Team3S: 3000GT & Stealth   Friday, December 6 2002   Volume 02 : Number 018
 
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Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2002 22:17:49 EST
From: Rod2414738@aol.com
Subject: Team3S: Wastegate solenoid clicking
 
Hello all!  Tonight I finally determined that the annoying ticking from my
'93 Stealth R/T TT when cold is the wastegate solenoid mounted to the
firewall.  I removed it from the holder and the ticking inside the car went
away, but I could still feel the solenoid opening and closing.  The click is
maybe a 2 or 3 Hz rate.  Do I need to be concerned driving my car with the
bad solenoid?  I'm guessing that the wastegates will not operate that fast
since they are vacuum controlled.  Should I replace it with an OEM solenoid,
or is there an aftermarket solenoid that I would be happier with?  Currently
my car is stock (except for a K&N panel filter) and I don't really have any
mods planned for it.
 
- -Rod
'93 Stealth TT
 
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Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2002 19:43:15 -0800
From: "Riyan Mynuddin" <riyan@hotpop.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Wastegate solenoid clicking
 
you could get boostvalve.com MBC and get rid of that solenoid. No more ticking, and if you ever do  decide to mod it, you'll be ready.
 
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Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2002 17:40:05 +1300
From: "Steve Cooper" <scooper@paradise.net.nz>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Wastegate solenoid clicking
 
The solenoid wont be faulty, more likely the thing that drives it, the ECU on its way out.
 
Steve
 
> you could get boostvalve.com MBC and get rid of that solenoid. No more
> ticking, and if you ever do decide to mod it, you'll be ready.
 
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Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2002 21:49:59 -0800
From: "Tigran Varosyan" <tigran@tigran.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: 5-speed to 6-speed conversion?
 
Actually, I have been told that racers like the 5 speed better. I can see how this can be the case  with drag racing. 3rd gear in a 5 speed redlines at 120mph (I think). In 6 speed, they redline at  lower speed thus if your car is modded to run fast, you may need to shift into 4th or hit the rev  limiter for the last few yards.
 
Just what I heard.
 
Ether way, you want to get the 24 (or 25?) Spleen Output shaft which I think comes in all 6 speeds  and in late 92-93 5 speeds.
 
Tyson
 
- -----Original Message-----
From: Riyan Mynuddin
Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2002 1:03 PM
Subject: Team3S: 5-speed to 6-speed conversion?
 
While I'm here swapping transfer cases and trannys should I do 5spd to 6spd conversion? Would I be  sacrificing 5-spd long life vs. 6-spd performance? Or would the Kormex fixes take care of the  6-spd's reliability issues anyway?
 
And are there any other factors to consider?
 
Riyan
93 stealth rt tt
 
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Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2002 01:09:03 -0500
From: "Planet" <planet.j@sympatico.ca>
Subject: Team3S: Broken air conditioner.
 
I have a 92 Stealth NA SOHC, with air conditioning. I know the air condition doesn't work. It was  like that when I bought it. I'm not sure if it is worth fixing because I know it is gonna cost me  an arm and a leg. Since I never think I want to fix the system. Can I remove any parts to save  some weight. Also the belts are still connected to the compressor. Can I just remove/cut them off?  Is it robbing power?
 
Thanks
Jay
 
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Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2002 00:44:43 -0600
From: AINut <ainut1@telocity.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Broken air conditioner.
 
Depends upon what is wrong with it.  If it's the A/C clutch, or the compressor,
look in a junk yard and get something equivalent for probably $40 or $50.  If
it's just low on refrigerant, fix the leak and recharge.  Are you anywhere near
Huntsville, Alabama?  When the A/C is running, yes it can rob a couple of hp.
When off, almost no hp drain.  Of course, it could just be a cheap and simple
fuse 8-).
 
