Team3S: 3000GT & Stealth Saturday, September 14 2002 Volume 01 : Number 952
 

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Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 12:02:56 -0600
From: "Moe Prasad" <mprasad@uswest.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Re: 3S-Racers: OT!! I need some quick advice from a
lawyer PLEASE!!!

Doug is right about making peace with the neighbor.

My neighbor is an asshole.  I filed for a permanent restraining order
against him and his family. I am not going to get into how it came
about.

He brought a lawyer and I brought all the neighbors.  His lawyer saw us
and advised my neighbor to move.

We spent about 4 hours at the court.  The judge was ready to make a
ruling in about 15 minutes.

I walked up to my neighbors and said that what ever the judge says, we
will both loose.  We are neighbors, we both have kids, I want my kids to
be able to go   to you in case of an emergency and I want your kids to
be able to come to our house if there is an emergency. I said this is
absolutely stupid and I want to   work things out right now and not have
a third party decide for us.

We both decided to stop the stupid bull shit. When the Judge came back,
we told the Judge that we did not want him to decide.

We now talk all time.  My wife still hates his guts but she talks to
him.

Rgds
Moe

- ----- Original Message -----
From: "dakken" <dougusmagnus@attbi.com>
To: <3sracers@speedtoys.com>
Cc: <nws3@yahoogroups.com>; "'Team 3s'" <Team3S@Stealth-3000GT.st>;
"Stealth@Stls. Verio. Net" <stealth@stls.verio.net>
Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2002 6:21 PM
Subject: Re: Team3S: Re: 3S-Racers: OT!! I need some quick advice from a
lawyer PLEASE!!!

> You are not legally responsible at all just as everyone else has said.

> I would think about a way to make peace with your neighbor, though. 
> You have to live next to him and if he gets mad enough then he may do
some
> nasty things to you or your property.  The kind of things that you
> know he did but could never prove.
>
> I say go out and find a free kitten, and offer it to him.  Not many
> people can resist a kitten and it will lighten the mood up a bit.
>
> Doug
> 92 Stealth RT TT
> Dead cat under front wheel mod.

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Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 12:18:23 -0700 (PDT)
From: John Christian <jczoom_619@yahoo.com>
Subject: Team3S: Re: rebuilding my TT engine??

Hi marc,

You'll need color coded inserts.  Check the color code
on your bearings before you  throw them away.

If you don't have the chart from the  Mitsu rebuild
manual, Email me and I'll send it to you.

Be of good cheer,
John

send mail to JCZooM@iname.com

- --- Marc Gauthier <gogauthier@hotmail.com> wrote:
> I'll be rebuilding my engine pretty soon and I'm not
> rich! (so I'm not going
> with forge pistons)
> Let me know if I forget something!
>
> Boring out the block
> Polishing the crankshaft
> Connecting Rod (I'll most likely get them shot-peen)
> Complete gasket kit with bearings (clevite 77),
> pistons (heat coated) and
> rings (total seal)
> New lifters
> New oil pump
> Port and polish the heads
> Port and polish the exhaust manifold
> 3 angel job on the valves
>
> The pre-cats are gutted as it's!
> Will inspect the 9b's, but they were rebuild 2 years
> ago!
>
> Thanks

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Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 14:29:08 -0500
From: <jrwooldr@rockwellcollins.com>
Subject: Team3S: A/D Converter

snip<"Cleaned, straightened, tightened, etc...now the car generally will
start but generates 4 consistent engine errors:
- - - air intake
- - - ECT
- - - TPS
- - - Baro

Here's the weird part: diagnostics run off the under-dash ECM port shows
- - -50degree coolant temp, 19v battery, and impossible TPS and Baro
readings. But taking a reading _directly_ from each of those sensors
shows that the   actual readings are correct, and sensors at each of
those places are sending the correct voltage.

Checked some continuity from sensor to firewall, and also noted that
these 4 or 5 bad readings do NOT all come from the same wire harness, so
we're thinking   this means the ECM is screwed...but if so, why does the
ECM continue to give SOME good readings (load, advance, etc are all
valid)?

