Team3S: 3000GT & Stealth   Wednesday, March 12 2003   Volume 02 : Number 102




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Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 20:13:44 -0800 (PST)
From: Ivan & Pat Portilla <lportil@yahoo.com>
Subject: Team3S: AC control head

Has anyone had trouble with the AC controll head (display)?
Mine works properly but the light (back lighted?) does not function and
hence I am not able to "see" the temperature or any other settings.
Heats and cools properly.
There are some aftermarket places that state they will "refurbish" it but
not sure they know what they are talking about.
Any help?
How much should it cost for repair/refurbish

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Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 00:21:40 -0500
From: "Omar Malik" <ojm@iname.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: results of transfer case recall X2

One of the local guys actually got back a check from Mitsubishi after
showing them his bill of repair after a transfer case failure, upgraded to a
six speed in his 93. He got everything he paid for the service back from
them.

Omar

- -----Original Message-----
From: owner-team3s@team3s.com [mailto:owner-team3s@team3s.com] On Behalf Of
Patrick Purviance
Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 3:28 PM
To: Willis, Charles E.; team3S@team3s.com
Subject: RE: Team3S: results of transfer case recall X2

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-team3s@team3s.com [mailto:owner-team3s@team3s.com]On Behalf
>
> They replaced the seals on the transfer case.  Funny
> thing is that this was the one I paid $350 to have the seals
> replaced when I replaced the clutch about a year and a half ago.
> I had been hoping they would say it was alright so I could get my
> $350 back from Mitsubishi!  Heck, I'm just glad to have a
> non-leaking transfer case.


Once long ago, I had replaced the fuel rails on a '93 Chrysler Concorde that
subsequently were recalled a month or so after I had paid almost $600 to
have it done.  When the recall was issued, I contacted Chrysler and they
said that because I had paid for the first, they would reimburse me.  And
because the first would have been done with the same faulty parts, they'd do
recall as well.  So I got my money back and got the recall done.

Not sure if this transfer case recall is on par since the parts may not be
new designs, but it still may be worth your effort to give Mistu a call and
find out.

Good luck!

Patrick Purviance
'94 Stealth R/T TT, 59k miles, Open Air Intake, 1g DSM BOV, Blitz DATT
Wichita, KS

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Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 23:52:04 -0800
From: "Joel Singh" <joelsingh@primus.com.au>
Subject: Team3S: ECS

I've just fitted new struts with lowered springs to my vehicle. The
tour/sport display in the dash is flashing as I've fitted non ECS structs to
the front.
How could I stop this display from flashing.
Thanks, for all your help.
92 GTO twin turbo.

Joel Singh.

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Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 08:59:32 -0600
From: "cody" <overclck@satx.rr.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: ECS

Remove the gauges, and pull out the lights...

- -Cody

- -----Original Message-----
From: owner-team3s@team3s.com [mailto:owner-team3s@team3s.com] On Behalf
Of Joel Singh
Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 1:52 AM
To: Team3S@Stealth-3000GT.st
Subject: Team3S: ECS

I've just fitted new struts with lowered springs to my vehicle. The
tour/sport display in the dash is flashing as I've fitted non ECS
structs to
the front.
How could I stop this display from flashing.
Thanks, for all your help.
92 GTO twin turbo.

Joel Singh.

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Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 09:02:49 -0600
From: "Willis, Charles E." <cewillis@TexasChildrensHospital.org>
Subject: RE: Team3S: ECS

or just wait until the light burns itself out ...

Chuck Willis
(reformed ECS flasher)

- -----Original Message-----
From: cody [mailto:overclck@satx.rr.com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 9:00 AM
To: 'Joel Singh'; Team3S@Stealth-3000GT.st
Subject: RE: Team3S: ECS


Remove the gauges, and pull out the lights...

- -Cody

- -----Original Message-----
From: owner-team3s@team3s.com [mailto:owner-team3s@team3s.com] On Behalf
Of Joel Singh
Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 1:52 AM
To: Team3S@Stealth-3000GT.st
Subject: Team3S: ECS

I've just fitted new struts with lowered springs to my vehicle. The
tour/sport display in the dash is flashing as I've fitted non ECS
structs to
the front.
How could I stop this display from flashing.