HTH,
AI Nut
 
Planet wrote:
> I have a 92 Stealth NA SOHC, with air conditioning. I know the air
> condition doesn't work. It was like that when I bought it. I'm not sure
> if it is worth fixing because I know it is gonna cost me an arm and a
> leg. Since I never think I want to fix the system. Can I remove any
> parts to save some weight. Also the belts are still connected to the
> compressor. Can I just remove/cut them off? Is it robbing power?
>
> Thanks
> Jay
 
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Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2002 00:16:34 -0800 (PST)
From: Brody Martin <brody_martin@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Broken air conditioner.
 
I have had the same thoughts but it get too hot around
here during the summertime. I found out that I need a
condenser or whatever that little round thing is above
the drivers headlight. The only problem is that it
costs a lot here. Any ideas on where to get one?
 
I don't think that it would be a big problem to take
the system off the car. I did it on a different car
and it was easy just time consuming. You will cut
weight but I don't know how much. What is wrong with
the A/C system? Is it a simple leak of a part failure?
 
Brody
93 Stealth SOHC
> Planet wrote:
> > I have a 92 Stealth NA SOHC, with air
> conditioning. It was like that when I bought it.
> I'm not sure if it is worth fixing because I
> know it is gonna cost me an arm and a leg.
 
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Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2002 00:58:06 -0800
From: "Riyan Mynuddin" <riyan@hotpop.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Broken air conditioner.
 
There should be an observation eye somewhere that you can use to see if the Freon is low on  charge. Bubbles appear when you're low (usually there is still some cooling ability left when you  see bubbles). However, if all the Freon leaked out then the observation eye prob. won't do you  much good. And rather than 3S, I'm speaking "generally" here. When I get my shop manuals back,  I'll try to be more specific. You could also just poke at the Freon charge/filler valve with a  dull pencil or small shaft of some sort and listen just to see if there's ANY Freon left in there.  If you hear no sound or very little sound, then you could go ahead and put some leakfinder dye in  there since your problem is surely a leak in the system. Drive around a few days and then see  where the dye leaked out.
 
And remember:
 
Low Freon = low lubricant circulation
 
If your compressor still works, you don't want to fry it by letting it run dry (low on Freon).
 
Good luck,
Riyan
 
- -----Original Message-----
From: Planet
Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2002 10:09 PM
Subject: Team3S: Broken air conditioner.
 
I have a 92 Stealth NA SOHC, with air conditioning. I know the air condition doesn't work. It was  like that when I bought it. I'm not sure if it is worth fixing because I know it is gonna cost me  an arm and a leg. Since I never think I want to fix the system. Can I remove any parts to save  some weight. Also the belts are still connected to the compressor. Can I just remove/cut them off?  Is it robbing power?
 
Thanks
Jay
 
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Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2002 01:00:59 -0800
From: "Riyan Mynuddin" <riyan@hotpop.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Broken air conditioner.
 
One more thing. If you can fix your A/C system without spending much money, then you can part it  out at your leisure. There's surely someone out there that needs it.
 
Riyan
93 stealth rt tt
 
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Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2002 08:20:58 -0500
From: "Starkey, Jr., Joseph" <starkeyje@bipc.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Broken air conditioner.
 
Maybe $40 or $50 for the part, but wait until to try to recharge it with
R12 (Freon).   That is, if you can even find R12.  Chances are, you'll
need to "upgrade" to R134 (?)--the non-Freon stuff-which no one will ever convince me is as good  and efficient as R12.
 
- -----Original Message-----
From: AINut [mailto:ainut1@telocity.com]
Sent: Friday, December 06, 2002 1:45 AM
Subject: Re: Team3S: Broken air conditioner.
 
Depends upon what is wrong with it.  If it's the A/C clutch, or the compressor,
look in a junk yard and get something equivalent for probably $40 or $50.  If
it's just low on refrigerant, fix the leak and recharge.  Are you anywhere near
Huntsville, Alabama?  When the A/C is running, yes it can rob a couple of hp.
When off, almost no hp drain.  Of course, it could just be a cheap and simple
fuse 8-).
 
HTH,
AI Nut
 
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Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2002 14:46:54 -0000
From: "Jeff Lucius" <jlucius@stealth316.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Broken air conditioner.
 
>> .... If it's the A/C clutch, or the compressor, look in a junk yard
>> and get something equivalent for probably $40 or $50. .....
 