Can anyone shed some light?">snip

It's likely that these four signals share an A/D converter.  It's
probably the A/D itself or the op-amp right ahead of it.  Grouping
signals like this is   standard practice because the converters cost
money and all the signals have to wait to get onto the digital bus
anyhow.

If someone had a block diagram or even a parts list for the ECM I could
make an educated guess at what needs replacing.

Jim W
92 3000GT SL

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Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 15:49:14 -0400
From: "Zobel, Kurt" <Kurt.Zobel@ca.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: A/D Converter

If the ECU sees 'out of range' readings, in most cases it will
substitute a std value. Check the limp in mode for the inputs that are
bad.

Kurt

- -----Original Message-----
From: jrwooldr@rockwellcollins.com [mailto:jrwooldr@rockwellcollins.com]

Sent: Friday, September 13, 2002 12:29 PM
To: Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st
Subject: Team3S: A/D Converter

snip<"Cleaned, straightened, tightened, etc...now the car generally will
start but generates 4 consistent engine errors:
- - - air intake
- - - ECT
- - - TPS
- - - Baro

Here's the weird part: diagnostics run off the under-dash ECM port shows
- - -50degree coolant temp, 19v battery, and impossible TPS and Baro
readings. But taking a reading _directly_ from each of those sensors
shows that the   actual readings are correct, and sensors at each of
those places are sending the correct voltage.

Checked some continuity from sensor to firewall, and also noted that
these 4 or 5 bad readings do NOT all come from the same wire harness, so
we're thinking   this means the ECM is screwed...but if so, why does the
ECM continue to give SOME good readings (load, advance, etc are all
valid)?

Can anyone shed some light?">snip

It's likely that these four signals share an A/D converter.  It's
probably the A/D itself or the op-amp right ahead of it.  Grouping
signals like this is   standard practice because the converters cost
money and all the signals have to wait to get onto the digital bus
anyhow.

If someone had a block diagram or even a parts list for the ECM I could
make an educated guess at what needs replacing.

Jim W
92 3000GT SL


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Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 15:33:07 -0700 (PDT)
From: Anthony Tse <tse1631@yahoo.com>
Subject: Team3S: Turbo Question

Hi 3S guys: I have a 92 VR4. I guess the rear turbo is
having some problem. Some metal contact noise comes
out under boost when the engine is cool. I have some
questions:
1. What happen if one turbo seized and I don't fix it.
Is it going to hurt other parts?
2. My budget is kind of low. Can I just put in 1 13g
or 15g turbo and mix it with the stock 9b turbo?
   Please give me some advise
Anthony

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Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 22:45:49 +0000
From: mjannusch@attbi.com
Subject: Re: Team3S: Turbo Question

> 1. What happen if one turbo seized and I don't fix it.
> Is it going to hurt other parts?

If something in that turbo comes loose there's the
chance the piece could get sucked through the
intercooler and into the engine.  Slim chance, but
possible.  If it is still spinning, and not totally
seized, then small metal shavings from the bearing
and/or compressor wheel could get into the intake fairly
easily and potentially cause some issues.  If the
bearing is shot, it can drop chunks of itself down into
the oilpan, or clog the oil drain line.

> 2. My budget is kind of low. Can I just put in 1 13g
> or 15g turbo and mix it with the stock 9b turbo?

It has been done with no apparent ill effects.  It isn't
the best way to go, but in a pinch it'll work.  The
person who did that is on the 3si messageboards, and
used a 13G and a stock 9B with reasonable success.  I'd
personally recommend matching your turbo sizes if at all
possible.

- -Matt
'95 3000GT Spyder VR4

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Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 16:03:50 -0700
From: "Bradford J. Gay" <bradfordjgay@charter.net>
Subject: Team3S: Value of Car

Hey Guys,

Just wondering if anyone would be willing to look at
http://www.geocities.com/bradford.rm/carsforsale.html and tell me what
they think the value of the   3000GT is.  Thanks.

- -Brad
 1997 3000GT VR-4 (For Sale)
 2001 Eclipse GT (For Sale)

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Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 18:11:32 -0700
From: Greg Gonzales <stealth@fitnessolutions.com>
Subject: Team3S: Poor Gas Mileage 92 Stealth TT

I wanted to know if some can me some more things to check to try and
figure out why my gas mileage has gone down the tubes as of about 1
month ago.
Now I had been averaging about 17 city 25-27 highway, now down to 15
city. 21 highway

My car a 92 Dodge Stealth TT with 60k.
Here is what I have done and checked
- - Plugs and wires replaced at 45k
- - Tire pressure checked
- - PCV valve replaced at 40k
- - Replaced the front O2 sensor 500 miles ago, will replace rear when I

have time.