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Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 10:06:58 -0500
From: "Furman, Russell" <RFurman2@MassMutual.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: ECS

Or better yet look in the service manual and determine which two wires need
to be jumped together to stop the flashing...........

Russ F
CT

>>or just wait until the light burns itself out ...

>>Chuck Willis
>>(reformed ECS flasher)


>Remove the gauges, and pull out the lights...

>-Cody


I've just fitted new struts with lowered springs to my vehicle. The
tour/sport display in the dash is flashing as I've fitted non ECS
structs to
the front.
How could I stop this display from flashing.

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Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 07:58:15 -0800
From: "fastmax" <fastmax@cox.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S: ECS

I removed the connector to the ECS computer at the right rear of
the car but I had some of the panels out at the time --- I'm not sure
just which panels or trays need to be removed but the book would
show.

        Jim Berry
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- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Joel Singh" <joelsingh@primus.com.au>
To: <Team3S@Stealth-3000GT.st>
Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 11:52 PM
Subject: Team3S: ECS


> I've just fitted new struts with lowered springs to my vehicle. The
> tour/sport display in the dash is flashing as I've fitted non ECS structs to
> the front.
> How could I stop this display from flashing.
> Thanks, for all your help.
> 92 GTO twin turbo.
>
> Joel Singh.

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Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 23:43:12 +0100
From: Andrzej Artymowicz <andrzej.artymowicz@wp.pl>
Subject: Team3S: brake upgrade

Hi!

I'm planning to upgrade my brakes in '95 base 3000GT to 2nd generation
rotors. Do I need to buy only 2nd generation calipers, rotors and pads?
With no other modifications?

Can I use my 16'' stock and 17'' (chome from SL) wheels with 2nd gen
calipers?

I thinking about portfield cryo rotors, R4S pads and regular 2nd gen
calipers.
It's for street, highway use.

Where can I get cheapest brakes

thanks for suggestions

andrzej artymowicz


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Andrzej Artymowicz
Mikolajczyka 12 m 91
03-984 Warszawa
POLAND
andrzej.artymowicz@wp.pl
(+48 22) 6715375
(+48 601) 250368
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Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 00:05:01 +0100
From: Andrzej Artymowicz <andrzej.artymowicz@wp.pl>
Subject: Team3S: brake upgrade

Hi!

I'm planning to upgrade my brakes in '95 base 3000GT to 2nd generation
rotors. Do I need to buy only 2nd generation calipers, rotors and pads?
With no other modifications?

Can I use my 16'' stock and 17'' (chome from SL) wheels with 2nd gen
calipers?

I thinking about portfield cryo rotors, R4S pads and regular 2nd gen
calipers.
It's for street, highway use.

Where can I get cheapest brakes

thanks for suggestions

andrzej artymowicz

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Andrzej Artymowicz
Mikolajczyka 12 m 91
03-984 Warszawa
POLAND
andrzej.artymowicz@wp.pl
(+48 22) 6715375
(+48 601) 250368
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Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 00:07:41 +0100
From: Andrzej Artymowicz <andrzej.artymowicz@wp.pl>
Subject: Team3S: brake upgrade

Hi!

I'm planning to upgrade my brakes in '95 base 3000GT to 2nd generation
rotors. Do I need to buy only 2nd generation calipers, rotors and pads?
With no other modifications?

Can I use my 16'' stock and 17'' (chome from SL) wheels with 2nd gen
calipers?

I thinking about portfield cryo rotors, R4S pads and regular 2nd gen
calipers.
It's for street, highway use.

Where can I get cheapest brakes

thanks for suggestions

andrzej artymowicz


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Andrzej Artymowicz
Mikolajczyka 12 m 91
03-984 Warszawa
POLAND
andrzej.artymowicz@wp.pl
(+48 22) 6715375
(+48 601) 250368
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Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 10:02:57 -0800
From: "Joel Singh" <joelsingh@primus.com.au>
Subject: Team3S: ECS

where abouts is the ECS computer located.
92 GTO
Thanks
Joel.


