Team3S: 3000GT & Stealth  Wednesday, August 28 2002  Volume 01 : Number 938




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Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 16:32:38 -0400
From: "Mihai Raicu" <mraicu@wayne.edu>
Subject: RE: Team3S: RE: Police radars

The trailer radars usually can read your speed for two reasons.  One,
they get you in less than the 200-300 feet where the jammer does not
work anymore.  Two, those units are usually more powerful than the
police cruisers units.  They don't have to worry about radiating the
cops, therefore the zone where the jammer doesn't work may increase from
200-300 feet to 400-500 feet.

The ticket rebate is only for the 1st year.  It doesn't allow you to go
more than 10mph/10% over the limit.  Since most people speed more when
they get a ticket, they cannot take advantage of the rebate.
Personally, I never had to use the rebate.  I am speed ticketless.

- -MIHAI-
95 3000GT VR4

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Moe Prasad [mailto:mprasad@qwest.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 1:38 PM
> To: aa2345@wayne.edu; Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st
> Cc: anscray@attbi.com; dougusmagnus@attbi.com
> Subject: Re: Team3S: RE: Police radars
>
> Mihai,
>
> There is a radar setup as you enter DIA's east concourse.  Have you
ever
> tested it on that?
>
> Regarding the fine print about paying for a ticket within 10 mph of
the
> speed limit:  In 99.99% of the cases you only get pulled over when you
> exceed 10 mph over the speed limit. Even the radar at DIA doesn't
flash
> red
> until   you hit 56 mph. The speed limit there is 45 mph.
>
> I have seen tests done on TV with this unit and the radar was able to
tell
> the speed of the car.   Can you explain that?
>
> Rgds
> Moe
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mihai Raicu" <mraicu@wayne.edu>
> To: <Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
> Cc: <anscray@attbi.com>; <dougusmagnus@attbi.com>
> Sent: Monday, August 26, 2002 11:25 PM
> Subject: Team3S: RE: Police radars
>
>
> > I own the Rocky Mountain Radar+Laser Jammer and Radar Detector.  It
is a
> > small unit the size of a regular radar detector.  It protects from
the
> > front, but detects 360 deg.  Owning one (my brother has one too) for
the
> > past 4-5 years has jammed many troopers/local copucinos privacy
invading
> > equipment.  It does work.  A local Michigan 3SI member (is also on
Team
> > 3S list) has tested it in person against one particular band police
> > radar gun.  The jammer jammed the speed signal for the cop until he
got
> > within 200-300 feet.  Then the cop could read his speed.  This is
> > documented in the literature for the unit.
> >
> > The reason you probably see some bad publicity for this unit is
because
> > someone is trying to promote a different unit.
> >
> > Yours truly,
> >
> > -MIHAI-
> > 95 3000GT VR4
> > Rocky Mountain Radar/Laser Jammer and Detector
> >
> > A true believer in knowing when someone is invading my privacy.  I
wish
> > I could be invisible though.
> >
> >
> >
> > ***  Info:  http://www.Team3S.com/Rules.htm  ***
> >
> >



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Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 17:01:02 -0400
From: "Mihai Raicu" <mraicu@wayne.edu>
Subject: Team3S: RE: Police radars

Doug,

>What bands does it jam?  Does it jam all 3 (X, K and Ka)? 
>
It jams X, K, Ka, and Laser.  It is an active Laser jammer and passive
radar jammer.

>Does it actually jam the signal or does it emmit a dummy signal that
allows >you to program in your own speed? 
>
It will blank the readout of the cop's unit.  They will not get a speed
on you.

>Many police radar guns can detect jamming.  Does this one trip their
>jamming alert?
>
I do not know.  Supposedly it is VG2.  When I speed excessively and I
see a cop waiting on the median 1 mile ahead, I slow down to the limit
then unplug the unit.  However, in the city, when I go 40 mph, and if
there is another car near me, I will leave the unit plugged in just to
piss the dude off for invading my privacy.  Depends on the mood I'm in
and what rules I broke in the previous 10 seconds.


