Team3S: 3000GT & Stealth    Saturday, May 31 2003    Volume 02 : Number 168




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Date: Fri, 30 May 2003 05:38:45 -0700
From: "Guy, Michael (CS)" <michael.guy@northropgrumman.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Stabilizer Bushings

> she doesn't need high performance but I figure we could find something a
bit
> better than stock. 

I would recommend and just from personal experience, that since you
have to take the car apart to replace the bushings, I would buy a new
anti-sway bar. They are pretty cheap, and come with everything to install it
in the car.
It tightened my handling considerably with the Addco one on
3sxperformance.com I love the way my car handles now. Granted its not the
best I have ever driven, but its alot tighter than stock.
If you go that route though, make sure you mention you are a team3s
member, otherwords you pay full price for it, which is about $170. shipped.
I didn't know I could get a discount, and felt kinda stupid when I found out
I could have.

Just my two cents.
Mike Guy
92 Stealth SOHC

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Date: Fri, 30 May 2003 13:06:46 -0000
From: Kopsick Michael J Contr WRALC/LJET <Michael.Kopsick@robins.af.mil>
Subject: Team3S: Downpipe exhaust Question

Ok fellas, I have a 94 SL and the braided flex on the exhaust has rusted out
right in front of the large cat converter.  I saw that 3SX offers a
replacement, but I've noticed no one likes to use these guys in this forum.
I'm new to these cars and this forum so forgive me if I'm bringing up bad
vibes!  haha  My question is does anyone know of an replacement section for
the exhaust?  Is 3SX the only ones that offer one? I have a Cali-Spec system
on my car.

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Date: Fri, 30 May 2003 08:42:25 -0500
From: "Wieschhaus, Brandon Kenneth (UMR-Student)" <bwish@umr.edu>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Downpipe exhaust Question

Flex tubes should be available at any reputable exhaust shop. Mine was rusted out when I got my car, and I got it replaced for $65 plus installation. Prices on the flex tubes vary by quite a bit it seems, from region to region, so do some shopping...
    -b

- -----Original Message-----
From: Kopsick Michael J Contr WRALC/LJET
[mailto:Michael.Kopsick@robins.af.mil]
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2003 8:07 AM
To: 'Team3S (E-mail)
Subject: Team3S: Downpipe exhaust Question

Ok fellas, I have a 94 SL and the braided flex on the exhaust has rusted out
right in front of the large cat converter.  I saw that 3SX offers a
replacement, but I've noticed no one likes to use these guys in this forum.
I'm new to these cars and this forum so forgive me if I'm bringing up bad
vibes!  haha  My question is does anyone know of an replacement section for
the exhaust?  Is 3SX the only ones that offer one? I have a Cali-Spec system
on my car.

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Date: Fri, 30 May 2003 10:52:44 -0400
From: "Gene Calarco" <gac@clifton.ds.adp.com>
Subject: Team3S: Datalogger

Has anyone used the Datalogger software available for the laptop by a party
TurnerStein?  How reliable is this software for the early OBDI  type ECU.  I
an looking for a reasonably priced solution for logging data and this seems
to be available and priced right.

Eugene
92' NT-DOHC

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Date: Fri, 30 May 2003 11:25:47 -0400
From: Joseph Spainhour <spainhou@bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Boost question.

Hello all,

   Turns out my boost problem was due to the wastgates being set to
external in the boost controller. I must have flipped it in my new toy
daze. Once I set it to internal, all was well and 14 PSI is no problem.

Thanks,

Joseph
93 3KGT VR4

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Date: Fri, 30 May 2003 11:52:51 -0400
From: "Gene Calarco" <gac@clifton.ds.adp.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Datalogger

I believe the price seems to range from 45.00 to 60.00 for the cable and
software.  I will most likely purchase it and give it a shot for that price.
Most of the feedback I'm seeing is positive on the software.

