Team3S: 3000GT & Stealth Wednesday, December 18 2002 Volume 02 : Number 028
 
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Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 14:50:35 -0000
From: "Jeff Lucius" <jlucius@stealth316.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: turbo
 
>> the supra has sequential turbo, a smaller one at lower rpm, then
>> the fatty one just a little more boost at higher rpm
 
Despite the popularity of this misconception, the Supra twin turbos are
identical for all practical purposes - uh, like twins. :) There has been some
discussion of very slightly different wheel sizes on some models, but nothing
of consequence. Each Supra Turbo compressor wheel is bit larger than our 15G
wheel, I think.
 
Jeff Lucius, http://www.stealth316.com/
 
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Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 10:01:52 -0500
From: "Furman, Russell" <RFurman2@MassMutual.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: was turbo/ NOW lifters and block cooling?
 
Of note is the fact that the MKIV runs a pair of CT-26's and that one of the turbine housings is different  than a standard CT-26.  I can not remember at this time which one of the 2 is different (I believe it is the  rear one).
 
Also due to issues with the manner in which the sequential system operates (causing premature #2 turbo  failure) quite a few owner's with the 6 speed manual opt to wire open the cross over system and run them in  parallel.
 
The fact that I still remember how to do this procedure scares me.
 
Now for VR-4 related questions........
 
Does anyone know offhand a non adjustable replacement lifter option for our cars that will withstand 9K rpms  and high lift/ high duration cams?  The DR option is nice but the level of detail required to get the  lifters all exactly the same is beyond my capability.
 
I would like to improve coolant flow around the block (and the heads also) and I am looking for  recommendations as to how much I can really open up the flow ports and channels on the block.....
 
- -----Original Message-----
From: Jeff Lucius [mailto:jlucius@stealth316.com]
Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 9:51 AM
Subject: Re: Team3S: turbo
 
>> the supra has sequential turbo, a smaller one at lower rpm, then
>> the fatty one just a little more boost at higher rpm
 
Despite the popularity of this misconception, the Supra twin turbos are
identical for all practical purposes - uh, like twins. :) There has been some
discussion of very slightly different wheel sizes on some models, but nothing
of consequence. Each Supra Turbo compressor wheel is bit larger than our 15G
 
wheel, I think.
 
Jeff Lucius, http://www.stealth316.com/
 
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Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 16:53:41 +0100
From: "howard smith" <darkstar4000h@msn.com>
Subject: Team3S: FW: Good news in the mail
 
Got this in the mail today!!  Going to take her in
date December 2002
RE: IMPORTANT SAFETY RECALL NOTIFICATION:SR-02003
this notice is sent to you in accordance with the requirements of the national traffic and motor vehicle  safety act. you may have received a prior notice to have the transfer case oil in your vehicle inspected. parts  are now available for transfer case seal replacement. What is the safety issue? Mitsubishi motors sales of  America .inc has determined that a defect which affects vehicle safety exist in certain 1991 through 1999  Mitsubishi 3000gt VR-4 vehicles. there is a possibility that a leak in the transfer case may cause bearing  failure and subsequent lock up of the wheels which could result in a crash what your retailer will do: your  retailer will inspect the transfer case for leakage or damage and if necessary, replace the seals and re-fill  the transfer case to the proper level: or replace the transfer case if there is evidence of damage. what you  should do: please contact your authorized Mitsubishi retailer immediately to schedule an appointment for the  repair there will be no charge for this repair. how long will it take: the repair to the transfer case will  take approximately two hours to complete, but may take longer, depending upon your dealer schedule. Have you  changed address or sold the vehicle? if you have changed your address or sold the vehicle please fill out  the enclosed postcard if you have already encountered the problems described above and have paid for the  repair you may send your original receipts and/or other adequate proof of payment to the following address  for reimbursement please include a daytime phone number. Mitsubishi motor sales of America inc., customer  connections Dept., P.O. Box 6400,cypress,CA90630-0064 if you have any trouble getting your vehicle repaired  promptly and at no charge please inform us by calling: Mitsubishi customer connections Department  (888)MITSU-2002 (888-648-7820 hours Monday-Saturday 7am-to 10pm central standard time
 
 
if after contacting Mitsubishi customer connections. you still have a problem having your vehicle repaired  promptly and without charge write to the Administrator, National Highway Traffic Safety Administration 400  seventh street SW, Washington D.C 20590, or call the auto safety hotline toll free 888-327-4236 Mitsubishi is  committed to making your safety our first concern and we sincerely regret any inconvenience to you caused by  this recall sincerely Richard Donnelson Director; service and product support
 