Doug
92 Stealth RT TT


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Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 17:01:29 -0400
From: "Mihai Raicu" <mraicu@wayne.edu>
Subject: Team3S: RE: Police Radars --> you can order one too

Here is how you can order your Jammer:

I ordered it from a company called Heartland America.  The phone number
is 800-229-2901.  Their website is www.heartlandamerica.com.  There is a
new model available that is called the Rocky Mountain Phantom II Radar
Detector (Item #: V7-78052).  It costs $249 after a $20 mail in rebate
(offer expires 8/31/02).  This new unit is a radar/laser jammer and
radar/laser detector.

Installation...plug it in the cigarette lighter and put it on the
windshield.  Make sure it's level with the ground and keep your eyes
peeled for cops.  You still have to break when you are close.  If a cop
is very close to you and uses instant on, they will have you.  If a cop
is on an onramp and getting you from the back as you zoom by him, the
detector will beep, but you have been had because you are too close to
him and the jammer only protects from the front.

- -MIHAI-
95 300GT VR4


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Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 17:09:23 -0400
From: "Furman, Russell" <RFurman2@MassMutual.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: RE: Police Radars --> you can order one too

Mihai, I appreciate the input but if it leaves you that vulnerable than I
would rather have my V1, which AFAIK has won the C&D detector shootout the
last 4 years in row........   Again this is IMHO due to only being bagged
once in 5 years and that time it was night and the cop was pacing me :(

> Installation...plug it in the cigarette lighter and put it on the
> windshield.  Make sure it's level with the ground and keep your eyes
> peeled for cops.  You still have to break when you are close.  If a cop
> is very close to you and uses instant on, they will have you.  If a cop
> is on an onramp and getting you from the back as you zoom by him, the
> detector will beep, but you have been had because you are too close to
> him and the jammer only protects from the front.
>
> -MIHAI-
> 95 300GT VR4
>
>
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Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 17:30:16 -0400
From: "Ken Stanton" <tt007ken@yahoo.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: RE: Police Radars --> you can order one too

I have the Phantom II, and have walked through many a trap.  I also got
gunned at very close range (50') at 25 over the limit and never even got any
attention let alone stopped.  I too was nabbed by a pacer, but that's life!
I swear by my PII out there on the highway though.

Ken

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-team3s@team3s.com [mailto:owner-team3s@team3s.com]On Behalf
> Of Mihai Raicu
> Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 5:01 PM
> To: Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st
> Cc: 'dakken'
> Subject: Team3S: RE: Police Radars --> you can order one too
>
>
> Here is how you can order your Jammer:
>
> I ordered it from a company called Heartland America.  The phone number
> is 800-229-2901.  Their website is www.heartlandamerica.com.  There is a
> new model available that is called the Rocky Mountain Phantom II Radar
> Detector (Item #: V7-78052).  It costs $249 after a $20 mail in rebate
> (offer expires 8/31/02).  This new unit is a radar/laser jammer and
> radar/laser detector.
>
> Installation...plug it in the cigarette lighter and put it on the
> windshield.  Make sure it's level with the ground and keep your eyes
> peeled for cops.  You still have to break when you are close.  If a cop
> is very close to you and uses instant on, they will have you.  If a cop
> is on an onramp and getting you from the back as you zoom by him, the
> detector will beep, but you have been had because you are too close to
> him and the jammer only protects from the front.
>
> -MIHAI-
> 95 300GT VR4
>
>
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Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 14:51:11 -0700
From: "BlackLight" <BlackLight@Planetice.net>
Subject: Team3S: Clutch problems again and again HELP!! Please!!!!

I am praying there is some miracle cure for the problem(s) my car has
come down with.

When I start up the car and even if I let it warm up when I start to get
moving the clutch will not engage enough (or there is something else
hindering the shifting) for me to get it into gear without grinding and
it's VERY hard to move. I have to turn the car off, put it into gear,
then start it back up and it acts like it wants to pull, but I still
have to let out the clutch a little ways to get it to move???

This is the kicker, once moving it is still almost impossible to shift
even while rev matching best I can, and get then, if I put on power to
get it in and take off, it will slip under power??????? This has been a
PERODIC problem, sometimes (like this afternoon) it was fine, sometimes
after you drive it around for a while it is fine, some times it starts
fine and gets worse, sometimes when you start it up it doesn't have any
problem at all and stays that way all day??? I have taken it to my
mechanic and this is what they have done (been there like 5 times now :(

Replaced . . . Clutch master cylinder, slave cylinder, and vacuum assist
valve. The clutch is new with less than 3000 miles on it put in when the
2nd gear syncro was replaced, it is a 12 puck 3SX clutch and also a new
Fidanza flywheel. Then have Re-removed the tranny (cost me ANOTHER $500
I didn't have and had to put it on credit card while unemployed!!)
messed with the lever arm, stuck a washer or something under it to give
it more travel to separate the pressure plate further, that still
doesn't work. It has since been back several times for checking lines,
adjusting, this and that (one time the clutch master cylinder lines were
not tight and the fluid leaked out). All of these problems started when
the tranny was fixed & clutch & flywheel were replaced.

