Team3S: 3000GT & Stealth Wednesday, February 26 2003 Volume 02 : Number 090
 
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Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 16:58:59 +0100
From: Roger Gerl <roger.gerl@bluewin.ch>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Team 3S: Blitz Blow Off Valve Help
 
Trevor,
 
Just look at the pictures and you'll be fine ;-) There is really no
instruction needed to turn a screw in or out. And you better leave it as it
is because the Blitz is very delicate on our cars because the stock valve
is still in place.
 
Roger G.
93' & 96'3000GT TT
www.rtec.ch
 
At 10:45 25.02.2003 -0500, Trevor Paciotti wrote:
>Hey, I just received the blow off valve I ordered, and all the
>instructions are in Japanese. Does anyone know where there are
>instructions in English? The only thing I'm really concerned about is
>the piston adjustment instructions. Any help would be much appreciated.
>Thanks
>
>Trevor
>91 Dodge Stealth TT
 
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Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 07:57:48 -0800
From: "fastmax" <fastmax@cox.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Team 3S: Blitz Blow Off Valve Help
 
Hmmmm --- I have a Blitz blow off valve but do not have the stock valve. I vent to the atmosphere and have had zero problems --- boost controller, gutted precats and test pipe are the only engine mods.
 
        Jim Berry
 
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Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 10:18:21 -0600
From: "merritt@cedar-rapids.net" <merritt@cedar-rapids.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Team 3S: Blitz Blow Off Valve Help
 
I have the same thing. Alas, mine is one of the *NOISY* BOVs. It goes WHOOSH! so loud the corner workers ask me, "why does your car make that funny noise?" I bought it as part of a boost controller/BOV package, not realizing it was a rice boy BOV.
 
Anybody know how to shut it up?
Can I put a muffler on it?
 
Rich/slow old poop
 
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Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 11:38:47 -0500
From: "Furman, Russell" <RFurman2@MassMutual.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Team 3S: Blitz Blow Off Valve Help
 
Rich if it is one of the new DD models yes you can put a filter on it or even set it up to recirculate back into the intake.
 
Check the Blitz USA sites for details.
 
Russ F
CT
 
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Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 18:00:12 +0100
From: Roger Gerl <roger.gerl@bluewin.ch>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Team 3S: Blitz Blow Off Valve Help
 
The kit comes with the y what leaves the stock valve in place. As we all
know, the stock valve is leaking when old and especially together with the
Blitz the behaviour can be strange. One may cap the one side of the y off
as well as the recirculating inlet. It works well with the factory settings.
 
Roger
93' & 96'3000GT TT
www.rtec.ch
 
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Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 10:49:21 -0600
From: "merritt@cedar-rapids.net" <merritt@cedar-rapids.net>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Team 3S: Blitz Blow Off Valve Help
 
At 11:38 AM 2/25/03 -0500, Furman, Russell wrote:
>Rich if it is one of the new DD models yes you can put a filter on it
>or even set it up to recirculate back into the intake.
>
>Check the Blitz USA sites for details.
 
I looked at a half-dozen sites compliments of Google, but can't find any Blitz SuperSound BOV that looks like mine, which has like a trumpet-like end. Mine is probably 5 years old, because I bought it from a dude two years ago, who took it off his car, so it had probably been on there for two or more years.
 
It sure looks like one of those filter attachments would shut it up, if I knew which one to order, or found a site that sold it separately.  I also can't find the Blitz USA site (the one I found sells gas cans). Know where it is?
 
Does anybody out there in racer land sell Blitz parts?
Can you get me a BOV filter or a muffler?
 
Rich/slow old poop/94 VR4 with very loud Blitz BOV
 
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Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 12:07:02 -0500
From: "Furman, Russell" <RFurman2@MassMutual.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Team 3S: Blitz Blow Off Valve Help
 
Rich try this link http://www.blitz-na.com/Blitz_About%20Blitz.htm , That should redirect you to their USA home site
 
Russ F
CT
 
- -----Original Message-----
From: merritt@cedar-rapids.net [mailto:merritt@cedar-rapids.net]
Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 11:49 AM
 
I looked at a half-dozen sites compliments of Google, but can't find any Blitz SuperSound BOV that looks like mine, which has like a trumpet-like end. Mine is probably 5 years old, because I bought it from a dude two years ago, who took it off his car, so it had probably been on there for two or more years.
 