Now I have not at the 60k service done yet. I also have not replaced the

fuel filter which I am thinking could be the cause. Maybe the pcv
valve??

Any ideas?
Thanks
Greg Gonzales
92 RT TT

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Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 21:20:39 EDT
From: GaMoparRacing@aol.com
Subject: Team3S: Help with clean up

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Hey there guys,  I have just got a 1994 Dodge Stealth R/T black on
black,
this is my first 3/S and I am trying to clean it up.  My question is how
do
you clean a black car.  This is the first car I have had that was black
and I
cannot keep it clean, I washed it this morning and came back an hour
later
and it was dirty.  If any one has any thing that might help I would
appreciate it.

Thanks,
Eric

1994 Dodge Stealth R/T
Stock

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Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 22:13:30 -0400
From: "Ken Stanton" <tt007ken@yahoo.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: low oil pressure

changed your oil lately?

Ken

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-team3s@team3s.com [mailto:owner-team3s@team3s.com]On
> Behalf Of Justin Sturgeon
> Sent: Friday, September 13, 2002 12:08 PM
> To: Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st
> Subject: Team3S: low oil pressure
>
>
> does anyone know what might be the cause of the low oil pressure in my

> car at idle.  i have a
> 91 stealth r/t na.  it has 90k miles, new ecu/fuel filter/k&n
fipk/timing
> belt/water pump/plugs/
> wires/ and then some.  oil pressure stays at the middle hash mark
> when i am
> driving, but
> after the car warms up- if it sits at a light the oil pressure
> drops almost
> the the bottom hash
> mark.  i also notice that the car has a very poor launch in this
> condition/
> even with normal
> driving.  if i slowly bring the revs up, the pressure rises and
> it launches
> fine.  timing is good.
> any suggestions?
>
> thanks, Justin

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Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 21:24:10 -0500
From: "Michael Neill" <dblxx@bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S: low oil pressure

As the group suggested, changing oil and or viscosity will make a huge
difference. Mitsubishi told me this was normal, when the needle drops
down to the   bottom, you are running about 25 psi. My needle only
returns to "normal" around 2500 rpm. I run 10w30 and when the car is
cool, oil pressure is high   naturally. So far no squealing metallic
sounds from the engine and no oil pressure warning light. Mike '97 VR-4
- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Ken Stanton" <tt007ken@yahoo.com>
To: "Justin Sturgeon" <justinstur@hotmail.com>;
<Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2002 9:13 PM
Subject: RE: Team3S: low oil pressure

> changed your oil lately?
>
> Ken

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Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 19:26:44 -0700
From: "Riyan Mynuddin" <riyan@hotpop.com>
Subject: Team3S: low oil pressure

do you get the oil pressure light yet?

if not, try this:   (this assumes that you car is manual transmission)

pull up your e-brake to the max.
pop it in 1st gear, and let the clutch go VERY SLOWLY. don't kill the
engine. let the rpms fall down to about 200. your oil pressure light
should come on. if   it doesn't then the oil pressure switch is bad or
the bulb is burnt. if the oil pressure light does come on, then perhaps
your oil pressure is just fine and   something else is causing your poor
launches.

Riyan
93 stealth rt tt

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Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 19:21:12 -0700
From: "fastmax" <fastmax@cox.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Help with clean up

Paint it white !!!

        Jim Berry
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- ----- Original Message -----
From: <GaMoparRacing@aol.com>
To: <team3s@team3s.com>
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2002 6:20 PM
Subject: Team3S: Help with clean up

> Hey there guys,  I have just got a 1994 Dodge Stealth R/T black on
black,
> this is my first 3/S and I am trying to clean it up.  My question is
how do
> you clean a black car.  This is the first car I have had that was
black and I
> cannot keep it clean, I washed it this morning and came back an hour
later
> and it was dirty.  If any one has any thing that might help I would
> appreciate it.
>
> Thanks,
> Eric
>
> 1994 Dodge Stealth R/T
> Stock

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Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 19:39:59 -0700
From: "Riyan Mynuddin" <riyan@hotpop.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Help with clean up

Buy one of those dry dusters. Great for quick clean-ups. That way after
a car wash, you can keep the car clean by giving it a quick 2-minute job
every other   time you drive.