Howard Smith 3000gt VR4 1993
 
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Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 07:53:23 -0800
From: "fastmax" <fastmax@cox.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S: hesitation in gear w/o throttle
 
I'll second that. I was going to respond with a recommendation that you try and find someone willing to let  you plug in their known good ECU to determine is yours is bad.
 
        Jim Berry ==============================================
 
- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Cooper" <scooper@paradise.net.nz>
>
> > My computer is a remanufactured one - mine went bad a month or so
> > ago.  I had the capacitors replaced
>
> "Remanufactured" is salesman's talk for "replaced the capacitors", more
> than likely it's a dud. Try another one, one that you know that works.
 
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Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 08:05:29 -0800
From: "fastmax" <fastmax@cox.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Custom 6spd Gearbox from PowerHausII offered...
 
The problem is, if the guy develops the transmission he wants someone to buy it now not in 5 years. He was  trying to get response from people who are willing to buy one now. I'm interested but I don't have $8 grand  to spend on the tranny --- I'd have to be a hard core drag racer to spend 8 K on a tranny when my stock unit  is suitable for my needs, which includes road racing.
 
        Jim Berry ====================================================
 
- ----- Original Message -----
From: "John Stegall III" <jstegall@programmer.net>
 
> Yes, but what if the $8000 is worth it?  What if the 8K means the
> tranny lasts 2, 3, 4 or more times as long as the mitsu tranny?
Not to mention how much longer will our trannies be available, 5 or 10 years?  After that, I'm sure the  prices will get jacked up well above $2000 due to supply.
 
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Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 11:36:47 -0600
From: "Willis, Charles E." <cewillis@TexasChildrensHospital.org>
Subject: RE: Team3S: '99 Front-end
 
Sounds like the ducts to the intercoolers.  I don't have caps here at work, but sounds like they are  different on the 99 front end.
 
Chuck
 
- -----Original Message-----
From: Alex Pedenko [mailto:alex@kolosy.com]
Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2002 4:31 PM
 
Hey all,
 
The body shop is installing my '99 bumper and here's what they're telling me - they're saying that there is  some kind of a duct leading from the side intake scoops on the bumper to the intercoolers, and that since  the intake ducts on the new bumper are much larger that those of the old one (which they are), that you will  be able to see those ducts. What the hell are they talking about??? I thought there were no ducts or  anything - it was all part of the bumper???
 
Thanks,
 
Alex
'95 VR4
 
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Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 11:55:25 -0600
From: "Willis, Charles E." <cewillis@TexasChildrensHospital.org>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Transfer Case Success
 
just got my 2 recall notices from mitsu for my '93 and '94 in the mail yesterday.
 
haven't heard from my son about his yet.
 
Chuck Willis
 
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Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 11:22:20 -0600
From: "Willis, Charles E." <cewillis@TexasChildrensHospital.org>
Subject: RE: 3S-Racers: Re: Team3S: Custom 6spd Gearbox from PowerHausII offered...
 
I would say that 3 and 4 are used more often in road courses, rather than 2 and 3.
 
Chuck Willis
 
- -----Original Message-----
From: Damon Rachell [mailto:damonr@mefas.com]
Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 1:45 PM
Subject: Re: 3S-Racers: Re: Team3S: Custom 6spd Gearbox from PowerHausII offered...
 
has anyone ever figured out if the gearing from the 5 & 6 speeds are
interchangeable?  For instance, road racers might want 1, 2, and 5 from
the 5-speed while 3 & 4 from the 6 since 2 & 3 are used most and this
combo offers closer ratios.   maybe even swap in the 6th gear into a 5
speed box for greater fuel economy.
 
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Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 10:05:33 -0800
From: "Geddes, Brian J" <brian.j.geddes@intel.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Transfer Case Success
 
I just got mine yesterday for my '94.  Does anyone have results from going into the dealer?  Has anyone been  hassled for running Redline or similar non-stock fluids in the transfer case?
 
