Team3S: 3000GT & Stealth    Monday, August 26 2002    Volume 01 : Number 936




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Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2002 11:11:49 -0700
From: Andrew Woll <awoll1@pacbell.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S: ignition switch and tobacco smell in air vents

The smell is probably mold. Most AC units develope it sooner or later. The
solution is either simple or complex - your choice. You can have a dealer
open up the evaporator box under the dash and clean it. (very complicated
and expensive), or you can spray a healthy quantifty of lysol spray into the
recirc air opening near the footwells. You may need to do this once a week
for a couple of weeks, but it works pretty well. Bear in mind that until the
lysol works its way out of the system it will cause a pretty strong smell on
its own. I have done this method myself on several cars and trucks and it
works well. If you do it in the winter it works even better because the mold
is pretty well controlled by cold weather anyway. Good luck and please
report your results.

Andy
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From: "Kimberly Byrd" <kimbyrd@webtv.net>
To: <team3s@stealth-3000gt.st>
Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2002 5:12 AM
Subject: Team3S: ignition switch and tobacco smell in air vents


| Some of you wanted to know what my problem was with the car not
| starting.  When I would turn the key to start the car, nothing would
| happen. No noise, nothing. I would have to turn the key 8-10 times
| before it would finally start. It was the ignition switch. Thanks for
| all of those that offered advice.
|
| Now, I have a new problem. It's not anything serious, but I would like
| to know what it is. I am very migraine prone and am sensitive to smells.
| If I run my air conditioner for say 10 minutes, there is a smell that
| comes out like pipe tobacco. I would like to get rid of the smell. My
| car is a daily driver and the smell makes me sicker if I have a
| headache. Any ideas as to what it is? I have owned the car for a year
| and I didn't notice it last summer. Thanks, Kim
|
|
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Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2002 12:07:20 -0700
From: "fastmax" <fastmax@cox.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S: ignition switch and tobacco smell in air vents

There is a product [ dealers use it ] that you spray into the evaporator to
eliminate the smell. It's a foam that fills the evaporator box and then dries
out. You need access to the inlet to the evaporator, drill a small hole, turn
on the fan inject foam until the box is full turn off the A/C and let it dry.
Dealer probably charges a fortune, I'll see if I can find the name of the
product.

        Jim Berry
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From: "Andrew Woll" <awoll1@pacbell.net>


> The smell is probably mold. Most AC units develope it sooner or later. The
> solution is either simple or complex - your choice. You can have a dealer
> open up the evaporator box under the dash and clean it. (very complicated
> and expensive), or you can spray a healthy quantifty of lysol spray into the
> recirc air opening near the footwells. You may need to do this once a week
> for a couple of weeks, but it works pretty well. Bear in mind that until the
> lysol works its way out of the system it will cause a pretty strong smell on
> its own. I have done this method myself on several cars and trucks and it
> works well. If you do it in the winter it works even better because the mold
> is pretty well controlled by cold weather anyway. Good luck and please
> report your results.




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Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2002 15:47:32 EDT
From: Jawscardodger@cs.com
Subject: Team3S: Rear Head Removal ?

 I have some bent valves I got the front head. Now I need to take the rear
head off. Does anybody have any tips, tricks or instructions for removing the
rear head? Is there anything I should check or replace why the heads are off?
  Thanks Jim

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Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2002 13:49:09 -0700
From: Andrew Woll <awoll1@pacbell.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S: ignition switch and tobacco smell in air vents

Here is a possible solution

http://www.properautocare.com/wuracheatsys.html
- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Kimberly Byrd" <kimbyrd@webtv.net>
To: <team3s@stealth-3000gt.st>
Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2002 5:12 AM
Subject: Team3S: ignition switch and tobacco smell in air vents


| Some of you wanted to know what my problem was with the car not
| starting.  When I would turn the key to start the car, nothing would
| happen. No noise, nothing. I would have to turn the key 8-10 times
| before it would finally start. It was the ignition switch. Thanks for
| all of those that offered advice.
|
| Now, I have a new problem. It's not anything serious, but I would like
| to know what it is. I am very migraine prone and am sensitive to smells.
| If I run my air conditioner for say 10 minutes, there is a smell that
| comes out like pipe tobacco. I would like to get rid of the smell. My
| car is a daily driver and the smell makes me sicker if I have a
| headache. Any ideas as to what it is? I have owned the car for a year
| and I didn't notice it last summer. Thanks, Kim
|
|
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Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2002 21:17:00 -0400
From: "Wayne Bonnett" <wayne@wbwebsol.com>
Subject: Team3S: Track trailer and hitch help

Ok guys, today marked my first whole year doing autocross, and I've got 1st
place in my last 4 events.  I feel pretty good about this stuff, and now I'm
wanting to find a track trailer and find out how difficult it is to hook up
a hitch to our cars.  I have a 97 3000GT base model, and I'll be purchasing
new wheels and tires for street use, and using my current stock wheels for
the race rubber!

