Team3S: 3000GT & Stealth Thursday, August 29
2002 Volume 01 : Number
939
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Date:
Wed, 28 Aug 2002 17:25:19 -0400
From: "Bedrock" <
bedrock@attbi.com>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: Training Me 101: O2 Sensors, TPS
Well I tried what Jim said and
after a quick 100 miles today the light
remains out. I figure if its out for
3 days it will be ok. here's hopping
that's fixed then its on to the next
then the next and so on with these
cars.
Bob
White/Red 91 RT/TT,
Original at 135,000+
- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Andre Cerri"
<
cerri@intersystems.com>
To:
"Bedrock" <
bedrock@attbi.com>;
"Team3S" <
Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
Sent:
Wednesday, August 28, 2002 4:27 PM
Subject: RE: Team3S: Training Me 101: O2
Sensors, TPS
> Rockville charges about $105, as I did this
recently. As always, shop
around
> though as locals wanted
$171.....
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From:
owner-team3s@team3s.com
[mailto:owner-team3s@team3s.com]On Behalf
> Of Bedrock
> Sent:
Wednesday, August 21, 2002 6:05 PM
> To: Team3S
> Subject: Re:
Team3S: Training Me 101: O2 Sensors, TPS
>
>
> I took out the
TPS but I don't want to break it trying what Jim suggested.
> When I turn
it by hand its almost like I can feel it hitting flat spots
> along the
way back to the stop position ? If I do break it where is the
best
>
place to get one ( no hurry ) and about how much will it run
me?
>
>
> Bob
> White/Red 91 RT/TT, Original at
135,000+
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jim Fay" <
jfay@tssu.com>
> To: "'Bedrock'" <
bedrock@attbi.com>
> Sent: Monday,
August 26, 2002 8:51 AM
> Subject: RE: Team3S: Training Me 101: O2
Sensors
>
>
> > I have had the same problem with the
TPS. Remove the TPS and take a
hair
> > dryer and soften the
glue seal on the face. The seal can then be
removed
> > and
there is a snap in plastic cover over a potentiometer. This pot
has
> > four leads soldered to a cir board, the leads are the plug in
pins for
the
> > connector. You can resolder the pins as the
origional solder has
probably
> > given up. You will likely
see a crack around one or all of the solder
> > joints. Snap the
cover back inplace and cover the plate with black
> silicon
> >
to keep dirt out and retain the stock appearance. Mine has been OK
for
> over
> > six months now.
> >
> >
Jim
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:
owner-team3s@team3s.com
[mailto:owner-team3s@team3s.com]On Behalf
> > Of Bedrock
> >
Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 1:58 AM
> > To: Team3S
> >
Subject: Re: Team3S: Training Me 101: O2 Sensors
> >
>
>
> > Thanks Ill get the book out and check for continuity this
week. there is
> no
> > rust
> >
> >
>
> Bob
> > White/Red 91 RT/TT, Original at 135,000+
> >
----- Original Message -----
> > From: "cody" <
overclck@satx.rr.com>
> > To:
"'Bedrock'" <
bedrock@attbi.com>;
"'Team3S'"
<
Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
>
> Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2002 10:49 PM
> > Subject: RE: Team3S:
Training Me 101: O2 Sensors
> >
> >
> > > Nope,
but sometimes the TPS can be faulty, yet read correct 98% of the
> >
> time... You might also check wiring harnesses for rust,
continuity,
> > > etc...
> > >
> > >
-Cody
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
>
> > From:
owner-team3s@team3s.com
[mailto:owner-team3s@team3s.com] On
Behalf
> > > Of
Bedrock
> > > Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 1:08 AM
> >
> To: Team3S
> > > Subject: Re: Team3S: Training Me 101: O2
Sensors
> > >
> > > I have a quick question this thread
might be able to answer. My check
> > > engine
> > >
light comes on randomly but more in hot weather. If I goose the gas it
>
> > goes
> > > out. I checked the codes and the only one is
the throttle position
> > > sensor. I
> > > did a test
on the tps according to the manual and it checks out ok. If
I
> >
> clear the code it only comes back as a tps? Is there another
sensor
that
> > > feeds or in my case sometimes not feeding a
signal to the tps
resulting
> > > in a
> > > code on
it? Or do I really have a bad spot on my tps? Thanks.
