Team3S: 3000GT & Stealth     Sunday, June 1 2003     Volume 02 : Number 169
 
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Date: Sat, 31 May 2003 09:28:07 -0600
From: Janice Findlay <jefind@shaw.ca>
Subject: Team3S: tail lights
 
Has anyone ever tried a tail light conversion on a Stealth with 3000gt tail lights?  Would it be hard?  What would you need?  Do you have to use the 1st gen 3000gt or can you use any? Thanks Andrew
 
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Date: Sat, 31 May 2003 11:29:46 -0400
From: "Darren Schilberg" <dschilberg@spamcop.net>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Front exhaust manifold
 
Matt,
 
   Thanks.  I didn't look in the manual/CAPS for where that short bolt and locking nut are located since I wasn't removing the turbo but just loosening it to get some wiggle room for the manifold.  I did move the wastegate clockwise (swinging about the cotter pin connection) to get room to the air hose from the turbo to the Y-pipe and swung it counterclockwise to get room to remove the water and oil lines in case those were holding it from moving out of the way much.  I definitely had grease/dirt/penetrating fluid on the Mechanix gloves and I'm sure that is smeared on the turbo housing and I also had to spray the bolts around it so some splashed/dripped onto the housing. I'll just drive it/idle it until it burns off.  There is also crayon/marker writing on the manifold from M&S Recycling like a part number or something that will also be burning off eventually.  Thanks.
 
- --Flash!
 
- -----Original Message-----
From: Matt Jannusch [mailto:mjannusch@attbi.com]
Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2003 10:28
 
The ring is held together on one side with a short bolt and locking nut.  If you take that apart, the ring will come off the turbo, and if you take the cotter pin off the wastegate actuator arm, you can pull the two halves of the turbo apart.  The ring shouldn't be able to slide off on its own, but it doesn't "seal" the turbo up - it just holds the two halves in place.  If you got some oil or grease from your hands on the turbo and/or manifold, it'll smoke like crazy until it burns off - no big deal, and nothing to worry about.
 
- -Matt
'95 3000GT Spyder VR4
 
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Date: Sat, 31 May 2003 15:19:21 -0500
From: "Wieschhaus, Brandon Kenneth (UMR-Student)" <bwish@umr.edu>
Subject: RE: Team3S: tail lights
 
Actually, I've read about it on 3si.org. I think the guy put on a 1st gen 3K bumper, but they're all so similar that I think you could put on any one you wanted. Go to www.3si.org and do a search for "Hybrid Stealth" or something like that...
    -b
 
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Date: Sat, 31 May 2003 16:35:40 -0400
From: "Philip V. Glazatov" <philip@supercar-engineering.com>
Subject: Team3S: New Product + SCE is now 3S NG Sponsor
 
Great News!
Carbotech 2nd gen 3S rear pads will now be available in all Carbotech
compounds. Those pads are rare and are not used on any other cars. But SCE
with all your help persuaded Carbotech to start offering them. :-)  High
friction coefficient and wide range of operating temperatures make these
Carbotech pads ideal for those who want to increase braking power of the
rear brakes.
 
Even BETTER news!!!
Supercar Engineering is now an official sponsor of the 3S National
Gathering. Several sets of Carbotech brake pads will be given away as door
prizes to 3S NG participants. Those sets were supplied by Carbotech, who is
also supporting our 3S community.
 
Carbotech Panther Plus and Panther XP brake pads are available at mailto:philip@supercar-engineering.com at 15% off. A few sets are in stock
and a bunch is coming soon.
 
Happy braking!!!
 
Philip
http://supercar-engineering.com
 
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Date: Sat, 31 May 2003 16:31:23 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Stephen C. Kempf" <kempfsc@mail.auburn.edu>
Subject: Team3S: Repairs
 
This list has certainly been a help to me in the past with my 1993 Stealth ES. Particularly the time I was having timing belt replacement problems. I still have the car after 10 years and 80,000 miles and it's reaching the point that some major service that is beyond my capability is going to be necessary. My son is driving now and has been salivating over Dad's car since I bought it. He's an excellent driver and he's saved up quite a nest egg to put toward a car for himself. Since the trade-in on my 10 yr old car would not be exceedingly high, what I'd like to do is get the major service (e.g. clutch, suspension, tune-up) done on my car and then give it to him and let him put some of his hard-earned cash aside to offset the deductible on his insurance, should he need it, and then use what's left to spiff up the car any way he wants. Dad, of course, will move on to another vehicle, maybe a later model Stealth or 3000 GT since this has been probably the best car I've ever owned.
 