It sure looks like one of those filter attachments would shut it up, if I knew which one to order, or found a site that sold it separately.  I also can't find the Blitz USA site (the one I found sells gas cans). Know where it is?
 
Does anybody out there in racer land sell Blitz parts?
Can you get me a BOV filter or a muffler?
 
Rich/slow old poop/94 VR4 with very loud Blitz BOV
 
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Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 12:10:31 -0500
From: Bill Ma <BillMa@FLAGCOMM.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Team 3S: Blitz Blow Off Valve Help
 
Rich, try this
 
http://www.blitz-na.com/
 
Bill
Visions Of Speed
http://visionsofspeed.net
 
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Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 18:11:44 +0100
From: Roger Gerl <roger.gerl@bluewin.ch>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Team 3S: Blitz Blow Off Valve Help
 
Yes, it is very rice and the new ones are even chirping like a bird that is
crying for help. As already said, the DD have a filter that makes them less
noisy. I think you have the old one but you can definitely do something to
the outlet that makes it less noisy. Something like a K&N breather filter
works well.
 
Roger G.
93' & 96'3000GT
www.rtec.ch
 
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Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 11:13:20 -0600
From: "merritt@cedar-rapids.net" <merritt@cedar-rapids.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Team 3S: Blitz Blow Off Valve Help
 
> I think you have the old one but you can definitely do something to the
>outlet that makes it less noisy. Something like a K&N breather filter
>works well.
 
You mean, just find a round carburetor air filter and clamp it on there?
 
Hmmm...maybe one of those chrome air filters off an old Stromberg two-barrel carb would fit.
 
Rich
 
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Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 12:23:47 -0500
From: "Watson David M AMN 16 ACCS/DOM" <David.Watson@GAROBI.ANG.AF.MIL>
Subject: RE: Team3S: California Smog II program
 
I don't know how long you guys have been talking about this, but I received a letter yesterday asking me to take my car to the nearest Chrysler? dealer to get my exhaust changed out for free.  Supposedly it's out of emissions regulations for California, yet I live in Georgia. Anyone else get that letter?
 
On another note...I'm deploying to the AOR for at least a few months, and I remember reading a few posts a while back about problems with fuel hardening up or "going stale" over a period of time.  There were differing opinions when it was discussed.  Can I get an updated opinion on what to do?  Everyone I trust is deploying with me, so I don't have anyone to run my car while I'm gone.  Would I be correct in saying that the best thing to do would be run all the fuel out of the tank?  Other options, such as any additives I could add to the fuel to keep it fresh?
 
Thanks in advance for the input...I know you guys will help me out.
 
David Watson
Airborne Missions Systems Specialist
United States Air Force
Robins AFB, GA
 
- -----Original Message-----
From: Jeff Lucius [mailto:jlucius@stealth316.com]
Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 9:06 AM
 
In Colorado, AWD vehicles use a "dual treadmill" for emissions tests. However, some AWD cars are specifically exempted from this type of test because of low clearance and low wheel/sidewall height. Among these are the Stealth TT and 3000GT VR4. Our cars just use the "parked but revved engine" tests. We have a web site that documents this - maybe CA has one too?
 
http://www.aircarecolorado.com/im240tst.htm
 
Jeff Lucius, http://www.stealth316.com/
 
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Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 10:30:49 -0700
From: Desert Fox <bigfoot@simmgene.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: California Smog II program
 
Get you some Stabil fuel stabilizer and add the appropriate amount to your tank. I use it every year on my motorcycles and lawn mowers during the winter.
 
Yes, fuel does get stale much more quickly than most people believe...
 
- --
Paul/.
95 black 3000GT VR-4
98 VFR800F, TBR aluminum hi exit
formerly reasonable and prudent
 
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Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 11:33:19 -0600
From: Jon Paine <ppainej@attglobal.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S: California Smog II program
 
Stabil additive does a great job. I've used it for years in mowers and
motorcycles. Pour it in the gas tank and run the car a few minutes to
let the fuel pump mix it in and circulate it through the injectors.
 
