Team3S: 3000GT & Stealth Wednesday, September 4 2002 Volume 01 : Number 943




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Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 09:57:40 -0500
From: "Willis, Charles E." <cewillis@TexasChildrensHospital.org>
Subject: RE: Team3S: 93 Stealth won't idle after timing belt change

My understanding is that the ECU starts with default fuel maps after being
disconnected from the battery and you have to drive it around for a while
for it to re-educate itself.

Chuck Willis

- -----Original Message-----
From: wcampbellt@earthlink.net [mailto:wcampbellt@earthlink.net]
Sent: Monday, September 02, 2002 6:23 PM
To: Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st
Subject: RE: Team3S: 93 Stealth won't idle after timing belt change

Well today the car started up fine and has run with no problems at all! just
like it did before. I wonder if the ECU needed to sort itself out after the
battery was diconnected for a couple days. I hope it stays this way. thanks

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Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 09:51:16 -0500
From: "Willis, Charles E." <cewillis@TexasChildrensHospital.org>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Possible fuel pump problem

Did you replace the fuel filter during your 130K maintenance?

- -----Original Message-----
From: Drew Mouton [mailto:drew@irev2.com]
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 3:44 PM
To: Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st
Subject: Team3S: Possible fuel pump problem

Hey All,
My '92 NA 3000 just recently started having what looks like fuel
problems, and I'm trying to narrow down what's going on.

Basically, after doing 60k service (plus some additional) a couple weeks
ago, it ran unbelieveably well for a car with 130k miles. Then last Fri I
started having start probs: it took two tries to start the car (since I
got it, the car has always started right up on the   first twist of the
key). 

Few days after that (Monday of this week), she died on pulling into a
parking lot, and I just managed to get it into a parking space by way of
three die-and-restarts. Then I couldn't restart it - starter reved, but
it wouldn't turn over. Sat there overnight, came back, managed to get it 
started after a few tries, took it over to my buddy's shop, where it ran
for two hours without a problem. I left it with him to drive, and he said
it's only died once on him.

Ruled out a handful of possibilities (electrical mostly), and problems
seems to be pointing at the fuel pump.

First - and this is the stupid one - I've never touched the fuel pump on
this car. Where is it?

Second, can it be bench tested like others? In/Out of the car?

Anybody with some oother ideas what might be going on?

Regards,
Drew

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Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 11:52:58 -0400 (EDT)
From: Joseph Spainhour <spainhou@coastalnet.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Electric Window Problem

  Sounds like you need to order the window regulator. My driver side
broke a few months back. Everything was exactly as you
described. Small plastic wheel at the top of the regulator assymbly
snapped. $120 in parts. 40 Minutes to replace. Once you get the new
one, you can see how it fits in there. Just try and have a helper on
hand.

Joseph
93 VR4 

 On Mon, 2 Sep 2002, Roger Ludwig wrote:

- ->I need a resource for my right sided electric window
- ->on my 95 VR4.
- ->I have taken off the door panel and plastic
- ->undersheet, (thanx Erik for "trial" removal a few
- ->months ago).
- ->It appears that one of the large plastic guides is
- ->broken, but it is hard to see and I could sure use a
- ->diagram or some reference info.
- ->Problem: Window only goes partway down without
- ->assistance. Makes clunking noises as it goes.
- ->Thanx
- ->Roger L
- ->F15DOC

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Date: Tue, 03 Sep 2002 13:55:52 -0400
From: The68th@aol.com
Subject: Team3S: Alternator?

I was driving my car and all the sudden my radio started to turn off and on about every 30 seconds.  Then about 2 days later my battery gauge and tach started to move up and down periodically.  Then all the sudden after that happening for about 2 hours my car died.  I can jump start my car and the battery gauge will continue to climb into the 12v range as long as I leave the cars connected.  As soon as I disconnect the cars the gauge begins to drop and the car dies.  Is this the alternator?  And if so how hard is it to replace (I have no clue how), because I called a place that can rebuild it for 50-170 dollars.