Eugene

- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Rivenburg, Pete" <privenburg@firstam.com>
To: "'Gene Calarco'" <gac@clifton.ds.adp.com>
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2003 11:04 AM
Subject: RE: Team3S: Datalogger

> Hey Gene,
> If you DO wind up with laptop software for the early ECUs (mines a 93
> SL)keep posting here PLEASE. I have been wanting to do the same thing, I
> have an old 100Mhz laptop I want to mount in the car for datalogging, been
> thinking about building a cable myself & writing the software for it but
if
> it's out there fairly cheap I'll be getting one two.
> what was the price BTW?
>
> Pete Rivenburg
> privenburg@firstam.com

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Date: Fri, 30 May 2003 09:02:54 -0700
From: "Gross, Erik" <erik.gross@intel.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Downpipe exhaust Question

> I saw that 3SX offers a replacement, but
> I've noticed no one likes to use these guys
> in this forum.

Huh?  Where'd you get that from?  I've done business with 3SX many times over the last couple years and never had any problems.  I've also not seen anything posted publicly  here indicating that anyone else had problems, resolved or otherwise.  3SX is also listed on the Team3s Good Guys page...

- --Erik
'95 VR-4  www.team3s.com/~egross

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Date: Fri, 30 May 2003 16:13:15 +0000
From: nouveau3@attbi.com
Subject: RE: Team3S: Downpipe exhaust Question

I've dealt with 3SX on a couple occasions and have nothing but good things to
say about them. Reasonable prices, quick shipping and good communication. One
of the better shops out there.
> > I saw that 3SX offers a replacement, but
> > I've noticed no one likes to use these guys
> > in this forum.
>
> Huh?  Where'd you get that from?  I've done business with 3SX many times over
> the last couple years and never had any problems.  I've also not seen anything
> posted publicly  here indicating that anyone else had problems, resolved or
> otherwise.  3SX is also listed on the Team3s Good Guys page...
>
> --Erik
> '95 VR-4  www.team3s.com/~egross

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Date: Fri, 30 May 2003 10:36:48 -0600
From: "Moe Prasad" <mprasad@uswest.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Downpipe exhaust Question

I think he is about the DN pipes that crack under hard launches.

Speaking of DN Performance. Does anyone know if he sells his downpipe with
the flex section separate from the exhaust system or is only a combo
package?

Rgds
Moe

- ----- Original Message -----
From: <nouveau3@attbi.com>
To: "Gross, Erik" <erik.gross@intel.com>
Cc: "Kopsick Michael J Contr WRALC/LJET" <Michael.Kopsick@robins.af.mil>;
"Team3S List (E-mail)" <team3s@team3s.com>
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2003 10:13 AM
Subject: RE: Team3S: Downpipe exhaust Question

> I've dealt with 3SX on a couple occasions and have nothing but good things
to
> say about them. Reasonable prices, quick shipping and good communication.
One
> of the better shops out there.
> > > I saw that 3SX offers a replacement, but
> > > I've noticed no one likes to use these guys
> > > in this forum.
> >
> > Huh?  Where'd you get that from?  I've done business with 3SX many times
over
> > the last couple years and never had any problems.  I've also not seen
anything
> > posted publicly  here indicating that anyone else had problems, resolved
or
> > otherwise.  3SX is also listed on the Team3s Good Guys page...
> >
> > --Erik
> > '95 VR-4  www.team3s.com/~egross

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Date: Fri, 30 May 2003 12:39:24 -0400
From: Joseph Spainhour <spainhou@bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Downpipe exhaust Question

I have to agree. I have never had a bad experience in dealing with them.

Joseph
93 3KGT VR4

nouveau3@attbi.com wrote:
> I've dealt with 3SX on a couple occasions and have nothing but good things to
> say about them. Reasonable prices, quick shipping and good communication. One
> of the better shops out there.
>
>>>I saw that 3SX offers a replacement, but
>>>I've noticed no one likes to use these guys
>>>in this forum.
>>
>>Huh?  Where'd you get that from?  I've done business with 3SX many times over
>>the last couple years and never had any problems.  I've also not seen anything
>>posted publicly  here indicating that anyone else had problems, resolved or
>>otherwise.  3SX is also listed on the Team3s Good Guys page...
>>
>>--Erik
>>'95 VR-4  www.team3s.com/~egross

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Date: Fri, 30 May 2003 09:42:50 -0700
From: "Bob Forrest" <bf@bobforrest.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Downpipe exhaust Question

- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Kopsick Michael J Contr WRALC/LJET" <Michael.Kopsick@robins.af.mil>
> Ok fellas, I have a 94 SL and the braided flex on the exhaust has rusted out
right in front of the large cat converter.  I saw that 3SX offers a
replacement, but I've noticed no one likes to use these guys in this forum.
I'm new to these cars and this forum so forgive me if I'm bringing up bad
vibes!  haha  My question is does anyone know of an replacement section for
the exhaust?  Is 3SX the only ones that offer one? I have a Cali-Spec system
on my car.
- ------------------------------->

???  3SXPerformance is one of the "Good Guys" vendors who give discounts to
Team3S members, *and* they are fellow members as well...  I use them all the
time (as my checkbook will attest).  I have the Cali-spec Hi-Flow cat and 3SX
DP on my 94 Stealth NT;  I have the 3SXP HF cat on my 91 VR-4, too.  I've also
got motormounts, BOV, Dual BC, control arms for both cars, JIC "Magic"
coilovers for the VR-4 and GC coilovers for the Stealth..., Saner bar,
550cc's, and a bunch of other stuff--  Got 'em all from 3SXPerformance (nice
discount, too).

You *might* save $10 getting the exhaust section custom-made somewhere, but I
preferred not to take a chance and got the 3SXP version.  Great unit.  3SX is
one of the best, IMO, or they wouldn't get so much of my business.
Best,
- ---Forrest

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Date: Fri, 30 May 2003 11:44:40 -0500 (CDT)
From: Geoff Mohler <gemohler@www.speedtoys.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Extended Warranty / Dealers  and after Market Parts

I -belive- that the style of the Eclipse clutch design, CAN cause crank
damage on aftermarket clutches.

On Thu, 29 May 2003, John Sheehan wrote:

> Who was it that just solved the long ordeal with a dealer an extended warranty? A friend is having a similar problem with an Eclipse and a
> Dealer. I have directed him to the sate consumer affairs and told him to check the detail on Carfax, etc.. If Mitsubishi is pushing on after market parts as part of the problem, then what next from them!! He needs help and I know my legal mind is 25 years out of date on this subject. John
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
> Any help I am having lots of trouble with my car. This time the dealer is
>
> telling me they need to contact the extended warranty to see if they
> will cover the repairs, that i need done on the car. is there anything
> i can do against the dealer for telling me lies when they sold the car.
> they told me it had a new engine on it,  since i got it i have taken it
> to the shop no less than 7 times. twice they kept it for a week. i have
> taken it this week for oil leak on the crank shaft seal, clutch fluid
> leaking inside the car on the firewall, oil pan have a couple of mayor
> dents, and a busted cv boot on the passenger axle. do you think i can
> get my money back or should i go to the bank and see if they can help
> me. i don't really like the matter of the car breaking down every 3 weeks
> or so. i know that the crank shaft its bad since they built the cars
> from mid 95 to 97 the crank shaft wasn't built right, and mitsubishi
> blames it on the after market (non OEM) clutches, meaning that the bottom end of the engine have to be replaced after 60k miles. what can i do in this case.
> Thank you, Margarito
>
> >Margarito.Zamora@sanmina-sci.com

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Date: Fri, 30 May 2003 18:21:49 -0000
From: Kopsick Michael J Contr WRALC/LJET <Michael.Kopsick@robins.af.mil>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Downpipe exhaust Question

OK I saw a post here a few days ago that said it didnt like to mention
3SX...I'm new to these cars and this forum so I took it something wasnt
right with them.  My apologizes....I'm learning......  If anyone has
questions about Conquest TSi's then I can help ya...I have a show car TSi
and have recently moved up to the 3000...Thanks for all your guys help and I
didnt mean to step on anybodies toes!

- -----Original Message-----
From: Gross, Erik [mailto:erik.gross@intel.com]
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2003 12:03 PM
To: Kopsick Michael J Contr WRALC/LJET; Team3S List (E-mail)
Subject: RE: Team3S: Downpipe exhaust Question

> I saw that 3SX offers a replacement, but
> I've noticed no one likes to use these guys
> in this forum.

Huh?  Where'd you get that from?  I've done business with 3SX many times
over the last couple years and never had any problems.  I've also not seen
anything posted publicly  here indicating that anyone else had problems,
resolved or otherwise.  3SX is also listed on the Team3s Good Guys page...

