Team3S: 3000GT & Stealth   Saturday, April 26 2003   Volume 02 : Number 139
 
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Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 07:47:11 -0500
From: "William J. Crabtree" <wjcrabtree@earthlink.net>
Subject: FW: Team3S: Scan Tools
 
Joseph,
 
 I'm not sure that's entirely true.  I think you can reset SRS codes by disconnecting you battery and leaving it that way for a few hours (like overnight).  I've got a bad sensor on my car that I've neglected to replace yet, and it seems like it takes a few secs for the SRS light to come up after I've had the battery out for a while.  it's worth a shot.
 
- -Jeff Crabtree
 St. Louis, MO
 
- -----Original Message-----
From: Starkey, Jr., Joseph
Sent: Friday, April 25, 2003 7:38 AM
 
I know that.  It's resettable, but only with the scan tool, not with the key trick--which is why I'd like to get my hands on a scan tool that resets SRS fault codes.
 
- -----Original Message-----
From: Roger Gerl [mailto:roger.gerl@bluewin.ch]
Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2003 6:34 PM
 
If it is not resettable then you have a problem with the SRS that always sets a code.
 
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Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 09:31:25 -0600
From: Andrew Findlay <jefind@shaw.ca>
Subject: Team3S: nitrous
 
I recently put a 55hp shot zex dry nitrous system in my car and I've been told by some people I should have my timing adjusted.  But I phoned Zex and they said as long as I stay on the 55hp setting I won't have to.  Any opinions? Is it hard to adjust the timing on our cars?
    Thanks Andrew
 
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Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 09:37:57 -0700
From: "Gross, Erik" <erik.gross@intel.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Data logger for Second Gen
 
I can personally vouch for the '93 engine having the exact same crank and cam angle sensor harnesses and wiring locations as the '95 engines.  Who is working on adapting the '93 ECU to later models and what problems have they come across?  Anyone know?
 
- --Erik
 
Philip wrote:
> In fact there are people out there who are trying to adapt (or maybe
> already successfully adapted) the '93 ECU, which seems to be the best
> of both worlds. It apparently reads the cam and crank signals the same
> way as the 2nd gen ECU's and also talks to Palm Pilots and tells the
> "knock sum".
 
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Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 08:48:34 -0500 (CDT)
From: Chad and Carol Decker <carolnchad@earthlink.net>
Subject: Team3S: Dash Tick
 
Could someone elaborate on this dash tick I have been hearing about? Thanks, Carol Decker 1991 Stealth R/T TT AWD
 
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Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 12:53:09 -0500
From: "Philip Kennedy" <pkennedy@sfigroupinc.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Dash Tick
 
Well I had a dash tick 2 weeks ago. The tick ended up being the travel odometer was stuck. The fix was pushing the reset button.
 
Philip K.
94' 3000GT N/A
 
- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Chad and Carol Decker" <carolnchad@earthlink.net>
Sent: Friday, April 25, 2003 8:48 AM
 
> Could someone elaborate on this dash tick I have been hearing about?
> Thanks, Carol Decker
> 1991 Stealth R/T TT AWD
 
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Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 19:11:36 -0400
From: "Philip V. Glazatov" <gphilip@umich.edu>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Data logger for Second Gen
 
At 12:37 PM 4/25/2003, Gross, Erik wrote:
>I can personally vouch for the '93 engine having the exact same crank
>and cam angle sensor harnesses and wiring locations as the '95 engines. 
>Who is working on adapting the '93 ECU to later models and what
>problems have they come across?  Anyone know?
>
>--Erik
 
Jeff VanOrsdal <jeffv@1nce.com> is working on this. He is (or was on our
list some time ago). Then he wrote some nastygram and I am not sure if he
is around here anymore. He is changing pins and says that it is easy. The
harder part is to connect everything to a 1st gen connector, which you also
need to get. Or, I think, he should be able to wire the TMO or PalmLogger
harness directly into the ECU.
 
I took some cam/crank signals with an oscilloscope from a '93 VR-4 and they
looked exactly the same as the signals from my '95 TT.
 
What is that deal with different cam/crank signals anyway and not using one
of them? It is true or is it some BS?
 
Philip
 
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Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 16:15:09 -0700
From: "fastmax" <fastmax@cox.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Data logger for Second Gen
 
93 is when the 4 bolt engine with the crank angle sensor was introduced. My 93, with a build date of 5/92, has the four bolt mains and forged crank. According to caps The transition to the 4 bolt is 6/92 so mine must be
right at the changeover.
 
        Jim Berry
 
- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Philip V. Glazatov" <gphilip@umich.edu>
Sent: Friday, April 25, 2003 4:11 PM
 
> Jeff VanOrsdal <jeffv@1nce.com> is working on this. He is (or was on
> our list some time ago). Then he wrote some nastygram and I am not sure
> if he is around here anymore. He is changing pins and says that it is
> easy. The harder part is to connect everything to a 1st gen connector,
> which you also need to get. Or, I think, he should be able to wire the
> TMO or PalmLogger harness directly into the ECU.
>
> I took some cam/crank signals with an oscilloscope from a '93 VR-4 and
> they looked exactly the same as the signals from my '95 TT.
>
> What is that deal with different cam/crank signals anyway and not
> using one of them? It is true or is it some BS?
 