I am out of time, out of money, and most definitely out of patience. Is
there anything you guys can suggest?? Please help me, this is the first
time I have asked a serious question for help on the tech list, but I am
also on 3Sracers, 3Si, Starnet, NWS3, and I organize meets for the
Portland lunch group when I can. This is also my 2nd stealth. I really
need some help / info / advice here!!! What the heck is going on!?!?!?!

Matt Nelson
1994 RT TT
BlackLight@Planetice.Net
www.BlackLight.5u.com



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Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 18:18:43 -0400
From: "Zobel, Kurt" <Kurt.Zobel@ca.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Clutch problems again and again HELP!! Please!!!!

Sounds like FOD between the pressure plate and flywheel.
Maybe a warped clutch disc, but never saw one bad enough to cause problems.
This can happen if clutch parts or disc material gets lodged on one side.
You can't release enough to fully release, yet once released, you cannot get flush contact, only partial engagement. As the debris move a bit, the response changes.

Hope its something else, but sounds terminal.

Kurt  

- -----Original Message-----
From: BlackLight [mailto:BlackLight@Planetice.net]
Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 2:51 PM
To: team3S@team3s.com
Subject: Team3S: Clutch problems again and again HELP!! Please!!!!


I am praying there is some miracle cure for the problem(s) my car has
come down with.

When I start up the car and even if I let it warm up when I start to get
moving the clutch will not engage enough (or there is something else
hindering the shifting) for me to get it into gear without grinding and
it's VERY hard to move. I have to turn the car off, put it into gear,
then start it back up and it acts like it wants to pull, but I still
have to let out the clutch a little ways to get it to move???

This is the kicker, once moving it is still almost impossible to shift
even while rev matching best I can, and get then, if I put on power to
get it in and take off, it will slip under power??????? This has been a
PERODIC problem, sometimes (like this afternoon) it was fine, sometimes
after you drive it around for a while it is fine, some times it starts
fine and gets worse, sometimes when you start it up it doesn't have any
problem at all and stays that way all day??? I have taken it to my
mechanic and this is what they have done (been there like 5 times now :(

Replaced . . . Clutch master cylinder, slave cylinder, and vacuum assist
valve. The clutch is new with less than 3000 miles on it put in when the
2nd gear syncro was replaced, it is a 12 puck 3SX clutch and also a new
Fidanza flywheel. Then have Re-removed the tranny (cost me ANOTHER $500
I didn't have and had to put it on credit card while unemployed!!)
messed with the lever arm, stuck a washer or something under it to give
it more travel to separate the pressure plate further, that still
doesn't work. It has since been back several times for checking lines,
adjusting, this and that (one time the clutch master cylinder lines were
not tight and the fluid leaked out). All of these problems started when
the tranny was fixed & clutch & flywheel were replaced.

I am out of time, out of money, and most definitely out of patience. Is
there anything you guys can suggest?? Please help me, this is the first
time I have asked a serious question for help on the tech list, but I am
also on 3Sracers, 3Si, Starnet, NWS3, and I organize meets for the
Portland lunch group when I can. This is also my 2nd stealth. I really
need some help / info / advice here!!! What the heck is going on!?!?!?!

Matt Nelson
1994 RT TT
BlackLight@Planetice.Net
www.BlackLight.5u.com



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Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 22:19:31 +0000
From: mjannusch@attbi.com
Subject: Re: Team3S: Clutch problems again and again HELP!! Please!!!!

> I am praying there is some miracle cure for the
> problem(s) my car has come down with.

If I had to take a guess, I'd say your clutch has a
defective pressure plate.  For it to not release AND
slip under power there's got to be something wrong there.