- --Erik
'95 VR-4  www.team3s.com/~egross

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Date: Fri, 30 May 2003 14:37:12 -0400
From: "Furman, Russell" <RFurman2@MassMutual.com>
Subject: Team3S: RE: GT Pro Fuel System :/

Are you sure it wasn't in reference to GT Pro???  There are a few folks on
this list that have no love for that vendor (all for various reasons)
including my self.

My personal biases were again renewed this past couple of weekends, after
installing the GT Pro fuel system (purchased through Dynamic Racing b/c Matt
Monet is the best 3S tuner out there PERIOD) which is just a hack job on the
fuel pump assembly modifications.

Their choice to liberally use JB Weld for a couple KEY fuel delivery
connections inside the tank disappoints and greatly concerns me.  I ended up
having a local guy welding the pieces together that were originally to be JB
welded :/

If I decide to do a second 3S, I will either have AAM alter their fuel
system design to my specifications (internal pump vs AAM's external pump) or
build one myself using the AAM rails.....

Oh yeah if anyone finds a IMMACULATE black 99, or a Amethyst 96 (VR-4's
only) let me know.  This car should be done in a month or so, and I want to
start looking at candidates for the "street weapon" since the 93 is getting
placed into daily driver duty.

- -----Original Message-----
From: Kopsick Michael J Contr WRALC/LJET
[mailto:Michael.Kopsick@robins.af.mil]
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2003 2:22 PM
To: 'Gross, Erik'; Kopsick Michael J Contr WRALC/LJET; Team3S List
(E-mail)
Subject: RE: Team3S: Downpipe exhaust Question

OK I saw a post here a few days ago that said it didnt like to mention
3SX...I'm new to these cars and this forum so I took it something wasnt
right with them.  My apologizes....I'm learning......  If anyone has
questions about Conquest TSi's then I can help ya...I have a show car TSi
and have recently moved up to the 3000...Thanks for all your guys help and I
didnt mean to step on anybodies toes!

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Date: Fri, 30 May 2003 19:38:02 -0000
From: "Jeff Lucius" <jlucius@stealth316.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Datalogger

As far as I know, Tunerstein is out of the DSM/3S datalogger business. They have offered their software for free, including source code. I downloaded it and it is available at my web site in the following two files.

http://www.stealth316.com/misc/tunerstein.zip (1+ MB)
http://www.stealth316.com/misc/snjrt30.exe  (~9 MB)

I have not used it, but from comments of users on 3si it is worth every penny you pay for it, assuming you got it for free. There are several ECU parameters that are not reported properly, including fuel trims. They say it is also a pain to use and crashes. Why buy software that works poorly, reports incorrect values, has no customer support, and no chance for corrections or improvements?

PocketLOGGER is probably the best datalogger software going these days. There is also a fellow on 3si, shriver something, that has made and sells a datalogger cable (I think he says it doesn't need a power wire) and is putting together software. Do a search there for more info.

Jeff Lucius, http://www.stealth316.com/

- ---------- Original Message -------------
Subject: Re: Team3S: Datalogger
Date: Fri, 30 May 2003 11:52:51 -0400
From: "Gene Calarco" <gac@clifton.ds.adp.com>
To: "Team3S" <Team3S@team3s.com>

I believe the price seems to range from 45.00 to 60.00 for the cable and
software.  I will most likely purchase it and give it a shot for that price.
Most of the feedback I'm seeing is positive on the software.

Eugene

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Date: Fri, 30 May 2003 15:48:14 -0400
From: "Jack" <whutzdat@adelphia.net>
Subject: Fw: Team3S: Gathering

- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Jack" <whutzdat@adelphia.net>
To: <Team3S@team3s.com>
Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2003 2:24 PM
Subject: Team3S: Gathering

> Id like some help as to  when the gathering is going to be held on Cape
Cod.
> I know there is a site for this but just can't seem to find it. Any help
> will be greatly appreciated..  Would like to make reservations for this
> now.. Is there a certain place everyone is going to stay.
>
>                                                                Jack

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Date: Fri, 30 May 2003 16:50:11 -0400
From: Kopsick Michael J Contr WRALC/LJET <Michael.Kopsick@robins.af.mil>
Subject: Team3S: Stereo CODE ASAP!  help!