Thanks
Chris
92 Dodge Stealth ES
Stock

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Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 10:37:02 -0700
From: "Riyan Mynuddin" <riyan@hotpop.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: oil filter

An eye bolt is a bolt with a hole in the middle that allows for a fluid (in
this case, oil) to flow through the middle. I paid for 30 minutes of shop
labor to get the bolt tightened. If the problem is the oil cooler eye bolt,
the dealer would most likely insist on replacing the whole oil cooler and
both the feed and return lines. Ask them where the leak is and don't be
fooled.

Riyan
93 stealth rt tt

- -----Original Message-----
From: Danno [mailto:palermod@pilot.msu.edu]
Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2002 6:04 AM
To: riyan@hotpop.com
Subject: Re: Team3S: oil filter

Got under the car this morning.  Filter is dry, but that's about the only
thing
that is!  Seems to be coming from a line just forward of the filter.  Would
that
be the oil cooler?   What is an "eye bolt"?

Anyway, I think I'll be taking it to the dealer.  Any idea what this could
cost?

Thanks for your help!

- - Dan

Riyan Mynuddin wrote:

> Yes, the oil filter is on the driver's side, quite easy to access. If
> retorquing the filter doesn't help, realize that it could also be your oil
> cooler, which is mounted in the front of the driver side wheel well. I
> believe it's the main eye bolt gasket on the cooler that generally breaks
> down. It's a very tight spot to work on. Although I'm tool-equipped and
> mechanically inclined, I had to take the car to my mechanic and from what
he
> said I believe that all he did was tighten it. I've seen no leak ever
since.
> Good luck.
>
> Riyan
> 93 stealth rt tt

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Date: Tue, 03 Sep 2002 14:13:13 EDT
From: <pedenkoa@msu.edu>
Subject: Team3S:

This is exactly what happened on my '93 prelude. It happened in the middle
of winter, around midnight on i96 in the middle of nowhere (in michigan). By
the time AAA got there, of my 4 hazard lights, only one was flashing.

It is, most likely, the alternator. I know that unbolting it isn't hard -
you need to take off the driver wheel well cover, loosen the tensioner
pulley for the alt. belt, take off the belt and unbolt the alternator (there
are like 4 bolts). The problem is taking it out of there. If I remember
correctly from my 60k, it's pretty tight in there...

Also - check to see if the belt is intact - it could simply have snapped
with the same effect.

Alex.

'95 VR4

> I was driving my car and all the sudden my radio started to turn off and
on
> about every 30 seconds.  Then about 2 days later my battery gauge and tach
> started to move up and down periodically.  Then all the sudden after that
> happening for about 2 hours my car died.  I can jump start my car and the
> battery gauge will continue to climb into the 12v range as long as I leave
the
> cars connected.  As soon as I disconnect the cars the gauge begins to drop
and
> the car dies.  Is this the alternator?  And if so how hard is it to
replace (I
> have no clue how), because I called a place that can rebuild it for 50-170
> dollars.
>
> Thanks
> Chris
> 92 Dodge Stealth ES
> Stock

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Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 10:46:25 -0700
From: "Riyan Mynuddin" <riyan@hotpop.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Please not a head gasket

Adam-

This is scattered, but will give you a starting point.

You're going to want to do a compression test. If two adjacent cylinders
have significantly lower compression than the others, then it's most likely
the head gasket. Bubbles in the radiator coolant would indicate head gasket
as well. Also, check for leaks in your intake to find why your boost won't
hold. And what kind of oil are you using? Try some Mobil 1 synthethic 15/50
in there. Old oil or the wrong oil can make the lifters stick. Clicking can
also be caused by lash adjusters. If it's more of a grinding or knocking
sound then it could be shot rod bearings or low oil pressure (is your oil
pressure light coming on?)  If you want to check a lot of these out
yourself, then you may want to look into buying the set of shop manuals for
your car. They've proven invaluable to me.

