Team3S: 3000GT & Stealth     Friday, May 23 2003     Volume 02 : Number 162
 
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Date: Thu, 22 May 2003 19:57:43 -0400
From: "Gil Gomes" <gil@3kgt.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Taking drivers seat out???
 
Ummm.... Four bolts and two wiring harnesses...
- -G
 
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Date: Thu, 22 May 2003 17:23:30 -0700
From: "fastmax" <fastmax@cox.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Taking drivers seat out???
 
only if he can get at the bolts --- hooking the battery back up is not an option ???
 
        Jim Berry
 
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Date: Thu, 22 May 2003 17:38:23 -0700 (PDT)
From: chfmn@webtv.net (Walter Womack)
Subject: Team3S: Keeping cool
 
Anyone have an opinion about Redline's Water Wetter?
 
92 RTTT Pearl White
 
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Date: Thu, 22 May 2003 19:39:42 -0500 (CDT)
From: Geoff Mohler <gemohler@www.speedtoys.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Keeping cool
 
Works great if you want more efficiency out of the system as a whole, it will NOT solve an existing overheating problem.
 
If you are overheating, you have a physical issue..either in bad hardware, or too much HP for the hardware currently in use.
 
- ---
Now offering replacement Toyota/Audi/BMW/Mercedes/Porsche/SAAB/Volvo parts Where do you buy YOUR brakes from? orders@speedtoys.com  Maybe I can help..asking is free.  :) "If its in stock, we have it!"
 
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Date: Thu, 22 May 2003 17:41:28 -0700
From: "Grd4Spd Racing" <grd4spdracing@cox.net>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Keeping cool
 
> Anyone have an opinion about Redline's Water Wetter?
 
dropped my temp gauge a "notch".
 
regards,
terry
 
"If it doesn't make you go fast, we don't sell it"
Grd4Spd Racing - www.grd4spd.com
 
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Date: Thu, 22 May 2003 17:54:04 -0700 (PDT)
From: chfmn@webtv.net (Walter Womack)
Subject: Team3S: Keeping cool
 
Thanks for the feedback on "Water Wetter".Have not had any cooling problems and want to keep it that way.Getting hot here in Las Vegas and even 1 notch down couldn't hurt.
 
92 RTTT Pearl White
 
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Date: Thu, 22 May 2003 18:05:01 -0700 (PDT)
From: chfmn@webtv.net (Walter Womack)
Subject: Team3S: Keeping cool
 
Yep,right around 50 degrees,just mainly concerned about hot spots in heads and near gaskets.These turbos run hot.Anybody running "cool air intakes"?
 
92 RTTT Pearl White
 
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Date: Thu, 22 May 2003 21:30:13 -0400
From: "Marven Lamarre" <neoblackjack21@earthlink.net>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Need a new turning light.
 
I got my replacements on eBay. The same thing happened to me.
 
Good Luck
 
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Date: Thu, 22 May 2003 21:30:22 -0400
From: "Philip V. Glazatov" <philip@supercar-engineering.com>
Subject: Team3S: Re: 3S-Racers: A/D Converter?
 
At 01:51 PM 5/22/2003, Gross, Erik wrote:
>In case anyone cares, what I want to make is a bar-graph that displays
>throttle position and mount it on my dash when I go to the track.  I'd
>make it big/bright enough to be visible in my in-car video, and my
>intention is to be able to learn more about my driving skills (or lack
>thereof) by reviewing the videos.  Kinda like the stuff they use at
>Skip Barber, only less high-tech :-)
 
I would buy two resistors, build a voltage divider out of them to transform
0-5V into 0-1V, and then hook the output to a bar graph O2 gauge. :-)
 
Philip
http://supercar-engineering.com
Philip
http://supercar-engineering.com
 
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Date: Thu, 22 May 2003 21:20:53 -0500
From: "Matt Jannusch" <mjannusch@attbi.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Taking drivers seat out???
 
> only if he can get at the bolts --- hooking the battery
> back up is not an option ???
 
Jim's right - it'd be very tough to get the seat out without powering it up and moving it forward to expose the rear bolts.  Probably the best bet would be to hotwire the seat to a 12V battery with jumper wires and then move it forward.  I'd have to look at the wiring diagrams to see which of the wires are power/ground.
 
- -Matt
'95 3000GT Spyder VR4
 
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Date: Thu, 22 May 2003 22:52:56 -0400
From: "B Koditek" <koditek@attbi.com>
Subject: Team3S: Exchange of Body Parts
 
Anybody know if a 2nd generation nose (vr4) can be used in place of a 1st generation nose (vr4) on a 1st generation vehicle (vr4)?  I realize electrically there are issues, but mechanically is it a simple fit? Anyone do it, and if so what problems were encountered.
 