Can anyone point me in the right place to find what I'm looking for?  I
think I've found the trailer I want, I think a 4' x 4' should do the trick.
Now, about the hitch, any suggestions?

Thanks for all your help!

Wayne
97 3000 Base (Black)
TEC front strut bar
Cusco rear strut bar
K&N FIPK
Intrax springs
Bridgestone PP S03's
see my car at www.cardomain.com/id/169bsp


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Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2002 19:03:54 -0700
From: "fastmax" <fastmax@cox.net>
Subject: Team3S: Re: 3S-Racers: Track trailer and hitch help

I've got a hitch on my 93 [ I can't find the pictures of it ]. I ordered it through
U-Haul  a couple of years ago --- I think it was about $180 installed but they
couldn't figure out how to install it. You have to remove the tie down hooks in
the rear of the car and remove a couple of the muffler hanger bolts [ I think ].
It's a 1" receiver so with out the draw bar it's almost invisible. It's made for the
car so the fit is near perfect.

The company that manufactures them has a web site but I can't remember the
name --- a search for hitches should give you the company.

        Jim Berry
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From: "Wayne Bonnett" <wayne@wbwebsol.com>
To: "3sracers" <3sracers@www.speedtoys.com>; "Team3S" <Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>; "Starnet3/s" <stealth@stls.verio.net>
Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2002 6:17 PM
Subject: 3S-Racers: Track trailer and hitch help


> Ok guys, today marked my first whole year doing autocross, and I've got 1st
> place in my last 4 events.  I feel pretty good about this stuff, and now I'm
> wanting to find a track trailer and find out how difficult it is to hook up
> a hitch to our cars.  I have a 97 3000GT base model, and I'll be purchasing
> new wheels and tires for street use, and using my current stock wheels for
> the race rubber!
>
> Can anyone point me in the right place to find what I'm looking for?  I
> think I've found the trailer I want, I think a 4' x 4' should do the trick.
> Now, about the hitch, any suggestions?
>
> Thanks for all your help!
>
> Wayne
> 97 3000 Base (Black)
> TEC front strut bar
> Cusco rear strut bar
> K&N FIPK
> Intrax springs
> Bridgestone PP S03's
> see my car at www.cardomain.com/id/169bsp
>
>
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Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 02:08:27 -0400
From: "Bedrock" <bedrock@attbi.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Training Me 101: O2 Sensors

I have a quick question this thread might be able to answer. My check engine
light comes on randomly but more in hot weather. If I goose the gas it goes
out. I checked the codes and the only one is the throttle position sensor. I
did a test on the tps according to the manual and it checks out ok. If I
clear the code it only comes back as a tps? Is there another sensor that
feeds or in my case sometimes not feeding a signal to the tps resulting in a
code on it? Or do I really have a bad spot on my tps? Thanks.

Bob
White/Red 91 RT/TT, Original at 135,000+



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Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2002 21:49:07 -0500
From: "cody" <overclck@satx.rr.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Training Me 101: O2 Sensors

Nope, but sometimes the TPS can be faulty, yet read correct 98% of the
time...  You might also check wiring harnesses for rust, continuity,
etc...

- -Cody

- -----Original Message-----
From: owner-team3s@team3s.com [mailto:owner-team3s@team3s.com] On Behalf
Of Bedrock
Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 1:08 AM
To: Team3S
Subject: Re: Team3S: Training Me 101: O2 Sensors

I have a quick question this thread might be able to answer. My check
engine
light comes on randomly but more in hot weather. If I goose the gas it
goes
out. I checked the codes and the only one is the throttle position
sensor. I
did a test on the tps according to the manual and it checks out ok. If I
clear the code it only comes back as a tps? Is there another sensor that
feeds or in my case sometimes not feeding a signal to the tps resulting
in a
code on it? Or do I really have a bad spot on my tps? Thanks.