> > >
>
> > Bob
> > > White/Red 91 RT/TT, Original at 135,000+
>
> >
> > >
> > >
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Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 14:54:34
-0700 (PDT)
From: Roger Ludwig <
yiotta@yahoo.com>
Subject: Team3S:
Never Titled Brand NEW VR4!!
HOLY SMOKES!!
This is hard to pass
up....
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1854446565Roger
L
F15DOC
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Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 14:56:00
-0700 (PDT)
From: Roger Ludwig <
yiotta@yahoo.com>
Subject: Team3S:
Never Titled Brand NEW VR4!!
Been passing EMAILS with the
owner...
Reserve is $44k - OUCH!
Roger L
F15DOC
- --- Roger
Ludwig <
yiotta@yahoo.com>
wrote:
> HOLY SMOKES!!
> This is hard to pass up....
>
>
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1854446565>
> Roger L
> F15DOC
>
>
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Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 19:34:20
-0400
From: "Mike Frey" <
mike21b@ptd.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S:
Never Titled Brand NEW VR4!!
I just can't get past the wing on the '99s.
Never could get past the sticker
price on any VR4 / RT all the way back to
1991.
Watched a '92 RT/TT with only 15,000 miles sell on eBay for
(approx) $14,000
a couple months ago. That one was hard to
resist.
- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Roger Ludwig" <
yiotta@yahoo.com>
To: "3000GT Club"
<
nws3@yahoogroups.com>; "TEAM
3S" <
team3s@team3s.com>
Sent:
Wednesday, August 28, 2002 5:54 PM
Subject: Team3S: Never Titled Brand NEW
VR4!!
> HOLY SMOKES!!
> This is hard to pass
up....
>
>
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1854446565>
>
Roger L
> F15DOC
>
>
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Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 20:01:57
-0400
From: "bob atkins" <
ratkins@cfl.rr.com>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: Never Titled Brand NEW VR4!!
>I just can't get past the wing
on the '99s.
> Mike Frey
A lot of people have only seen it from
behind!!!!
>From inside it is the least obstructive in the
mirror. It is truly an
airfoil (inverted) with a slight upward kick for
more negative lift. The
only part of the wing that deserves improvement
is the profile of the mount
(IMHO). Most other angles are
appealing. Most don't believe it's stock. I
gotta believe it
becomes pretty functional by 80mph.
I had heard rumor of this car when I
went to South Bend to buy the one I
have last September. When I pursued
it, I was told that the dealers son had
just titled it. Guess
not. I thought finding one with 5k miles was pretty
good. I can't
imagine what reserve this guy has set.
bob
'99VR-4
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Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 20:23:35
-0400
From: Amy Kartage <
akartage@cox.net>
Subject: Team3S:
Service Manuals
Will the service manual for the Stealth work with the
3000GT?
Ted Kartage
94 3000GT
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Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 20:57:57
-0400
From: "Mike Frey" <
mike21b@ptd.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S:
Never Titled Brand NEW VR4!!
Hope I didn't offend! If it's any
consolation, I think all year VR4s are
nicer looking than the Stealth, which
I have.
Especially given the 1999 low production numbers, I'd be happy to
have one
anyway.
I kind of figured that the '99 spoiler was fully
functional, as well as not
being very visible in the
mirror.
Mike
- ----- Original Message -----
From: "bob atkins"
<
ratkins@cfl.rr.com>
To: "Mike
Frey" <
mike21b@ptd.net>; "team3S"
<
team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
Sent:
Wednesday, August 28, 2002 8:01 PM
Subject: Re: Team3S: Never Titled Brand
NEW VR4!!