IMHO, it is a complete waste of money to buy a used AC compressor for direct
installation - unless you know for a fact that the compressor works and was
just removed from a vehicle. If it has been sitting for any length of time
(well maybe 6 mo to a year or longer) the seals are likely trashed (something
to think about when storing the car for extended periods). Considering that a
typical core charge is around $100, a used compressor in good condition for
$50 might be worth something for rebuilding. Don't even consider a used
receiver-drier.
 
I found Hancock industries in Abilene, TX
( 1-800-289-8282, http://www.hancockindustries.com/ )
to have the best prices and service for rebuilt AC parts.
 
More info on my web pages below.
 
http://www.stealth316.com/2-ac-tips.htm
http://www.stealth316.com/2-ac-compressor.htm
 
Jeff Lucius, http://www.stealth316.com/
 
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Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2002 15:00:19 -0000
From: "Jeff Lucius" <jlucius@stealth316.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Wastegate solenoid clicking
 
>> The solenoid wont be faulty, more likely the thing that drives it,
>> the ECU on its way out.
 
My BC solenoid made the same annoying ticking sound - till I removed it.
However, I was (am) using the HKS EVC IV and its solenoid to control the
wastegates. That was several years ago. I have noticed no problems with my
original 10-year old factory ECU (fingers crossed - but I will be inspecting
the caps this winter). Perhaps coincidentally, boost was never more than 6-7
psi when I used that stock BC solenoid.
 
Rod,
I doubt there are aftermarket direct replacements. There have got to be
hundreds of extras "laying around", considering how many owners have installed
real boost control. Any year should work. If you get a '91-'93 model then
remove the small restrictor in one of the nipples to get '94+ boost levels. My
original is damaged from me fiddling with it; otherwise you could have it for
free.
 
If you choose to not replace it, then you could route the hoses correctly
(bypassing the solenoid to let all pressure go to the wastegates and get 6-7
psi max boost) and, optionally, use a small screw clamp (on the hose from the
y-pipe) to reduce pressure to the wastegates (and get an aftermarket boost
gauge to be safe). Certainly not the best solution, but very cheap and it
works (at least it did for me for a year).
 
Jeff Lucius, http://www.stealth316.com/
 
- ----- Original Message -----
From: <Rod2414738@aol.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2002 8:17 PM
Subject: Team3S: Wastegate solenoid clicking
 
Hello all!  Tonight I finally determined that the annoying ticking from my
'93 Stealth R/T TT when cold is the wastegate solenoid mounted to the
firewall.  ....
 
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Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2002 09:16:24 -0600
From: AINut <ainut1@telocity.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Broken air conditioner.
 
There are a couple of good alternatives to R12 which cost a little more than the
134a, but cool better.  I forget how much our cars need, something like 53
ounces or so?  That'd be at least 4 cans so only about $100 for R12.
 
AI Nut
 
Starkey, Jr., Joseph wrote:
> Maybe $40 or $50 for the part, but wait until to try to recharge it with
> R12 (Freon).   That is, if you can even find R12.  Chances are, you'll
> need to "upgrade" to R134 (?)--the non-Freon stuff-which no one will
> ever convince me is as good and efficient as R12.
 
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Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2002 09:35:01 -0600
From: "merritt@cedar-rapids.net" <merritt@cedar-rapids.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Broken air conditioner.
 
Jeff says:
>IMHO, it is a complete waste of money to buy a used AC compressor for
>direct installation - unless you know for a fact that the compressor works and was
>just removed from a vehicle. If it has been sitting for any length of time
>(well maybe 6 mo to a year or longer) the seals are likely trashed
 
A few years ago, I had an air conditioning client. What Jeff says is absolutely true. Once a  system goes dry, the Freon no longer protects seals and metal parts, and they quickly corrode. If  you put such a part on your system, it will die quickly. If you remove any air conditioning parts  from your car whilst performing mods or repairs, be certain that the parts remain sealed from the  atmosphere.
 