Good luck,

Riyan
93 stealth rt tt

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Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 13:17:40 -0500
From: "Willis, Charles E." <cewillis@TexasChildrensHospital.org>
Subject: Team3S: the old girl still has it in her ...

I got another opportunity to drive and instruct at Texas World Speedway over
Labor Day weekend with TWS Motorsports Club.  There were only about 60 cars
at the event split into three run groups for beaucoup track time.  I had one
student, a 19 year old female with a red Mustang GT, four speeding tickets,
and at least one accident.  Unfortunately, because of a late return to town,
I was unable to get my '94VR4 up to the track.  I spent most off my time
instructing, but rode with three other instructors.  On Sunday, I unloaded
the '93 VR4, that I retired from the track two years ago, so I could take my
student out for a ride. I had transplanted all my major mods to the '94 VR4
so, except for the manual boost controller and K&N filtercharger and Panther
Plus brake pads, I was back to stock.  The ECS is also non-functional
because I haven't replaced the antiroll sensor. It took me a full session to
accomodate to the much softer suspension and street tires (Yoko decibel,
40psi front, 38 psi back).  The car was tail happy, so I dropped two psi
from the rear tires, which seemed to fix it.  Although the track was
bone-dry, I had to pretend that I was driving in the rain, slowing down my
hand and foot movements.

After my re-learning session, I took the student on the track and gradually
built up to decent speeds.  Top speed was about 125 at the turnin to turn 1.
It felt good that the old car could run that well without all my usual
cheats!

Chuck Willis

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Date: Tue, 03 Sep 2002 18:24:52 +0000
From: mjannusch@attbi.com
Subject: RE: Team3S: oil filter

> An eye bolt is a bolt with a hole in the middle that
> allows for a fluid (in this case, oil) to flow through
> the middle. I paid for 30 minutes of shop labor to get
> the bolt tightened. If the problem is the oil cooler
> eye bolt, the dealer would most likely insist on
> replacing the whole oil cooler and both the feed and
> return lines. Ask them where the leak is and don't be
> fooled.

The fitting is called a "banjo fitting".  The best way
to fix it if it is leaking at the oil cooler lines by
the oil filter is to drain the oil (same as you'd do for
an oil change) and then remove the offending bolt. 
Replace the two copper crush washers that are between
the oil feed on the pump, the banjo fitting, and the
bolt.  Should be fairly obvious where they go - you just
sandwich the line between two crush washers.  Then
torque the bolt to the proper torque from the service
manual (I don't recall off the top of my head) and you
should be fine.  Clean the area up, finish your oil
change (ie: PUT OIL BACK IN!), run the car for a little
bit and then check for leaks.

For reference, this is an "eye bolt":

http://shop.store.yahoo.com/fastenmsc/eyebolmacsho.html

...this is a "banjo fitting & banjo bolt":

http://www.mitsubishi-
fto.org/workshop/brake_lines/i/brakelines-005.jpg

- -Matt
'95 3000GT Spyder VR4

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Date: Tue, 03 Sep 2002 20:11:02 +0000
From: "Andrei Kryjevski" <abk_4@hotmail.com>
Subject: Team3S: rear brake pads

Hello:

Could anybody recommend a good brake pad brand (looking to replace the rear,
must fit stock caliper for 92 R/T) that don't squeal.

Thank you.

Andrei.

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Date: Tue, 03 Sep 2002 13:45:38 -0700
From: Michael Gerhard <gerhard1@llnl.gov>
Subject: Re: Team3S: rear brake pads

I have been using Porterfield R4-S pads (R4 pads are race pads and R4-S are
street pads with limited open tracking use). One source (the one I have
used) is SpeedToys.Com

At 01:11 PM 9/3/02 , you wrote:
>Hello:
>Could anybody recommend a good brake pad brand (looking to replace the
>rear, must fit stock caliper for 92 R/T) that don't squeal.
>Thank you.
>Andrei.