Red stuff in plastic bottles, find it most places that sell seasonal
equipment like mowers and lawn tractors.
 
Jon Paine
 
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Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 09:33:54 -0800
From: "James Mutton" <james@playstream.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Team 3S: Blitz Blow Off Valve Help
 
If you are using the actual kit that came with the SS or DD BOV's from blitz you can plug the pressure side of your stock BOV with the cap from a 20 oz. or 1 ltr. Coke bottle. :)  Worked great for me for a long time (till I made a recirc kit for my SS).
 
My SS-BOV came with both the filter-like attachment and a "not-quite-trumpet-like" attachment.  I didn't like the filter attachment because it blocked the early release hole on the bottom of the main outlet port.  That lets a small amount of boost by earlier and helps on partial throttle lift off.  The kit I made plumbs that into the intake as well.
 
- -James
95 Green VR-4
 
- -----Original Message-----
From: Roger Gerl [mailto:roger.gerl@bluewin.ch]
Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 9:00 AM
 
The kit comes with the y what leaves the stock valve in place. As we all
 
know, the stock valve is leaking when old and especially together with the
Blitz the behaviour can be strange. One may cap the one side of the y off
as well as the recirculating inlet. It works well with the factory settings.
 
Roger
93' & 96'3000GT TT
www.rtec.ch
 
At 07:57 25.02.2003 -0800, fastmax wrote:
>Hmmmm --- I have a Blitz blow off valve but do not have the stock
>valve. I vent to the atmosphere and have had zero problems --- boost
>controller, gutted precats and test pipe are the only engine mods.
>
>         Jim Berry
 
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Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 19:24:40 -0000
From: "Jim Matthews" <jim@the-matthews.com>
Subject: Team3S: RE: Blitz Blow Off Valve Help
 
> (till I made a recirc kit for my SS).
 
Can you elaborate?  Your Blitz SS-BOV does not vent to the atmosphere? I bought one a few years ago to eliminate the honking goose that came with my FIPK but don't care for the engine stumble it causes when letting off the gas (presumably caused by an over-rich condition, since some of the air the ECU meters is released to the atmosphere rather than recirculated/burned, even with the adjustment screw tightened down all the way).
 
- - --
Jim Matthews - Yorkshire, England
mailto:jim@the-matthews.com
http://www.the-matthews.com
 
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Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 20:35:45 -0700
From: "Erik Petterson" <erik@microworks.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S: OT: I wrecked my stealth
 
Keep in mind it was a 91 base model stealth with 125k miles on it and on it's second tranny.  I would love to have it back just like it was before the wreck, but when you get frame damage and a collision to this degree even if they spent a lot of $$$ on it, it would still never drive right(alignment, steering, and safety).  I only paid $2,800 for the car a little over a year ago...
 
Does anyone know how insurance claims work?  Like all of my medical bills are being paid for by "Access" (Arizona State insurance).  But the other lady that caused the accident only had $30,000 liability.  I've had other people in my family tell me they've known people with less injuries get upwards of $2-$500,000 settlement checks.  Where does this money come from if the other person's insurance coverage is only $30k???
 
I hope my lawyer will be able to get as much as possible and hopefully more than $30k.  If anyone knows how all this works please feel free to email me back privately.
 
Thanks,
- -Erik
 
- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Spainhour" <spainhou@bellsouth.net>
Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2003 4:55 PM
 
> On this line, If you bend the frame, it is totaled. Why?
> I thought you could always fix it and totaled means that it costs more
> to fix than to buy another.
 
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Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 12:26:09 -0800
From: Andrew Woll <awoll1@pacbell.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S: OT: I wrecked my stealth
 
Hi Erik:
 
I looked at your webpage with the explanation of what happened and your injuries.  Explaining the whole personal injury system is just too much for an email message. Suffice it to say that you need to retain a personal injury lawyer right away. The value of your case depends on your personal injuries, your wage loss, the permanent effects on your body and your life, as well as your property damage. UNTIL YOU HIRE A LAWYER DO NOT TALK TO ANY INSURANCE REPRESENTATIVE (INCLUDING YOUR OWN). DO NOT GIVE ANY STATEMENTS. GET RID OF YOUR WEBPAGE WITH THE EXPLANATION AND PICTURES. KEEP TRACK OF EVERY PIECE OF PAPER INVOLVED. KEEP TRACK OF EVERY NAME OF EVERY NURSE, DOCTOR, HOSPITAL, MECHANIC, WITNESS, ETC.
 