Riyan
93 stealth rt tt - black

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Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 22:43:42 -0400
From: "Ken Stanton" <tt007ken@yahoo.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: low oil pressure

I just had my oil changed to 15-50 today, with a new filter.  On a warm
start, I was getting -no- oil pressure.  Gauge didn't move, engine was a
knocking.    fixed, warm start goes to 2nd bar.  I was on 10W-30, now am
in an even warmer climate, too (who isn't this summer?)

Ken
sorry for the blabber, extreme exhaustion

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael Neill [mailto:dblxx@bellsouth.net]
> Sent: Friday, September 13, 2002 10:24 PM
> To: Ken Stanton; Justin Sturgeon; Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st
> Subject: Re: Team3S: low oil pressure
>
> As the group suggested, changing oil and or viscosity will make a huge

> difference. Mitsubishi told me this was normal, when the needle drops
> down to the bottom, you are running about 25 psi. My needle only
> returns to "normal" around 2500 rpm. I run 10w30 and when the car is
> cool, oil pressure is high naturally. So far no squealing metallic
> sounds from the engine and no oil pressure warning light. Mike '97
> VR-4
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ken Stanton" <tt007ken@yahoo.com>
> To: "Justin Sturgeon" <justinstur@hotmail.com>;
> <Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
> Sent: Friday, September 13, 2002 9:13 PM
> Subject: RE: Team3S: low oil pressure
>
> > changed your oil lately?
> >
> > Ken

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Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 19:46:03 -0700
From: "Riyan Mynuddin" <riyan@hotpop.com>
Subject: Team3S: Exhaust - okay to leave one pre-cat

I'm going to get a stillen downpipe, ATR high-flow race cat, and the ATR
singleshot catback. The stillen downpipe will eliminate one precat and
leave the   other precat on there. Is that okay? The muffler guy that
I'm going to is pretty touchy about emissions, so I doubt that he would
be willing to drill out the   other pre-cat. I could do it myself, but
it's a pain. Also, since it's rusty I'd be worried that drilling through
it would make it fall apart.

I have considered using the ATR DP with a set of pre-cat eliminators,
but those things cost $500!

One more thing. Assuming that it's okay to leave the one pre-cat on
there, about how much HP would that cost me?

Thanks,
Riyan
93 stealth rt tt

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Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 23:16:26 -0400
From: "Philip V. Glazatov" <gphilip@umich.edu>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Exhaust - okay to leave one pre-cat

At 22:46 9/13/2002, Riyan Mynuddin wrote:
>I have considered using the ATR DP with a set of pre-cat eliminators,
>but those things cost $500!

And you will have to remove the rear turbo and the perhaps front turbo
to
pull the stock pre-cats out. It's a PITA and a major project. Since you
are
going to take it to a shop and not do it yourself you would spend an arm

and a leg on this.

Philip

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Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 23:21:17 -0400
From: "Philip V. Glazatov" <gphilip@umich.edu>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Help with clean up

At 22:39 9/13/2002, Riyan Mynuddin wrote:
>Buy one of those dry dusters.

You means a static duster? One of those green furry sticks that attract
dust electrostatically?

Philip

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Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 20:25:26 -0700
From: "Riyan Mynuddin" <riyan@hotpop.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Exhaust - okay to leave one pre-cat

After searching the old digests, that's exactly what I read. Any idea
whether having only one pre-cat would create some kind of balance issue,
or does it   just not matter? Like I said, I don't want to drill the
existing one since it's old and rusty.

Thanks,
Riyan

93 stealth rt tt
waiting for a shiny new exhaust

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Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 20:32:27 -0700
From: "Riyan Mynuddin" <riyan@hotpop.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Help with clean up

No, those wouldn't do too much for a car. I mean the big soft brush
ones. Basically there's many small fibers and it's soft enough to not
scratch your paint,   but rigid enough to get a good deal of dust off
the car when it's dry. The one I bought was from Target and it's called
the "California Car Duster"

***********

You means a static duster? One of those green furry sticks that attract
dust electrostatically?

