Team3S: 3000GT & Stealth  Thursday, November 21 2002  Volume 02 : Number 005
 
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Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 10:04:16 -0800
From: "Riyan Mynuddin" <riyan@hotpop.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Restore additive
 
The question is whether you actually had low oil pressure or your pressure warning sensor got  clogged with the Restore additive. Those warning sensors (according to Satan) get clogged  frequently. The engine flush that you used may have just cleaned the gunk out of the switch.  Either way, I'm still slightly hesitant to put any additive in my engine. But maybe I should get  over it, because I have the worst lifter tick! At least it gets better when she's warm. I'm  thinking about getting KrankVent....
 
Riyan
93 stealth rt tt
I'm hungry
 
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Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 18:15:52 +0000
From: nouveau3@attbi.com
Subject: RE: Team3S: Restore additive
 
I'm with you Riyun, very reluctant to use additives, especially any claiming
to "fill in".
Has anyone seen first hand a reduction in lifter tick, with Krank vents
installed?
 
> The question is whether you actually had low oil pressure or your
> pressure warning sensor got clogged with the Restore additive. Those
> warning sensors (according to Satan) get clogged frequently. The
> engine flush that you used may have just cleaned the gunk out of the
> switch. Either way, I'm still slightly hesitant to put any additive in
> my engine. But maybe I should get over it, because I have the worst
> lifter tick! At least it gets better when she's warm. I'm thinking
> about getting KrankVent....
>
> Riyan
> 93 stealth rt tt
> I'm hungry
 
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Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 13:32:35 -0500
From: "Furman, Russell" <RFurman2@MassMutual.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Restore additive
 
What I believe most people see with Krank Vents is decrease in crankcase pressure, which may  lead to more oil stating in the heads under boost?
 
Any one else have thoughts on this?
 
Russ F
CT
 
- -----Original Message-----
From: nouveau3@attbi.com [mailto:nouveau3@attbi.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2002 1:16 PM
Subject: RE: Team3S: Restore additive
 
I'm with you Riyun, very reluctant to use additives, especially any claiming
to "fill in".
 
Has anyone seen first hand a reduction in lifter tick, with Krank vents
installed?
 
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Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 10:40:17 -0800
From: Andrew Woll <awoll1@pacbell.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S: anyone ever heard of a magnetic pickup coil
 
There may very well be a replacement but it may be very hard to find. I had this very same  problem in my BMW 635 distributor. Everyone I talked to said there was no replacement for the  coil alone, but then a place in New Hampshire said there was one and sold it to me for 50. It  worked perfectly and the car ran fine for years. Keep asking various sources.
 
Andy
 
- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Marven Lamarre" <neoblackjack21@earthlink.net>
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2002 3:57 AM
Subject: Team3S: anyone ever heard of a magnetic pickup coil
 
| Hello everyone,
|
| I have been looking all over for a magnetic pickup coil replacement
| that goes inside my distributor. I need it for my 1992 Dodge Stealth
| SOHC that has that previously mentioned shutting down after warming up
| (usually during the colder months). If anyone knows where I can find
| it or a reliable dealer or even an OEM number I can use for searching
| it would be much appreciated. Thanks.
 
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Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 10:52:14 -0800
From: "Riyan Mynuddin" <riyan@hotpop.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Restore additive [now KrankVent]
 
The intake is actively sucking out the burnt oil and vapor from blow-by gases at all times.  That's the advantage of KrankVent... right? And if you use it in conjunction with a catch can  then I'd imagine that it would be very beneficial to get the vapors out of the valve cover. When  it gets that stuff out, it goes straight to the catch can rather than back to your intake tract.  For an inexpensive but very functional home-made catch can, see Erik Gross's peanut butter  injection  :)
 
http://www.speedtoys.com/~egross/3000GT/PCVCatchCan/PCVCatchCan.html
 
Also, perhaps it's the constant vacuum that is on the crankcase with Krank Vent that removes the  excess air and unwelcome vapors from the lifters and keeps them filled with oil like they should  be, thus minimizing, if not eliminating lifter tick.
 
The crankcase vacuum is discussed on Jeff L.'s page:
 
www.stealth316.com/2-krankvents.htm
 
That's all for now...
 
