Team3S: 3000GT & Stealth Wednesday, November 13 2002 Volume 01 : Number
997
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Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 13:12:14 -0800
From: "Riyan Mynuddin" <
riyan@hotpop.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S:
60k service & prev maint parts list
There are four components in the timing area to replace IMO at the 2x60K
service.
Water Pump MD972005
Timing Belt Tension Auto-Adjuster MD319040
Timing
Belt Tensioner Pulley MD140071
Timing Belt Idler Pulley MD151447/MD319022
(either part number is an OE
replacement)
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Here are the three accessory idler pulley part numbers:
Alternator-A/C Lower Tensioner Pulley MD630326
Alternator-A/C Upper
Tensioner Pulley MD161716/MD318474 (either part number is an OE
replacement) Power Steering Tensioner Assembly MD172379
as a side note, my Alternator-A/C Upper Tensioner Pulley was the one that
made the most noise. Since the bearings were dried up, it made a rattling
noise constantly, and a squeaky noise for awhile if I hadn't started the
car for more than 2 days. Also, realize that your squeaking noise could be
due to old belts. When belts get old, they stretch and lose tension. Temporary
fix = increase tension. But you're replacing them anyway.
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Vacuum lines should be replaced only if you see cracks. I'd recommend
replacing the radiator hoses (upper and lower) at the 2x60k though:
Radiator Lower Hose MB845941
Radiator Upper Hose MB605459
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My water pump did come with a new water pump gasket. Make sure you
double-check though. Your new spark plugs should come with new gaskets.
Check the resistance on your old plug wires. Replace them if they're out
of spec or marginal.
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I would recommend getting all four cam oil seals (4x MD152603) as well as
the front crank oil seal (MD120700) replaced. If any of these seals start
leaking, then you could easily be buying a new engine when the timing belt
slips.
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Motor Mounts and Suspension Bushings.... I gotta go study for a math
test
now :( Someone else w/CAPS want to take over for me? Also, I
didn't
replace either of these. Keep in mind that only one (of the four?)
motor mounts will actually be removed for the 60k service, and the dealer
won't be going to the suspension area for anything. You could easily do
these at a later date.
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As a final warning, these parts were all looked up using my 93 stealth VIN.
All the part numbers should be compatible since my car falls under the new
block designation. However, I believe that some of the part numbers may
have changed across the board. For example, at least one of those
tensioner pulleys had a new, "more reliable" design and therefore had a new part
number. The dealer was able to look it up and cross reference it on the
spot though, so yours should be able to do the same.
Good luck, and enjoy the next 60k,
Riyan
93 stealth rt tt
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Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 13:19:29 -0800
From: "Geddes, Brian J" <
brian.j.geddes@intel.com>
Subject:
RE: Team3S: Re: ECU replacement - AEM EMS?
> If the AEM will allow me to forgo a couple $300-500 discrete pieces of
> electronics like EBC, AFC, etc. for just over $1300 (Best price I've
> found so far), and most important on these OBD I/II hybrids
beasts,
> provide a data
> feed, it sounds like the right way to go.
Right?
If you're up to the challenge, then absolutely. My advice is to go to
their website and read about it, and then download and experiment with the
software. Also join the bulletin board and browse around for a
couple weeks.
After reading all this, if you're twitching and drooling with excitement
and unable to concentrate on your job anymore, then go get it. If
you find yourself hesitant or frightened or unsure, then stick with the
piggyback controllers.
The AEM is the holy grail of engine tuning, but it's dangerous if you don't
use it properly. Remember in Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade,
when the Nazi drank from the wrong cup? You can do the same thing to
your engine with the AEM.
> I read some discussion about the Auto-Learn mode may not work
>
reliably with
> MAS, and require a MAP upgrade. Any definitive data on
that?
I found that the MAS doesn't provide a very constant load. Because of
the way the AEM deals with our frequency based MAS, the load is constantly
oscillating +/- 5%. Given a good map it will drive just fine, but it
doesn't mix too well with the fuel auto-mapping. However, I've
learned some automapping tricks that would probably make it work much
better with the MAS.
> What sensors are people using as a recommended starting point
>
for the AEM
> above or as replacements for stock?
You need a Wideband O2 and a MAP sensor. If you're going to get rid
of the MAS then you need an intake temp sensor as well.