- - Brian
 
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Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 12:10:49 -0600
From: AINut <ainut1@telocity.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Custom 6spd Gearbox from PowerHausII offered...
 
It's hard to buy an $8,000 item on pure speculation, especially if there is no
proof that the "new design" is any better than the old design.  Not trying to be
a smart-alek here, just an informed customer who can't waste that kind of money.
 
AI Nut
 
fastmax wrote:
> The problem is, if the guy develops the transmission he wants someone
> to buy it now not in 5 years. He was trying to get response from
> people who are willing to buy one now. I'm interested but I don't have
> $8 grand to spend on the tranny --- I'd have to be a hard core drag
> racer to spend 8 K on a tranny when my stock unit is suitable for my
> needs, which includes road racing.
>
>         Jim Berry ====================================================
 
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Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 12:24:11 -0600
From: AINut <ainut1@telocity.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Transfer Case Success
 
Haven't received mine yet.  Still waiting.
 
AI Nut
 
Willis, Charles E. wrote:
> just got my 2 recall notices from mitsu for my '93 and '94 in the mail
> yesterday.
>
> haven't heard from my son about his yet.
 
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Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 13:57:11 -0500
From: "Joseph" <spinixguy@directvinternet.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Transfer Case Success
 
I took mine in the day after the recall was announced. They replaced the TC with a new one and did not even  mention the red line I was running in the old one. All in all they had the car for two days.
 
Joseph
93 vr-4
 
- -----Original Message-----
From: Geddes, Brian J
Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 1:06 PM
 
I just got mine yesterday for my '94.  Does anyone have results from going into the dealer?  Has anyone been  hassled for running Redline or similar non-stock fluids in the transfer case?
 
- - Brian
 
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Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 11:03:54 -0800
From: "Geddes, Brian J" <brian.j.geddes@intel.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Transfer Case Success
 
Wow!!  Did you have obvious symptoms or visible damage to your transfer case?  And what dealership did you  go to...I may go to the same place if it's anyplace nearby!  :)
 
> I took mine in the day after the recall was announced. They
> replaced the TC with a new one and did not even mention the
> red line I was running in the old one. All in all they had
> the car for two days.
>
> Joseph
> 93 vr-4
 
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Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 13:59:50 -0600
From: "Willis, Charles E." <cewillis@TexasChildrensHospital.org>
Subject: RE: 3S-Racers: Re: Team3S: Custom 6spd Gearbox from PowerHausII offered...
 
I think the 2nd gen 3 and 4 are shorter than the 1st gen, and I believe I get more torque at the same speeds  in the same gear because of the higher rpms and boost.  There is something to be said for taller gears,  though, because they seem to encourage carrying more momentum through corners.
 
Chuck
 
- -----Original Message-----
From: Damon Rachell [mailto:damonr@mefas.com]
Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 2:04 PM
 
So, if you could swap gears from a 6 speed in a 5 or vice versa, what
would you choose?  I'd think that the shorter 3 & 4 would be much more
of an advantage than a taller 3 & 4.  And you're right, I wasn't
thinking.  3&4 are used almost exclusively, with the exception sometimes
of turn 5 at willow springs.
Damon
 
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Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 15:35:31 -0700
From: "Damien" <dabinch@actionsd.com>
Subject: Team3S: Safe boost level?
 
'93 VR-4 Stock except K&N cone and A'pexi AVC-R and Autometer mech boost
gauge.  What is a "safe" level of boost?
 
Damien
 
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Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 17:39:13 -0500
From: "Mihai Raicu" <mraicu@wayne.edu>
Subject: Team3S: RE: Transfer case recall
 
Do you think I should take out the AVC-R Electronic boost controller and
K&N Filter b/f going to the dealer for the recall (if it's going to come
in the mail soon)?  I wouldn't want them to find an excuse not to
replace the Transfer Case. 
 
What do you guys think?
 
- -MIKE-
95 3000GT VR4
Michigan
 
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Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 17:45:41 -0500
From: "Furman, Russell" <RFurman2@MassMutual.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: RE: Transfer case recall
 
I would leave the K&N in if it a EPA/CARB compliant unit (includes and silly
sticker to be compliant but hey what do I know)
 
As for the AVCR, hell yes get that thing outta there.  (just remove all the
components which hook to the main harness and just pull the harness into the
passenger compartment and hide it near the ECU) just to reduce the risk of
you damaging the ecu wire harness....
 