You were obviously badly hurt. At this point you can be your own best friend, or you can be your own worst enemy. Finding someone to assist you may be hard. I do not know any good injury lawyers in Arizona.  Call the president of the Phoenix Bar Association and ask him or her who the best PI lawyer in the area is. DO NOT - AGAIN - DO NOT -  rely on a lawyer referral service. They usually  just use a rotating panel. The members may be good lawyers, or they may just be amateurs.
 
Good Luck.
 
Andy Woll, Attorney at Law
 
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Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 12:38:22 -0800
From: "Dr. John A. Tabler" <jtabler@summitmicro.com>
Subject: Team3S: reverse light
 
Hi All,
If you have experienced the electrical problems described  below, and
have found a remedy, I'd appreciate hearing from you..
 
Symptoms:
*  The reverse light ("back-up light") on my 92 VR4  has become
intermittent.  It only works about 1 in 10 times.
*  One of the instrument cluster lights comes on and stays on for days
at a time.  It is the second one from the bottom right, above the
radiator light and below the SRS light.  I think it is the washer fluid
light, but both those tanks are full.
 
Best Regards,
John
 
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Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 14:06:02 -0700
From: Desert Fox <bigfoot@simmgene.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: OT: I wrecked my stealth
 
I'd have to agree with Andrew here. Keep track of everything and don't make any statements to the insurance companies. Find a good PI attorney if you want even a snowball's chance of anything above and beyond book value of your vehicle. Then be prepared for the long haul as these cases can take considerable time.
 
- --
Paul/.
95 black 3000GT VR-4
98 VFR800F, TBR aluminum hi exit
formerly reasonable and prudent
 
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Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 15:13:37 -0600
From: "Willis, Charles E." <cewillis@TexasChildrensHospital.org>
Subject: Team3S: transaxle leak - seal where linkages enter transaxle?
 
Dear Friends,
 
I have a leak on my 6 speed tranny.  The dealer (easy now, I have an extended warranty) thinks it is leaking from the seal where the shifter linkages enter the tranny, a part of course not available from Mitsubishi.  Anybody know a source for this seal (assuming this is a real part)? Would Kormex or M&S recycling have something like this?
 
Chuck Willis
 
BTW
 
My '94 passed its transfer case recall.  It has a horrendous rotational noise from the front left wheel that only occurs when there is weight on the car.  Satan thinks it is the wheel bearing, which I am delighted to have them (finally) replace under extended warranty.
 
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Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 13:32:49 -0800
From: "Gross, Erik" <erik.gross@intel.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: transaxle leak - seal where linkages enter transaxle?
 
Chuck,
 I don't have any info on that seal, but please keep us posted on what you find - on both of my VR-4s I had/have a tiny leak that seems to be coming from somewhere on the upper sides or top of the tranny.  I haven't been able to isolate it yet, and since it's really small (1 drop in a week), I haven't put too much effort into it.  However it'd be nice not to have it at all :-)
 
- --Erik
 
> I have a leak on my 6 speed tranny.  The dealer (easy now, I have an
> extended warranty) thinks it is leaking from the seal where the
> shifter linkages enter the tranny, a part of course not available
> from Mitsubishi.
 
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Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 15:39:13 -0600
From: "Willis, Charles E." <cewillis@TexasChildrensHospital.org>
Subject: RE: Team3S: transaxle leak - seal where linkages enter transaxle?
 
Yeah, I had the car up on jack stands to change brakes and kind of looked around.  I noticed some oil streams on the outsides of the transaxle case, but I wasn't sure whether this was just "burp up" through the vent or really maybe even engine oil.  I needed to get the car in for the wheel bearing and transfer case recall, so I thought I'd let them take a guess.
 