Riyan
93 stealth rt tt
 
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Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 14:57:48 -0500
From: "Andre Cerri" <cerri@intersystems.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Steering wheel swaps
 
After looking at replacing my wheel and getting quotes of $100 to fix it up, I hiked to a shoe  repair place and spent $7 on black leather dye.
 
One coat and it looks awesome......
 
Left it overnight, and has only a trace of tackiness when white knuckle gripping the wheel  (pretty commonplace in Boca during snowbird season though!!), and definitely no sign of residue.
 
Hope this helps someone else.
 
Andre
 
- -----Original Message-----
From: Andre Cerri
Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 1:48 PM
Subject: Team3S: Steering wheel swaps
 
Are the steering wheels all the same through the years? Specifically with regard to a 92. Don't  care about the stereo controls. Mine is totally scuffed up.
 
Any concerns about air bags when swapping?
 
All comments and suggestions welcome.
 
Thanks
 
Andre
 
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Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 12:48:26 -0800
From: Damon Rachell <damonr@mefas.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Borla, K&N Intake and BOV
 
I'd believe that the HP peak is not increased with an exhaust, though the
 
area under the cure is increased.  I've seen
 
increases in both 0-60mph times (gtech) as well as 1/4 times (gtech).
Both were dramatic, on the order of 0.3 seconds faster in 0-60 (from 5.6
average over 10 runs to 5.3sec) and 0.5sec gains in the 1/4.  Spool up
feels instantaneous without cats and a free flowing exhaust.  The turbo
spooling is a great rush now where as before, it felt labored and slow.
  So, if nothing else, spoolup time is shortened.
 
Originally, I thought it wouldn't make much difference, but afterwards,
I was very impressed with the SOTP feel.
 
Damon
 
>>An exhaust is about 17-20 but has another benefit, it is lighter and
>>allows you to remove the active exhaust motor.
>>
>
> Russ, you don't have a dyno sheet do you ?? The truth is ... zero gain
> unless boost is upped, and the precats, DP, Cat are gone. The weight
> is the most gain.
 
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Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 22:22:19 +0100
From: "Roger Gerl" <roger.gerl@bluewin.ch>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Borla, K&N Intake and BOV
 
> I'd believe that the HP peak is not increased with an exhaust, though
> the area under the cure is increased.  I've seen increases in both
> 0-60mph times (gtech) as well as 1/4 times (gtech).
> Both were dramatic, on the order of 0.3 seconds faster in 0-60 (from
> 5.6 average over 10 runs to 5.3sec) and 0.5sec gains in the 1/4.
 
This is due to the reduced weight. Look at the dynos, no gain for exhausts with the same boost  and this is over many cars.
 
> Spool up
> feels instantaneous without cats and a free flowing exhaust.
 
This is due to the missing precats !
 
> Originally, I thought it wouldn't make much difference, but
> afterwards, I was very impressed with the SOTP feel.
 
Sure, but only remove the precats and you feel the difference. The other stuff is only for high  flow and should free more horses in the top end. But this only works when boost can be increased  a lot.
 
Roger
93'3000GT TT
www.rtec.ch
 
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Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 13:30:20 -0800
From: "Riyan Mynuddin" <riyan@hotpop.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Team 3S:  Lifter Tick GONE w/ 1 Can !!!
 
for those of you that feel like you really want to do this... do yourself a favor and introduce  it to your system slowly. There's nothing that seems more horrible than one huge glob of  additive dispersing itself through the lubrication system. What about all those little oil  galleys...? I'd personally feel more comfortable adding 1 to 2 ozs. per drive for about 2 weeks  or 14 "starts".  Now... that's assuming that I'd even use the stuff in the first place!
 
Riyan
 
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Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 16:46:25 -0500
From: "Starkey, Jr., Joseph" <starkeyje@bipc.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Team 3S:  Lifter Tick GONE w/ 1 Can !!!
 