Russ F
CT  "royally annoyed with the aftermarket parts world for our cars"
93 VR-4 Under the knife since 06/02 :/
 
- -----Original Message-----
From: Mihai Raicu [mailto:mraicu@wayne.edu]
Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 5:39 PM
 
Do you think I should take out the AVC-R Electronic boost controller and
K&N Filter b/f going to the dealer for the recall (if it's going to come
in the mail soon)?  I wouldn't want them to find an excuse not to
replace the Transfer Case. 
 
What do you guys think?
 
- -MIKE-
95 3000GT VR4
Michigan
 
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Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 16:49:08 -0600
From: AINut <ainut1@telocity.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: RE: Transfer case recall
 
Plus, if they don't know it's there, they can't steal it.
 
AI Nut
 
Furman, Russell wrote:
> I would leave the K&N in if it a EPA/CARB compliant unit (includes and silly
> sticker to be compliant but hey what do I know)
>
> As for the AVCR, hell yes get that thing outta there.  (just remove all the
> components which hook to the main harness and just pull the harness into the
> passenger compartment and hide it near the ECU) just to reduce the risk of
> you damaging the ecu wire harness....
>
> Russ F
> CT  "royally annoyed with the aftermarket parts world for our cars"
> 93 VR-4 Under the knife since 06/02 :/
 
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Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 15:46:34 -0700
From: Gabe Simoes <Gabe92RTTT@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Safe boost level?
 
I'd say 14psi.  I think your turbos might run a little on the hot side
because of your stock exhaust but I see no problem. Rewire your fuel pump
and do the bypass mod.
 
- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Damien" <dabinch@actionsd.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 3:35 PM
 
> '93 VR-4 Stock except K&N cone and A'pexi AVC-R and Autometer mech boost
> gauge.  What is a "safe" level of boost?
 
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Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 17:56:39 -0500
From: Mark Frouhar <mfrouhar@bear.com>
Subject: Team3S: Transfer case question
 
Dumb question but I've searched through the factory manual and still don't
have an answer.
 
Is there a separate fill and drain plug for the transfer case?  Or does it
just get filled when you fill tranny?
 
  thanks
 
   -Mark Frouhar
    95 VR4
    85 TA 434 DFI T56
    http://legoland.fbody.com
 
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Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 00:09:41 +0100
From: "Roger Gerl" <roger.gerl@bluewin.ch>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Safe boost level?
 
For the stock fuel system its 1.00 Bar boost level in between 4500 and 5500
rpm max.
 
And no, bypassing the fuel pump relay is not recommended at all unless the
relay connections are corroded. Even then the stuff should be cleaned but
not bypassed.
 
Roger
93'3000GT TT
www.rtec.ch
 
- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Gabe Simoes" <Gabe92RTTT@comcast.net>
Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 11:46 PM
 
> I'd say 14psi.  I think your turbos might run a little on the hot side
> because of your stock exhaust but I see no problem. Rewire your fuel pump
> and do the bypass mod.
 
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Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 15:13:43 -0800 (PST)
From: Roger L <yiotta@yahoo.com>
Subject: Team3S: Nobody with Carfax?
 
My, times they are a changin...Nobody has a carfax acct?  I need to check a VIN on a 95 VR4 Spyder...Guess I  will have to open one....I will wait and see if I get a response. Thanks!
 
Roger L
F15DOC
 Rose Bowl 2002!
 
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Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 15:30:19 -0800
From: "Gross, Erik" <erik.gross@intel.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Transfer case question
 
There are separate drain and fill plugs for the transaxle and the transfer
case, for a total of 4.  They are 17mm and all use the same (aluminum?)
crush washer, aka gasket. 
 
On the 1st generation cars, there is an additional check plug (ok, so some
cars have 5 plugs) and IIRC, it's 14mm. 
 
Be sure you/they replace the gaskets, especially if you have an aluminum
case (all transaxles and I think 1G transfers).  You have a cast iron
transfer case, so you probably don't need to be paranoid about the monkeys
using an impact wrench to put the drain plug back on, but you never know.
 