At any rate, my question. I haven't been particularly happy with the service at a number of shops I've tried in my area (Auburn, AL) and was wondering if anyone on this list would be willing to recommend a shop that's within about a 200 mile radius. That would include Birmingham, AL, Atlanta, GA, Montgomery, AL, and Columbus, GA. I realize there are no guarantees in any suggestions that are made, but, if you've had good experience on major work (clutch, timing belt, whatever) at a shop within that radius, I'd very much appreciate knowing who they are.
 
So as not to clog the list with a bunch of e-mails on this subject, you can e-mail me directly at,
 
kempfsc@auburn.edu
 
Thank you in advance for any input on this request,
 
Steve Kempf
 
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Date: Sat, 31 May 2003 17:48:22 -0400
From: "Shannon Andrew Rowe" <shannonroweis@rogers.com>
Subject: Team3S: Fuel cut??
 
My Stealth TT started fine this morning but after about 3 minutes of drive time, started not to respond to the throttle.  The car was still powered but refused to take gas.  It would then wait until the RPM's were just about to die and then kick back in again, all the while keeping the pedal to the floor.  It would allow me to open the throttle to 6,000 RPM but after climbing would then die again.  On every occasion it will start fine and can move through the RPM's quite fine once, then drops to almost stall.  If I keep the accelerator to the floor before it dies, it will then kick up one last time to die for good, until restart....and then continues this pattern.
 
Does anyone have any ideas??   About 4 months ago I replaced the idler
control motor because of a somewhat similar problem and it appeared to solve it.  This is similar but not identical because of what appears to be, fuel cut.  The weather has been particularly damp lately and wondered if that is playing a role?  As you can see I'm out of thoughts, any help would be greatly appreciated,
 
P.S. thanks for everyone's advice on tires, I purchased the Yokohama ES100 and find them to be an excellent tire, a little louder than the previous Goodyears but very economical tire with great performance.  Thanks again!
 
Thanks in advance,
 
Shannon Rowe
92 Dodge Stealth RT/TT
K&N FIPK
1970 Dodge Charger RT 440
 
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Date: Sat, 31 May 2003 17:08:58 -0500
From: "merritt@cedar-rapids.net" <merritt@cedar-rapids.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Fuel cut??
 
At 05:48 PM 5/31/03 -0400, Shannon Andrew Rowe wrote:
>My Stealth TT started fine this morning but after about 3 minutes of
>drive time, started not to respond to the throttle.  The car was still
>powered but refused to take gas.  It would then wait until the RPM's were just about to die and then kick back in again, all the while keeping the pedal to the floor.
 
While you are waiting for the real experts to answer on Monday, let me suggest something simple: Check the Y-pipe. If it's off the air box, or if it sucked in its Y-pipe gasket, it can do a lot of weird stuff (been there, done that on both counts). Part of what you are describing sounds like a Y-pipe, but not all, so this probably is not the correct answer, but ya never know. Can't hurt to take a look.
 
Rich/slow old poop
 
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Date: Sat, 31 May 2003 18:46 -0800
From: Marc Jaffe <marc@marcjaffe.com>
Subject: Team3S: ECS stuck in sport mode
 
howdy all,
my car just got back from the body shop with a new front end. All is well
except when I come to a stop the ecs fails and needs to be reset. I feel it
is the dive sensor. Any ideas? Thanx, marc
 
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Date: Sat, 31 May 2003 18:54:46 -0600
From: Fraser Family <b-mfraser@shaw.ca>
Subject: Team3S: Main Cat Cover
 
Hello,
I have a question about the stock exhaust setup. Is there some type of metal covering that is underneath the main catalytic converter? What I believe to be this piece fell off my 92 TT yesterday, luckily while I was driving slowly. It looks like it was just riveted onto another part of the main cat. Just wanted to know if this is what I think it is, and if it serves any important purpose other than protecting the cat from debris on the road. In other words, will everything be ok if it stays off for a while? Thanks, Sean Fraser 92 R/T TT
 
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Date: Sun, 01 Jun 2003 13:26:55 +1200
From: "waynethomas" <waynethomas@quicksilver.net.nz>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Datalogger
 
>> The guy you're speaking of is Chris Dooley, and he's listed on the
>> Team3S "Good Guys" page, since he gives discounts to our members... 
>> He has cables for palms and laptops, complete or as kits - and he
>> hand-tests each one.
>> He's working on a new version of the software to get rid of some glitches
>> (like the fact that it won't work fully on my P3 laptop, or Rick's...). 
 