Bob
White/Red 91 RT/TT, Original at 135,000+



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Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 02:57:48 -0400
From: "Bedrock" <bedrock@attbi.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Training Me 101: O2 Sensors

Thanks Ill get the book out and check for continuity this week. there is no
rust


Bob
White/Red 91 RT/TT, Original at 135,000+
- ----- Original Message -----
From: "cody" <overclck@satx.rr.com>
To: "'Bedrock'" <bedrock@attbi.com>; "'Team3S'" <Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2002 10:49 PM
Subject: RE: Team3S: Training Me 101: O2 Sensors


> Nope, but sometimes the TPS can be faulty, yet read correct 98% of the
> time...  You might also check wiring harnesses for rust, continuity,
> etc...
>
> -Cody
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-team3s@team3s.com [mailto:owner-team3s@team3s.com] On Behalf
> Of Bedrock
> Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 1:08 AM
> To: Team3S
> Subject: Re: Team3S: Training Me 101: O2 Sensors
>
> I have a quick question this thread might be able to answer. My check
> engine
> light comes on randomly but more in hot weather. If I goose the gas it
> goes
> out. I checked the codes and the only one is the throttle position
> sensor. I
> did a test on the tps according to the manual and it checks out ok. If I
> clear the code it only comes back as a tps? Is there another sensor that
> feeds or in my case sometimes not feeding a signal to the tps resulting
> in a
> code on it? Or do I really have a bad spot on my tps? Thanks.
>
> Bob
> White/Red 91 RT/TT, Original at 135,000+
>
>
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Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2002 23:30:41 EDT
From: GoblinyTwin@aol.com
Subject: Team3S: Clutch booster problem..

Need the answer really bad, can't drive my 94 TT at all !!!!!

I have a little problem in adjusting the clutch booster on my 94 stealth TT,
and people in the shop want to charge me a little fortune for it.  I put a
new clutch booster in my car and I need to adjust the clearance between the
booster push rod and the master cylinder piston.  I do have CD manual that
tells me how to adjust it, and I do use digital calipers (micro meter ), but
for some reason I can't get it right.  The fire wall and the bracket that the
booster is mounted on is confusing me when I calculate the measurements.  So,
I guess my question is do you have any tips and/or advise on how to do it. 
Also, can this cause the clutch to be very stiff.  When I bought the booster
from a Mitsubishi dealer they told me that it comes pre adjusted so I put it
in without and adjustments.  The clutch had a lot of free play and the
booster push rod would go in about 2 in. without resistance (no hydraulic
pressure on the push rod ).  After that it would get hard and clutch pedal
would go in about 3 in (clutch pedal stroke about 3 in.) and hit the floor. 
Shifting in the 1st and 2nd gear would be hard.  I tried to adjust the free
play and the clevis pin play on the push rod and the position switch. 
(Turned them all the way up, did not help) 
It would be really helpful if someone could answer my question..
Thanks Vedran.

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Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2002 00:48:56 -0400
From: "Philip V. Glazatov" <gphilip@umich.edu>
Subject: Team3S: Anti-sieze on wheel studs - TESTED ;-)

I have been rotating the wheels today and changing the brake pads. I have
been lazily following the discussion about the anti-seize on wheel studs
and the torque change due to that. I have not used a torque wrench until I
bought it for some engine work last year. Engines are weird animals - they
have really strange torque specifications that are often for serious
reasons, but that is a different story... I stripped and snapped many bolts
in my life and developed a "calibrated" hand so to speak.

I thought that putting anti-seize on wheel studs was a great idea. So I
applied plenty of anti-seize and decided to torque using the torque wrench
to 90 lbs (just because).  I FELT SCARED WHILE I WAS TRYING TO APPLY 90
ft-lbs TO IT. I felt like if I turn it another 5 degrees the studs would
snap. Mind you, I used to torque them to almost 105 ft-lbs with dry
threads. So, I guess, 80% of the recommended torque is the right number.
Next time I won't torque those lug nuts past 85 ft-lbs.