Joe says:
>R12 (Freon).   That is, if you can even find R12.  Chances are, you'll
need to "upgrade" to R134 (?)--the non-Freon stuff-which no one will ever convince me is as good  and efficient as R12.
 
Also absolutely correct. R12 went out of favor because of the Freon scare in the "Trillion Dollar  Hoax" about ozone depletion, and now it is extremely expensive. R134 works, but only in systems  designed for it from the gitgo.  Besides, even if you can keep R134 in a older system (R12 seals  cannot contain R134, and must be replaced), the cooling output is a fraction of R12. Therefore,  like Joe suggests, stick with R12 Freon as long as you can still find it.
 
Rich/slow old poop
 
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Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2002 09:54:40 -0600
From: "merritt@cedar-rapids.net" <merritt@cedar-rapids.net>
Subject: Team3S: Re: R12 replacements
 
At 09:16 AM 12/6/02 -0600, AINut wrote:
>There are a couple of good alternatives to R12 which cost a little more
>than the 134a, but cool better.
 
Few of the R12 alternatives work well and are a waste of money. If they actually worked,  commercial A/C shops would use them. Anything you can find in a can (except for R12) at a auto  parts store is probably worthless. Buyer beware! Here's a little something I found with Google:
 
>From http://www.allpar.com/eek/ac.html
 
>Beware of "quick 'n' easy" retrofits being hawked by all kinds of
>places.  You might get a mechanic saying that conversion to 134a is just a matter of vacuuming  the system and running-in a charge of 134a.  RUN. Or, you might run into someone who wants to  replace your R12 with "FR-12" or "Freeze-12" or "Frigc".  These three (and several others) are  simply 134a with an additive that makes it slightly less violently incompatible with 500sus  mineral oil.  RUN.  You might also get someone who wants to put OZ-12 or HC-12 into the system.   These two are blends of isobutane and isopropane.  They work very well in R-12 systems, and have  no oil incompatibility problems.  BUT, they are flammable.  To what degree this concerns you is an  individual matter.
 
>It's not as clear-cut as you might think, because *all* refrigerants
>are blended with oil in the actual system, and ALL refrigerants are
>violently flammable under catastrophic system breach conditions
>(refrigerant rushes out, creating aerosol mist of oil--BIG flameball
>whether it's R12, R134a, OZ-12, or whatever).  These hydrocarbon blends
>also are super cheap (about $1.25 for enough to charge a few systems). 
>BUT they aren't approved by the relevant regulatory bodies for use in
>auto A/C systems.
 
>The best method of repairing an R-12 system is still to repair any
>problems and use R-12.  The cost-per-pound savings of the
>less-expensive R134a are more than eaten up in changeover service work
>and reversed in failures that are almost guaranteed to happen.
 
As I understand it, R12 Freon is still made in third world countries, and is available worldwide.  The USA is, apparently, the only country that believes the ozone depletion junk science hoax.  Here, it is illegal to sell R12 to anyone other than a licensed air conditioning technician, but  that does not mean it is impossible to get -- just difficult. Therefore, just repair your a/c with  stock parts and reload with R12.
 
Rich/slow old poop
 
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Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2002 10:18:28 -0600
From: "Wieschhaus, Brandon Kenneth (UMR-Student)" <bwish@umr.edu>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Re: R12 replacements
 
I might've been sleeping or something, but why exactly is the theory of ozone depletion "junk  science"?  Maybe I'm just gullible or something, but I believe it's possible that these gases and  vapors and whatnot that we create w/ our autos, could definitely attack certain molecules...
    -b
 
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Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2002 11:22:01 -0500
From: "Planet" <planet.j@sympatico.ca>
Subject: Team3S: Broken air conditioner.
 
Thanks for all the responses,
 
I checked the little bubble thing, it is clear and I can see down a bit. I don't see bubbles or  anything. I pressed on the little valve on the hose coming from the drier and there sounded like  there was a good amount of pressure.
 
This I am not sure is normal, should the compressor always be spinning? Even with the a/c turned  off, the belt is tight and the compressor is spinning. The problem is I just don't get cold air  when it is turned on.
 