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Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 23:34:32 -0400
From: "Darren Schilberg" <dschilberg@pobox.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Help with clean up

Most likely he doesn't mean the "As Seen On TV" Magna-Duster but a real
"California Duster" brand of duster that the pros use at the car show.

Once the car is *mostly* clean you can use the quick 2-minute shine like
the spray and wipe dry stuff (Mother's has some, 3M has some, they all
have their   own kind).  But the car needs to be clean of dirt first and
the hood can't be hot or it dries instantly.

- --Flash!

- -----Original Message-----
From: Philip V. Glazatov
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2002 23:21

At 22:39 9/13/2002, Riyan Mynuddin wrote:
>Buy one of those dry dusters.

You means a static duster? One of those green furry sticks that attract
dust electrostatically?

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Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2002 01:21:19 -0400
From: "Philip V. Glazatov" <gphilip@umich.edu>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Exhaust - okay to leave one pre-cat

At 23:25 9/13/2002, Riyan Mynuddin wrote:
>After searching the old digests, that's exactly what I read. Any idea
>whether having only one pre-cat would create some kind of balance
>issue, or does it just not matter? Like I said, I don't want to drill
>the existing one since it's old and rusty.

Eric Gross has that setup and he is not complaining.

Philip

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Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2002 01:59:15 -0400
From: "Darren Schilberg" <dschilberg@pobox.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Help with clean up

- -----Original Message-----
From: Darren Schilberg [mailto:dschilberg@pobox.com]
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2002 22:21
To: 'team3s@team3s.com'
Subject: RE: Team3S: Help with clean up


Eric - Congrats and welcome (I have a black '95 VR-4 with cream
interior)  Is this still a technical question?  =)  Wash it with some
good car wash (Mother's, Turtle Wax, 3M, etc.) and dry it with a chamois
cloth.  This   will prevent water spots and if you just washed it then
it should not look dirty.  Rinse often and use lots of water while
washing. I usually go over it   twice.  Once to get most of the stuff
off and the second time for the final pass which takes just a few
minutes but lets me rinse the whole car at once then   dry it.

Once it is clean you can begin waxing.  Some products are made for dark
cars.  I have a bottle of 3M but it is more like scratch-remover and a
combo wax for   dark cars (the liquid/paste is dark).

Also, if there are scratches from an automatic car wash then it got a
coat of auto wax and then you wash and wax it those spider-web scratches
and swirl   marks are under many layers of wax that makes it nearly
impossible to remove them all without getting to the very bottom and
starting all over with a paint   job.

I just deal with a car that is swirl-marked and scratched when you get
less than two feet away with the sun bouncing off of it but 8 feet or
more away it   looks just beautiful.  Besides - any picture of the
entire car is far enough away that you will never see it.

- --Flash!
www.team3s.com/~dschilberg

- -----Original Message-----
From: owner-team3s@team3s.com [mailto:owner-team3s@team3s.com] On Behalf
Of GaMoparRacing@aol.com
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2002 21:21
To: team3s@team3s.com
Subject: Team3S: Help with clean up

Hey there guys,  I have just got a 1994 Dodge Stealth R/T black on
black, this is my first 3/S and I am trying to clean it up.  My question
is how do you   clean a black car.  This is the first car I have had
that was black and I cannot keep it clean, I washed it this morning and
came back an hour later and it   was dirty.  If any one has any thing
that might help I would appreciate it.

Thanks,
Eric

1994 Dodge Stealth R/T
Stock

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Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2002 08:57:19 -0400
From: "Mike Frey" <mike21b@ptd.net>
Subject: Team3S: Drivetrain noise - or is it the engine?

Hi folks:

I'm still deciding on how much I want to put into my 92 RT/TT (150,000
miles). It's still on it's original transmission, although it definitely
needs   replaced - 2nd gear crunches and will pop out of (2nd) gear
while decelerating.

