Team3S: 3000GT & Stealth   Saturday, April 12 2003   Volume 02 : Number 128
 
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Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 08:22:26 -0500
From: "merritt@cedar-rapids.net" <merritt@cedar-rapids.net>
Subject: RE: Team3S: blows off intake hose
 
Here's another Y-pipe kit:
 
www.drunkenbear.biz (scroll down -- it's the last item)
 
Rich/slow old poop
 
At 09:13 AM 4/11/03 -0400, Starkey, Jr., Joseph wrote:
>Are you talking about the Y-Pipe?  There is a TON of information about
>this in the archives.  First, you can't buy the gasket separately from
>the Y-Pipe.  Second, the factory Y-Pipe is like $100.  Third, there are
>several aftermarket options.  I have the DN Performance Y-Pipe (and
>hardpipe kit, and turbo intake kit).  Search the archives--you'll find
>a lot of info.
 
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Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 12:34:26 -0400
From: songsay@cs.com
Subject: Team3S: inside the engine
 
Well Dave and Darren,
 
Much much thanks go out to you for giving some insight, after some research I have found that the rod bearings and main bearings need replacement, it isn't to the point where the crank is toast, but I will have that done as well. It was definitely shards of copper, visible pieces that just make your heart sink. No evidence to where they are from, but I have never had experience flushing the oil cooler, what is the procedure, or where can I look up the info? I am still waiting for shipment of a tranny as well, so I will have it all pulled hopefully this weekend, I am so glad that it has warmed up, I even have new tires, it only took two days from Indiana to Alaska, wow to Tom Hanks, oh wait that was only a movie. One more question. Where should the oil pressure be while the car is running? I don't think I am getting as much pressure as I used to, I am wondering if that led to less lubrication down in the bearings.
 
                         songsay  92 vr
 
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Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 13:04:20 -0400
From: "Furman, Russell" <RFurman2@MassMutual.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: inside the engine
 
Songsay how many miles on your car?  IMHO when our cars go in for a 120K service the oil pump should be replaced.  But I have been told I am an Anal little p****  :p
 
Russ F
CT
 
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Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 10:53:10 -0700
From: "Geddes, Brian J" <brian.j.geddes@intel.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: inside the engine
 
What's the ballpark cost of the oil pump? 
 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Furman, Russell [mailto:RFurman2@MassMutual.com]
> Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003 10:04 AM
>
> Songsay how many miles on your car?  IMHO when our cars go in for a
> 120K service the oil pump should be replaced.  But I have been told I
> am an anal little p****  :p
 
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Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 13:57:57 -0400
From: "Furman, Russell" <RFurman2@MassMutual.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: inside the engine
 
Not sure but if you are replacing the timing belt I believe it is like 4 additional bolts to get it out then cost of parts....
 
Russ F
CT
 
- -----Original Message-----
From: Geddes, Brian J [mailto:brian.j.geddes@intel.com]
Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003 1:53 PM
 
What's the ballpark cost of the oil pump? 
 
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Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 13:19:01 -0500
From: "Todd D Shelton" <tds@brightok.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Wild Blue ignition has been fixed!
 
Jeff,
 
I was talking with the owner of the shop yesterday and he said they ended up taking it to a Mitsu tech they knew and he said there have been a lot of problems on older 3S wiring harnesses due to cracking and corrosion.  On Chris' car a ground wire that attaches to the frame rail coming from the harness he specified was broken.
 
- - tds
 
- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeff Lucius" <jlucius@stealth316.com>
Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2003 5:28 PM
 
> OK Chris, I'll bite. Since there is no grounding location under the
> air filter (unless you mean the one on the transaxle), what was
> really wrong with your car? :)
>
> Jeff Lucius, http://www.stealth316.com/
 
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Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 18:54:05 +0000
From: mjannusch@attbi.com
Subject: RE: Team3S: inside the engine
 
> Not sure but if you are replacing the timing
> belt I believe it is like 4 additional bolts
> to get it out then cost of parts....
 
Its a little more than that, unfortunately.
 
Remove downpipe
Remove oil cooler lines from filter assy.
Remove filter fitting "thing" from pump
Remove oil return lines from oilpan
Cut gasket-goop all the way around oilpan
Remove oilpan
Remove oil pickup tube
 
Then you can get the oil pump out.  Reverse to reinstall.
 
There's probably a few other things I forgot.
 
- -Matt
'95 3000GT Spyder VR4
 
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Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 11:07:44 -0700
From: "Geddes, Brian J" <brian.j.geddes@intel.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: inside the engine
 
I'm already pulling my engine in the near future to replace a TON of stuff...I was actually wondering about the cost of the part.  :)
 
- - Brian
 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Furman, Russell [mailto:RFurman2@MassMutual.com]
> Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003 10:58 AM
>
> Not sure but if you are replacing the timing belt I believe it is like
> 4 additional bolts to get it out then cost of parts....
>
> Russ F
> CT
 
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Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 15:00:52 -0400
From: "Furman, Russell" <RFurman2@MassMutual.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: inside the engine
 
I would try any of the good guy vendors listed on the FAQ pages.....
 
Russ
 
- -----Original Message-----
From: Geddes, Brian J [mailto:brian.j.geddes@intel.com]
Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003 2:08 PM
 
I'm already pulling my engine in the near future to replace a TON of stuff...I was actually wondering about the cost of the part.  :)
 
- - Brian
 
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Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 12:05:35 -0700
From: "James Mutton" <james@playstream.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: inside the engine
 
Pretty sure its:
MD190982
$249.47 From Norco
 
- -James
95 Green VR4
 
- -----Original Message-----
From: Geddes, Brian J [mailto:brian.j.geddes@intel.com]
Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003 2:08 PM
 
I'm already pulling my engine in the near future to replace a TON of stuff...I was actually wondering about the cost of the part.  :)
 
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Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 11:55:22 -0700
From: "fastmax" <fastmax@cox.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S: inside the engine
 
Oil pump assembly is $160 or so --- I think you can also buy the rotors separately but I think they're about $90.
 