I suppose someone is taking a tally out there, so I might as well make my position known.  I,  for one, will never use any additives, especially additives to the crankcase.  Too many  manufacturers make too many ridiculous claims about additives (one increases gas mileage, one  increases horsepower, "make your engine run better than new!) that I don't trust any of them.   (Remember that the manufacturer of Slick 50 found itself in some pretty heated litigation about  the claims it made about its product).  The only thing I'll ever add is the occasional bottle of  injector cleaner.  With that said, I remember quite some time ago (the early 80's to be exact),  GM had trouble with sticking/ticking lifters in its 350 engines.  The solution (which  occasionally, but not always worked) was to add a quart of GM SuperOil Supplement in place of a  quart of oil when you changed the oil.  I don't know what the heck SuperOil Supplement was, but  sometimes it took the tick away, and sometimes it didn't.
 
- -----Original Message-----
From: Riyan Mynuddin [mailto:riyan@hotpop.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2002 4:30 PM
Subject: RE: Team3S: Team 3S: Lifter Tick GONE w/ 1 Can !!!
 
for those of you that feel like you really want to do this... do yourself a favor and introduce  it to your system slowly. There's nothing that seems more horrible than one huge glob of  additive dispersing itself through the lubrication system. What about all those little oil  galleys...? I'd personally feel more comfortable adding 1 to 2 ozs. per drive for about 2 weeks  or 14 "starts".  Now... that's assuming that I'd even use the stuff in the first place!
 
Riyan
 
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Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 16:56:14 -0500
From: "Andre Cerri" <cerri@intersystems.com>
Subject: Team3S: Remote locking
 
Is this easy to add to a 92 with central locking only?
 
If so, what parts etc do you need?
 
Thx
 
Andre
 
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Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 13:41:59 -0600
From: "Willis, Charles E." <cewillis@TexasChildrensHospital.org>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Team 3S:  Lifter Tick GONE w/ 1 Can !!!
 
Once upon a time, I had two Galants.  The Mitsu dealer insisted on adding Restore additive  during the periodic maintenance on each car.  The cars ran fine during the three years I had  them.  Of course, neither had turbos and neither went on the track.
 
- -----Original Message-----
From: Andrew Woll [mailto:awoll1@pacbell.net]
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2002 12:42 PM
Subject: Re: Team3S: Team 3S: Lifter Tick GONE w/ 1 Can !!!
 
I have used restore in at least 5 cars and trucks. I have never had any problem and it has made  my engines run better - At least it seemed that way. I did not do any testing at all to confirm  it one way or the other.
 
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Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 10:41:35 -0800
From: Andrew Woll <awoll1@pacbell.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Team 3S:  Lifter Tick GONE w/ 1 Can !!!
 
I have used restore in at least 5 cars and trucks. I have never had any problem and it has made  my engines run better - At least it seemed that way. I did not do any testing at all to confirm  it one way or the other.
 
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From: <Rod2414738@aol.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 7:48 PM
Subject: Re: Team3S: Team 3S: Lifter Tick GONE w/ 1 Can !!!
 
| I've used Restore in the past on my normally aspirated cars and was
| impressed with the results.  I just wish they'd correct their TV
| commercials that show the oil coming from the top of the cylinder
| to fill in the scratches.  You don't have to understand engines
| very well to know that is not where the oil in the cylinder comes
| from unless you have problems with your engine that even Restore
| can't hope to fix.  Maybe I am not understanding the commercial
| correctly.
|
| -Rod
| '93 Stealth TT
 
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Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 16:42:47 -0600
From: Michael Provence <MProvence@gencofcu.org>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Team 3S:  Lifter Tick GONE w/ 1 Can !!!
 
I tried RESTORE about a year ago.  My car was ticking like a rabbit at a wolf convention.  Quite  embarrassing at times.  I used Seafoam, Marvel Mystery Oil, and various weighted oils to no  avail.  While I would hesitate to recommend any product without more information, I can say it  worked for me.  I have used it several times since and it MAY have even helped the long term  problem.  My last two oil changes I didn't use it and my engine sounds great.  Once again I am  not making any claims about this product and it is truly a personal decision concerning  additives.  Take it for what it's worth.
 
Mike
94 3000GT NA  
 
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Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 21:02:17 -0500
From: Vinny <vinman3@comcast.net>
Subject: Team3S: What the heck are the pre-cats?
 
Hey All,
       In reading others responses they say to gut or remove the precat(2). Do these affect  emissions testing and are they really cats?  Do they also make the exhaust (Borla) too loud?  I  don't want that.
 