Jay
 
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Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2002 11:26:23 -0500
From: "Starkey, Jr., Joseph" <starkeyje@bipc.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Broken air conditioner.
 
When you say the compressor is spinning, are you talking about the pulley?  Or is the A/C clutch  engaged?  The pulley will always be spinning, and sometimes it looks like the compressor is  spinning with it. But it's not unless the A/C clutch is also engaged.
 
- -----Original Message-----
From: Planet [mailto:planet.j@sympatico.ca]
Sent: Friday, December 06, 2002 11:22 AM
Subject: Team3S: Broken air conditioner.
 
Thanks for all the responses,
 
I checked the little bubble thing, it is clear and I can see down a bit. I don't see bubbles or  anything. I pressed on the little valve on the hose coming from the drier and there sounded like  there was a good amount of pressure.
 
This I am not sure is normal, should the compressor always be spinning? Even with the a/c turned  off, the belt is tight and the compressor is spinning. The problem is I just don't get cold air  when it is turned on.
 
Jay
 
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Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2002 10:32:22 -0600
From: "merritt@cedar-rapids.net" <merritt@cedar-rapids.net>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Re: R12 replacements
 
At 10:18 AM 12/6/02 -0600, Wieschhaus, Brandon Kenneth (UMR-Student) wrote:
>I might've been sleeping or something, but why exactly is the theory of
>ozone depletion "junk science"?  Maybe I'm just gullible or something,
>but I believe it's possible that these gases and vapors and whatnot
>that we create w/ our autos, could definitely attack certain
>molecules...
 
In a nutshell, Machine Design magazine called it the "Trillion Dollar Hoax" a few years ago.  Essentially, they say that CFCs have NOTHING to do with ozone depletion which, like global  warming, is a natural phenomenon that comes and goes every few hundred years. Being in a  university, you have not been exposed to any such politically incorrect theories.
 
However, this is not the time or forum to discuss ozone depletion, global warming, or public  education.
 
If you want to discuss any of this off line, please e-mail me privately. Let's not continue a  discussion here, else the listkeepers will frown on us, and rightly so.
 
Rich/slow old poop
merritt@cedar-rapids.net
 
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Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2002 09:01:28 -0800
From: "fastmax" <fastmax@cox.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Re: R12 replacements
 
FWIW --- I'm certified to buy R-12. I took this grueling 20 question open book test after reading  a massive 15 page book on the what's and whys of Freon. The current problem with buying R12 as an  individual is that it's only available in 30# cans at about $30 per #.
 
        Jim Berry ================================================================
 
- ----- Original Message -----
From: <merritt@cedar-rapids.net>
 
> At 09:16 AM 12/6/02 -0600, AINut wrote:
> >There are a couple of good alternatives to R12 which cost a little
> >more than the 134a, but cool better.
>
> Few of the R12 alternatives work well and are a waste of money. If
> they actually worked, commercial A/C shops would use them.
 
Anything you can find in a can (except for R12) at a auto parts store is probably worthless. Buyer  beware! Here's a little something I found with Google:
 
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Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2002 17:33:09 +0000
From: "Joshua Keena" <teamkeena@hotmail.com>
Subject: Team3S: scissor style door conversion
 
I own a 98 3000GT SL, pearl white with moon roof.
Interested in making a modification to the doors from their current stock
configuration to a "scissor" style similar to a Lambo.
Has anyone seen this modification done?  What are the major obstacles in
making the customization?  Is there an aftermarket "hinge" or does anyone
have access to an exotic car cannibalization sight?
Thank you for your time.
 
Josh Keena
Kentucky
 
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Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2002 09:42:09 -0800 (PST)
From: Roger Ludwig <yiotta@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: scissor style door conversion
 
There are several threads on 3SI.org right now about
it... complete with some sweet pictures.
Perform a search and you will find it on 3SI.
See ya
Roger L
F15DOC
 
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Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2002 11:46:46 -0600
From: AINut <ainut1@telocity.com>
Subject: Team3S: Re: R12 replacements
 
The R12 replacement that has propane in it is my personal choice for
installation.  I can buy R12 and all, but I prefer the propane-based
refrigerants.  I use it in my old vehicles.  What the article doesn't tell you
is that R12 and R134a both have their flashpoints, plus all refrigerants have
some danger associated with them if handled improperly.  For example, R12
combined with moisture in the air will turn into phosgene gas, a deadly aerosol
poison.  There's more but I'd have to look it all up again 8-).
 