Dealer monkeys stripped my transaxle drain plug before I bought the car...
so nice to take out the plug and have 3/4" long pieces of non-magnetic
aluminum threads come out, too...  grrrrr.  I think I may bring my transfer
case in to the dealer and plop it on the counter to deal with the recall :-)
That'd be amusing.
 
- --Erik
'95 VR-4  www.team3s.com/~egross
 
> Is there a separate fill and drain plug for the transfer
> case?  Or does it just get filled when you fill tranny?
>    -Mark Frouhar
>     95 VR4
 
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Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 15:34:10 -0800
From: "Gross, Erik" <erik.gross@intel.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Safe boost level?
 
> I'd say 14psi.  I think your turbos might run
> a little on the hot side because of your stock
> exhaust but I see no problem. Rewire your fuel
> pump and do the bypass mod.
 
Don't do the fuel pump relay bypass mod - that just serves to make you run
rich at idle.  Do the rewire this way and you get the same WOT voltage and
still have a reasonable (lower) voltage at idle and low load:
 
http://www.team3s.com/~egross/3000GT/FPReWire/page1.html
 
- --Erik
'95 VR-4  www.team3s.com/~egross
 
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Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 18:50:29 -0500
From: songsay@cs.com
Subject: Team3S: safe boost
 
hey, so I got a question. I heard someone mention that the stock exhaust will cause the turbos to run hot.  so is it a suggestion to get a less restrictive exhaust if you up the boost to say 15? does the  "aftermarket" exhaust allow the turbos to run cooler?
 
                          songsay
                       92 vr4
 
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Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 18:54:20 -0500
From: "Darren Schilberg" <dschilberg@pobox.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Transfer Case Success
 
Do they replace the fluid in there with what was already in there (same
brand) or their cheap Mitsu stuff?  Whether it is Red Line or Amsoil or
something else non-Mitsu brand it is more expensive and if it was only
put in there 10k miles ago (my case) then I don't want them dumping that
on the floor and filling with their cheap stuff.  Will they spring for
the exact replacement fluid - anyone know?
 
- --Flash!
 
- -----Original Message-----
From: Joseph
Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 13:57
 
I took mine in the day after the recall was announced. They replaced the
TC with a new one and did not even mention the red line I was running in
the old one. All in all they had the car for two days.
 
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Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 17:53:34 -0600 (CST)
From: Geoff Mohler <gemohler@www.speedtoys.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Transfer Case Success
 
They'll use what is recommended.
 
Its silly to suggest they pay for redline..however, I'm sure they'd put in
whatever you took them in most cases.
 
On Tue, 17 Dec 2002, Darren Schilberg wrote:
 
> Do they replace the fluid in there with what was already in there (same
> brand) or their cheap Mitsu stuff?  Whether it is Red Line or Amsoil or
> something else non-Mitsu brand it is more expensive and if it was only
> put in there 10k miles ago (my case) then I don't want them dumping that
> on the floor and filling with their cheap stuff.  Will they spring for
> the exact replacement fluid - anyone know?
>
> --Flash!
 
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Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 16:00:34 -0800
From: Michael Gerhard <gerhard1@llnl.gov>
Subject: Team3S: Transfer Case Recall - update
 
The previous owner of my car (who is also the original owner) gave me the
recall notice and I called Concord Mitsubishi (California) to schedule an
appointment. They said they are on their 6th vehicle and have only had to
replace one unit. They are basing their judgment on the amount of fluid in
the transfer case. If it is dry then they assume burned up. If it is low,
they are overhauling. If it is full I think all they do is replace the
fluid and test the vehicle.
 
I'm going in on the 23rd. They said it takes about an hour for the simple
case and if they replace the transfer case it takes 2 days, assuming they
are not back ordered. I will report on what they do to my '91 VR4.
 
I really appreciate this list. Thanks for all the expertise ya'll (that's
Texan speak) bring to the 3S world.
 
- --------------------------------------------------------------
Michael A. Gerhard     1991 Mitsubishi 3000GT VR4  Pearl White
 
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Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 01:06:01 +0100
From: "Roger Gerl" <roger.gerl@bluewin.ch>
Subject: Re: Team3S: safe boost
 
You may ask the person where he measures the temperature that should become
higher and what the relation is to the pressure in the intake manifold then.
 