Also I read that the only difference between the 300HP and the 320HP VR4's was the BOV.  Is this  true?  If not what is giving them 20 more ponies?
 
Thanks
Vinny
 
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Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 18:20:12 -0800
From: "fastmax" <fastmax@cox.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S: What the heck are the pre-cats?
 
Precats are to reduce emissions at startup --- they heat up fast and cut HC when the engine and  system is cold. Gutted precats should not show up on
smog tests but they can be detected in a visual inspection.
 
The difference in the 300 and 320 is the boost pressure which was raised
from 8 psi or so to 12 psi --- the BOV is to release pressure in the intercooler piping to  protect the turbos when the throttles are shut. No HP should be
added unless the BOV is leaking boost pressure.
 
        Jim Berry ====================================================
 
- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Vinny" <vinman3@comcast.net>
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2002 6:02 PM
Subject: Team3S: What the heck are the pre-cats?
 
> Hey All,
>        In reading others responses they say to gut or remove the
> precat(2). Do these affect emissions testing and are they really cats? 
> Do they also make the exhaust (Borla) too loud?  I don't want that.
>
> Also I read that the only difference between the 300HP and the 320HP
> VR4's was the BOV.  Is this true?  If not what is giving them 20 more
> ponies?
 
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Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 19:16:52 -0800
From: "Tigran Varosyan" <tigran@tigran.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: What the heck are the pre-cats?
 
How does a visual inspection detect a gutted precat? You mean if they take your exhaust off?
 
Tyson
 
- -----Original Message-----
From: fastmax
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2002 6:20 PM
Subject: Re: Team3S: What the heck are the pre-cats?
 
Precats are to reduce emissions at startup --- they heat up fast and cut HC when the engine and  system is cold. Gutted precats should not show up on smog tests but they can be detected in a  visual inspection.
 
The difference in the 300 and 320 is the boost pressure which was raised from 8 psi or so to 12  psi --- the BOV is to release pressure in the intercooler piping to protect the turbos when the  throttles are shut. No HP should be added unless the BOV is leaking boost pressure.
 
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Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 22:36:28 -0500
From: "David Thrower" <repairerr@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Ticking behind dash gauge pod
 
Probably the "Canister Purge Solenoid" doing its job?
 Dave Thrower
 
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Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 19:52:00 -0800
From: "fastmax" <fastmax@cox.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S: What the heck are the pre-cats?
 
All you have to do is tap on it and you can tell by the sound that it's not full of honeycomb  --- I'm not sure if they do that but I sure as hell would if I were the smog police.
 
        Jim Berry
 
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Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 23:06:17 -0500
From: "Alex Pedenko" <alex@kolosy.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: What the heck are the pre-cats?
 
If you were the smog police and actually cared about your job, maybe. But considering the fact  that at least in Illinois they have a hard enough time finding my gas tank lid, I don't think  they'd even know where to look for a precat, or even know that this car had one...
 
BTW, at least where I go, they don't have AWD dynos, so they do the check while the car is  idling. Does this mean that if I ran the crap out of her and then smogged her with no pre cats  and no main cat, I could pass?
 
Alex.
'95 VR4
 
- -----Original Message-----
From: fastmax
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2002 10:52 PM
Subject: Re: Team3S: What the heck are the pre-cats?
 
All you have to do is tap on it and you can tell by the sound that it's not full of honeycomb  --- I'm not sure if they do that but I sure as hell would if I were the smog police.
 
        Jim Berry
 
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Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 20:15:10 -0800
From: "Tigran Varosyan" <tigran@tigran.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: What the heck are the pre-cats?
 
Mar car did better in emissions with no cats than it ever has (previous 6
years) which were all done with cats. This considering that around the time I gutted the cats is  when my car started to burn a bit of oil. Cats are a scam!! And no, mine were not damaged or  clogged. They were PERFECT! Prefect pieces of ****.
 
Tyson
 
- -----Original Message-----
From: Alex Pedenko
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2002 8:06 PM
Subject: RE: Team3S: What the heck are the pre-cats?
 
If you were the smog police and actually cared about your job, maybe. But considering the fact  that at least in Illinois they have a hard enough time finding my gas tank lid, I don't think  they'd even know where to look for a precat, or even know that this car had one...
 