> >I just can't get past the wing on the
'99s.
> > Mike Frey
>
> A lot of people have only seen it
from behind!!!!
>
> From inside it is the least obstructive in the
mirror. It is truly an
> airfoil (inverted) with a slight upward
kick for more negative lift. The
> only part of the wing that
deserves improvement is the profile of the
mount
> (IMHO). Most
other angles are appealing. Most don't believe it's stock.
I
>
gotta believe it becomes pretty functional by 80mph.
>
> I had heard
rumor of this car when I went to South Bend to buy the one I
> have last
September. When I pursued it, I was told that the dealers
son
had
> just titled it. Guess not. I thought finding one
with 5k miles was
pretty
> good. I can't imagine what reserve
this guy has set.
>
> bob
> '99VR-4
>
>
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Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 21:02:40
-0400
From: "Philip V. Glazatov" <
gphilip@umich.edu>
Subject: AEM ECU
update (Re: Team3S: Just venting...)
AEM is re-soldering my ECU. They
found a problem with one board. I should
have it back Friday already
programmed and ready to go!
Philip
At 00:51 8/26/2002, Philip V.
Glazatov wrote:
>The AEM ECU itself was also not without a problem.
Injectors 1,2,6 are not
>firing. No signal. Engine runs on three
cylinders. The three injectors
>that are firing are firing at non-stock
crank angles and at double the
>frequency. I will call AEM on Monday and
they will probably tell me to
>send the unit back to them or suggest some
fix.
>http://www-personal.umich.edu/~gphilip/Stock%20and%20AEM%20injectors%20firing.gif
>
>Whew!
>
>Philip
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Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 23:19:11
-0400
From: "David Thrower" <
repairerr@worldnet.att.net>
Subject:
Team3S: Next years Gathering (2003)
Hi Guys &
Gals
Does anyone have any info about next years 3SI gathering? I
understand it
will be in St. Louis?, but when? I want to make days off from
work plans
early. We would like to go with the Stealth we just bought at the
end of
June, (and did a ton of mechanical work to, with the help of this
list) not
to race it, but just to see other ones, and to get to meet other
people who
own these neat cars like ours. Sounds like a good
time.
Thanks,
Dave Thrower
92 Stealth R/T
TT
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Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 23:42:14
-0400
From: "David Thrower" <
repairerr@worldnet.att.net>
Subject:
Team3S: Brake Rotor Wear
Hello Everyone,
I have something
to tell, and maybee someone else has seen it, but in all
the years I have
been working on trucks, and some cars, I have never seen
this. On the 92
Stealth R/T TT we bought at the end of June, I noticed that
the inboard sides
of the front rotors are really wierd. The pads are only
making contact with
the very center of the rotors. After pulling the left
one off, scraping the
thick accumulation of rust off the inner parts of the
rotor, and taking a
straight edge across the rotor, I found that the part
toward the hub and the
part of the outer edge was narrower about .080, and
the pad was not
conforming to it, no contact at all with these parts of the
rotor, only in
the center about 3/4" width. It just seems like these parts
shrunk.
(impossible) Both sides (L&R) are the same. I will be replacing them
now,
along with the pads, but I was just wondering if anyone has seen this
before.
Everything is stock on this car.
Thanks for any help,
Dave
Thrower
92 Stealth R/T TT 128,000 Mi.
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Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 13:31:42
+0400
From: Andrew Spargo <
spargo@emirates.net.ae>
Subject:
Team3S: Tyres for 17 inch rims
I have a slight problem here in the Middle
East, my car (1999 VR4 M.E.