Philip

At 11:58 8/23/2002, glenn vrfour wrote:
>The previous discussion was concerning the reduction
>in friction between the studs and lug nuts when using
>an anti-sieze compound on the studs resulting in an
>increase in the clamping force.
>
>According to James at STL, when using their product
>you reduce the torque spec for the lugs by 20 percent.
>
>According to stealth316.com (thanks Jeff).  Lug nuts
>should be torqued to 88-103 ft/lb.
>
>So, IN MY OPINION lug nuts should be torqued to
>80ft/lbs when using an anti-sieze compound.
>
>Glenn


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Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2002 00:51:35 -0400
From: "Philip V. Glazatov" <gphilip@umich.edu>
Subject: Team3S: Just venting...

Now a little bit on a different subject. I have had very bad luck with
vendors recently so I have to vent. I will vent about all of them at once,
so that it is fair to each of them.

Bought Stillen pads from Dynamic Racing and wanted to swap them today but
the rear pads are wrong.
http://www-personal.umich.edu/~gphilip/Wrong_pad.JPG Are these 1st gen rear
pads? I have a 2nd gen car.

Before that I bought R4-S pads from Porterfield and the front pads did not
fit. I was told it was due to necessary cost cutting.

Bought the AEM ECU from Altered Atmosphere while I was at the NG. They said
that they had the calibration file for my 550 ccm injectors. It took them
nine days to send that file to me (while Mike M. was getting ready to beat
records). Finally I got it. I compared it to the stock file that came on
the enclosed CD and it is identical except the fuel map values are
*EXACTLY* 25% lower. The ignition map is a little more aggressive than the
one that came stock, but now I have no idea where that map is from. I could
have made that kind of "calibration" myself in two minutes. And, actually,
I did, except mine was 26% lower. Also, the promised EGR block-off plates
are not ready yet.

The AEM ECU itself was also not without a problem. Injectors 1,2,6 are not
firing. No signal. Engine runs on three cylinders. The three injectors that
are firing are firing at non-stock crank angles and at double the
frequency. I will call AEM on Monday and they will probably tell me to send
the unit back to them or suggest some fix.
http://www-personal.umich.edu/~gphilip/Stock%20and%20AEM%20injectors%20firing.gif

Whew!

Philip


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Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2002 22:02:33 -0700
From: "Trevor James" <trevorlj@cox.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Just venting...

I've heard that the latest calibration on AEM's website fixes alot of
problems. The one that's on the CD is supposed to be a piece o' junk.

Trevor
96 R/T TT - 11.82@116.1 on 93 octane

- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Philip V. Glazatov" <gphilip@umich.edu>
To: <team3S@team3s.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2002 9:51 PM
Subject: Team3S: Just venting...


> Now a little bit on a different subject. I have had very bad luck with
> vendors recently so I have to vent. I will vent about all of them at once,
> so that it is fair to each of them.
>
> Bought Stillen pads from Dynamic Racing and wanted to swap them today but
> the rear pads are wrong.
> http://www-personal.umich.edu/~gphilip/Wrong_pad.JPG Are these 1st gen
rear
> pads? I have a 2nd gen car.
>
> Before that I bought R4-S pads from Porterfield and the front pads did not
> fit. I was told it was due to necessary cost cutting.
>
> Bought the AEM ECU from Altered Atmosphere while I was at the NG. They
said
> that they had the calibration file for my 550 ccm injectors. It took them
> nine days to send that file to me (while Mike M. was getting ready to beat
> records). Finally I got it. I compared it to the stock file that came on
> the enclosed CD and it is identical except the fuel map values are
> *EXACTLY* 25% lower. The ignition map is a little more aggressive than the
> one that came stock, but now I have no idea where that map is from. I
could
> have made that kind of "calibration" myself in two minutes. And, actually,
> I did, except mine was 26% lower. Also, the promised EGR block-off plates
> are not ready yet.
>
> The AEM ECU itself was also not without a problem. Injectors 1,2,6 are not
> firing. No signal. Engine runs on three cylinders. The three injectors
that
> are firing are firing at non-stock crank angles and at double the
> frequency. I will call AEM on Monday and they will probably tell me to
send
> the unit back to them or suggest some fix.
>
http://www-personal.umich.edu/~gphilip/Stock%20and%20AEM%20injectors%20firin
g.gif
>
> Whew!
>
> Philip
>
>
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Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2002 01:05:41 -0400
From: "Philip V. Glazatov" <gphilip@umich.edu>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Just venting...