BTW, at least where I go, they don't have AWD dynos, so they do the check while the car is  idling. Does this mean that if I ran the crap out of her and then smogged her with no pre cats  and no main cat, I could pass?
 
Alex.
'95 VR4
 
- -----Original Message-----
From: fastmax
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2002 10:52 PM
To: Tigran Varosyan; 'TeamS3'
Subject: Re: Team3S: What the heck are the pre-cats?
 
All you have to do is tap on it and you can tell by the sound that it's not full of honeycomb  --- I'm not sure if they do that but I sure as hell would if I were the smog police.
 
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Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 20:42:05 -0800
From: "fastmax" <fastmax@cox.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S: What the heck are the pre-cats?
 
According to the rules out here in California the cars must pass a visual and an emissions test.  Most cars are run up on a dyno and inspected and tested but like Illinois there are no 4 wheel  dynos so they do an idle test. They do look under the car for modified exhaust and would notice  a missing cat and probably modified systems on the more popular cars. I plan on taking my car to  a place where they don't normally see the high end cars -- Pep Boys for example. Federal law  does not allow for any changes to the exhaust system from the cat forward --- cat back is  allowed. You're not even allowed to change the cat unless it's defective.
 
I'm hoping they can't tell the difference between a stock MAS and an ARCII, that way I won't  have to change out injectors and the ARC when I have it smoged in two years.
 
        Jim Berry ==================================================
 
- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Alex Pedenko" <alex@kolosy.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2002 8:06 PM
Subject: RE: Team3S: What the heck are the pre-cats?
 
> If you were the smog police and actually cared about your job, maybe.
> But considering the fact that at least in Illinois they have a hard
> enough time finding my gas tank lid, I don't think they'd even know
> where to look for a precat, or even know that this car had one...
>
> BTW, at least where I go, they don't have AWD dynos, so they do the
> check while the car is idling. Does this mean that if I ran the crap
> out of her and then smogged her with no pre cats and no main cat, I
> could pass?
>
> Alex.
> '95 VR4
 
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Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 00:12:01 -0500
From: "Alex Pedenko" <alex@kolosy.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: What the heck are the pre-cats?
 
Pep boys??? In Illinois they have special facilities set up... and they smog every year now...
 
Wow - I guess Illinois is trying to catch up to cali...
 
Oh well...
 
Alex.
 
- -----Original Message-----
From: fastmax
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2002 11:42 PM
Subject: Re: Team3S: What the heck are the pre-cats?
 
According to the rules out here in California the cars must pass a visual and an emissions test.  Most cars are run up on a dyno and inspected and tested but like Illinois there are no 4 wheel  dynos so they do an idle test. They do look under the car for modified exhaust and would notice  a missing cat and probably modified systems on the more popular cars. I plan on taking my car to  a place where they don't normally see the high end cars -- Pep Boys for example. Federal law  does not allow for any changes to the exhaust system from the cat forward --- cat back is  allowed. You're not even allowed to change the cat unless it's defective.
 
I'm hoping they can't tell the difference between a stock MAS and an ARCII, that way I won't  have to change out injectors and the ARC when I have it smoged in two years.
 
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Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 23:05:01 -0800
From: "Riyan Mynuddin" <riyan@hotpop.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: What the heck are the pre-cats?
 
a good idea if you have afc, arc, or other fuel correction system is to just run the car very  lean when you go in for the smog check. about cats being a "scam"... I wouldn't go as far as to  say that. but as tyson has experienced, if your car is very well tuned (especially if it's set  lean) then it may be able to pass without cats. cats offer a buffer zone between tune-ups so  that a car that's not in perfect shape can still pass. HC (unburned gas) is converted to carbon  dioxide and water by the cat. therefore, a car that's running moderately rich can still pass the  HC test. my 1990 infiniti had a bad o2 sensor (it constantly ran rich in limp home mode) and it  still passed smog. even if the ECU was reset, CEL would come on after about 20 minutes of  driving, indicating that the sensor was bad. I just reset the ECU before going in for a check  and everything went fine. recently I changed the o2 sensor since I wanted good gas mileage back  though.
 
