and I
played tag along 50 miles of very winding roads, and the car got a *fair*
hour-long workout on 15 and 20 mph hairpins, but nowhere near as extreme as at
the track... When we pulled into the driveway, we noticed blue smoke
coming from the exhaust. I had not noticed it before that day. The
car had not been feeling quite right, so I had asked Nissa to take it for a run
and check it out. She has had a TT and a VR-4, and ran 12.7 with the TT on
our "Fastest 3S" list, so she knows our cars. She said later that except
for the smoke, it felt fine.
When she started it up (it had rested for 1/2 hour), it was pretty smoky,
and Geoff described why he thought it was/is a blown turbo. It was even
smokier when we started it a few hours later for the run home, but the smoke
went away as we warmed up. Here's the datalog I ran for the first 1/2 hour
of the trip, on the winding roads. I logged EGR Temp, RPM, Fuel Trim High,
Fuel Trim Low, Fuel Trim Middle, ISC Steps, Injector Pulse Width, Knock (zero
for the entire run, max 9psi), Oxygen Sensor, and Timing Advance. Here is
the datalog in both .tlg (TMO) and .csv (Excel) formats:
www.Team3S.com/VR4-logs/TurboSmokeRun0616.tlgwww.Team3S.com/VR4-logs/TurboSmokeRun0616.csv
Now today, I started it up in the cool morning, and there was NO
smoke. I was hoping I could see it, since I was dropping it off at the
shop, for my guy Willy to look at it. He took it for a few runs, and
noticed nothing other than a slight puff on startup, then it went away.
But he pulled the oil filler cap and saw lots of smoke in there. Could it
be that while I was running so rich (for safety, to prevent knock) after
installing the bigger turbos and injectors, and S-AFC-II, that I washed the oil
from the cylinder walls and fried the rings? (BTW, it used about 1/2 qt in
the last 800 miles). Willy thinks that might be so - we're going to replace the
break-in (standard) oil with Mobil-1 (10W-30), but Willy thinks that Mobil-1 40W
might be more appropriate. What do you folks think? Other
comments?
Thanks for any feedback!
Forrest
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Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 16:00:21 -0500 (CDT)
From: Geoff Mohler <
gemohler@www.speedtoys.com>
Subject:
Team3S: Re: Blowin' smoke - Turbo? Rings?
Washing the cylinders..
That's fully possible, but you were SERIOUSLY smoking at idle..I
mean..incredible amounts. No way you were idling that smooth with that
much going past rings.
however, its still possible you damaged the rings during breakin being too
rich.
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Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 14:10:41 -0700
From: "Bob Forrest" <
bf@bobforrest.com>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: WHO is coming to Sears, June 28-29?
I'll work a station for 1 hour. Others coming are Rick Pierce and
Lori Rogers, Vern Rogers, Mike Gerhard, Bill Ashurst, and a couple of new Team3S
people, and a couple of friends... All groups are FULL, so anyone else
coming will just come to watch...
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Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 16:09:14 -0500 (CDT)
From: Geoff Mohler <
gemohler@www.speedtoys.com>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: WHO is coming to Sears, June 28-29?
Well, I told Jerry I would bring 11 people both days.
Bottom line..we need 11 bodies to meet at registration at 10:55 for a
flagger school Saturday, 30min we work with the track guys, 30min we run it
ourselves for Grp1
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Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 17:12:55 -0400
From: "Ken Stanton" <
ken.c.stanton@usa.net>
Subject:
Re: TANGENT: Team3S: Blowin' smoke - Turbo? Rings?
Which cars have EGR Temp available to datalog?
Thanks
Ken Stanton
91 Pearl White Stealth TT
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Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 14:21:17 -0700
From: "Bob Forrest" <
bf@bobforrest.com>
Subject: Re:
TANGENT: Team3S: Blowin' smoke - Turbo? Rings?
- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Ken Stanton" <
ken.c.stanton@usa.net>
> Which
cars have EGR Temp available to datalog?