Chuck
 
- -----Original Message-----
From: Gross, Erik [mailto:erik.gross@intel.com]
Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 3:33 PM
 
Chuck,
 I don't have any info on that seal, but please keep us posted on what you find - on both of my VR-4s I had/have a tiny leak that seems to be coming from somewhere on the upper sides or top of the tranny.  I haven't been able to isolate it yet, and since it's really small (1 drop in a week), I haven't put too much effort into it.  However it'd be nice not to have it at all :-)
 
- --Erik
 
> I have a leak on my 6 speed tranny.  The dealer (easy now, I have an
> extended warranty) thinks it is leaking from the seal where the
> shifter linkages enter the tranny, a part of course not available
> from Mitsubishi.
 
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Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 16:38:59 -0500
From: "Furman, Russell" <RFurman2@MassMutual.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: transaxle leak - seal where linkages enter transaxle?
 
I would put money on it is the same issue that the MKIV's have/had.... Right around the 5 year 90K mile mark they begin to leak from that area.  Oh before anyone asks, yes the MKIV tranny is/was manufactured by Getrag.....
 
In those cases Yota has been able to get replacement seal, my suggestion would be to figure out what part number it is (CALLING ALL PERSONS WHO HAVE QUICK ACCESS TO CAPS) and then proceed from there.  Or try going online to the place that sells the replacement parts for our trannies (the name of the outfit slips my mind at the moment)
 
Russ F
CT
 
- -----Original Message-----
From: Gross, Erik [mailto:erik.gross@intel.com]
Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 4:33 PM
 
Chuck,
 I don't have any info on that seal, but please keep us posted on what you find - on both of my VR-4s I had/have a tiny leak that seems to be coming from somewhere on the upper sides or top of the tranny.  I haven't been able to isolate it yet, and since it's really small (1 drop in a week), I haven't put too much effort into it.  However it'd be nice not to have it at all :-)
 
- --Erik
 
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Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 16:48:31 -0500
From: "Starkey, Jr., Joseph" <starkeyje@bipc.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: transaxle leak - seal where linkages enter transaxle?
 
<<<In those cases Yota has been able to get replacement seal, my Suggestion would be to figure out what part number it is (CALLING ALL PERSONS WHO HAVE QUICK ACCESS TO CAPS) and then proceed from there.>>>
 
There is no listing in CAPS for this seal.
 
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Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 16:51:05 -0500
From: "Furman, Russell" <RFurman2@MassMutual.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: transaxle leak - seal where linkages enter transaxle?
 
Well now that shoots that thought pattern to $hit, who was the place that provided a listing of various internal parts for our trannies?  They also gave prices right on their website...
 
Russ F
CT
 
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Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 14:03:04 -0800
From: "Gross, Erik" <erik.gross@intel.com>
Subject: Team3S: Ignition Technical Question
 
Does anyone know if/where there is a 12V ignition signal in our cars? Specifically a signal that pulses to 12V anytime a firing event occurs?  It doesn't matter if the signal is specific to a single cylinder or has pulses anytime any cylinder fires.
 
I have only found 5V signals, and I need a 12V signal.  I've tried the "Engine Speed" output of the ECU (pin58 of my '95 TT ECU), but that's a 0-5V signal.  I looked at the ECU trigger outputs to the power transistor, but AFAIK, those are the basis for the Engine Speed output, and thus are 5V as well.
 
It looks like the outputs of the power transistor (pins 11, 12, and 13) should be 12V signals, but as I see it, they look to be 12V with pulses to 0V when that coil fires.  That *may* work for what I'm trying to do, but I'm not sure...  BTW, how hard is it to get to the power transistor?  It looks like it's just below the coils, but that's just from the diagrams :-) 
 
Ideas?
 
- --Erik
 
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Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 17:04:56 -0500
From: "Starkey, Jr., Joseph" <starkeyje@bipc.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: transaxle leak - seal where linkages enter transaxle?
 
You might be referring to this:  http://www.3si.org/pages/tranny.htm
 
However, unless I missed it, this particular seal is not listed there either.
 