in illinois they check smog yearly? here in cali we still only get checked once every 2 years  (that is, unless you receive a complaint from a disgruntled driver). since I also have 'high air  flow' through my exhaust, I'm gonna need to pull out the wallet and get creative when it comes  to be that time of the year... :)
 
riyan
93 rt tt
 
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Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 23:18:24 -0800
From: "Riyan Mynuddin" <riyan@hotpop.com>
Subject: Team3S: today's amazing experience, and a word of advice
 
Today I hotwired my fuel pump. I used the Lucius method which is very simple if you buy the kit  from Dynamic Racing. Erik's method is preferable if you don't have a fuel computer, but since I  do, I didn't worry about it. In order to avoid running very rich, my fuel correction on the  S-AFC needed to change more than 5% after the hot wire! The car also has doesn't hesitate as  much and has quicker throttle response. Plus, I'm less afraid to boost now. I have 450cc  injectors. Running a stock pump with high resistance wiring wasn't doing them much justice! I  was too cautious to boost past .5 bar before, and now I just might step it up to .7 or .8 bar.  This mod is very useful. Still, don't go insane on your car after the hotwire. Stock internals,  as many of us have learned the hard way, really shouldn't go past 1 bar.
 
Happy boosting!
 
Riyan
 
93 stealth rt tt
I can taste the power.
 
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Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 23:48:26 -0800
From: "Riyan Mynuddin" <riyan@hotpop.com>
Subject: Team3S: replacement idea for teflon tape?
 
I have tried screwing in my fuel pressure sensor t-fitting with teflon tape, and it still leaks.  I just can't get it to stop. I have tried using just 2 layers of teflon tape (the first time)  and up to 5 layers of it (the second
time) before screwing the barb fittings in. I use a vise and wrench to screw them very tight.  any ideas on an alternative? I do have some J-B weld...but unfortunately that would be a  one-shot deal. and if it leaked, there wouldn't be any going back! I searched the web and found  something called permatex thread sealant. should I try this? any other ideas?
 
thanks,
Riyan
 
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Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 08:15:07 -0500
From: "Starkey, Jr., Joseph" <starkeyje@bipc.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: What the heck are the pre-cats?
 
Pennsylvania's got the best deal.  No smog test for cars driven less than 5000 miles a year.   Since I only drive my car in nice weather, I never even get close to 5000 miles a year. 
 
- -----Original Message-----
From: Alex Pedenko [mailto:alex@kolosy.com]
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 12:12 AM
Subject: RE: Team3S: What the heck are the pre-cats?
 
Pep boys??? In Illinois they have special facilities set up... and they smog every year now...
 
Wow - I guess Illinois is trying to catch up to cali...
 
Oh well...
 
Alex.
 
- -----Original Message-----
From: fastmax
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2002 11:42 PM
Subject: Re: Team3S: What the heck are the pre-cats?
 
According to the rules out here in California the cars must pass a visual and an emissions test.  Most cars are run up on a dyno and inspected and tested but like Illinois there are no 4 wheel  dynos so they do an idle test. They do look under the car for modified exhaust and would notice  a missing cat and probably modified systems on the more popular cars. I plan on taking my car to  a place where they don't normally see the high end cars -- Pep Boys for example. Federal law  does not allow for any changes to the exhaust system from the cat forward --- cat back is  allowed. You're not even allowed to change the cat unless it's defective.
 
I'm hoping they can't tell the difference between a stock MAS and an ARCII, that way I won't  have to change out injectors and the ARC when I have it smoged in two years.
 
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Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 08:55:32 -0600
From: "merritt@cedar-rapids.net" <merritt@cedar-rapids.net>
Subject: RE: Team3S: What the heck are the pre-cats?
 
The chance of emission tests are one reason I went with the Stillen downpipe. It removes the  front pre cat and the main cat in one swell foop.  If emissions testing comes to Iowa, I can  replace the Stillen with the stock downpipe and cats in a few minutes.
 
Likewise, my original catback stock dual exhaust is in the garage if it has to go back on some  day to replace the straight-through single side system on there now.
 
I suspect that anyone who had to do this on a yearly basis would get so good at it that they  could swap exhaust systems on a Saturday morning on jackstands in their garage. Using stainless  steel studs and bolts throughout might make the swap much easier, too.
 