Michael A. Gerhard     1991 Mitsubishi 3000GT VR4  Pearl White

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Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 15:44:17 -0500
From: Drew Mouton <drew@irev2.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: 93 Stealth won't idle after timing belt change

I've recently had an almost _identical_ experience: shortly after doing
60k service on my '92 3000GT (with 130k miles), I started having start up
and idle problems...though some days it was fine, and generally I could
keep it going if the AC was on.

It has gotten progressively worse...this morning I had to have the car
flat-bedded to my buddy's shop, after a complete no-start. Starter runs,
but it sounds fuel-starved.

To Charles: yes, I changed the fuel filter.

This weekend I ruled out most of the electronics, and it's looking more
and more like a fuel pump issues, but we're going to try to flow test the
pump today and verify it.

Anyone with other suggestions?
Drew

It appears that on 9/2/2002 7:38 AM, wcampbellt@earthlink.net at
wcampbellt@earthlink.net said:

>
>
>I just finished changing the timing belt and water pump on my 93 Stealth DOHC
>with 135k miles. I used the 60k service instructions from Team3s and they
>were
>right on!
>
>The car started fine after the job (I had the battery unhooked while working
>on it) but once it warmed up it would not idle. It will idle with the a/c on
>however. The car drives great except for this - I have to keep my foot on the
>peddle to keep it from killing at stops, what do I check? it ran fine
>before I
>changed the belt, could I have done something to cause this? any help
>would be
>really appreciated. thanks

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Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 15:50:05 -0500
From: Drew Mouton <drew@irev2.com>
Subject: Which fuel pumps; RE: Team3S: Possible fuel pump problem

Hey All,

In my new but on-going fuel-line problems, I haven't been able to rule
out the pump, but am trying to do that now.

Whether I choose now to upgrade or not, I'm still probably not going to
buy regular OEM stock from Satan, and may look for a pull from a salvage
yard until I'm sure that's my problem.

So - can anyone tell me which year Dodge/Mitsu models had fuel pumps that
will be happy in my  '92 normally aspirated 3000GT? What about Supra
pumps?

Regards,
Drew

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Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 15:53:32 -0500
From: "Willis, Charles E." <cewillis@TexasChildrensHospital.org>
Subject: RE: Team3S: 93 Stealth won't idle after timing belt change

Common things are common.  If the fuel pump was working properly before the
60K maintenance, it is reasonable to expect it to be working properly after
the maintenance. Nothing you are doing at the front of the car affects the
fuel pump.  You might have a vacuum leak either on parts of the intake
plumbing that you disconnected and reconnected during the maintenance, or
just an old vacuum hose that may have given way.  Have you either inspected
all the intake and turbo hoses and tubes, or better still, pressurized the
intake system to look for leaks?  Our cars don't idle well with small leaks
in the intake, and sometimes wont start at all, say with a disconnected
y-pipe.

Did you have any symptoms that prompted the 130K mile maintenance event?

Chuck Willis

I've recently had an almost _identical_ experience: shortly after doing
60k service on my '92 3000GT (with 130k miles), I started having start up
and idle problems...though some days it was fine, and generally I could
keep it going if the AC was on.

It has gotten progressively worse...this morning I had to have the car
flat-bedded to my buddy's shop, after a complete no-start. Starter runs,
but it sounds fuel-starved.

To Charles: yes, I changed the fuel filter.

This weekend I ruled out most of the electronics, and it's looking more
and more like a fuel pump issues, but we're going to try to flow test the
pump today and verify it.

Anyone with other suggestions?
Drew

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Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 14:02:00 -0700
From: "Riyan Mynuddin" <riyan@hotpop.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Alternator?

Chris-

Although it sounds like your alternator, this could be a dead battery too,
and/or an unintentional ground or short circuit along your charging system.
If you have a good battery lying around or can borrow a friend's, I'd
recommend doing that, then checking the charging system before you change
your alternator.

Riyan
1993 stealth rt tt

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Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 16:31:51 -0700
From: "fastmax" <fastmax@cox.net>
Subject: Team3S: Fw: 3S-Racers: Sears Point NASA event Oct 12/13

Due to the underwhelming response to the email copied below I thought
I'd resend it and assume that the first copy got lost in the mail --- where
are the racer types ?!?!?!?!