An aftermarket exhaust does nothing until the precats have been removed.
Search in the FAQ and the archive for more on that topic. This then helps to
spool the turbos up quicker and decreasing the backpressure to the turbine
wheel. The pressure may then hold longer in the rpm band. But you will still
not have enough fuel to support the amount of air forced in !
 
Roger
93'3000GT TT
www.rtec.ch
 
- ----- Original Message -----
From: <songsay@cs.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 12:50 AM
 
> hey, so I got a question. I heard someone mention that the stock exhaust
will cause the turbos to run hot. so is it a suggestion to get a less
restrictive exhaust if you up the boost to say 15? does the "aftermarket"
exhaust allow the turbos to run cooler?
>
>                           songsay
>                        92 vr4
 
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Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 22:29:19 -0500
From: "David Thrower" <repairerr@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: RE: Team3S: RE: Transfer case recall
 
 Hi Guys,
 I keep seeing success stories about the Transfer Case Recall on the 3000GT,
but has anyone who owns a Stealth heard from Chrysler yet?
 Dave Thrower
 92 Stealth R/T TT
 
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Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 21:30:29 -0600
From: "cody" <overclck@satx.rr.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: RE: Transfer case recall
 
Actually, someone on the 3SI mailing list was notified, and they have a
Stealth, so, obviously, Dodge is ponying up the money to do this too...
 
- -Cody
 
- -----Original Message-----
From: David Thrower
Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 9:29 PM
 
 Hi Guys,
 I keep seeing success stories about the Transfer Case Recall on the
3000GT,
but has anyone who owns a Stealth heard from Chrysler yet?
 Dave Thrower
 92 Stealth R/T TT
 
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Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 22:49:15 EST
From: M3000GTSL84@aol.com
Subject: Team3S: Chrome Wheel peeling
 
While washing my car yesterday I noticed that the chrome is kind of popping
off the wheel around the wheel lip. I took the wheel off and looked around
the back, where the chrome sealing was actually PEELing off the wheel.  All 4
wheels have the same problem.
 
Why is this? I wash them and wax them with protectant regularly. They are the
97-99 style SL 17 inch rims. Anyway I can further prevent this? Was there a
recall on this?
thanx guys
 
- -mike
97 SL
 
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Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 22:06:47 -0600
From: "Alex Pedenko" <alex@kolosy.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Chrome Wheel peeling
 
Move to California ;)
 
But seriously, iirc, you're out east, right? Whatever the case, road
salt is an absolute killer to chrome - from what I've heard just about
the only way to drive through winter on chromes is to wash and wax them
almost daily.
 
The easiest way (if you have the money) is to get a set of beater rims
for the winter... it's what I did (well that plus the fact that a
pothole ruined one of my 18" vr4 chromies which have a price tag of 700+
new each)
 
Alex
'95 VR4 lasting the Chicago/Michigan winter on non-chrome 17"
Fittipaldi's
 
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Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 23:24:20 EST
From: Klusmanp@aol.com
Subject: Re: Team3S: RE: Transfer case recall
 
Has anyone had the transfer case replaced due to worn male/female spline
shaft from the tranny to the transaxle?
 
I would think it is reasonable to imagine a transfer case lockup if the
spline shaft let go while driving.
 
Here is the big question: If the female spline in the transaxle is worn, and
the male spline in the tranny is worn Mitsu should replace BOTH tranny and
transaxle, right? (too bad you can't service/rebuild the tranny. Heh heh heh.)
 
Paul Klusman
'91 VR-4
 
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Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 23:28:03 EST
From: Rod2414738@aol.com
Subject: Re: Team3S: RE: Transfer case recall
 
I bought my '93 Stealth R/T TT on the 1st of October and hadn't received
anything in the mail.  I called the dealer and they told me to take them my
VIN number (last 9 digits I think) and the mileage.  They looked it up and
informed me that the recall is still outstanding on my car.  My car was still
listed under the previous owner.  I am taking it in on Monday to have it
looked over.  My transfer case has been leaking since I bought the car, so it
will be obvious that the TC case is leaking.  I check the level at least once
a week.  I will let you know what happens on Monday.
 