Just ran a comparison routine on that calibration. It is identical to the
one that came on my CD. I believe my injector issue is a hardware issue
though.

Philip

At 01:02 8/26/2002, Trevor James wrote:
>I've heard that the latest calibration on AEM's website fixes alot of
>problems. The one that's on the CD is supposed to be a piece o' junk.


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Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2002 06:42:05 +0100
From: "Jim Matthews" <jim@the-matthews.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Just venting... (rear brake pads)

> Bought Stillen pads from Dynamic Racing and wanted to swap
> them today but the rear pads are wrong.
> http://www-personal.umich.edu/~gphilip/Wrong_pad.JPG
> Are these 1st gen rear pads? I have a 2nd gen car.

Yes, they look like the AP532 pads rather than the AP631 pads (to use
Porterfield's numbers).  As I mentioned in a recent post, my car is a
2nd gen but takes the pads you received, presumably because it was
manufactured before the switchover in mid '93?

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Jim Matthews - Yorkshire, England
mailto:jim@the-matthews.com
http://www.the-matthews.com

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Adjustable Active Suspension, Adjustable Exhaust System
K&N FIPK, A'PEXi Super AVC-R v.1 (1.0 bar @ 64% BADC)
A'PEXi Turbo Timer (30 sec), Blitz Super Blow-Off Valve
Magnecore spark plug wires, Optima Red Top 830 Battery
Redline synth fluids (trans= MT-90, xfer & diff= SPHvy)
Cryoed rotors, R4S pads, braided lines, red calipers
Michelin Pilot XGT-Z4 245/45ZR17, Top Speed: 171 mph
G-Tech Pro: 0-60 4.79 sec, 1/4 13.16 sec @ 113.9 mph
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Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2002 01:02:34 -0700
From: "dakken" <dougusmagnus@attbi.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Clutch booster problem..

Your pedal shouldn't get hard if the booster is working properly.  Check
your one-way valve on the vacuum line to the clutch booster.

I would try to take up the free play by adjusting your clutch pedal.  It is
easy to adjust.  Just loosen the lock nut and then adjust the pedal by
turning the adjustment screw.  Much easier to do than taking the clutch
master cylinder off and making adjustments that way.


Doug
92 Stealth RT TT


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Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2002 07:38:30 -0500
From: "Dennis and Anita Moore" <stealth@quixnet.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Anti-sieze on wheel studs - TESTED ;-)

I just want to "echo for emphasis" that anti-sieze is like Brylcreem: a
little dab'll do ya.

I've been following this thread closely as well, because in my old job
anti-sieze was a critical part of the assembly process.  We had a firm
conduct an exhaustive engineering analysis for us on what flavors to use,
how much to use, and the resulting torque values to use on the bolts.  I
remember it was a source of very passionate debate (kinda like here).

I'll try to find a copy of that report, and summarize it to the group.
However, I'll put up two big caveats:
1. The study was executed about 10 years ago, for a project I haven't work
on in 4 years, so I may not be able to get my hands on it.
2. The application was very special materials (kinda like Rich's
"unobtainium") in a highly corrosive environment, so the results may not be
directly applicable.

Dennis Moore
93 Stealth ES

PS to Rich: We have two of those reactor containment vessels on our site,
and you're right: watching them stretch the studs to spin the nuts down is a
remarkable process.  In our case, the did it by putting special ribs on the
ends of the studs, then grabbing the ribs and pulling a couple zillion
pounds of force on them.  That was one expensive wrench!  (I can see the
headlines now: "Feds pay millions for a wrench".  Stupid media...)

- ----- Original Message -----
[snip]
I thought that putting anti-seize on wheel studs was a great idea. So I
applied plenty of anti-seize and decided to torque using the torque wrench
[snip]


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Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2002 07:46:37 -0500
From: "merritt@cedar-rapids.net" <merritt@cedar-rapids.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Anti-sieze on wheel studs - TESTED ;-)

>
>PS to Rich: We have two of those reactor containment vessels on our site,
>and you're right: watching them stretch the studs to spin the nuts down is a
>remarkable process.  In our case, the did it by putting special ribs on the
>ends of the studs, then grabbing the ribs and pulling a couple zillion
>pounds of force on them.  That was one expensive wrench!  (I can see the
>headlines now: "Feds pay millions for a wrench".  Stupid media...)
>
Omigawd! Somebody remembers!
I've done lots of weird stuff in my life, and it's nice to have somebody confirm it so the group knows I'm not making it up or fantasizing.