AI Nut
 
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Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2002 11:51:23 -0600
From: AINut <ainut1@telocity.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Re: R12 replacements
 
You can still find the 12/20 ounce cans at Autozone and they usually have the
best price around here.
 
AI Nut
 
fastmax wrote:
> FWIW --- I'm certified to buy R-12. I took this grueling 20 question
> open book test after reading a massive 15 page book on the what's and
> whys of Freon. The current problem with buying R12 as an individual is
> that it's only available in 30# cans at about $30 per #.
>
>         Jim Berry
 
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Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2002 11:37:17 -0800 (PST)
From: David Margrave <davidma@eskimo.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Re: R12 replacements
 
by the way, I have heard that R12 is still used in massive quantities everywhere besides the US.  Is this true?
 
I have heard that the timing of the whole ozone scare fortuitously coincided with the expiration of  Du Pont's patent on R12, at least in the US.  they are remarkably silent about it now.  Can we  expect another scare around about 2009 when the R134 patent expires?
 
I am glad to hear that there are some options.
 
Dave
 
On Fri, 6 Dec 2002, AINut wrote:
 
> The R12 replacement that has propane in it is my personal choice for
> installation.  I can buy R12 and all, but I prefer the propane-based
> refrigerants.  I use it in my old vehicles.  What the article doesn't
> tell you is that R12 and R134a both have their flashpoints, plus all
> refrigerants have some danger associated with them if handled
> improperly.  For example, R12 combined with moisture in the air will
> turn into phosgene gas, a deadly aerosol poison.  There's more but I'd
> have to look it all up again 8-).
>
> AI Nut
 
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Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2002 15:00:23 -0600
From: "Danny Swanson" <dizzydan_02@hotmail.com>
Subject: Team3S: another question about air conditioners
 
When I turned on my air conditioner one day it made a click noise and no air
blew out of it.  I tried turning the heat on and no air came out.  I was
wondering if anyone knew what happened and what that clicking sound might
have been when my air conditioner quit working.  I'm guessing a fuse to the
fan or something like that but how would I check one of the big black fuses
to see if its bad?
Thanks,
Danny
 
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Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2002 15:37:43 -0600
From: "merritt@cedar-rapids.net" <merritt@cedar-rapids.net>
Subject: Team3S: Ground Control questions
 
We just put the GAB struts in front, so I got a chance to look at everything closely once again.
 
I have the Ground Control setup with short Eibach springs, and the installation of camber plates  took away all my adjustment room, because plates drop the car two inches. If you plan to install  camber plates with a GC system, be sure to get long springs. Otherwise, you'll have my problem:  e.g., my car is lowered to the max yet it is adjusted as high as it will go on the threaded  collar.
 
See www.ground-control.com (go to application guide) for a picture of the GC system. The threaded  collar bottoms into the OEM spring landing.
 
I'd like to get my height adjustment back so we can corner weight the car. Ground Control's  solution is to buy longer springs at $90 each. Hmph. There's gotta be a better way.
 
Whaddaya think of these ideas?
 
Solution #1: If I could raise the threaded sleeve collar up an inch or two, I would get my  adjustment back. I thought that by slipping a fat 1-2 in. high spacer over the strut, it would  give the GC collar something else to bottom on. Anybody tried this? I am afraid that the weight  and tension might bend or split any ordinary spacer, so what metal should it be made from?. Should  the top of the spacer have a lip or a landing to keep the threaded sleeve collar from splitting or  spreading? After all, it's designed to fit into the spring landing, so maybe it expects such  protection.
 