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Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 17:26:35 -0600
From: "merritt@cedar-rapids.net" <merritt@cedar-rapids.net>
Subject: Team3S: What's top end in an M5?

One of my ROWG buddies got a new M3, so we all had to go out and celebrate by making the nuclear plant run (a 12-mile stretch of road past our local nuke that has bunches of 100 mph sweepers).

Anyway, the M5 led, followed by an 850i BMW, me, and the M3.

Afterward, the M5 driver said he hit the rev limiter in 5th gear, which is 157 mph, he says. Tom, the 850i driver, looked at me, and said, "no way. We were following right along, and we never exceeded 130." The M3 was no help, because he disappeared in my mirrors, not to be seen again until the run was over. He said he was running only 100 mph for break-in purposes, and we plumb ran away from him.

Actually, I thought it had been a safe, leisurely drive, just three cars cruising close together at 100+ most of the time, with spurts up to 120, and hitting 130 once.

The M5 driver says his GPS computer (he has every gadget you can imagine) confirmed the top speed and recorded our average speed at 108 mph for the entire 12-mile trip.

How can this be? My speedo (and the 850i's) can't be THAT far off, can they?
If I was doing 150+, don't you think I'd know it? Sheesh, I didn't even have the boost turned up.

I think the M5's speedo and GPS are way off. One Beemer guy told me that BMW speedos are notoriously inaccurate at high speeds. How about GPS?

I should have passed them. I could have, but didn't. I will next time. The last time we did this, *I* led, and ran away from the M5 and the 850i.

Rich/slow old poop/94 VR4



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Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 16:29:09 -0800
From: Andrew Woll <awoll1@pacbell.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S: What's top end in an M5?

Well Rich - I can't speak for the M5, but I can speak for the M6 BMW. I have
a beautiful 87 than runs like a clock. This is a high revving car but not so
high that it can't hit 150. At 150 it will be revving about 6k and red line
is at 7k The various review articles say 156 is its top end if I remember
right. Personally, I have never had it that high. I just can't risk being
carted off to jail by the first cop to catch up after I slow down.

I can also say that compared to my Stealth TT the M6 does not hold a candle.
On all counts the Stealth is faster getting there, and holds the road a lot
better. Then again, I havn't had my stealth at 150 either, but I have had it
to 125 and at that speed it handled like it was going 60 in a regular car.
Going fast in either car is a blast.

Andy
- ----- Original Message -----
From: <merritt@cedar-rapids.net>
To: <3sracers@speedtoys.com>; <Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 3:26 PM
Subject: Team3S: What's top end in an M5?


> One of my ROWG buddies got a new M3, so we all had to go out and celebrate
by making the nuclear plant run (a 12-mile stretch of road past our local
nuke that has bunches of 100 mph sweepers).
>
> Anyway, the M5 led, followed by an 850i BMW, me, and the M3.
>
> Afterward, the M5 driver said he hit the rev limiter in 5th gear, which is
157 mph, he says. Tom, the 850i driver, looked at me, and said, "no way. We
were following right along, and we never exceeded 130." The M3 was no help,
because he disappeared in my mirrors, not to be seen again until the run was
over. He said he was running only 100 mph for break-in purposes, and we
plumb ran away from him.
>
> Actually, I thought it had been a safe, leisurely drive, just three cars
cruising close together at 100+ most of the time, with spurts up to 120, and
hitting 130 once.
>
> The M5 driver says his GPS computer (he has every gadget you can imagine)
confirmed the top speed and recorded our average speed at 108 mph for the
entire 12-mile trip.
>
> How can this be? My speedo (and the 850i's) can't be THAT far off, can
they?
> If I was doing 150+, don't you think I'd know it? Sheesh, I didn't even
have the boost turned up.
>
> I think the M5's speedo and GPS are way off. One Beemer guy told me that
BMW speedos are notoriously inaccurate at high speeds. How about GPS?
>
> I should have passed them. I could have, but didn't. I will next time. The
last time we did this, *I* led, and ran away from the M5 and the 850i.
>
> Rich/slow old poop/94 VR4

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Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 19:50:03 -0600
From: "cody" <overclck@satx.rr.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: brake upgrade

There is no difference between 1g and 2g rotors/calipers unless you are
going to the TT setup...  Non-turbo models all have the same stuff.