        Jim Berry
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

 Two day event at Sears Point --- full track after a year of renovations.
Geoff said he could probably get a spot reserved for us as he did
last year. I've got 3 or 4 folks from Southern California lined up, now
if we can get another batch from Northern California we can have a
 pretty good turnout ---- I'd like to see at least seven or eight 3S cars.
Plus Geoff has some racing buddies who like to have fun at the
 track.
 
 Any non California folks who want to take a real nice vacation Sears
Point is in the heart of the wine country and one hour from San
Francisco or the coastal redwoods --- your SO may even forgive your
taking time off to race for 2 days ---- or just come and watch if you
think racing abuses your car too much.
 
 See the following link for additional info.
 
 http://www.nasaproracing.com/norcal/
 
         Jim Berry

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Date: Tue, 03 Sep 2002 16:53:38 -0700
From: Damon Rachell <damonr@mefas.com>
Subject: Team3S: Re: Fw: 3S-Racers: Sears Point NASA event Oct 12/13

You can count me in as a definite.  All of you guys w/in a reasonable
distance should definitely consider this event.  Last year, we had a
great turnout and I don't think anyone had anything less than an amazing
time ,except Ken, of course :-(.  it's not expensive, the full track is
fully renovated, and should be a great time of year weather-wise.

Once the website is up for this event (if Geoff or someone else is going
to do it) someone should post on 3Si.org under the racing section, as
well as the gathering section.  Perhaps even the general, just to get
word out to as many as possible.

Jim, If you need any help, let me know and I'll do what I can.

Love to see 15 cars out there running, but I'll be happy with 14!!!

Damon

fastmax wrote:

> Due to the underwhelming response to the email copied below I thought
> I'd resend it and assume that the first copy got lost in the mail --- where
> are the racer types ?!?!?!?!
>
>         Jim Berry
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>  Two day event at Sears Point --- full track after a year of renovations.
> Geoff said he could probably get a spot reserved for us as he did
> last year. I've got 3 or 4 folks from Southern California lined up, now
> if we can get another batch from Northern California we can have a
>  pretty good turnout ---- I'd like to see at least seven or eight 3S cars.
> Plus Geoff has some racing buddies who like to have fun at the
>  track.

>  Any non California folks who want to take a real nice vacation Sears
> Point is in the heart of the wine country and one hour from San
> Francisco or the coastal redwoods --- your SO may even forgive your
> taking time off to race for 2 days ---- or just come and watch if you
> think racing abuses your car too much.

>  See the following link for additional info.

http://www.nasaproracing.com/norcal/

>          Jim Berry

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Date: Tue, 03 Sep 2002 16:56:43 -0700
From: Rick Pierce <piercera@pacbell.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Fw: 3S-Racers: Sears Point NASA event Oct 12/13

Well I plan on going (and driving for a change) - but I just went to the
Nasa site and while the SP event in October is actually listed under the
"event registration" section - they aren't taking online registrations as
the event is full?  I hope this is some sort of misprint/error as the event
just became listed under registration and I've been planning for 3 months to
make this.

Anyone else in the same boat - I've got some of the 3Si guys convinced to go
out and we should all be able to register for HPDE the track is a hell of a
lot bigger than last year (I saw it in person about 10 days ago - the
chicane on the east side of the track now goes into the long straight to the
southern tip of the track ...).