Specs) is fitted with Yokohamas' 225/50 VR 17 on
17 X 7.5 JJ rims as
standard. I now need to replace them but no-one stocks
these tyres (not even
Yokohama). I have a choice of 235/45 ZR 17 tyres which
I believe should fit:
1/Bridgestone POTENZA SO3
2/Firestone Firehawk SZ50
EP
3/Pirelli P Zero Rosso
I realise this will lower the car and change the
speedo slightly, but would
be grateful to the list for advise on the best
tyre (a check of the search
page says most are going for the Pirelli) and
will they fit without touching
anything. All these tyres will fit the
standard 7.5 inch rims.
Andy Spargo
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Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 05:41:40
-0400
From: "Darren Schilberg" <
dschilberg@pobox.com>
Subject: RE:
Team3S: Tyres for 17 inch rims
Andrew,
The standard 17" wheel is a
17" x 8.5" JJ so is this the size you meant
to say? I run fine with
255/45/17 on the track and even 255/40/17
(better match to plus sizing I
think) works fine. Your 225-wide tire is
odd since stock in US is a
245/45/17 for that car. Look for that size
and you should see about 30
brands from which to choose (very many
choices).
http://www.team3s.com/FAQ-Specs1.htm-
--Flash!
1995 VR-4 with 18" shoes
- -----Original
Message-----
From: Andrew Spargo
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002
05:32
I have a slight problem here in the Middle East, my car (1999 VR4
M.E.
Specs) is fitted with Yokohamas' 225/50 VR 17 on 17 X 7.5 JJ rims
as
standard. I now need to replace them but no-one stocks these tyres
(not
even Yokohama). I have a choice of 235/45 ZR 17 tyres which I
believe
should fit: 1/Bridgestone POTENZA SO3 2/Firestone Firehawk SZ50
EP
3/Pirelli P Zero Rosso I realise this will lower the car and change
the
speedo slightly, but would be grateful to the list for advise on
the
best tyre (a check of the search page says most are going for
the
Pirelli) and will they fit without touching anything. All these
tyres
will fit the standard 7.5 inch rims.
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Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 05:38:28
-0700
From: Andrew Woll <
awoll1@pacbell.net>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: Brake Rotor Wear
I have not seen exactly the problem you describe
David, but warped rotors
are common. Andy
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From: "David Thrower" <
repairerr@worldnet.att.net>
To:
"Team3s (E-mail)" <
Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
Sent:
Wednesday, August 28, 2002 8:42 PM
Subject: Team3S: Brake Rotor
Wear
| Hello Everyone,
| I have something to tell, and
maybee someone else has seen it, but in all
| the years I have been working
on trucks, and some cars, I have never seen
| this. On the 92 Stealth R/T TT
we bought at the end of June, I noticed
that
| the inboard sides of the
front rotors are really wierd. The pads are only
| making contact with the
very center of the rotors. After pulling the left
| one off, scraping the
thick accumulation of rust off the inner parts of
the
| rotor, and taking
a straight edge across the rotor, I found that the part
| toward the hub and
the part of the outer edge was narrower about .080, and
| the pad was not
conforming to it, no contact at all with these parts of
the
| rotor, only
in the center about 3/4" width. It just seems like these parts
| shrunk.
(impossible) Both sides (L&R) are the same. I will be replacing
them
|
now, along with the pads, but I was just wondering if anyone has seen this
|
before. Everything is stock on this car.
| Thanks for any
help,
| Dave Thrower
| 92 Stealth R/T TT 128,000
Mi.
|
|
|
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Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 10:10:45
EDT
From:
ThorHolth@aol.comSubject: Team3S: 1991
Stealth R/T Turbo for Sale (AWD)
Hello all:
I'll keep this short
and sweet:
I'm selling my 1991 Dodge Stealth R/T Turbo (all wheel
drive/steering).