- -Cody

- -----Original Message-----
From: owner-team3s@team3s.com [mailto:owner-team3s@team3s.com] On Behalf
Of Andrzej Artymowicz
Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 5:05 PM
To: 3000GT list
Subject: Team3S: brake upgrade



Hi!

I'm planning to upgrade my brakes in '95 base 3000GT to 2nd generation
rotors. Do I need to buy only 2nd generation calipers, rotors and pads?
With no other modifications?

Can I use my 16'' stock and 17'' (chome from SL) wheels with 2nd gen
calipers?

I thinking about portfield cryo rotors, R4S pads and regular 2nd gen
calipers.
It's for street, highway use.

Where can I get cheapest brakes

thanks for suggestions

andrzej artymowicz


- --------------------------------
Andrzej Artymowicz
Mikolajczyka 12 m 91
03-984 Warszawa
POLAND
andrzej.artymowicz@wp.pl
(+48 22) 6715375
(+48 601) 250368

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Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 20:57:22 -0500
From: songsay@cs.com
Subject: Team3S: steering wheel

Does anyone know if a steering wheel from a first gen Eclipse GSX will fit on the 3000? Anybody have any aftermarket steering wheels they have installed?

                                                songsay   92 vr4

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Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 21:15:20 -0500
From: "Tim" <tim@onlineracing.tv>
Subject: Team3S: 91 Stealth Twin Turbo

Hi, I am looking for advice, opinions, & so on a recent dealer story I have.
I was driving my 91 stealth & began hearing a "wrapping" noise from under
the hood.  I pulled over & had the car towed to the dealer immediately.

The dealer charged me $500 just to "find out where the noise is coming
from".  I agreed (my regular mechanic wanted nothing to do with this one)

Anyway, he told me I was fortunate.  Apparently a piece of the belt had torn
& was hitting the housing as it spun.  He said he would test for any valve
damage & replace the belt / tensioner.  He quoted me around $1100 for the
job.  I agreed.

I picked the car up & drove home.  The noise was gone.
I parked it & later than night jumped in to head out.  Anyway, the vehicle
would not start.  It attempted to turn off & sputter right.

I called the tow truck & back it went.  Late that afternoon I got a call
from the dealer telling me "the vehicle has a really bad wrap".  He went on
to say we are not willing to tear this motor apart.  Make arrangement to
remove the car.  When I arrived he told me the car needed a new engine &
handed me a parts only quote of 6340.

Anyway, I did start the car & you can pretty much hear the pistons hitting
the values.  I have my own opions on what happened by do not want to push
those on you guys (the pro's).

I am looking for honest opinions on what I should make of this.
23 miles after having the belt/tensioner changed & the vehicle getting a
clean bill of heath I now need a new engine.

I am so pissed.  This truly is the best car I have ever owned (I had a GTA
5.7 & an RX7 Rag Top).  Neither even comes close.

The car is super clean, has tires with less than 100 miles on them.  I
really love the car but cannot seem to find a mechanic with any knowledge or
skill with this car (I'm in MA).

ok, I would really appreciate opinions on the dealer fiasco & advice as to
how much I should expect to spend & if anyone in the MA area would be
willing to take this project on.  I should also mention the dealer tried to
sell me an ABS system for $3000 as "it's a bad unit".  I actually unplugged
it because I do not like ABS & tried to wack me another $250 for an oil
sending unit.

They are now blaming the problem on low oil pressure as I decline repair on
that.   Obviously the sending unit just tells the guage what to display.  It
would in no way effect actual internal pressure.  Furthermore one would
think they tested pressure prior to trying to sell me a sending unit?

Thanks again,
Tim

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Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 21:24 -0500
From: "Dennis R. Ninneman" <dninneman@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S: What's top end in an M5?

Rich,

Great story!  Last Fall my son sold his '94 VR4 to get a fully Dinan'ed
330i.  He's already talking about getting another VR4!  Just not the
performance or thrills in the little beemer.

What engine mods are you running?