As for living in Pennsylvania, been there, done that. I found that $50 slipped under the table  to the inspector solved lots of problems. It's probably up to $100 by now...inflation, you know.
 
Rich/slow old poop
 
At 08:15 AM 11/21/02 -0500, Starkey, Jr., Joseph wrote:
>Pennsylvania's got the best deal.  No smog test for cars driven less
>than 5000 miles a year.  Since I only drive my car in nice weather, I
>never even get close to 5000 miles a year.
 
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Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 10:04:34 -0500
From: "Alex Pedenko" <alex@kolosy.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: What the heck are the pre-cats?
 
Michigan's better - there's no smog test, period.
 
- -----Original Message-----
From: Starkey, Jr., Joseph
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 8:15 AM
Subject: RE: Team3S: What the heck are the pre-cats?
 
Pennsylvania's got the best deal.  No smog test for cars driven less than 5000 miles a year.   Since I only drive my car in nice weather, I never even get close to 5000 miles a year. 
 
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Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 16:54:52 +0000
From: nouveau3@attbi.com
Subject: RE: Team3S: What the heck are the pre-cats?
 
Out here in Oregon, we have emission testing in the Portland metro area, as
well as in Eugene and Salem, it isn't state wide. They do dyno testing here but
fortunately no 4 wheel dynos, and they really don't look for aftermarket or
modifications.
 
We only have to test every two years, so after mine was done this past March, I
installed a test pipe and will put a downpipe and cat back, as soon as I can
find what I want. I'll probably leave the precats as is, at least for the time
being.
 
Anyone in the Portland test area been successful getting through the emissions
test with gutted precats?
 
> Michigan's better - there's no smog test, period.
 
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Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 09:48:08 -0700
From: Desert Fox <bigfoot@simmgene.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: What the heck are the pre-cats?
 
Is there any good reason NOT to remove all the cats if you live somewhere that allows for such?  Any long term ill effect to the engine or other mods that need to go along with this one?
 
- --
Paul/.
95 black 3000GT VR-4
98 VFR800F, TBR aluminum hi exit
formerly reasonable and prudent
 
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Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 10:56:07 -0600
From: "Morice, Francis" <francis.morice@retek.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: What the heck are the pre-cats?
 
Well, if you have an OBDII car, you will have to suffer through the Check Engine light every 500  miles or so and as the O2 sensors degrade over time, it will come on sooner. 
 
Francis
'96 RT/TT
 
- -----Original Message-----
From: Desert Fox [mailto:bigfoot@simmgene.com]
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 10:48 AM
Subject: Re: Team3S: What the heck are the pre-cats?
 
Is there any good reason NOT to remove all the cats if you live somewhere that allows for such?  Any long term ill effect to the engine or other mods that need to go along with this one?
 
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Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 11:58:02 -0500
From: "Starkey, Jr., Joseph" <starkeyje@bipc.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: What the heck are the pre-cats?
 
I think the good reason NOT to remove them is that if the car comes equipped from the  manufacturer with a cat, it violates federal law to remove it, regardless of the state in which  you live doesn't require a smog test.  And a state can't allow you to remove it if federal law  says you can't.
 
- -----Original Message-----
From: Desert Fox [mailto:bigfoot@simmgene.com]
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 11:48 AM
Subject: Re: Team3S: What the heck are the pre-cats?
 
Is there any good reason NOT to remove all the cats if you live somewhere that allows for such?  Any long term ill effect to the engine or other mods that need to go along with this one?
 
- --
Paul/.
95 black 3000GT VR-4
98 VFR800F, TBR aluminum hi exit
formerly reasonable and prudent
 
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Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 12:05:25 -0500
From: "Alex Pedenko" <alex@kolosy.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: What the heck are the pre-cats?
 
Does that mean that if you have gutted pre-cats, you'll have to replace your o2 sensors on a  regular basis?
 
What about the $500 pre-cat eliminator kit, how's that any better than gutted precats (which are  free ;)
 
Alex.
'95 VR4
 
- -----Original Message-----
From: Morice, Francis
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 11:56 AM
Subject: RE: Team3S: What the heck are the pre-cats?
 