Rick
PS Jim, I saw your original e-mail, but didn't know you wanted a response

- ----- Original Message -----
From: "fastmax" <fastmax@cox.net>
To: <team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>; <3sracers@speedtoys.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2002 4:31 PM
Subject: Team3S: Fw: 3S-Racers: Sears Point NASA event Oct 12/13

> Due to the underwhelming response to the email copied below I thought
> I'd resend it and assume that the first copy got lost in the mail ---
where
> are the racer types ?!?!?!?!
>
>         Jim Berry
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>  Two day event at Sears Point --- full track after a year of renovations.
> Geoff said he could probably get a spot reserved for us as he did
> last year. I've got 3 or 4 folks from Southern California lined up, now
> if we can get another batch from Northern California we can have a
>  pretty good turnout ---- I'd like to see at least seven or eight 3S cars.
> Plus Geoff has some racing buddies who like to have fun at the
>  track.
>
>  Any non California folks who want to take a real nice vacation Sears
> Point is in the heart of the wine country and one hour from San
> Francisco or the coastal redwoods --- your SO may even forgive your
> taking time off to race for 2 days ---- or just come and watch if you
> think racing abuses your car too much.
>
>  See the following link for additional info.
>
http://www.nasaproracing.com/norcal/
>
>          Jim Berry

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Date: Tue, 03 Sep 2002 17:14:22 -0700
From: Damon Rachell <damonr@mefas.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Fw: 3S-Racers: Sears Point NASA event Oct 12/13

I just spoke with NASA NorCal and the reason the site is not taking
reservations yet is that they have not officially opened registration
for this event.  Check the site www.nasaproracing.com thursday or friday
to register.  He said that he fully expects the event to completely fill
up (based on previous dates at SP) and if we want to get a group of 10+
cars running, there is no way to alot a block, to his knowledge.
Perhaps Geoff can work his magic as he's done in the past and set things
up for the rest of us.

So, check back on thursday/friday and see if the registration process is
open.  I would do this quickly if it were me.

Can we start a list of people interested in going/racing perhaps on the
speedtoys website?

Damon


Rick Pierce wrote:

> Well I plan on going (and driving for a change) - but I just went to the
> Nasa site and while the SP event in October is actually listed under the
> "event registration" section - they aren't taking online registrations as
> the event is full?  I hope this is some sort of misprint/error as the event
> just became listed under registration and I've been planning for 3 months to
> make this.
>
> Anyone else in the same boat - I've got some of the 3Si guys convinced to go
> out and we should all be able to register for HPDE the track is a hell of a
> lot bigger than last year (I saw it in person about 10 days ago - the
> chicane on the east side of the track now goes into the long straight to the
> southern tip of the track ...).
>
> Rick
> PS Jim, I saw your original e-mail, but didn't know you wanted a response
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "fastmax" <fastmax@cox.net>
> To: <team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>; <3sracers@speedtoys.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2002 4:31 PM
> Subject: Team3S: Fw: 3S-Racers: Sears Point NASA event Oct 12/13
>
>
>
>>Due to the underwhelming response to the email copied below I thought
>>I'd resend it and assume that the first copy got lost in the mail ---
>>
> where
>
>>are the racer types ?!?!?!?!
>>
>>        Jim Berry
>>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>
>> Two day event at Sears Point --- full track after a year of renovations.
>>Geoff said he could probably get a spot reserved for us as he did
>>last year. I've got 3 or 4 folks from Southern California lined up, now
>>if we can get another batch from Northern California we can have a
>> pretty good turnout ---- I'd like to see at least seven or eight 3S cars.
>>Plus Geoff has some racing buddies who like to have fun at the
>> track.
>>
>> Any non California folks who want to take a real nice vacation Sears
>>Point is in the heart of the wine country and one hour from San
>>Francisco or the coastal redwoods --- your SO may even forgive your
>>taking time off to race for 2 days ---- or just come and watch if you
>>think racing abuses your car too much.
>>
>> See the following link for additional info.
>>
>> http://www.nasaproracing.com/norcal/
>>
>>         Jim Berry

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Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 19:14:25 -0600
From: "Palamara, Peter" <pala@gwl.com>
Subject: Team3S: Hipresr up for grabs

Every one knows the myth's and legend's behind this car, so why not own it
:)

> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/ebayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1854591355&r
> =0&t=0
>
> Asking price of $23k firm and $25k with plenum and wide band o2 sensor.
> Thank you!!! :)
>
You can contact me at pala@gwl.com or at 303-737-4733

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Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 18:53:57 -0700
From: "Gross, Erik" <erik.gross@intel.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Part # please

I think the part you are referring to is the vacuum line for the clutch
booster.  It runs from the rear of the plenum on the driver's side to a hard
line by the brake master cylinder.  It has a plastic check valve in it.