        Jim Berry ==============================================
 
- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Geddes, Brian J" <brian.j.geddes@intel.com>
Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003 11:07 AM
 
> I'm already pulling my engine in the near future to replace a TON of
> stuff...I was actually wondering about the cost of the part. :)
 
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Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 14:19:16 -0500 (CDT)
From: Geoff Mohler <gemohler@www.speedtoys.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Wild Blue ignition has been fixed!
 
That's called age.
 
On Fri, 11 Apr 2003, Todd D Shelton wrote:
 
> Jeff,
>
> I was talking with the owner of the shop yesterday and he said they
> ended up taking it to a Mitsu tech they knew and he said there have
> been a lot of problems on older 3S wiring harnesses due to cracking
> and corrosion.  On Chris' car a ground wire that attaches to the frame
> rail coming from the harness he specified was broken.
 
- ---
   **Now offering replacement Audi/BMW/Mercedes/Porsche/SAAB/Volvo parts!**
 
Where do you buy YOUR brakes from?
orders@speedtoys.com  Maybe I can help..asking is free.  :)
 
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Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 14:10:19 -0700
From: "fastmax" <fastmax@cox.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S: inside the engine
 
Right part number but Rockville shows $154
 
        Jim Berry
 
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- ----- Original Message -----
From: "James Mutton" <james@playstream.com>
 
> Pretty sure its:
> MD190982
> $249.47 From Norco
 
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Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 14:37:27 -0700
From: "Geddes, Brian J" <brian.j.geddes@intel.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: inside the engine
 
I like $154 a lot better than $250.  My engine's got 95k, so doing the oil pump probably would be a good idea.
 
Although, how often do we see oil pump problems?  I can't recall hearing about very many - it always seems to be the water pump.  My oil pressure (stock gauge, I know) is very good.  I wonder if it's worth the $150 to do it?
 
- - Brian
 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: fastmax [mailto:fastmax@cox.net]
> Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003 2:10 PM
>
> Right part number but Rockville shows $154
 
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Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 15:22:33 -0700
From: "fastmax" <fastmax@cox.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S: inside the engine
 
If you're rebuilding your engine --- absolutely --- lots of stories about spun rod bearings which 'may' be caused by reduced oil flow.
 
Jim Berry =======================================================
 
- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Geddes, Brian J" <brian.j.geddes@intel.com>
Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003 2:37 PM
 
> I like $154 a lot better than $250.  My engine's got 95k, so doing the
> oil pump probably would be a good idea.
>
> Although, how often do we see oil pump problems?  I can't recall
> hearing about very many - it always seems to be the water pump.
> My oil pressure (stock gauge, I know) is very good.  I wonder
> if it's worth the $150 to do it?
 
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Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 16:02:58 -0700
From: "Geddes, Brian J" <brian.j.geddes@intel.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: inside the engine
 
I'm not rebuilding, just pulling to replace a slough of things:  engine mounts, turbos, exhaust manifolds, clutch, cams, 60K service.  I suppose at $150 it makes sense to do it. 
 
- - Brian
 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: fastmax [mailto:fastmax@cox.net]
> Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003 3:23 PM
>
> If you're rebuilding your engine --- absolutely --- lots of stories
> about spun rod  bearings which 'may' be caused by reduced oil flow.
>
> Jim Berry =======================================================
 
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Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 18:52:48 -0700
From: "Trevor James" <trevorlj@cox.net>
Subject: Team3S: 3 1/2 minute video of my Stealth...
 
Figured I would send this you guy's way since alot of the reason my car does so well is from what I learned early here on the Team list.
 
http://members.cox.net/trevmov/Stealth.wmv
 
Hope you old guys like it heavy. LOL!
 
Trevor
96 R/T TT
Sorta Fast...
 
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Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2003 10:16:52 -0400
From: "Richard Bradwell" <bradrs@attglobal.net>
Subject: Team3S: Searching for a Transfer Assembly and Transaxle Assembly in Canada or US
 
REF :- Transfer assembly / Transaxle - source for a remanufactured units.
 
Folks,
 
This is my first message posted to the group. Pity it's not under better circumstances, but I have a rather sick Stealth.  ( 93 AWD Twin Turbo )
 
Would anyone have any views or recommendations on sourcing a good quality transfer assembly and transaxle unit, ( or any advice on the subject area
would be welcome ).   My car is with a Dodge Dealer in Michigan, but I live
in Windsor, Ontario, Canada. The car has been with the dealer two weeks while they obtained new clutch parts, only to find it was more serious.  (
sound familiar )    Upshot is, what seemed to be a clutch failure, is
actually more serious and I need to replace the Transfer Assembly and Transaxle Assembly, as I have sheared off various teeth on shafts between the two units.  I always had a bit of a nasty 'thud' when changing gears, now I know what it was ( wear and excessive play in the interconnection between the two).
 
Basically, I am trying to get my head round the whole transmission replacement / 2nd hand / reconditioned unit market, and trying not to get stuck with a lemon.
 
As you can imagine, I am running up the bill from hell at this Dodge dealer, so I want to make sure I put a good quality used part in, and not a piece of old junk.
 
Any help appreciated. I live in hope of a better day. ( By the way, if anyone in Windsor or Detroit knows a good place to get Stealth's serviced please do tell, all the ones I have found so far are far from impressive.)
 
Richard.
Stealth AWD Twin T 1993
In Windsor, Ontario, Canada.
 
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