Dennis -==- Philly

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Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 22:02:49 -0500
From: "Tim" <tim@onlineracing.tv>
Subject: Fw: Team3S: 91 Stealth Twin Turbo

- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Tim" <tim@onlineracing.tv>
To: "Richard L. Barron" <radanc@cox.net>
Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 10:01 PM
Subject: Re: Team3S: 91 Stealth Twin Turbo


> The thing is though the belt actually never broke.  As it was explained to
> me by the service mgr.  The belt was getting close to coming apart.  He
said
> a piece of the belt had more or less torn.  It was like a flat hanging off
> the belt which was still together.  Anyway, that flap was hitting the
timing
> belt housing as the belt spun.  that was the slapping noise I was hearing.
> They told me I was lucky I shut the car off & towed it over the moment I
> heard the noise & told me no valve damage had occured.  When I left the
> dealership after the work was done the noise was gone & the car ran
perfect
> but only for 20 miles before crapping out.
>
> Now it's wrapping away.  Surely if there were valve damage while they were
> installing the belt it would have been wrapping the moment the car was
> started?  Please let me know as your thougths.
>
> Tomorrow is my day with the dealer to discuss exactly what has happened.
>
> Thanks for taking th etime to respond.
> Tim
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Richard L. Barron" <radanc@cox.net>
> To: "'Tim'" <tim@onlineracing.tv>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 9:56 PM
> Subject: RE: Team3S: 91 Stealth Twin Turbo
>
>
> > I think this was not the mechanics fault. They should have known that if
> > the timing belt goes engine damage is a big risk, and checked that then,
> > but I would bet the belt snapping caused your damage since that is one
> > of the worse things and why the 60k tune is so important. I do mine much
> > earlier since engine work is much more expensive.
> >
> > Rich
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-team3s@team3s.com [mailto:owner-team3s@team3s.com] On Behalf
> > Of Tim
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 6:15 PM
> > To: Team3S@team3s.com
> > Subject: Team3S: 91 Stealth Twin Turbo
> >
> > Hi, I am looking for advice, opinions, & so on a recent dealer story I
> > have.
> > I was driving my 91 stealth & began hearing a "wrapping" noise from
> > under
> > the hood.  I pulled over & had the car towed to the dealer immediately.
> >
> > The dealer charged me $500 just to "find out where the noise is coming
> > from".  I agreed (my regular mechanic wanted nothing to do with this
> > one)
> >
> > Anyway, he told me I was fortunate.  Apparently a piece of the belt had
> > torn
> > & was hitting the housing as it spun.  He said he would test for any
> > valve
> > damage & replace the belt / tensioner.  He quoted me around $1100 for
> > the
> > job.  I agreed.
> >
> > I picked the car up & drove home.  The noise was gone.
> > I parked it & later than night jumped in to head out.  Anyway, the
> > vehicle
> > would not start.  It attempted to turn off & sputter right.
> >
> > I called the tow truck & back it went.  Late that afternoon I got a call
> > from the dealer telling me "the vehicle has a really bad wrap".  He went
> > on
> > to say we are not willing to tear this motor apart.  Make arrangement to
> > remove the car.  When I arrived he told me the car needed a new engine &
> > handed me a parts only quote of 6340.
> >
> > Anyway, I did start the car & you can pretty much hear the pistons
> > hitting
> > the values.  I have my own opions on what happened by do not want to
> > push
> > those on you guys (the pro's).
> >
> > I am looking for honest opinions on what I should make of this.
> > 23 miles after having the belt/tensioner changed & the vehicle getting a
> > clean bill of heath I now need a new engine.
> >
> > I am so pissed.  This truly is the best car I have ever owned (I had a
> > GTA
> > 5.7 & an RX7 Rag Top).  Neither even comes close.
> >
> > The car is super clean, has tires with less than 100 miles on them.  I
> > really love the car but cannot seem to find a mechanic with any
> > knowledge or
> > skill with this car (I'm in MA).
> >
> > ok, I would really appreciate opinions on the dealer fiasco & advice as
> > to
> > how much I should expect to spend & if anyone in the MA area would be
> > willing to take this project on.  I should also mention the dealer tried
> > to
> > sell me an ABS system for $3000 as "it's a bad unit".  I actually
> > unplugged
> > it because I do not like ABS & tried to wack me another $250 for an oil
> > sending unit.
> >
> > They are now blaming the problem on low oil pressure as I decline repair
> > on
> > that.   Obviously the sending unit just tells the guage what to display.
> > It
> > would in no way effect actual internal pressure.  Furthermore one would
> > think they tested pressure prior to trying to sell me a sending unit?
> >
> > Thanks again,
> > Tim