- - Brian
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Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 16:29:16 -0500
From: "Starkey, Jr., Joseph"
<
starkeyje@bipc.com>
Subject:
RE: Team3S: 60k service & prev maint parts list
let's not forget the obvious--the timing belt!
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Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 13:52:24 -0800
From: "Riyan Mynuddin" <
riyan@hotpop.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S:
60k service & prev maint parts list
lol of course not. jim had it on his original list. My list is just an
addendum.
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Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 01:30:55 +0100
From: "Roger Gerl" <
roger.gerl@bluewin.ch>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: ECU replacement - AEM EMS?
> Sounds good, especially if it's as "fire-and-forget" as Brian says it
> is. I'd be interested to see dyno charts from those with such a
> setup...
No, there is no "fire&forget" thing available and also there is no more
power unless you are increasing boost above the 1 bar barrier. Each engine
acts very different and tuning the S-AFC in is not always that easy.
> Biggest concern is that it would be tedious to tune with no way to
> monitor knock. For the price of the SAFC and AVC-R (my first gen
> doesn't work at altitude and will eventually need to be replaced), I
> was thinking that a little more would buy the EMS and solve
>
everything.
The AEM EMS only makes sense if one goes for the high $$ route. This means
boost levels above the 1.2 bars. Here the MAS is a restriction and should
not be used for sure. A large MAF or speed density is chosen then.
In continental Europe the people always want to buy a black box for tuning.
For example, the Audi S4 with 270hp can easily be tuned to 340hp. People
never buy a boost controller nor an S-AFC but a tuner will modify their
ECU and install the bleeder valve with a 1 year warranty so they feel
safe. Cost is very high but this doesn't rule much. The next step is larger
turbos and ICs and again, nobody will do this by themselves. 99% will
bring the car to a tuner who does the job and give a warranty. Nothing to
fiddle around with, just buying an amount of power and that's it (incl.
the before and after dyno sheet)
If you go the do-it-yourself route on our or other cars you have to life
with some facts. Going above 1 bar needs forged pistons, larger fuel pump,
bigger injectors, fuel controller, bigger turbos, larger ICs .. only to
name a few. Everything else is a time bomb and the many rebuilds during
this and last year a proving this.
The AEM's great ability is to control all this stuff and it can be
reprogrammed for further improvements made to the heads, turbos, intake
and so on. It controls fuel and ignition and is therefore a great
integrated tool. But don't forget, also the ignition coils are some weak
elements in our cars and the list could be made even longer ... Getrag is one
name that could be on it too :-(
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My son, Rob, wrote a book about the Columbine shootings. ("No Easy
Answers," see it at
www.lanternbooks.com)
He'll be on the Connie Chung show on CNN tonight at 7 pm.
Short notice, I know, but he spent an entire week in NYC waiting to get on
TV shows, and the sniper in Virginia pre-empted him at every opportunity. He
just called, and said it was a go.
Sorry for the off topic post, but it's not every day that one of us gets a
kid on to national TV. So shoot me, already.
Rich/slow old poop
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Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 08:48:07 -0700
From: "Damien" <
dabinch@actionsd.com>
Subject:
Team3S: Chrome Mitsubishi emblem
Does anyone know if the chrome logo used on the new Mitsubishi models can
replace the one on the hood of my '93 VR4? My original red one is
missing...
Thanks
Damien
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Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 21:46:24 +0100
From: "Roger L. Skoglund" <
norbolig@online.no>
Subject: Team3S:
Is it possible to upgrade a Dodge Stealth with a hitch ?
Hello,
probably a strange question for most of the members, but anyway here it
=
comes:
have anyone seen a hitch for a Dodge Stealth on the market (actually for =
a 1991 R/T twinturbo)? I have seen it available for other sports =
vehicles like the Corvette C4.
Would highly appreciate any tip.
Best regards,
Roger L. Skoglund, Oslo, Norway
(right now, with 20 cm
snow outside my window - a ideal weather for a = awd Dodge Stealth)
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Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 12:58:05 -0800
From: "Tigran Varosyan" <
tigran@tigran.com>
Subject: RE:
Team3S: Is it possible to upgrade a Dodge Stealth with a hitch ?
Yea. We have 2 members in my local club whom have em. Uhaul sells
them.
Tyson
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Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 13:19:38 -0800
From: "fastmax" <
fastmax@cox.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Is
it possible to upgrade a Dodge Stealth with a hitch ?
I have one on my 93 Stealth --- the company that makes them is called
Dalan.
Jim Berry
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