- -----Original Message-----
From: Furman, Russell [mailto:RFurman2@MassMutual.com]
Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 4:51 PM
 
Well now that shoots that thought pattern to $hit, who was the place That provided a listing of various internal parts for our trannies?  They Also gave prices right on their website...
 
Russ F
CT
 
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Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 23:15:27 +0100
From: "Roger Gerl" <roger.gerl@bluewin.ch>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Ignition Technical Question
 
Eric, you may better adapt your other hardware to accept 5V as this is what the ECU gives. The power transistors are sealed and they switch the ground but not the 12V. So you may use the switched side of one of the three coils as it sees 12V and then is switched down to ground to get saturated. It fires then when the transistor is closing again.
 
The tach signal is the one you may want to use as your reference.
 
Roger G.
94' & 96'3000GT TT
www.rtec.ch
 
> Does anyone know if/where there is a 12V ignition signal in our cars?
> Specifically a signal that pulses to 12V anytime a firing event
> occurs? It doesn't matter if the signal is specific to a single
> cylinder or has pulses anytime any cylinder fires.
>
> I have only found 5V signals, and I need a 12V signal.  I've tried the
> "Engine Speed" output of the ECU (pin58 of my '95 TT ECU), but that's
> a 0-5V signal.  I looked at the ECU trigger outputs to the power
> transistor, but AFAIK, those are the basis for the Engine Speed
> output, and thus are 5V as well.
>
> It looks like the outputs of the power transistor (pins 11, 12, and
> 13) should be 12V signals, but as I see it, they look to be 12V with
> pulses to 0V when that coil fires.  That *may* work for what I'm
> trying to do, but I'm not sure...  BTW, how hard is it to get to the
> power transistor?  It looks like it's just below the coils, but that's
> just from the diagrams :-)
 
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Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 14:27:57 -0800 (PST)
From: glenn vrfour <vr4glenn@yahoo.com>
Subject: Team3S: Active Exhaust Cut-away picture
 
I've searched the archives and can't seem to find the
original msg. 
 
So, can someone repost the link to a picture of the
active exhaust muffler that has been cut open? 
 
Thanks in advance,
 
Glenn
93 VR-4 with active exhaust problems
 
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Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 15:05:34 -0800
From: "fastmax" <fastmax@cox.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S: transaxle leak - seal where linkages enter transaxle?
 
I pulled a 5 speed apart and don't recall any gaskets used, it's all RTV stuff. As to the seal around the mechanical linkage I don't remember what it is, rubber boot of some kind probably. If it's just a boot Kormex should have a batch of used ones laying around.
 
        Jim Berry
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From: "Willis, Charles E." <cewillis@TexasChildrensHospital.org>
 
> I have a leak on my 6 speed tranny.  The dealer (easy now, I have an
> extended warranty) thinks it is leaking from the seal where the
> shifter linkages enter the tranny, a part of course not available
> from Mitsubishi.  Anybody know a source for this seal (assuming this
> is a real part)? Would Kormex or M&S recycling have something like
> this?
 
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Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 18:11:34 -0500
From: "Omar Malik" <ojm@iname.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Active Exhaust Cut-away picture
 
http://www.groundzeroperformance.com/omar/active2.jpg
 
Omar
92 r/t
 
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From: glenn vrfour
Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 5:28 PM
 
I've searched the archives and can't seem to find the
original msg. 
 
So, can someone repost the link to a picture of the
active exhaust muffler that has been cut open? 
 
Thanks in advance,
 
Glenn
93 VR-4 with active exhaust problems
 
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Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 18:37:23 -0500
From: "Trevor Paciotti" <sam_or_i@hotmail.com>
Subject: Team3S: Team 3S: Blow Off Valve Instructions in English
 
Hey, I just received the blow off valve I ordered, and all the instructions
are in Japanese. Does anyone know where there are instructions in English?
The only thing I'm really concerned about is the piston adjustment
instructions. Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks
 
Trevor
91 Dodge Stealth TT
 
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Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 19:30:02 -0500
From: "Philip V. Glazatov" <gphilip@umich.edu>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Ignition Technical Question
 
As Roger said, if you connect to the coils, you would see this: http://www-personal.umich.edu/~gphilip/17.gif
(the magenta trace)
 