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Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2003 01:16:14 -0400
From: "Philip V. Glazatov" <gphilip@umich.edu>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Data logger for Second Gen
 
At 07:15 PM 4/25/2003, fastmax wrote:
>93 is when the 4 bolt engine with the crank angle sensor was
>introduced.
 
So, before '93, there was not crank sensor at all?
 
Philip
 
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Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 22:41:41 -0700
From: "Bob Forrest" <bf@bobforrest.com>
Subject: Team3S: Stripping parts for racing - the "weigh-in"--
 
Sorry about the weird subject line, but the last time we used "weight loss" as part of a thread subject line, some of the dumber anti-spam programs blacklisted us as if we were Jenny Craig or something...
 
Here's part of a note I sent to the list in 7/00 about what certain interior parts weighed.
 
- --Forrest
 
(PS:  If this turns into a lengthy discussion, please do it on the Team3S Racers list...)
 
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As Jeff mentioned earlier, he and Nissa have begun work stripping out every last bit of extraneous weight from their '95 VR-4.  They haven't begun work on the engine bay yet, but have done a pretty complete job of gutting the interior.  I stopped by their place today, to help with the weigh-in, and play documentarian.  If the scale indicator read more than 1/2 lb, we rounded up to the nearest pound; for less than 1/2 lb, we rounded down.  Only the heater and some piping and harnesses remain - we're guesstimating maybe another 100 lbs.  Here's the tally so far:
 
Airbags (2), seat belt trim, dashboard hardware, steering wheel, steering column abs sensor, turn signals, wiper controls, lower left dash, abs computer, accessory switches, driver's side console panel, speedo/tach unit.  44 lbs.
 
Dash pod, visors, center console trim, passenger mat, passenger weatherstripping, defroster director & tubing.  23 lbs.
 
Door hardware(2), hatch headliner, jack, rear speaker enclosure, more seatbelt hardware.  35 lbs.
 
Center console (with misc. bolts, nuts, parts.  12 lbs.
 
Spare tire. 30 lbs.
 
Passenger door trim panel. 18 lbs.
 
Dash shell.  24 lbs.
 
Carpet.  10 lbs.
 
A-pillar, headliner trim, hatch struts.  8 lbs.
 
Hatch trim/wiper/wiper motor washer tank.  12 lbs.
 
Headliner, misc trim.  11 lbs.
 
Rear seats, upper.  20 lbs.
 
Rear seats, lower.  9 lbs.
 
Door glass (2).  24 lbs.
 
Misc rear trim, privacy curtain.  12 lbs.
 
Sunroof assembly.  27 lbs.
 
More carpet.  8 lbs.
 
Passenger seat.  44 lbs.
 
Driver seat.  66 lbs.
 
Trailer hitch. 25 lbs.
 
I'm sure Jeff and Nissa will be adding to the total and posting it on their project site, but, this looks like a damn good start.  My quickie total of the above comes to 462 lbs!
 
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Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2003 02:43:47 -0400
From: "Ken Lovell" <wklovell@yahoo.com>
Subject: Team3S: Alignment, Control Arms and Deer in Headlights
 
Three questions:
 
1.  I've had a problem getting my 1997 VR4 aligned.  According to two different shops, they can't get the rear left wheel into to come into alignment.  They both said that either the upper or lower control arm is slightly bent, but they can't tell which.  I've now had the car to a body shop and they can't find any kind of bend in the arms either.  Does anyone have any suggestions on other directions to look?
 
2. Separately, last week a stupid, idiotic deer jumped in front of me. I wasn't going very fast, but it was enough to have to replace the nose, the hood and the left headlight assembly.  (I literally ended up with pieces of deer in the headlight.)(  It looks like the body absorbed all the damage and nothing internal was touched.  The body shop has everything put back together reasonably well, but the headlights don't seem to be aligned correctly.  Is there a guide somewhere on getting them right?
 
3.  Finally, the new headlight they put in fogged on the inside the first time I drove the car.  The old headlight never fogged.  Is this normal or should I make them replace it again?
 
Thanks,
Ken
 
'97 VR4... Considering taking up deer hunting
 
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Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2003 09:23:29 -0400
From: "Danno" <palermod@pilot.msu.edu>
Subject: Team3S: rotors
 
I've developed a shake when braking from high speeds.  I'm assuming I've got warped front rotors.
 
Is it reasonable to expect that turning the rotors will solve this problem? Is it possible that the rear rotors could contribute to the shake?
 
Thanks!!
 
- - Dan
'95 Black VR4
 
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