Another possibility is that you actually adjusted (or
someone did) the clutch lever rod too far out of the
pedal assembly and it is preloading the clutch cylinder
which can cause all sorts of wacky
engagement/disengagement problems.  Try adjusting it so
the rod is screwed more into the pedal assembly, give it
a few pumps and see where the disengagement point is. 
Hopefully it'll have moved back to a more normal
position and then use small adjustments from there.

- -Matt
'95 3000GT Spyder VR4

- -Matt
'95 3000GT Spyder VR4

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Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 17:01:08 -0700
From: "dakken" <dougusmagnus@attbi.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Clutch Question (engagement point)

When I had a RPS clutch installed, the engagement point was just a couple of
inches above the floor.  I didn't like it.  I just adjusted the pedal so
that the clutch engages and disengages near the top of the pedal now.  I
like it a lot better now.

Adjusting the pedal is easy.  Just take a wrench ( I believe it is 17mm ),
loosen the lock nut and then turn the adjustment screw with a pair of
pliers.  Start the engine and check the engagement point every now and then.
When you are happy with the engagement point, tighten the lock nut back
down.


Doug
92 Stealth RT TT


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Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 00:00:28 -0400
From: "Philip V. Glazatov" <gphilip@umich.edu>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Clutch Question (engagement point)

At 20:01 8/27/2002, dakken wrote:
>Adjusting the pedal is easy.  Just take a wrench ( I believe it is 17mm ),
>loosen the lock nut and then turn the adjustment screw with a pair of
>pliers.  Start the engine and check the engagement point every now and then.
>When you are happy with the engagement point, tighten the lock nut back
>down.

That is easier said than done. Most of the people who want to make the
engagement point higher are already out of the screw adjustment range. And
you have to have some free play there, you know.

Philip


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Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 00:50:12 -0700
From: "BlackLight" <BlackLight@Planetice.net>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Clutch problems again and again HELP!! Please!!!!

The tranny has already been removed and reinstalled once, so I doubt
that would be the problem, but I will bring it up with my mechanic and
see what he says.

Matt Nelson
1994 RT TT
BlackLight@Planetice.Net
www.BlackLight.5u.com

- -----Original Message-----
From: Zobel, Kurt [mailto:Kurt.Zobel@ca.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 3:19 PM
To: BlackLight; team3S@team3s.com
Subject: RE: Team3S: Clutch problems again and again HELP!! Please!!!!


Sounds like FOD between the pressure plate and flywheel.
Maybe a warped clutch disc, but never saw one bad enough to cause
problems. This can happen if clutch parts or disc material gets lodged
on one side. You can't release enough to fully release, yet once
released, you cannot get flush contact, only partial engagement. As the
debris move a bit, the response changes.

Hope its something else, but sounds terminal.

Kurt  

- -----Original Message-----
From: BlackLight [mailto:BlackLight@Planetice.net]
Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 2:51 PM
To: team3S@team3s.com
Subject: Team3S: Clutch problems again and again HELP!! Please!!!!


I am praying there is some miracle cure for the problem(s) my car has
come down with.

When I start up the car and even if I let it warm up when I start to get
moving the clutch will not engage enough (or there is something else
hindering the shifting) for me to get it into gear without grinding and
it's VERY hard to move. I have to turn the car off, put it into gear,
then start it back up and it acts like it wants to pull, but I still
have to let out the clutch a little ways to get it to move???

This is the kicker, once moving it is still almost impossible to shift
even while rev matching best I can, and get then, if I put on power to
get it in and take off, it will slip under power??????? This has been a
PERODIC problem, sometimes (like this afternoon) it was fine, sometimes
after you drive it around for a while it is fine, some times it starts
fine and gets worse, sometimes when you start it up it doesn't have any
problem at all and stays that way all day??? I have taken it to my
mechanic and this is what they have done (been there like 5 times now :(

Replaced . . . Clutch master cylinder, slave cylinder, and vacuum assist
valve. The clutch is new with less than 3000 miles on it put in when the
2nd gear syncro was replaced, it is a 12 puck 3SX clutch and also a new
Fidanza flywheel. Then have Re-removed the tranny (cost me ANOTHER $500
I didn't have and had to put it on credit card while unemployed!!)
messed with the lever arm, stuck a washer or something under it to give
it more travel to separate the pressure plate further, that still
doesn't work. It has since been back several times for checking lines,
adjusting, this and that (one time the clutch master cylinder lines were
not tight and the fluid leaked out). All of these problems started when
the tranny was fixed & clutch & flywheel were replaced.