You can try it, but the signal gets pretty choppy at high RPM and your tach
might not read it right. You asked for ideas? Try some other signals too:
http://www-personal.umich.edu/~gphilip/labjack.html . All these signals
were collected at the ECU except for the spark signal, which was collected
at the coil's primary coil. If you ask me what I have on the Y-axis, it's
voltage. Labjack goes only to 10V, so why some signals do not reach 10V, I
do not know. That was long time ago. I used a voltage divider to scale down
the coil signal. I do not think I scaled down anything else with it, but I
do not remember for sure. Ahh.. memory... I am getting old...
 
Philip
 
At 05:03 PM 2/25/2003, Gross, Erik wrote:
>Does anyone know if/where there is a 12V ignition signal in our cars?
>Specifically a signal that pulses to 12V anytime a firing event occurs? 
>It doesn't matter if the signal is specific to a single cylinder or has
>pulses anytime any cylinder fires.
>
>I have only found 5V signals, and I need a 12V signal.  I've tried the
>"Engine Speed" output of the ECU (pin58 of my '95 TT ECU), but that's a
>0-5V signal.  I looked at the ECU trigger outputs to the power
>transistor, but AFAIK, those are the basis for the Engine Speed output,
>and thus are 5V as well.
>
>It looks like the outputs of the power transistor (pins 11, 12, and 13)
>should be 12V signals, but as I see it, they look to be 12V with pulses
>to 0V when that coil fires.  That *may* work for what I'm trying to do,
>but I'm not sure...  BTW, how hard is it to get to the power
>transistor?  It looks like it's just below the coils, but that's just
>from the diagrams :-)
>
>Ideas?
>
>--Erik
 
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Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 17:44:48 -0800
From: "Gross, Erik" <erik.gross@intel.com>
Subject: Team3S: TEC Rear Strut Tower Brace Installation Pics
 
Finally got the web page done:
 
http://www.team3s.com/~egross/3000GT/TECRStBrace/page1.html
 
This is an absolutely sweet brace - I'm very pleased with it.  With my IO Port Video camera mount and a normal (not wide-angle) lens, I can shoot completely stable video, even on really rough roads.  Eventually I'll be using this bar to attach harnesses, but that's a future project.  The attention to detail and the quality of construction is, IMHO, better than then TEC front brace, which was already pretty impressive.
 
This completes my current suspension plans as I now have front and rear anti-sway bars and front and rear strut tower braces.  The car is noticeably more responsive and rotates much better than stock.  It doesn't "hop" when drifting, but rather exhibits a smooth, controllable slide that responds well to throttle application.  Unless JIC starts making a street-oriented coil-over setup of the Tein Flex stuff is all that and a bag of chips, I think my suspension is done, and I'm pleased with the results.
 
Questions/comments welcome...
flames or "that brace is too @#$# expensive" comments to /dev/null :-)
 
- --Erik
'95 VR-4  www.team3s.com/~egross
 
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Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 20:58:49 -0500
From: "Darren Schilberg" <dschilberg@pobox.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: TEC Rear Strut Tower Brace Installation Pics
 
Erik - Glad you are as impressed as others have been.  I was there when Chris unveiled the multi-color bars to some of us from PA and I got to try out Chris' own front and rear bars on my own car.  I tried to comment to the list how well these were manufactured but got shot down from people saying it was too much or "gee - this one that is bolted together is cheaper AND I bet much stronger" so I'm glad to see some reinforcement for the TEC Performance bars as it more than deserves it.
 
I think you have the "non-manual sunroof" bar so I wanted to note that his other bar has a small ledge for stowing the manual sunroof glass when removed
 
Sure the price is a bit high but a front and rear strut brace from Chris ($550 for both) as well as the appropriate anti-sway bar upgrades (around $300) for a total of about $850 but this saves on an initial suspension setup of stiffer springs that can easily go $1,000 (coilover type setup) so it is a little pricey but makes a very nice and solid setup for the car and I can't wait until I can do this to my car as well.
 
Kudos to Chris from TEC Performance.
 
- --Flash!
 