P/N:  MB892600  $4.54

http://www.mitsupartsdirect.com

> I'm not entirely sure of what the part is called, but if you
> are in front of
> the car looking at the engine, it is a hose that runs from
> the bottom right
> side of the plenum. It's a fairly thick hose, I think its
> braided, and it
> has a plastic section inside it I think.

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Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 09:19:03 +0700
From: "CV. Duta Karya Teknik" <dutakt@sby.centrin.net.id>
Subject: Team3S: NEED ADVICE HOW TO SET THE IGNITION TIMING CORRECTLY

 Hi All,

 I started the engine and run at idle around 900 rpm then I grounded the
terminal for adjustment of ignition timing and also grounded the terminal
inside near fuses console box but see what happen the rpm decrease till 500
rpm I did not adjusted BISS to set up to 750 rpm since I do not want the rpm
will go up over than 900 rpm after setting the ignition timing done. By
ignition timing light I checked the timing and setting at 5 deg. BTDC.
Setting the timing at 5 deg. BTDC I have turned CAS.
After that I ungrounded the terminal adjustment of ignition timing, look
what happen the rpm go to 900 rpm and the timing at T (top dead center).
In my question, why the timing changed to T (TDC) not at 5 deg. BTDC as I
set before. As manual said that it must be at 5 deg. BTDC and the rpm around
750 rpm.
If I set the timing incorrectly please help me how to set the ignition
timing correctly and I would the rpm run at 750 rpm.
Before I set the ignition timing, should I set first the rpm till 750 rpm
then set the ignition timing at 5 deg. BTDC

 Kindly regards,
Mei Harijanto
CV. Duta Karya Teknik
Jl. Jemur Wonosari JN/2
Surabaya 60237
Indonesia
Telp. (62) 31 841 8236
Fax.  (62) 31 843 7833

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Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 19:47:52 -0700
From: "Team3S-Admin" <Team3S@bobforrest.com>
Subject: Team3S: Sears Point NASA event Oct 12/13

I'll speak with "da boss" over at NASA tomorrow about a plan for early
registration for anyone (like non-Team3S folks) who want to register directly
from the website.  I'm the NASA liaison, so everyone interested in joining us
at *any* NASA event should contact me ASAP.  Make sure to copy Jim Berry
(fastmax), since he's coordinating the event).  I've already made arrangements
with NASA for at least 10 cars under our banner for the October 12/13 HPDE,
and there WILL be a special Parade Lap for Team3S member cars (and all Stealth
and 3000GT folks who come with us)!!!  Please make sure to suggest to any
non-members of Team3S that they either join us or join the Team3S Racers list,
and that they contact me or Jim with the following:

- --Name, address, phone
- --Car, model, year
- --NASA membership number
- --Which days they will be participating
- --Preferred HPDE "run group"
(1=Novice, 2=Learning, 3=Experienced, 4=Advanced)

Please also make sure that any friends who will be coming to the event but NOT
racing list their name and car with us, so we can make further arrangements
for an extra area to be cordoned off for all our cars.

Team3S has "favored" status with NASA, so we want to make sure to reciprocate.
Team3S volunteers at every event to help NASA however we can, and we
piggybacked Geoff & Nissa's "Speedtoys" to join with us for even greater
number of cars to show up at the track.  They are not 3S cars, but there are
some pretty impressive offerings, from Geoffs MR-2 (which should be a turbo by
now) and Nissa's RX-7 turbo, and some of Geoff's pals - a Lingenfelter
Firebird with 600+ HP, and a 2001 Diablo with 700 HP (550 to the wheels), etc.