I am out of time, out of money, and most definitely out of patience. Is
there anything you guys can suggest?? Please help me, this is the first
time I have asked a serious question for help on the tech list, but I am
also on 3Sracers, 3Si, Starnet, NWS3, and I organize meets for the
Portland lunch group when I can. This is also my 2nd stealth. I really
need some help / info / advice here!!! What the heck is going on!?!?!?!

Matt Nelson
1994 RT TT
BlackLight@Planetice.Net
www.BlackLight.5u.com



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Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 05:14:27 -0700
From: Andrew Woll <awoll1@pacbell.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Clutch problems again and again HELP!! Please!!!!

It sounds like you have ruled out just about everything. The problem sounds
like the clutch disk material is either defective or oil soaked. Is the
clutch installer willing to put in another disk? It does not sound like the
flywheel or the pressure plate, although a sticking spring in the pressure
plate could do it. Good luck.
- ----- Original Message -----
From: "BlackLight" <BlackLight@Planetice.net>
To: "'Zobel, Kurt'" <Kurt.Zobel@ca.com>; <team3S@team3s.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2002 12:50 AM
Subject: RE: Team3S: Clutch problems again and again HELP!! Please!!!!


| The tranny has already been removed and reinstalled once, so I doubt
| that would be the problem, but I will bring it up with my mechanic and
| see what he says.
|
| Matt Nelson
| 1994 RT TT
| BlackLight@Planetice.Net
| www.BlackLight.5u.com
|
| -----Original Message-----
| From: Zobel, Kurt [mailto:Kurt.Zobel@ca.com]
| Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 3:19 PM
| To: BlackLight; team3S@team3s.com
| Subject: RE: Team3S: Clutch problems again and again HELP!! Please!!!!
|
|
| Sounds like FOD between the pressure plate and flywheel.
| Maybe a warped clutch disc, but never saw one bad enough to cause
| problems. This can happen if clutch parts or disc material gets lodged
| on one side. You can't release enough to fully release, yet once
| released, you cannot get flush contact, only partial engagement. As the
| debris move a bit, the response changes.
|
| Hope its something else, but sounds terminal.
|
| Kurt
|
| -----Original Message-----
| From: BlackLight [mailto:BlackLight@Planetice.net]
| Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 2:51 PM
| To: team3S@team3s.com
| Subject: Team3S: Clutch problems again and again HELP!! Please!!!!
|
|
| I am praying there is some miracle cure for the problem(s) my car has
| come down with.
|
| When I start up the car and even if I let it warm up when I start to get
| moving the clutch will not engage enough (or there is something else
| hindering the shifting) for me to get it into gear without grinding and
| it's VERY hard to move. I have to turn the car off, put it into gear,
| then start it back up and it acts like it wants to pull, but I still
| have to let out the clutch a little ways to get it to move???
|
| This is the kicker, once moving it is still almost impossible to shift
| even while rev matching best I can, and get then, if I put on power to
| get it in and take off, it will slip under power??????? This has been a
| PERODIC problem, sometimes (like this afternoon) it was fine, sometimes
| after you drive it around for a while it is fine, some times it starts
| fine and gets worse, sometimes when you start it up it doesn't have any
| problem at all and stays that way all day??? I have taken it to my
| mechanic and this is what they have done (been there like 5 times now :(
|
| Replaced . . . Clutch master cylinder, slave cylinder, and vacuum assist
| valve. The clutch is new with less than 3000 miles on it put in when the
| 2nd gear syncro was replaced, it is a 12 puck 3SX clutch and also a new
| Fidanza flywheel. Then have Re-removed the tranny (cost me ANOTHER $500
| I didn't have and had to put it on credit card while unemployed!!)
| messed with the lever arm, stuck a washer or something under it to give
| it more travel to separate the pressure plate further, that still
| doesn't work. It has since been back several times for checking lines,
| adjusting, this and that (one time the clutch master cylinder lines were
| not tight and the fluid leaked out). All of these problems started when
| the tranny was fixed & clutch & flywheel were replaced.
|
| I am out of time, out of money, and most definitely out of patience. Is
| there anything you guys can suggest?? Please help me, this is the first
| time I have asked a serious question for help on the tech list, but I am
| also on 3Sracers, 3Si, Starnet, NWS3, and I organize meets for the
| Portland lunch group when I can. This is also my 2nd stealth. I really
| need some help / info / advice here!!! What the heck is going on!?!?!?!
|
| Matt Nelson
| 1994 RT TT
| BlackLight@Planetice.Net
| www.BlackLight.5u.com
|
|
|
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|
|
|
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Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 10:08:08 -0500
From: "Geisel, Brian" <brian.geisel@hp.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Trailer hitches