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Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 21:04:57 -0500
From: "Darren Schilberg" <dschilberg@pobox.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: TEC Rear Strut Tower Brace Installation Pics
 
Correction - I see the optional support bracket.  Apologies.  You keep changing cars on me and I can't keep track if it is black, white, power sunroof, etc.  =)
 
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From: Darren Schilberg
 
[snip]
 
I think you have the "non-manual sunroof" bar so I wanted to note that his other bar has a small ledge for stowing the manual sunroof glass when removed
 
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Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 23:47:25 -0600
From: "Dan Hyde" <danielhyde@attbi.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: TEC Rear Strut Tower Brace Installation Pics
 
About a week ago I installed front/rear Saner Sways.  All I can say is *holy
crap* what a difference these things made! The result was *not* a subtle change in handling behavior - they run flat without ride comfort degrading. I'm still grinning about these dang things and all I'm doing is writing about em! I've had a set of Ground Control coilovers ordered and "on the way" through what seems has been  a long arduous Group Buy and I'm sort of regretting that I did it now.  I queued the purchase of these things up to help reduce body roll before the Saner's went on and maybe I probably didn't need them after all. (but was also looking to drop her a little for cosmetic reasons too )
 
Now about the TECs - I also have a set of these ordered.  I had envisioned these for some time but moved quicker to hopefully fix what might be an odd situation resulting from my Rear Saner Sway install.  I say odd situation because no one else has reported a problem here on our group.
 
On my car, the rear sway bar has dang tight clearance between the left sway bar end link and the flange where the rear axle bolts up.  The heads of the bolts are less that 1/4 from each other.  I saw that when it was going together but the geometry back there should not permit much flex other than what happens from compression/decompression of suspension which changes camber.  When I do a "severe throw it into a corner till she slides" left turn I can hear the axle flange bolt heads ticking on the link bolt slightly - weird sound.  It can't get it to do it on a hard hard right hander. It's hard to get it to happen on a left hander too but it does happen so I have to fix this.  I think I have a case of frame/strut tower flexing going on.  I'm hoping the TEC install will cure the flex?.  If not, I guess I need to get under there and see if I can reposition the sway bar to the right by a gnats eye lash!.
 
Dan
Pearl White 1997 VR4
K&N; FlowMaster Catback;
Saner Performance Sway Bars (both);
3SX Adjustable Rear Control Arms;
K40 Radar; Enkie RP01 w/Nitto NT 555 - 245/40 ZR18
 
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Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 09:28:24 -0800
From: "Gross, Erik" <erik.gross@intel.com>
Subject: Team3S: Rear Sway Bar Installation Tip     WAS:TEC Rear Strut Tower Brace ...
 
Dan wrote:
> On my car, the rear sway bar has dang tight clearance between
> the left sway bar end link and the flange where the rear
> axle bolts up.  The heads of the bolts are less that 1/4
> from each other.
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> When I do a "severe throw it into a corner till she
> slides" left turn I can hear the axle flange bolt heads
> ticking on the link bolt slightly - weird sound.
 
Yikes!  You don't want interference between those bolt heads :-)  I assume you're talking about the endlink being in this position:
 
http://www.team3s.com/~egross/Temp/RSwBEL2.jpg
 
To get your bearings, this is the rear RH wheel, and the anti-sway bar end-link is the shiny silver thing near the red bushing.  The boot you see is connected to the driveshaft, and then you can see the mating flange going to the hub assembly.  On the other side of where you see the nuts on the flange are bolt heads, which will just barely contact the bolt head on the end-link if you don't do anything about it.
 
Here's a view of the rear LH side, where you can see the end-link from another angle: http://www.team3s.com/~egross/Temp/RSwBEL2.jpg.  Note the spacer/bushing between the anti-sway bar (black) and the end link (silver). What we ended up doing was to cut the spacer in half, grind it down so it was flat and smooth, and reinstall the bar.  This gave me that extra 1/4" inch of clearance that Dan was talking about needing.  My end links do not interfere in any way with the bolts on the driveshaft flange, even when doing hard cornering.
 
- --Erik
'95 VR-4  www.team3s.com/~egross
 
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