The difficult diagnosis for me is the noise it makes: a metallic whine
that rises and falls with RPMs, even if it's not in gear It does seem
louder while the   car is moving, so I am wondering whether this is
transmission or something in the engine..........?

The Mitsu dealer told me it's the transfer case a while back. It wasn't
as noisy then. They told me that the xfer case was so bad that they
couldn't see how   the AWD was still working (but it was, and still
does)

Any opinions? What drivetrain components continue to spin when the car
is parked and in neutral?

The car is still quite happy to run but shows its age in rattles,
whines, bumps and grinds.

I'm prepared to put $5,000 or so into it, but the thought that I could
sell it as is for $3,000 - $4,000 and then get a lower mileage
replacement for around   $10-15k is also attractive.

Mike

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Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2002 07:42:42 -0700
From: "fastmax" <fastmax@cox.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Drivetrain noise - or is it the engine?

With the clutch released the transmission input shaft is still spinning.
Try depressing the clutch and see if the sound changes --- when the
clutch is   depressed the transmissions internals should coast to a
stop,
although the throwout bearing is now active.

        Jim Berry
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- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Frey" <mike21b@ptd.net>

> I'm still deciding on how much I want to put into my 92 RT/TT (150,000

> miles). It's still on it's original transmission, although it
> definitely needs replaced - 2nd gear crunches and will pop out of
> (2nd) gear while decelerating.
>
> The difficult diagnosis for me is the noise it makes: a metallic whine

> that rises and falls with RPMs, even if it's not in gear It does seem
> louder while the car is moving, so I am wondering whether this is
> transmission or something in the engine..........?
>
> The Mitsu dealer told me it's the transfer case a while back. It
> wasn't as noisy then. They told me that the xfer case was so bad that
> they couldn't see how the AWD was still working (but it was, and still

> does)

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Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2002 10:40:17 -0500
From: "Mark & Brenda" <mebmark@airmail.net>
Subject: Team3S: Slipping out of 5th

Hi folks! Bad news took her on a good little drive yesterday and guess
what, with cruise control on at 75mph about 40 miles later it pops out
of 5th, I'm   glad the fuel pump shuts of at 7500rpm or I might have had
a blown engine on top of it all. Today I open the hood and look the
tranni over, it has never been   busted down to where you have to get to
the bushings and 1 2 3 and 4th synchros. The old silicone is still in
tack, the bolts are not scared, the tranni is   still dirty, all they
did was maybe replace 5th gear and synchro, not sure they did that
either. Well anyhow as I'm typing I just called them and confronted
them, he went to stuttering, They want me to bring it back Monday, and
said it will be done right this time, I told them I wanted to see it
when it was torn   down and I wanted my old parts or I was going to my
lawyer. They promised to call me and give me all the parts, I'm punch
marking all the bolts I can get to   and taking digital dated pics of
the dirt and dirty silicone this morning. Still its hard to believe they
would try to pull something like this.
One hot Team 3s member..   Mark

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Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2002 11:47:32 -0600
From: "Justin Sturgeon" <justinstur@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: low oil pressure

thanks for the reply.  i did just change to oil.  this has been a
somewhat
ongoing problem.  i can't see any blue smoke.  launches seem to be both
rough and sluggish.  mostly sluggish.  it almost feels like the car just

doesn't have decent power, than all of a sudden it will just take off. 
acceleration is fine everywhere except launch, and only on launch when
the
car has been sitting at the light
for more than a few seconds.  launch from a stop sign is fine, from a
light
it's not so good.  i'll check the oil pressure light.  thanks for the
suggestions and keep them coming.

justin

>As the group suggested, changing oil and or viscosity will make a huge
>difference. Mitsubishi told me this was normal, when the needle drops
>down to the bottom, you are running about 25 psi. My needle only
>returns to "normal" around 2500 rpm. I run 10w30 and when the car is
>cool, oil pressure is high naturally. So far no squealing metallic
>sounds from the engine and no oil pressure warning light. Mike '97 VR-4
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Ken Stanton" <tt007ken@yahoo.com>
>To: "Justin Sturgeon" <justinstur@hotmail.com>;
<Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
>Sent: Friday, September 13, 2002 9:13 PM
>Subject: RE: Team3S: low oil pressure
>
> > changed your oil lately?
> >
> > Ken

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