-
--------------------------------------------->
Heh... Obviously NOT mine! ;-) All the EGR values are the
same for the entire run, so I'm NOT reading it, and it will be removed from my
"quick select" for the future - I'm learning. ;-) It was a parameter
I selected when trying to add values to the datalog for others to
interpret. I still have only the faintest clue what I'm doing with
datalogging. Best,
- ---Forrest
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Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 17:29:16 -0400
From: "Ken Stanton" <
ken.c.stanton@usa.net>
Subject:
Re: TANGENT: Team3S: Blowin' smoke - Turbo? Rings?
Yeah, datalogging seems like a poor-mans tuning tool. You get some
stuff, you grunt and poke at it, read it while on the john, and think about it
in your sleep. But what does it amount to? I think we should put up
a site with everyone's logs, and FULL info on the cars (mods, track times,
running condition, fuel economy, etc etc) so maybe we can digest a bunch and
compare/contrast and maybe be able to make some conclusions! I, for one,
have a car that should run 12.5's but is still 13.5's and this thing is mint.. I
mean _mint_. I just dunno......
Ken Stanton
Fast-azz 91 Pearl White Stealth TT
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Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 16:37:07 -0500
From: "Geisel, Brian" <
brian.geisel@hp.com>
Subject: RE:
Team3S: Blowin' smoke - Turbo? Rings?
Bob,
What happens if you're on it hard, then just cut throttle
(i.e. step off the gas)? When my rear turbo was gone I was seeing smoke in
this case. Not necessarily when I was on it, but as soon as I let off I
puffed (I think a true BOV will do this too w/o appropriate mods from forcing
you rich). If you are still using the stock BPV, I'd be interested in
seeing if you puff immediately following hard acceleration.
Anyone
considered valves?
geis
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Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 16:37:57 -0500 (CDT)
From: Geoff Mohler <
gemohler@www.speedtoys.com>
Subject:
RE: Team3S: Blowin' smoke - Turbo? Rings?
Nah..he runs too well for valves..new motor shouldn't have bad
seals..
I mean..you cant SEE thru the smoke at idle.
I still think its a bad turbo(s), and with those leakin..hard to say if the
consumption issue is rings or not.
- ---
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Mohler
orders@speedtoys.com
Team3S/3Si.org Vendor approved brake discounter; also, parts for Toyota, Audi,
BMW, Mercedes, Porsche, SAAB, Volvo. Where do you buy YOUR brakes? I can
help...asking is free! :) "If its in stock, we have it!"
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Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 17:44:14 -0400
From: "Furman, Russell" <
RFurman2@MassMutual.com>
Subject:
RE: Team3S: Blowin' smoke - Turbo? Rings?
Its it smoking heavily under throttle or off throttle, do the turbos whine
at all when under throttle?
I might be in agreement with Geoff but I want a few more details before I
step into the same pile of $hit he is already in....
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Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 18:18:12 -0400
From: "Zobel, Kurt D" <
Kurt.Zobel@ca.com>
Subject: RE:
Team3S: Engine misfires with hard acceleration . . . .
Carbon buildup? Check compression for high values.
You said checked timing. If that didn't include basic ignition timing you
might check it.
ECU capacitors seem to play these tricks too.
Kurt
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Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 22:17:46 +0000
From:
nouveau3@attbi.comSubject: RE: Team3S:
Blowin' smoke - Turbo? Rings? Whine?
I've got a question about whine. My '92 has 128,000 miles on it, and it has
(from what I can tell) the original turbos. When I did valves a few months
ago
I check the turbos and there didn't seem to be any excessive shaft play,
I have
virtually no smoking at any time and I go through less than 1/2 a
quart of oil
between changes.
My turbos have made a whining sound ever
since I replaced the stock intake box,
when I got the car with 115,000 miles
on it, when I put my ATR downpipe on it
became noticeably louder.
I'm
planning on upgrading my turbos this fall but I'm curious is there a
problem
with my turbos?
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Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 15:41:40 -0700
From: "Bob Forrest" <
bf@bobforrest.com>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: Blowin' smoke - Turbo? Rings?
- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Geisel, Brian" <
brian.geisel@hp.com>
>
Bob,
> What happens if you're on it hard, then just cut throttle (i.e.
step
> off the gas)? When my rear turbo was gone I was seeing smoke
in this
> case. Not necessarily when I was on it, but as soon as I
let off I
> puffed (I think a true BOV will do this too w/o appropriate
mods
> from forcing you rich). If you are still using the stock BPV,
I'd
> be interested in seeing if you puff immediately following
hard
> acceleration. Anyone considered valves?