120,000 miles, but I did the 60k tune up about 10,000
miles ago. Always run
Mobil 1. No mods except for a K&N
Filtercharger at last 60k service. I've
had the A/C changed over to
R134a, so no problems with R12. Also, I replaced
all gauges with
Autometer Phantom gauges (now has Boost meter, Air Temp&
Air/fuel ratio,
Oil Pressure, Water Temp, Fuel Pressure). Has also been
retrofitted
w/keyless entry.
Body of the car is in great shape. Bright red
w/black top and black
suspension bulges on hood. Engine and interior
are great too!
To the best of my knowledge, this car has never been
wrecked or modified
(i've only owned it for 18 months). Would be a
good starting point for
somebody looking to get into
modifications.
Finally, why am I selling it? Because I haven't driven it
as much as I
thought. Only 2,000 miles in the last year.
I
live in the southeastern CT area, near New London/Mystic, if you know
anybody looking for a car. I can e-mail pics if it helps.
Asking
$9,000.00
please reply privately via e-mail to
thorholth@hotmail.com.
- -Thor
Holth -
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Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 15:43:39
-0500
From: Drew Mouton <
drew@irev2.com>
Subject: Team3S: Possible
fuel pump problem
Hey All,
My '92 NA 3000 just recently started having
what looks like fuel
problems, and I'm trying to narrow down what's going
on.
Basically, after doing 60k service (plus some additional) a couple
weeks
ago, it ran unbelieveably well for a car with 130k miles. Then last
Fri I
started having start probs: it took two tries to start the car (since
I
got it, the car has always started right up on the first twist
of the
key).
Few days after that (Monday of this week), she
died on pulling into a
parking lot, and I just managed to get it into a
parking space by way of
three die-and-restarts. Then I couldn't restart it -
starter reved, but
it wouldn't turn over. Sat there overnight, came back,
managed to get it
started after a few tries, took it over to my
buddy's shop, where it ran
for two hours without a problem. I left it with
him to drive, and he said
it's only died once on him.
Ruled out a
handful of possibilities (electrical mostly), and problems
seems to be
pointing at the fuel pump.
First - and this is the stupid one - I've
never touched the fuel pump on
this car. Where is it?
Second, can it
be bench tested like others? In/Out of the car?
Anybody with some oother
ideas what might be going on?
Regards,
Drew
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Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 13:55:11
-0700
From: "Gross, Erik" <
erik.gross@intel.com>
Subject: RE:
Team3S: Possible fuel pump problem
You might want to rule out your Idle
Speed Control (ISC a.k.a. IAC) motor
first. Try starting the car with
the throttle partially depressed to allow
airflow into the engine. From
what I read on this list and other forums,
ISC failures seem to be reasonably
common on these cars, especially ones
with higher mileage.
Also,
before yanking/replacing your fuel pump, you might want to install a
fuel
pressure gauge to see if you're getting pressure. You can get one
at
most auto parts stores for $30-$40 and install it in under 15 minutes
(plan
for 30 if it's your first time).
HTH,
-
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Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 17:13:29
-0400
From:
pvg1@daimlerchrysler.comSubject:
Re: Team3S: Possible fuel pump problem
For the fuel pump removal
instructions go to
www.stealth316.com.
Be
careful and do nor break off that output tube. But before you go to
remove
it, you could do some testing on it.
I solved the fuel pump
pressure problem last month. It was a mis-installed
or undersized fuel pump
O-ring. Read my report from 7/17/02 titled
"SOLVED!!! (Re: A bunch of
Air/Fuel problems)" in the archives. For the
list of problems that I had,
check out my posts from 7/15/02
titled "A bunch of Air/Fuel problems". Do not
forget to check the voltage
that
goes to that pump.
FYI: I have a
Supra pump. If you have a stock pump, then you have to
adjust your flow
numbers down. See
www.stealth316.com
again for more info.
Good luck,
Philip
-
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First - and this is the
stupid one - I've never touched the fuel pump on
this car. Where is
it?
Second, can it be bench tested like others? In/Out of the
car?
Anybody with some oother ideas what might be going
on?
Regards,
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