Hey Al,
I was looking to pull a small U-haul with my AWD, so I called them (U-haul) and they told me that it was capable of pulling a class 2 hitch.  I think that is 3500 or 4000 lbs.  You can probably just call them and find out, but don't do it short notice - a hitch for our cars is special order.

geis

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Elbert Klob [mailto:elbertklob@megared.net.mx]
> Sent: Monday, August 26, 2002 8:23 PM
> To: Team 3S
> Subject: Team3S: Trailer hitches
>
>
> team 3s
>
> I have a 1992 Dodge Stealth N/A. According to the manual you
> cannot put
> a trailer hitch onto this car. If this information is wrong I
> would very
> much like to know the limitations of towing with a Stealth. I need the
> ability to tow as I am building a hovercraft and want to be
> able to tow
> it.
>
> Thanks for any advice that you have.
>
> Al Klob
>
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Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 16:01:01 +0000
From: mjannusch@attbi.com
Subject: Re: Team3S: Clutch Question (engagement point)

> That is easier said than done. Most of the people who
> want to make the engagement point higher are already
> out of the screw adjustment range. And you have to
> have some free play there, you know.

If they are that far to the end of the adjustment, then
there's a different problem that the adjustment can't
correct, or they created the problem themselves by going
too far on the adjustment and preloading the clutch
cylinder, or have some sort of gorilla clutch which
wasn't designed to disengage properly.

- -Matt
'95 3000GT Spyder VR4
> At 20:01 8/27/2002, dakken wrote:
> >Adjusting the pedal is easy.  Just take a wrench ( I believe it is 17mm ),
> >loosen the lock nut and then turn the adjustment screw with a pair of
> >pliers.  Start the engine and check the engagement point every now and then.
> >When you are happy with the engagement point, tighten the lock nut back
> >down.
>
> That is easier said than done. Most of the people who want to make the
> engagement point higher are already out of the screw adjustment range. And
> you have to have some free play there, you know.
>
> Philip
>
>
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Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 10:18:16 -0700 (PDT)
From: "joe d." <ja_dorsey@yahoo.com>
Subject: Team3S: wheel fitment for '91 R/T TT

Do we really only have 3 options for 18" wheels?
SSR GT1
SSR GT3
Moda R6

I've tried Konig but they have nothing that fits
because of the brake clearance problems.  What other
brands (if any) make 18s that fit a 1st gen TT?

Thanks,
jd

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Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 13:22:07 -0400
From: "Furman, Russell" <RFurman2@MassMutual.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: wheel fitment for '91 R/T TT

Enkei RPO1's  (discount tire direct do a search by size + bolt pattern)
Also try wheeloptions.com (they sell allot of wheels but no prices)

Also try Dazzmotorsports.com

Hope this helps
Russ F
CT

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> From: joe d. [SMTP:ja_dorsey@yahoo.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2002 1:18 PM
> To: Team3s@stealth-3000gt.st
> Subject: Team3S: wheel fitment for '91 R/T TT
>
> Do we really only have 3 options for 18" wheels?
> SSR GT1
> SSR GT3
> Moda R6
>
> I've tried Konig but they have nothing that fits
> because of the brake clearance problems.  What other
> brands (if any) make 18s that fit a 1st gen TT?
>
> Thanks,
> jd
>
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Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 14:29:06 -0400
From: pvg1@daimlerchrysler.com
Subject: Re: Team3S: Clutch Question (engagement point)

Okay, how about this... It is possible to adust the height of the pedal
within a limited range or adjustment. It is also possible to make the free
play minimal. This way it is possible to move the range or pedal travel as
high as possible and also make that range as long as possible. But with
the free play already minimized, it is NOT possible to make the engagement
point higher without pre-loading the clutch. It is also not possible to
make the engagement point lower without increasing the free play.