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Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 22:02:54 -0500
From: "Tim" <tim@onlineracing.tv>
Subject: Fw: Team3S: What's top end in an M5?

- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Tim" <tim@onlineracing.tv>
To: "Dennis R. Ninneman" <dninneman@comcast.net>
Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 9:31 PM
Subject: Re: Team3S: What's top end in an M5?


> Both Nice Rides.
> The car is 100% stock.  No mods but still screams (I should say screamed)
> for a non mod vehicle.
>
> The whole situation kills me.  Tomorrow I am meeting with the higher ups
at
> the dealership to discuss the entire situation.  They of course to this
> point deny any wrong doing.  I find it incredibly ironic that 20 miles
after
> have the belt changed my pistons are now hitting the values.
> I am anxious to hear thoughts from everybody regarding just now this could
> have happened.
> Also, if anyone thinks the dealership could be right by all means educate
> me.  I'm looking for honest input either way.
> Thank again,
> Tim
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dennis R. Ninneman" <dninneman@comcast.net>
> To: <Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 9:24 PM
> Subject: Re: Team3S: What's top end in an M5?
>
>
> > Rich,
> >
> > Great story!  Last Fall my son sold his '94 VR4 to get a fully Dinan'ed
> > 330i.  He's already talking about getting another VR4!  Just not the
> > performance or thrills in the little beemer.
> >
> > What engine mods are you running?
> >
> > Dennis -==- Philly

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Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 21:07:42 -0600
From: "Matt Jannusch" <mjannusch@attbi.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: 91 Stealth Twin Turbo

> Anyway, he told me I was fortunate.  Apparently a piece
> of the belt had torn & was hitting the housing as it spun.
> He said he would test for any valve damage & replace
> the belt / tensioner.  He quoted me around $1100 for the
> job.  I agreed.

$1100 for a timing belt replacement!  Ouch!!!  Should be under $500 for the
whole job (from people who actually know how to do it properly).

> I am looking for honest opinions on what I should
> make of this. 23 miles after having the belt/tensioner
> changed & the vehicle getting a clean bill of heath I
> now need a new engine.

Plain and simple, they screwed up the far overpriced timing belt swap.  They
need to warranty their work and make things right for you and your car -
better yet, they should pay a COMPETENT shop to fix the heads (and possibly
pistons) and do the timing belt job properly, which they screwed up in the
first place.

Incompetence sucks, especially when you pay for it.

If they don't feel like it is their fault and won't help you and make things
right, talk to a good lawyer.

- -Matt
'95 3000GT Spyder VR4


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Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 23:26:17 EST
From: M3000GTSL84@aol.com
Subject: Team3S: sluggish engine/tranny

Hi guys-

By my house is a long stretch of road that is 2 lanes and very flat-a good
place to go fast is you so desired. While driving on it today a silver brand
new BMW 323 pulled behind me.

The driver got right on top of my ass until he decided to go around me. This
didnt sit well with me. As he came around I floored it, and. . . .nothin
happened. He zoomed by me like i was standing still.  I backed off at around
85. The car is an auto, but I know the car downshifted because the revs were
around 5500. It simply didnt pull the car with alot of oomph.

What could be the problem? I just had a 60K done. A lowly 323 (with the 2.5 6
cyl motor in it and no visible mods, and no im sure in not a DINAN) should
not move ahead of me when my car is at its power peak.  Im not so worried
that the evil Bimmer went ahead as i am about my car not feeling right. Its
hard to explain how it feels guys. its rare that I punch it like that, in
fact its probably the first time since the tune up.

Mike
- - 97 SL that feels like it needs powerade put in the tank

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