Ok guys one more problem...had the battery disconnected for more than an
hour on my 1994 SL and now it needs a code to turn the stereo back on....No
one wrote down the code in the owners manual.  Some one told me to take out
the radio, which i have done , and that the code in on the bottom of
it...they said they saw this done at a stereo shop.  I see lots of numbers
but no 4 digit one that it requires...HELP HELP!!!

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Date: Fri, 30 May 2003 20:54:04 +0000
From: mjannusch@attbi.com
Subject: Re: Team3S: Stereo CODE ASAP!  help!

> I see lots of numbers but no 4 digit one that
> it requires...HELP HELP!!!

The code itself won't be on the radio.  You need the serial number from the tag
on the upper left corner of the radio, then give the serial number to the
dealer and they can give you the correct code.  Some dealers are dinks and make
you pay for the code - good dealers won't.

- -Matt
'95 3000GT Spyder VR4

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Date: Fri, 30 May 2003 15:51:15 -0500
From: "Steve" <denon11@insightbb.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Stereo CODE ASAP!  help!

You will have to contact the dealer nearest you
and provide the Ser# off the radio.

Steve

- -----Original Message-----
From: owner-team3s@team3s.com [mailto:owner-team3s@team3s.com]On Behalf
Of Kopsick Michael J Contr WRALC/LJET
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2003 3:50 PM
To: 'Team3S (E-mail)
Subject: Team3S: Stereo CODE ASAP! help!

Ok guys one more problem...had the battery disconnected for more than an
hour on my 1994 SL and now it needs a code to turn the stereo back on....No
one wrote down the code in the owners manual.  Some one told me to take out
the radio, which i have done , and that the code in on the bottom of
it...they said they saw this done at a stereo shop.  I see lots of numbers
but no 4 digit one that it requires...HELP HELP!!!

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Date: Fri, 30 May 2003 14:55:33 -0600
From: "Labonte, Dan" <DLabonte@SturmanIndustries.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Stereo CODE ASAP!  help!

There is an 8 digit serial number on the radio.  You will have to call a
dealer and give them this number to get the code.  Had the same thing
happen to my Saab once.

Dan

- -----Original Message-----
From: Kopsick Michael J Contr WRALC/LJET
[mailto:Michael.Kopsick@robins.af.mil]
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2003 2:50 PM
To: 'Team3S (E-mail)
Subject: Team3S: Stereo CODE ASAP! help!

Ok guys one more problem...had the battery disconnected for more than an
hour on my 1994 SL and now it needs a code to turn the stereo back
on....No
one wrote down the code in the owners manual.  Some one told me to take
out
the radio, which i have done , and that the code in on the bottom of
it...they said they saw this done at a stereo shop.  I see lots of
numbers
but no 4 digit one that it requires...HELP HELP!!!

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Date: Fri, 30 May 2003 16:16:21 -0700
From: "Bob Forrest" <bf@bobforrest.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Datalogger

- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeff Lucius" <jlucius@stealth316.com>
> PocketLOGGER is probably the best datalogger software going these days.
There is also a fellow on 3si, shriver something, that has made and sells a
datalogger cable (I think he says it doesn't need a power wire) and is putting
together software. Do a search there for more info.
- --------------------------->

The guy you're speaking of is Chris Dooley, and he's listed on the Team3S
"Good Guys" page, since he gives discounts to our members...  He has cables
for palms and laptops, complete or as kits - and he hand-tests each one.  He's
working on a new version of the software to get rid of some glitches (like the
fact that it won't work fully on my P3 laptop, or Rick's...).  Jeff, you're SO
right about Tunerstein - it isn't very good.  Now that it's free, it's worth
every penny.  :-)
Find Chris' info here: www.Team3S.com/FAQgoodguys.htm

Best,

Forrest

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Date: Fri, 30 May 2003 16:29:54 -0700
From: John Sheehan <johns@kyso.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Datalogger

Chris is great to deal with !!! Very good quality, fully tested and fast
service! He has a cable for both a Palm and a Laptop.
                       John