The engagement point on our clutches is not adjustable. It is set
somewhere inside the hydraulic system. It is possible to adjust the
position of the clutch pedal pedal, but the engagement point will just
move with the pedal. If the clutch was engaging in the middle of the
travel, it will still be engaging in the middle of the travel, no matter
where that clutch pedal is positioned.

If the free play is adjusted correctly, then the engagement point could be
too low either because the hydraulic system is leaking (internally or
externally), has air it it, or because some clutch components (flywheel,
pressure plate, springs, clutch disk, throughout bearing, fork) are either
damaged, bent, or improperly installed.

Philip

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> > That is easier said than done. Most of the people who
> > want to make the engagement point higher are already
> > out of the screw adjustment range. And you have to
> > have some free play there, you know.
>
> If they are that far to the end of the adjustment, then
> there's a different problem that the adjustment can't
> correct, or they created the problem themselves by going
> too far on the adjustment and preloading the clutch
> cylinder, or have some sort of gorilla clutch which
> wasn't designed to disengage properly.
>
> -Matt
> '95 3000GT Spyder VR4





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Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 14:29:33 EDT
From: <pedenkoa@msu.edu>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Clutch Question (engagement point)

Okay, i'm confused. My understanding was that when you adjust the pushrod,
you don't just move the engagement point, you move the entire range - i.e.
both the engagement point and the full pressure point. When the clutch first
begins to hook up, you're not yet supplying the full pressure to the disk,
right? Full pressure, or rather maximum pressure for a given adjustment to
the disk is then supplied when your foot is completely off the pedal. Which
means that while pulling the engagement point up from the floor may
eliminate problems with the clutch not disengaging, wouldn't it create
problems with the clutch slipping, because it's not completely engaged? Or
am I wrong?

BTW, are the people that are experiencing these problems all RPS users? I
know I am and several others mentioned that they were as well...

Alex.

'95 VR4

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Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 15:10:32 EDT
From: <pedenkoa@msu.edu>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Clutch Question (engagement point) (resend)

My email client is funky - i don't think this went through:


It's my understanding by the way you make the adjustment, that you _can_
change the point of engagement relative to the pedal travel. When you adjust
the pushrod, you're not adjusting the pedal, you're adjust the outer
boundries of travel for the rod - i.e. let's say the rod is 60mm long, and
with the pedal fully depressed, it is 40 mm pushed in, and when fully
released, it is 10 mm pushed in. You can adjust it so that fully depressed
it's at 50mm and fully released it's at 20mm. While this doesn't change the
amount that the rod needs to be pushed in to hit the engagement point, this
changes the point of engagement relative to the pedal travel. But if this is
correct, then this also implies that you can't move just one point - you
can't move just the engagement point and leave the full engagement point
where it is. You can shift the entire range, not individual points on it.

If you shift the engagement point too high, then you may shift the full
engagement point past the point where the pedal stops moving. This would
then have the effect of driving around while constantly applying some
pressure to the pedal...

Alex.

>
> Okay, how about this... It is possible to adust the height of the pedal
> within a limited range or adjustment. It is also possible to make the free
> play minimal. This way it is possible to move the range or pedal travel as
> high as possible and also make that range as long as possible. But with
> the free play already minimized, it is NOT possible to make the engagement
> point higher without pre-loading the clutch. It is also not possible to
> make the engagement point lower without increasing the free play.
>
> The engagement point on our clutches is not adjustable. It is set
> somewhere inside the hydraulic system. It is possible to adjust the
> position of the clutch pedal pedal, but the engagement point will just
> move with the pedal. If the clutch was engaging in the middle of the
> travel, it will still be engaging in the middle of the travel, no matter
> where that clutch pedal is positioned.
>
> If the free play is adjusted correctly, then the engagement point could be
> too low either because the hydraulic system is leaking (internally or
> externally), has air it it, or because some clutch components (flywheel,
> pressure plate, springs, clutch disk, throughout bearing, fork) are either
> damaged, bent, or improperly installed.
>
> Philip
>
> -----------------------------------
>
> > > That is easier said than done. Most of the people who
> > > want to make the engagement point higher are already
> > > out of the screw adjustment range. And you have to
> > > have some free play there, you know.
> >
> > > If they are that far to the end of the adjustment, then
> > > there's a different problem that the adjustment can't
> > > correct, or they created the problem themselves by going
> > > too far on the adjustment and preloading the clutch
> > > cylinder, or have some sort of gorilla clutch which
> > > wasn't designed to disengage properly.
> > >
> > > -Matt
> > > '95 3000GT Spyder VR4
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 15:16:04 -0400
From: pvg1@daimlerchrysler.com
Subject: Re: Team3S: Clutch Question (engagement point)

> My understanding was that when you adjust the pushrod,
> you don't just move the engagement point, you move the entire range -
i.e.
> both the engagement point and the full pressure point.