- -Rod
'93 Stealth R/T TT
 
In a message dated 12/17/2002 7:28:34 PM Pacific Standard Time,
repairerr@worldnet.att.net writes:
 
> Hi Guys,
>   I keep seeing success stories about the Transfer Case Recall on the 3000GT,
>  but has anyone who owns a Stealth heard from Chrysler yet?
>   Dave Thrower
>   92 Stealth R/T TT
 
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Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 23:42:54 -0500
From: "Joseph Spainhour" <spinixguy@directvinternet.com>
Subject: Team3S: driver side plenum stay bolt.
 
Does anyone know of a good way to get the driver side plenum stay bolt
on?
The rest of the plenum is on and I can get the bolt in, but it does not
want to screw in all of the way and I am afraid of putting too much
torque on it.
 
The stay is tight, but the bolt is not fully seated. Should I just leave
it until I need to check the plugs again? Can I just unbolt the front a
little and then put the bolt in, or will I need to get a new gasket.
 
Joseph
93 vr-4
 
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Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 22:44:14 -0600
From: "Oskar Persson" <osk@attbi.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: RE: Transfer case recall
 
Yes - several of us Minnesota R/T TT owners have received one.
 
Oskar
'95 R/T TT
www.mn3s.org
 
- -----Original Message-----
From: David Thrower
Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 9:29 PM
 
 Hi Guys,
 I keep seeing success stories about the Transfer Case Recall on the
3000GT,
but has anyone who owns a Stealth heard from Chrysler yet?
 Dave Thrower
 92 Stealth R/T TT
 
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Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 02:46:41 EST
From: Czarcd@aol.com
Subject: Re: Team3S: RE: Transfer case recall
 
I called Dodge today...and they confirmed the recall on the RT/TTs.  They are
going to call me back with the details.  For those of you who have had the TC
replaced was it automatic....or do they check your old one out first then
make a determination on whether you need one or not.
 
Carlo
91 Stealth RT TT
 
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Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 09:40:09 +0100
From: Roger Gerl <roger.gerl@bluewin.ch>
Subject: Re: Team3S: driver side plenum stay bolt.
 
I don't really know that you used the right bolt with the appropriate
length ? They all should screw in easily without much torque then. The
torque for all the bolts can be found in the repair manual. No, you don't
need a new gasket.
 
Roger
93'3000GT TT
www.rtec.ch
 
At 23:42 17.12.2002 -0500, Joseph Spainhour wrote:
>Does anyone know of a good way to get the driver side plenum stay bolt
>on?
>The rest of the plenum is on and I can get the bolt in, but it does not
>want to screw in all of the way and I am afraid of putting too much
>torque on it.
>
>The stay is tight, but the bolt is not fully seated. Should I just leave
>it until I need to check the plugs again? Can I just unbolt the front a
>little and then put the bolt in, or will I need to get a new gasket.
>
>Joseph
>93 vr-4
 
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Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 07:21:40 -0600
From: "William Jeffrey Crabtree" <wjcrabtree@earthlink.net>
Subject: RE: Team3S: driver side plenum stay bolt.
 
I agree with roger, having just put together mine about a week ago, all of
the bolts should just basically be able to be driven in with your bare
fingers and then tightened with a wrench.  You likely have two bolts mixed
up and the one you are having difficulty with is probably "bottoming out" in
the hole....don't  try to tighten it and twist it off in the hole!!!
You'll then have a WHOLE NEW PROBLEM.
 
- -Jeff C.
 
- -----Original Message-----
From: Roger Gerl
Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 2:40 AM
 
I don't really know that you used the right bolt with the appropriate
length ? They all should screw in easily without much torque then. <<SNIP>>
 
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Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 09:53:04 -0500
From: "Starkey, Jr., Joseph" <starkeyje@bipc.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: RE: Transfer case recall
 
I have not.
 
- -----Original Message-----
From: David Thrower [mailto:repairerr@worldnet.att.net]
Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 10:29 PM
Subject: RE: Team3S: RE: Transfer case recall
 
 Hi Guys,
 I keep seeing success stories about the Transfer Case Recall on the
3000GT, but has anyone who owns a Stealth heard from Chrysler yet?
 Dave Thrower
 92 Stealth R/T TT
 
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