>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Jeff Lucius" <jlucius@stealth316.com>
>>PocketLOGGER is probably the best datalogger software going these days.
>There is also a fellow on 3si, shriver something, that has made and sells a
>datalogger cable (I think he says it doesn't need a power wire) and is putting
>together software. Do a search there for more info.
>--------------------------->
Bob Forrest wrote:
>The guy you're speaking of is Chris Dooley, and he's listed on the Team3S
>"Good Guys" page, since he gives discounts to our members...  He has cables
>for palms and laptops, complete or as kits - and he hand-tests each one.  He's
>working on a new version of the software to get rid of some glitches (like the
>fact that it won't work fully on my P3 laptop, or Rick's...).  Jeff, you're SO
>right about Tunerstein - it isn't very good.  Now that it's free, it's worth
>every penny.  :-)
>Find Chris' info here: www.Team3S.com/FAQgoodguys.htm
>
>Best,
>
>Forrest

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Date: Sat, 31 May 2003 00:09:20 -0400
From: "Darren Schilberg" <dschilberg@spamcop.net>
Subject: Team3S: RE: Front exhaust manifold

I finally got the replacement front exhaust manifold fully installed.  I'll
be making notes and gathering some pictures from the video I shot (in lieu
of misplaced digital camera).  Much easier to put back since I knew where
all the bolts/nuts were and how to get to them.

Regarding the front turbo - can someone give me some details as to how the
turbo is assembled?  There seems to be a "snap ring" of some sort but I
didn't see how it easily came apart so I didn't touch it.  However, can this
"snap ring" slide off of the lip to which it is attached?  I don't know if I
pulled the turbo in this direction and separated it slightly and noticed
some smoke from that area and didn't want to have a leak in the connections.
The smoke is also the WD-40 and other penetrant fluids smoking off so I
thought I'd ask anyway.

In case I never get the write-up done, here are the tools necessary: 19mm,
17mm, 14mm, 12mm, and 10mm sockets; universal joint; medium extension (4" -
6"); long extension (8" - 10"); pliers; ratchet; breaker bar.  In about 4
places you will need either a 3/8" drive item or a 1/4" drive item (the two
14mm nuts on the lower left and right of the manifold, the two 12 mm nuts
holding the intercooler pipe's metal "through" tube to the front valve
cover, and the one 14mm bolt on the back side of the flange where the
manifold mates to the turbo - my 1/2" drive sockets and universal joint were
too big for these area so I had to get creative since I didn't have a 3/8"
drive socket set around.  Those folks without turbos can skip much of the
above notes.

All manifold nuts are 14mm, all downpipe/exhaust nuts are 19mm, all flange
bolts are 14mm, all intercooler pipe hose clamps are 10mm, all radiator
locating bolts are 12mm, the oil supply line to the top of the turbo is
17mm, the water supply line to the front of the turbo is 19mm, the oil
dipstick can be bent out of the way and does not need to be removed
(although its 12mm bolt is easy to get to once you know where it is).
That's it for now in case someone was dying to tackle this before the
weekend got started.  Don't forget to plan ahead and get a manifold gasket
or even a manifold-to-turbo gasket if you want.

- --Flash!

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Date: Sat, 31 May 2003 09:28:11 -0500
From: "Matt Jannusch" <mjannusch@attbi.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: RE: Front exhaust manifold

> Regarding the front turbo - can someone give me some details as to how the
> turbo is assembled?  There seems to be a "snap ring" of some sort but I
> didn't see how it easily came apart so I didn't touch it.  However, can
this
> "snap ring" slide off of the lip to which it is attached?  I don't know if
I
> pulled the turbo in this direction and separated it slightly and noticed
> some smoke from that area and didn't want to have a leak in the
> connections.

The ring is held together on one side with a short bolt and locking nut.  If
you take that apart, the ring will come off the turbo, and if you take the
cotter pin off the wastegate actuator arm, you can pull the two halves of
the turbo apart.  The ring shouldn't be able to slide off on its own, but it
doesn't "seal" the turbo up - it just holds the two halves in place.  If you
got some oil or grease from your hands on the turbo and/or manifold, it'll
smoke like crazy until it burns off - no big deal, and nothing to worry
about.

- -Matt
'95 3000GT Spyder VR4

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