Yep.

> When the clutch first
> begins to hook up, you're not yet supplying the full pressure to the
disk,
> right? Full pressure, or rather maximum pressure for a given adjustment
to
> the disk is then supplied when your foot is completely off the pedal.
Which
> means that while pulling the engagement point up from the floor may
> eliminate problems with the clutch not disengaging, wouldn't it create
> problems with the clutch slipping, because it's not completely engaged?
Or
> am I wrong?

If you have some free play left, then it will engage completely.

> BTW, are the people that are experiencing these problems all RPS users?
I
> know I am and several others mentioned that they were as well...

I have a stock clutch (still). I do not have a problem, but I still wish I
could have that clutch disengage earlier.

Philip




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Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 16:27:07 -0400
From: "Andre Cerri" <cerri@intersystems.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Training Me 101: O2 Sensors, TPS

Rockville charges about $105, as I did this recently. As always, shop around
though as locals wanted $171.....

- -----Original Message-----
From: owner-team3s@team3s.com [mailto:owner-team3s@team3s.com]On Behalf
Of Bedrock
Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 6:05 PM
To: Team3S
Subject: Re: Team3S: Training Me 101: O2 Sensors, TPS


I took out the TPS but I don't want to break it trying what Jim suggested.
When I turn it by hand its almost like I can feel it hitting flat spots
along the way back to the stop position ? If I do break it where is the best
place to get one ( no hurry ) and about how much will it run me?


Bob
White/Red 91 RT/TT, Original at 135,000+
- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Fay" <jfay@tssu.com>
To: "'Bedrock'" <bedrock@attbi.com>
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2002 8:51 AM
Subject: RE: Team3S: Training Me 101: O2 Sensors


> I have had the same problem with the TPS.  Remove the TPS and take a hair
> dryer and soften the glue seal on the face.  The seal can then be removed
> and there is a snap in plastic cover over a potentiometer.  This pot has
> four leads soldered to a cir board, the leads are the plug in pins for the
> connector.  You can resolder the pins as the origional solder has probably
> given up.  You will likely see a crack around one or all of the solder
> joints.  Snap the cover back inplace and cover the plate with black
silicon
> to keep dirt out and retain the stock appearance.  Mine has been OK for
over
> six months now.
>
> Jim
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-team3s@team3s.com [mailto:owner-team3s@team3s.com]On Behalf
> Of Bedrock
> Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 1:58 AM
> To: Team3S
> Subject: Re: Team3S: Training Me 101: O2 Sensors
>
>
> Thanks Ill get the book out and check for continuity this week. there is
no
> rust
>
>
> Bob
> White/Red 91 RT/TT, Original at 135,000+
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "cody" <overclck@satx.rr.com>
> To: "'Bedrock'" <bedrock@attbi.com>; "'Team3S'" <Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
> Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2002 10:49 PM
> Subject: RE: Team3S: Training Me 101: O2 Sensors
>
>
> > Nope, but sometimes the TPS can be faulty, yet read correct 98% of the
> > time...  You might also check wiring harnesses for rust, continuity,
> > etc...
> >
> > -Cody
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-team3s@team3s.com [mailto:owner-team3s@team3s.com] On Behalf
> > Of Bedrock
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 1:08 AM
> > To: Team3S
> > Subject: Re: Team3S: Training Me 101: O2 Sensors
> >
> > I have a quick question this thread might be able to answer. My check
> > engine
> > light comes on randomly but more in hot weather. If I goose the gas it
> > goes
> > out. I checked the codes and the only one is the throttle position
> > sensor. I
> > did a test on the tps according to the manual and it checks out ok. If I
> > clear the code it only comes back as a tps? Is there another sensor that
> > feeds or in my case sometimes not feeding a signal to the tps resulting
> > in a
> > code on it? Or do I really have a bad spot on my tps? Thanks.
> >
> > Bob
> > White/Red 91 RT/TT, Original at 135,000+
> >
> >
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