Solution #2: If GC would just make a longer adjustment collar, it would solve the problem. Alas,  they'd rather sell longer springs. Anybody got any idea how we could fabricate such a threaded  collar? Is this something any machine shop could make? Or is the threaded collar made out of some  miracle metal, like unobtanium?
 
Solution #3: Can a spring shop duplicate what I have (550 lb springs), and just wind them an inch  or so longer? Is there any magic in Eibach springs?
 
Any other ideas? I had this discussion with GC about a year ago, and their solution was longer  springs. Maybe something has been developed since. 
 
Rich/slow old poop
 
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Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2002 17:27:55 -0500
From: "Dave and Becky Trent" <bdtrent@netzero.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Tein, JIC, wide rims and negative camber
 
Philip,
 
I had to use the H & R 15mm track spacers to clear my Big Reds with the aftermarket 18in. rims I'm  using.  The additional benefit of course being slightly less understeer at the track.  The rims  came from Discount Tire and the offset was supposed to be within 1-2mm of the stock rims.
 
Regards,
DaveT/92TT
 
- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Philip V. Glazatov" <gphilip@umich.edu>
Sent: Friday, December 06, 2002 7:21 AM
Subject: Re: Team3S: Tein, JIC, wide rims and negative camber
 
Thanks for the info, Dave.
 
Do you have to run those spacers, or you run them only because you want to? And what offset disks  do you have?
 
Philip
 
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Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2002 17:30:23 -0600
From: "Oskar Persson" <osk@attbi.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Wastegate solenoid clicking
 
Is there some truth to this statement, or is it speculation?
 
Reason for asking is that both my '95 TTs, and most of my friends TTs
behave like this.  I bought my first TT when it was only 3 years old,
and the ticking was present already then.  I have a hard time thinking
it is the ECU going out.  It always happens when the ambient temperature
gets down in the lower 40s.
 
Oskar
Minnesota
 
- -----Original Message-----
From: Steve Cooper
 
The solenoid wont be faulty, more likely the thing that drives it, the
ECU
on its way out.
 
Steve
 
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Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2002 16:10:07 -0800
From: "fastmax" <fastmax@cox.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Re: R12 replacements
 
R-12 at Autozone is incorrect, at least in California. I see on the web I can buy
12 one pound cans for about $300 but you need to be certified. I'd be surprised
if Autozone would stock anything they could only sell to customers with some sort
of certification.
 
To my knowledge heat causes R-12 [ and maybe others ????? ] to form Phosgene
gas.
 
        Jim Berry
 
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Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2002 19:48:33 -0700
From: "Erik Petterson" <erik@microworks.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Wastegate solenoid clicking
 
Here's my .02 ...  In my experience with a friends previous car...(a 95
Camaro) the starter solenoid would make really loud clicking noises, it
would click for a couple seconds and then start.  Finally one day it didn't
start at all.  We replaced the starter solenoid and that's all it was, just
a faulty solenoid.  Once replaced no more noises and immediate start.
 
I've never worked with turbos or even know what a wastegate solenoid looks
like, SO I might be totally wrong, but I'm assuming its just a wire that
goes to the wastegate and if it's faulty and going out it would make the
same noises that the Camaro's starter solenoid did.
 
I would replace the solenoid first.
 
- -Erik Petterson
'91 Stealth
 
> Is there some truth to this statement, or is it speculation?
>
> Reason for asking is that both my '95 TTs, and most of my friends TTs
> behave like this.  I bought my first TT when it was only 3 years old,
> and the ticking was present already then.  I have a hard time thinking
> it is the ECU going out.  It always happens when the ambient temperature
> gets down in the lower 40s.
>
> Oskar
> Minnesota
 
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Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2002 20:33:15 -0800 (PST)
From: Roger Ludwig <yiotta@yahoo.com>
Subject: Team3S: Maryland Members
 
This may be off topic slightly if so, sorry...
I need someone to look at a VR4 for me.
It is located in Maryland.
If anyone on this board is in that area, familiar with
the VR4 and willing to check one out for me, please
send me a note privately.
Sincerely,
Roger L
F15DOC
 
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