Team3S also volunteers to run the free Saturday night NASA BBQ at every event,
again, with Speedtoys joining us...  Geoff is chief burger flipper, and Nissa
runs the kitchen with ET (who also runs the gas-powered "blender thingy" for
her famed Margaritas and Mudslides).

This is going to be a great event, so contact me and Jim right away with your
information!

Best,

Forrest

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Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 06:40:39 -0400 (EDT)
From: kimbyrd@webtv.net (Kimberly Byrd)
Subject: Team3S: overdrive light

I have a 1994 3000GT that has an automatic transmission. The overdrive
switch is on the shifter and there is a light on the dash that tells me
when the overdrive is off. I noticed yesterday that my dash light would
not come on. No matter how many times I pushed the overdrive button, the
dash light stayed off. The overdrive is working, so I will assume that
the light bulb is burned out? Does anyone know how to fix that?

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Date: Wed, 04 Sep 2002 08:30:09 -0400
From: Joe Kenwabikise <jdk88888@www.speedtoys.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Please not a head gasket

Don't mean to scare you, but...
a friend of mine just had a very similar experience...  turned out to be
a spun bearing on cyl#1. 
He took it to a shop to have it positively diagnosed (the shop knows our
cars pretty well), but we had a strong idea of it beforehand. 
For reference, the clicking sounded a LOT like lifter tick, except MUCH
louder, and it never went away.  He also noticed his oil pressure was a
little low, and decided against doing an oil change that day :(

Good luck,
Joe
91 RT/TT black

Adam Knowlton wrote:
>
> I was driving yesterday and noticed a LOUD clicking
> coming from under the hood.  I stopped and popped the
> hood and I'm fairly sure its the crankshaft that's
> cliking.  I added about half a quart of oil and that
> only quieted the clicking for about five maybe ten
> minutes.  I also noticed a huge drop in power before I
> added the oil.  Even after added though, the turbo's
> would spool up really fast, but I wasn't getting any
> really boost.  Only after releasing the pedal and
> reapplying pressure did I accelerate.  Any help on
> this situation would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks
> Adam
> Wounded 92 RT TT

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Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 09:15:11 -0400
From: "Darren Schilberg" <dschilberg@pobox.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Tyres for 17 inch rims

You're welcome, Andy.  Do you come across any sand on the roadway over
there?  That could simulate rain or "gravel on the road" conditions and
would warrant a tire with deeper tread or perhaps one semi-made for rain
that will sipe the sand out of the way (not sure if that is what happens
at 100 mph on sand on pavement).  If you run on dry pavement then dry
traction is definitely important.  Also, you should be getting a tire
with an "A" rating for temp and an "A" rating for traction I bet.  Some
of them have an "AA" rating but temp is most important to you I bet.

- --Flash!

- -----Original Message-----
From: Andrew Spargo
Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 02:01

Thanks Darren

As I mentioned mine is a Middle East specs, 1999 model, and is different
in many respects to your specs in the States (i.e. I use "leaded fuel",
5 speed manual, no O2 sensors, low rear spoiler and unfortunately mine
is fitted with 17 X 7.5 JJ inch rims. I have sent the entire
English/Arabic sales brochure to someone on the list and he was
surprised at the differences. I think it might also have an uprated
cooling system as the temperature here is around 50 C during the summer
months and I drive 50 miles to work at an average speed of over 100MPH
and the temp. gauge never goes above midway. I will assume that the
235/45's will fit OK, just need the expert advise from the list as to
which tyre is best, remember it only rains here about 3 times a year so
good traction in the dry is important for me.

Andy Spargo
e-mail  spargo@bigfoot.com

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Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 08:31:07 -0700
From: "Riyan Mynuddin" <riyan@hotpop.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Please not a head gasket

Spun bearing huh....

For you sake, hopefully it's not that. If I'm not mistaken, those seem
pretty common in our cars. Just yesterday I went out stealth surfing and saw
a bunch of 'em for sale with spun bearings.

Riyan
93 stealth rt tt

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