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Date: Thu, 22 May 2003 22:01:45 -0500
From: "cody" <overclck@satx.rr.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Exchange of Body Parts
 
You only have to change
 
The hood
The headlights
The turn signals
The actual bumper
Cut and trim the headlight buckets
Fabricate brackets to hold the new headlights
Build headlight wiring harnesses
 
I've done it, it's not fun, quickly, or easy...
 
- -Cody
 
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Date: Thu, 22 May 2003 22:59:45 -0500
From: Jon Paine <ppainej@attglobal.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Taking drivers seat out???
 
On page 52a-18 of the shop manual there's a procedure for removing the
seat 'when there is a malfunction'. that would probably work. There
are some illustrations; I can't scan them. Sorry. Maybe someone with a
scanner?
 
Jon Paine
 
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Date: Thu, 22 May 2003 23:12:49 -0500 (CDT)
From: Geoff Mohler <gemohler@www.speedtoys.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Keeping cool
 
I was actually kidding.
 
It wont really cool you down -50- degrees..
 
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Date: Fri, 23 May 2003 08:57:18 +0200
From: "Gebelius Mats" <Mats.Gebelius@dotcom.se>
Subject: Team3S: Need a new turning light.
 
Hi again.
 
Just want to thank you all for trying to help me.
I'm really amazed what a response I got from you guys.
I just got word from a friend who got hold of a light for me. He's sending it to Sweden with a mutual friend that is going here, so everything seems to be working out just fine for me.
 
Thanks to you all.
 
/Mats
 
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Date: Fri, 23 May 2003 06:14:25 -0500
From: "Charles J. Williams" <charlesw72@houston.rr.com>
Subject: FW: Team3S: Keyless Entry Parts
 
If nobody knows where to get parts for the keyless entry, how about getting a new one?
 
Charles
 
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Date: Fri, 23 May 2003 08:43:15 -0500
From: "Patrick Purviance" <purdaddy@associatedsys.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Keyless Entry Parts
 
I've found it very hard to locate new, or even used, keyless entry remotes for my 2nd gen.  So we're in the same boat.  I see 1st gen ones on eBay and parts forums every once in a while, but never 2nd gen ones.  Bummer, cause I'd love to be able to use the keyless entry.  I did hear that you could get them from a dealer new, but they ran like $80.  I'm not paying that.
 
Does anyone else have any ideas on this?
 
 -Patrick
 
Patrick Purviance
'94 Stealth R/T TT, 61k miles, Open Air Intake, 1g DSM BOV,  Pro Boost MBC, Blitz DATT Wichita, KS
 
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Date: Fri, 23 May 2003 10:09:45 -0400
From: "Danno" <palermod@pilot.msu.edu>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Keyless Entry Parts
 
How about after market??
 
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Date: Fri, 23 May 2003 09:48:50 -0500
From: "Patrick Purviance" <purdaddy@associatedsys.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Keyless Entry Parts
 
Wouldn't that effect the factory security system? Well, maybe not.  I guess as long as the door gets unlocked, that's all the security system/alarm is looking for.  Or is the fact that the key is inserted and does it?  I guess I'd have to go back to the user's manual, cause for some reason I think that an aftermarket system would not "unarm" the factory security system like a factory keyless entry would.  Again, it might just be the fact the door locks physically.  If that's the case, I suppose aftermarket would be ok.  I just didn't want to have to deal with disabling the factory stuff and putting on a full aftermarket alarm.  I don't see the point in a stand-alone aftermarket keyless entry solution.
 
 -Patrick
 
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Date: Fri, 23 May 2003 09:57:15 -0500
From: "Geisel, Brian" <brian.geisel@hp.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Keyless Entry Parts
 
I got a keyless entry / remote starter for like $60.  It still arms and disarms the factory stuff, I think I just had to tap the wire that the stock keyless entry unit uses.  It is extremely useful for several reasons - 1) I don't care about the silly factory remotes anymore.  2) I now have remote start.  3) The system works from almost 1/4mi away instead of almost 1/4 of a yard.
 
and yes, it is a 6-speed, and yes I did say remote start.
 
geis
 
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Date: Fri, 23 May 2003 10:03:31 -0500
From: "Patrick Purviance" <purdaddy@associatedsys.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Keyless Entry Parts
 
That sounds pretty promising Brian.  Does this unit also serve as an alarm? Do you happen to use a turbo timer?  I'm wondering what effect that would have on the alarm features.  I can search on that.
 
What brand/model is the unit you put on your car?
 
 -Patrick
 
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Date: Fri, 23 May 2003 10:13:24 -0500
From: "Geisel, Brian" <brian.geisel@hp.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Keyless Entry Parts
 
I got it from www.12voltdirect.com.  I think it was the CS324. It has a jumper you remove to set the thing up for remote start of a manual transmission vehicle.  It took me a while to find all the right wires and such, but once I got it all setup it was pretty nice.
 
geis
 
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Date: Fri, 23 May 2003 10:14:18 -0500
From: "Geisel, Brian" <brian.geisel@hp.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Keyless Entry Parts
 
oops ...
 
and I do use a turbo timer, they don't interfere with each other at all.  The one I got does not have its own alarm, it only utilizes the factory unit.  They have some others on there that come with an alarm, but I haven't tried any of them.
 