> geis
-
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Hey, Geis,
By the time I'm on it hard, you can't see the smoke. When the car had
had a workout yesterday, and then was turned off (idled before turning off to
cool the turbos) then allowed to sit a while, starting up showed embarrassing
gobs of smoke. After a few blocks, it's mostly a puff during the first few
shifts until I got up to speed, then nothing. When I parked the car and
idled to cool the turbos after a 50 mile trip (80-90, mostly, but rarely over
100), ET saw some smoke, but very little. And then just a few puffs today
when I started the car (cold engine)-- ditto when tested by my shop guy.
From cold to (sort of) hot (he took it out on the highway twice and tried looked
for boost - it was there, 9psi), still very little smoke, but lots
yesterday. So he thinks there could be play in the turbos, or it's the
rings. The oil *was* overfilled last week, but now it was low. Can
too much oil cause a problem other than foaming?
- ---Forrest
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Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 15:48:24 -0700
From: "Bob Forrest" <
bf@bobforrest.com>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: Blowin' smoke - Turbo? Rings?
- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Furman, Russell" <
RFurman2@MassMutual.com>
>
Its it smoking heavily under throttle or off throttle, do the turbos
>
whine at all when under throttle?
> I might be in agreement with Geoff but
I want a few more details
> before I step into the same pile of $hit he
is already in....
- ---------------------------------------->
Never under throttle, except when starting up 1/2 hour after that
moderately hard, hot run. And later, after Nissa took it out for a short,
hot run to test the boost. All was OK but the smoke - lots of it, but now
it's almost gone. Lots of smoke after a moderately hard run on a hot day
is all we saw, then almost nothing... Puffs on startup and between shifts
- that's all now.
- ---Forrest
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Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 19:37:42 -0500 (CDT)
From: Geoff Mohler <
gemohler@www.speedtoys.com>
Subject:
RE: Team3S: Blowin' smoke - Turbo? Rings?
off throttle, no whine.
- ---
www.SpeedToys.com: Geoff
Mohler
orders@speedtoys.com
Team3S/3Si.org Vendor approved brake discounter; also, parts for Toyota, Audi,
BMW, Mercedes, Porsche, SAAB, Volvo. Where do you buy YOUR brakes? I can
help...asking is free! :) "If its in stock, we have it!"
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 21:38:43 -0400
From: "Pierre Routhier" <
pierre.routhier@look.ca>
Subject:
Team3S: Front Wheel bearing replacement
Hello everyone,
anyone could give some hints as to how to remove
the front wheels bearings. Thanks
Pierre/Pearl White 92 RTTT
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Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 18:51:34 -0700 (PDT)
From:
chfmn@webtv.net (Walter Womack)
Subject:
Team3S: Redundancy
Thanks everyone for the info.I had just assumed that I had dual
exhaust.I'll try switching to quiet mode to see if there is a difference.If not
I'll check the baffle.Happy hunting.
92 RTTT Pearl White
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Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 20:06:01 -0600
From: Janice Findlay <
jefind@shaw.ca>
Subject: Team3S:
underdrive pulley
Hi everyone, I'm looking into getting an underdrive pulley and am just
curious, which one would you guys go with the unorthodox or the 3sx,
assuming those are my only two choices? and how hard is it to change? Thanks
Andrew
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Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 21:08:02 -0500
From: "William J. Crabtree" <
wjcrabtree@earthlink.net>
Subject:
Team3S: another one bites the dust....stealth
I finally got around to lifting some pics off of our file tapes at work
from this ax.
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Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 20:18:45 -0600
From: Janice Findlay <
jefind@shaw.ca>
Subject: Team3S:
upgrading fuel system
I'm looking to get some more power out of my 93 Stealth R/T(non turbo)
without spending too much money. I've been told to upgrade my fuel
injectors and get a fuel controller. Is this something that is some what
easy to do or am I getting in way over my head if I'm pretty much just a
beginner. How much power does this add and do I have to upgrade my fuel
pump too. As much info as possible would be nice, because I'm really
interested, but I just don't know where to start. Thanks Andrew
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Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 22:18:31 -0400
From: Kevin Schappell <
kevin@schappell.com>
Subject: RE:
Team3S: underdrive pulley
I know both pulleys do not keep the harmonic dampener like the stock
pulley. 3SX is not even underdriven which doesn't make sense to me... you are
getting a harmful product for your vehicle for little to no gain in HP.