Well, if you have an OBDII car, you will have to suffer through the Check Engine light every 500  miles or so and as the O2 sensors degrade over time, it will come on sooner. 
 
Francis
'96 RT/TT
 
- -----Original Message-----
From: Desert Fox [mailto:bigfoot@simmgene.com]
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 10:48 AM
Subject: Re: Team3S: What the heck are the pre-cats?
 
Is there any good reason NOT to remove all the cats if you live somewhere that allows for such?  Any long term ill effect to the engine or other mods that need to go along with this one?
 
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Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 11:07:36 -0600
From: "Willis, Charles E." <cewillis@TexasChildrensHospital.org>
Subject: RE: Team3S: What the heck are the pre-cats?
 
Great point!  But does this Federal prohibition extend to the owner of the car, or just to  mechanics who are servicing the car for money?  Some behaviors are prohibited only in the course  of commerce, such as the removal of a mattress tag.
 
Chuck Willis
 
- -----Original Message-----
From: Starkey, Jr., Joseph [mailto:starkeyje@bipc.com]
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 10:58 AM
To: Desert Fox; TeamS3
Subject: RE: Team3S: What the heck are the pre-cats?
 
I think the good reason NOT to remove them is that if the car comes equipped from the  manufacturer with a cat, it violates federal law to remove it, regardless of the state in which  you live doesn't require a smog test.  And a state can't allow you to remove it if federal law  says you can't.
 
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Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 11:08:37 -0600
From: "Morice, Francis" <francis.morice@retek.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: What the heck are the pre-cats?
 
You will have to replace the 2 downstream (the sniffers) O2 sensors more often for OBDII cars as  they will get fouled up with the "extra" contaminants..
 
Francis
'96 RT/TT
 
- -----Original Message-----
From: Alex Pedenko [mailto:alex@kolosy.com]
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 11:05 AM
Subject: RE: Team3S: What the heck are the pre-cats?
 
Does that mean that if you have gutted pre-cats, you'll have to replace your o2 sensors on a  regular basis?
 
What about the $500 pre-cat eliminator kit, how's that any better than gutted precats (which are  free ;)
 
Alex.
'95 VR4
 
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Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 12:13:17 -0500
From: "Andre Cerri" <cerri@intersystems.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Remote locking
 
BTW I'm assuming that this was a factory option and I can cannibalize parts from another car?
 
- -----Original Message-----
From: Andre Cerri
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2002 4:56 PM
Subject: Team3S: Remote locking
 
Is this easy to add to a 92 with central locking only?
 
If so, what parts etc do you need?
 
Thx
 
Andre
 
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Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 17:45:36 +0000
From: nouveau3@attbi.com
Subject: RE: Team3S: Remote locking
 
You might just think about getting an aftermarket security system. Most have
the remote locks and if you've already got the central locking system the parts
would be minimal. Most are much better than the security systems from the
factory. (speaking from the bad experience that I had a few months ago with my
factory system)
 
> BTW I'm assuming that this was a factory option and I can cannibalize
> parts from another car?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andre Cerri
> Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2002 4:56 PM
> Subject: Team3S: Remote locking
>
> Is this easy to add to a 92 with central locking only?
>
> If so, what parts etc do you need?
>
> Thx
>
> Andre
 
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Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 13:06:53 -0500
From: "Starkey, Jr., Joseph" <starkeyje@bipc.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: What the heck are the pre-cats?
 
Owner.
 
- -----Original Message-----
From: Willis, Charles E. [mailto:cewillis@TexasChildrensHospital.org]
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 12:08 PM
Subject: RE: Team3S: What the heck are the pre-cats?
 
Great point!  But does this Federal prohibition extend to the owner of the car, or just to  mechanics who are servicing the car for money?  Some behaviors are prohibited only in the course  of commerce, such as the removal of a mattress tag.
 
Chuck Willis
 
- -----Original Message-----
From: Starkey, Jr., Joseph [mailto:starkeyje@bipc.com]
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 10:58 AM
Subject: RE: Team3S: What the heck are the pre-cats?
 
I think the good reason NOT to remove them is that if the car comes equipped from the  manufacturer with a cat, it violates federal law to remove it, regardless of the state in which  you live doesn't require a smog test.  And a state can't allow you to remove it if federal law  says you can't.
 
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