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Date: Fri, 23 May 2003 11:37:49 -0400
From: Rod2414738@aol.com
Subject: RE: Team3S: Keyless Entry Parts
 
I have an aftermarket alarm on my '93 Stealth TT because when I bought it, it did not come with the factory remotes.  I have an AutoPage RF-7000 alarm and did not disable the factory security system.  The two do not interfere as long as I wait until the doors are closed before I arm the alarm.  If I arm the alarm while the door is closing and it locks before closed, then both alarms are armed.  When I disarm the AutoPage using the remote, it unlocks the door, but since the door key switch is not used, the factory alarm does not disarm and therefore the factory alarm goes off.  I have to close the door and unlock it with the key to disarm it then.  I rarely make this mistake, so I haven't investigated how to prevent it yet.  Maybe that will be something I look at this weekend.
 
- -Rod
'93 Stealth R/T TT
 
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Date: Fri, 23 May 2003 10:25:05 -0700 (PDT)
From: Casey Spivey <spiv99@yahoo.com>
Subject: Team3S: data log tuning help needed
 
Is there a website specific for our cars that can help me with tuning using TMO and a laptop? I have a '91 VR-4 with K&N, gutted cats, Borla exhaust, MBC set at 15psi, and plugs set at .034. When I graph accel enrichment and O2 readings they are going crazy. AE goes from 50-100% every two seconds and O2 goes from 0 to 1 volt the same way. Sometimes O2 will stay at 1 volt for a while or 0 volts for a while but there is no pattern to it. Timing at idle is at 25 degrees but the manual says it should be at 15 degrees. Sometimes it will hit about 53 degrees of advance but drops sharply when shifting. I know the BOV is leaking because I can hear it bleeding off the air above 12 PSI. I figured the knock sensor would pick a lot up because of a couple lifters hanging up but there is hardly any knock. The car does have about 165K miles on it. Can anyone help me out? If someone needs more info then just ask. Thanks, Casey
 
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Date: Fri, 23 May 2003 10:47:30 -0700 (PDT)
From: John Christian <jczoom_619@yahoo.com>
Subject: Team3S: Run Watkins Glen cheap
 
Hi Drivers,
 
Anyone interested in running the famous Watkins Glen?
Saturday & Sunday May 24 & 25 is a DE with the ARPCA.
Our car will not be fixed.
 
Normal price is $325.  I have two slots. I'm thinking
$275.  You must be there Saturday AM prior to the 8AM
drivers meeting.
 
http://www.theglen.com/
 
Sooooo disappointed because the Glen is my favorite
track.
 
Email me at JCZooM@iname.com  or phone me at 412
341-4768.
 
Be of good cheer,
John
 
=====
Please respond to jczoom@iname.com
'93 TT with Porsche brakes and Supra TT rotors
12.4@109MPH  5/97 almost stock http://www.geocities.com/jczoom_619
 
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Date: Fri, 23 May 2003 17:50:18 -0000
From: "Jeff Lucius" <jlucius@stealth316.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: data log tuning help needed
 
Casey,
 
The TMO datalogger was developed for DSM engines (4G63). It just happens to work on 1991-1993 3S engines (6G72). Some features, such as Accel Enrichment do not work on our cars. I have made a list of what features work and what don't on my web page below.
 
http://www.stealth316.com/2-tmo3.htm
 
Absolute timing values from the TMO are not correct for our cars. Relative values are still useful. I have been told that the latest version (but not earlier ones) of the PocketLOGGER displays correct timing values for us.
 
I have two sections on the Tech Page at my web site devoted to datalogging. Check out the links there.
 
http://www.stealth316.com/1-tech.htm
 
On my giant Links Page, there is also a section devoted to datalogging, including links to TMO tutorials.
 
http://www.stealth316.com/1-links-t.htm
 
Jeff Lucius, http://www.stealth316.com/
 
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Date: Fri, 23 May 2003 18:43:06 -0700 (PDT)
From: chfmn@webtv.net (Walter Womack)
Subject: Team3S: New member
 
Hey Jim RTTT;you just may be a genius.After your last response I went looking for the vac reservoir and check valve,also took a closer look at the vacuum line to the booster.Not factory.Not plastic lined.Just a regular rubber vac hose that bends too severely, almost to the kink point.I  have the feeling that when vacuum is applied,sometimes the hose may collapse and shut off vac.Have ordered the correct part from a local Mits dealer.Will arrive mid next week.Only time will tell now.Thank you for your sincere help.
 
92 RTTT Pearl White
 
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