Kevin
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Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 22:26:32 -0400
From: "Alex Pedenko" <
alex@kolosy.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S:
upgrading fuel system
Unless you plan on turbocharging/supercharging your car, I don't see how
that would do _anything_ for you. To use more fuel, you need more air. To get
more air in an NA car (or at least so much more that the stock fuel system won't
handle it) you need forced induction
Alex
'95 VR4
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Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 19:36:23 -0700
From: "Tyson Varosyan" <
tigran@tigran.com>
Subject: RE:
Team3S: another one bites the dust....stealth
I have never seen a 3S with steel wheels before. Pretty bad crash. Hope all
are ok.
Tyson
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I noticed today that my speedometer is indicating a faster speed than I am
actually traveling.
The police dept in my town has invested in a couple of these trailer
mounted devices that they haul around to different areas of town. They set
them up by the side of the road and leave them there for a while. There's
a big display that shows your speed as you approach. As I came upon one of
them today, my speedometer was indicating 45 mph, but the radar device showed
40. Is this normal for these cars? Can the speedo be recalibrated?
I've got stock wheels and tires.
Bob G
92 3000GT VR-4
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Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 22:54:38 -0400
From: "Ken Stanton" <
ken.c.stanton@usa.net>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: Speedometer
Yup, sure is normal. See Jeff L's site,
www.stealth316.com for the details. I did
the 5-6 speed conversion, and my speedo is gps verified to 100mph+ for 0%
error. Impressive.
Ken Stanton
91 Pearl White Stealth TT
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Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 22:16:30 -0500
From: "Wieschhaus, Brandon Kenneth
(UMR-Student)" <
bwish@umr.edu>
Subject: RE: Team3S:
underdrive pulley
Well, I'll go ahead and point out the obvious place to go, to save Forrest
the time... Check the Team3S website for the UDP stuff. Apparently it was a
pretty heated debate at some time...
http://www.team3s.com/FAQudp.htm
-b
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Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 20:47:50 -0700
From: "fastmax" <
fastmax@cox.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S:
Dent pullers
Mats --- there are several suction cup type pullers. Some are nothing more
than a hand sized suction cup with a handle --- put some oil on it, place it
over a
shallow dent and pull. If there are no creases in the dent it 'may'
pull out. There's another one being advertised on American TV ---- it uses a
little metal bridge with a small suction cup on a threaded rod. The cup is glued
to the metal using hot glue [ I think ] and the threaded rod is turned to pull
the cup up in a controlled manner. I'm sure it works in some cases but not as
well as they show.
An internet search should turn up some suction cup pullers.
Jim Berry
=================================================
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Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 01:03:04 -0500
From: "Nick McDermott" <
eire1274@cox.net>
Subject: Team3S: 93
VR-4 Wheels available
I've got a set of wheels off my 93 VR-4 project car. They are the
stock 5-spoke chrome 17". Two of the wheels were dented by curb hopping by
the car's previous owner. Three of the tires look good (some
tread
left) and hold air but one has a small sidewall puncture on the inside
and won't hold air... not sure if a tire shop would patch that kind of
puncture. Interestingly, the punctured tire was on the rear, an undamaged
rim. Go figure.
Chrome is mostly OK... the wheels actually look less than their 10 years of
age. I think the dents could probably be pounded out fairly easily by a
good shop. I'd like $300 for the set (I'd prefer all 4 to go
together)
plus shipping, and will cruise out to the garage with the digital cam if anybody
wants some pictures. If $300 seems too high, make an offer and we'll
see.
I'm replacing with some Ikari-style open wheels (and before anybody
cringes, this is a demo car for my shop) and have no use for the old ones.
Otherwise they'll go on eBay.
Nick
93 VR-4 (codename: curbcheck)
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