Just had a look at Chris's website, from what I read it doesn't sound like
the cable includes software.  Am I wrong or does software need to be sourced
elsewhere?
 
Cheers
Wayne
 
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Date: Sat, 31 May 2003 21:45:22 -0400 (EDT)
From: Castawaykev <castawaykev@yahoo.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: might be miss firing? or vacuum seal
 
Excellent advice.  I am actually getting an OEM (used)
crank pulley.  The aftermarket one arrived and was the
wrong size anyway...go figure, it was for a different
car.  My mechanic told me the Chrysler dealer had one
new for $430 CDN ..I said screw that and looked for
a used one on the net.  Ordered it from out of western
Canada and am hoping it will arrive within 4 days. I
need the car running A1 by Thursday as I want to go to
see my folks who I haven't seen in over 7 years.  They
live in Southern Ontario...near Windsor and it will be
about a 16 or so hour drive.  I plan on driving
sensible due to my new paint job, recent firing
problems and the police. :)  I bet I will floor it
here and there along the way...but mostly smooth
sailing.  At least until I see my folks ..on the way...back./.that's a different story.  lol....Hope to drop in to Ottawa and visit friends and show of the car.
 
I'll be getting back to all of you about the outcome
of the crank pulley and misfiring deal...shortly.
 
Kev
 
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Date: Sat, 31 May 2003 20:43:39 -0500
From: "cody" <overclck@satx.rr.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Fuel cut??
 
I can guarantee it's NOT fuel cut.  In my AWD Talon, if you are to hit fuel cut (quite easy using the stock MAS), while accelerating in 1st, 2nd, or 3rd, it's not a gradual slow down.  It feels like someone jabbed the brake for a split second.  I would look towards what Rich said, maybe an intermittent connection, or a huge boost leak.  I had a problem similar to yours one time whereas the connection on the MAS had become somewhat corroded (on my 3000), and it would exhibit similar behavior.
 
- -Cody
 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: merritt@cedar-rapids.net
> Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2003 5:09 PM
>
> While you are waiting for the real experts to answer on Monday, let me
> suggest something simple: Check the Y-pipe. If it's off the air box,
> or if it sucked in its Y-pipe gasket, it can do a lot of weird stuff (been
> there, done that on both counts). Part of what you are describing
> sounds like a Y-pipe, but not all, so this probably is not the correct
> answer, but ya never know. Can't hurt to take a look.
>
> Rich/slow old poop
 
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Date: Sat, 31 May 2003 20:45:02 -0500
From: "cody" <overclck@satx.rr.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Main Cat Cover
 
Don't park over anything flammable, such as grass, leaves, etc.  The cat gets extremely hot, and that is a heat shield as well as debris shield. Many RX-7's went up in flames because of this same problem, though they had a proper heat shield, it just didn't do its job entirely...
 
- -Cody
 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Fraser Family
> Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2003 7:55 PM
>
> Hello,
> I have a question about the stock exhaust setup. Is there some type of
> metal covering that is underneath the main catalytic converter? What I
> believe to be this piece fell off my 92 TT yesterday, luckily while I
> was driving slowly. It looks like it was just riveted onto another
> part of the main cat.
>
> Just wanted to know if this is what I think it is, and if it serves
> any important purpose other than protecting the cat from debris on the
> road.  In other words, will everything be ok if it stays off for a while?
>
> Thanks, Sean Fraser
> 92 R/T TT
 
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Date: Sat, 31 May 2003 21:53:20 -0600
From: Janice Findlay <jefind@shaw.ca>
Subject: Team3S:
 
Does anybody know if it would be possible to do a 98 supra tail light conversion on a 93 stealth r/t? thanks Andrew
 
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Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2003 00:02:47 -0600
From: "Donald Ashby" <dashbyiii@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Main Cat Cover
 
Yea I'd second that really hot part. I've been to a couple dyno pulls where the guy on it didn't have any heat shields on the car, you could bend down and actually see the headers, and cat (non turbo car) start to glow bright red. It was pretty cool looking to say the least. Donald Ashby '93 3000GT VR-4 (RIP) "Don't drink and park, accidents cause people!"
 
- ----- Original Message -----
From: "cody" <overclck@satx.rr.com>
Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2003 7:45 PM
 
Don't park over anything flammable, such as grass, leaves, etc.  The cat gets extremely hot, and that is a heat shield as well as debris shield. Many RX-7's went up in flames because of this same problem, though they had a proper heat shield, it just didn't do its job entirely...
 
- -Cody
 
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