Wish there were some old NASA graybeards on here, so we could swap lies about old Apollo missions and missile launches. There was the time the radars locked on the signal from a UFO coming over the pole and...oops. Wrong list for that kind of story.

Rich
>

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Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 12:25:50 -0400
From: "Bedrock" <bedrock@attbi.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Training Me 101: O2 Sensors

Sounds like a Wednesday job. thanks

Bob
White/Red 91 RT/TT, Original at 135,000+
- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Fay" <jfay@tssu.com>
To: "'Bedrock'" <bedrock@attbi.com>
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2002 8:51 AM
Subject: RE: Team3S: Training Me 101: O2 Sensors


> I have had the same problem with the TPS.  Remove the TPS and take a hair
> dryer and soften the glue seal on the face.  The seal can then be removed
> and there is a snap in plastic cover over a potentiometer.  This pot has
> four leads soldered to a cir board, the leads are the plug in pins for the
> connector.  You can resolder the pins as the origional solder has probably
> given up.  You will likely see a crack around one or all of the solder
> joints.  Snap the cover back inplace and cover the plate with black
silicon
> to keep dirt out and retain the stock appearance.  Mine has been OK for
over
> six months now.
>
> Jim
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-team3s@team3s.com [mailto:owner-team3s@team3s.com]On Behalf
> Of Bedrock
> Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 1:58 AM
> To: Team3S
> Subject: Re: Team3S: Training Me 101: O2 Sensors
>
>
> Thanks Ill get the book out and check for continuity this week. there is
no
> rust
>
>
> Bob
> White/Red 91 RT/TT, Original at 135,000+
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "cody" <overclck@satx.rr.com>
> To: "'Bedrock'" <bedrock@attbi.com>; "'Team3S'" <Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
> Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2002 10:49 PM
> Subject: RE: Team3S: Training Me 101: O2 Sensors
>
>
> > Nope, but sometimes the TPS can be faulty, yet read correct 98% of the
> > time...  You might also check wiring harnesses for rust, continuity,
> > etc...
> >
> > -Cody
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-team3s@team3s.com [mailto:owner-team3s@team3s.com] On Behalf
> > Of Bedrock
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 1:08 AM
> > To: Team3S
> > Subject: Re: Team3S: Training Me 101: O2 Sensors
> >
> > I have a quick question this thread might be able to answer. My check
> > engine
> > light comes on randomly but more in hot weather. If I goose the gas it
> > goes
> > out. I checked the codes and the only one is the throttle position
> > sensor. I
> > did a test on the tps according to the manual and it checks out ok. If I
> > clear the code it only comes back as a tps? Is there another sensor that
> > feeds or in my case sometimes not feeding a signal to the tps resulting
> > in a
> > code on it? Or do I really have a bad spot on my tps? Thanks.
> >
> > Bob
> > White/Red 91 RT/TT, Original at 135,000+
> >
> >
> >
> > ***  Info:  http://www.Team3S.com/Rules.htm  ***
> >
> >
> > ***  Info:  http://www.Team3S.com/Rules.htm  ***
> >
>
>
>
> ***  Info:  http://www.Team3S.com/Rules.htm  ***
>
>
>



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Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2002 09:07:20 -0400
From: "Furman, Russell" <RFurman2@MassMutual.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Police radars

Doug I missed this reply over the weekend.....   My car is a white 95
Pontiac GA it was dirty (hadn't been washed in about 2 weeks) No bra.  The
cruiser, that's a different story it shined like it had just come off the
showroom floor and it didn't have a bra on it either.

The troopers tell me with laser they don't aim at the body of the car but
instead the headlights or the front license plate (larger targets with good
reflectivity)

> -----Original Message-----
> From: dakken [SMTP:dougusmagnus@attbi.com]
> Sent: Friday, August 23, 2002 9:14 PM
> To: Furman, Russell; pvg1@daimlerchrysler.com; team3s@team3s.com
> Subject: Re: Team3S: Police radars
>
> > Laser pointed at me didn't pick up until I was basically on top of the
> damn
> > thing, however if pointed at another target (in this case a trooper's
> > cruiser) I spotted it almost 1.5 miles out.
>
> What kind of car were you driving?  What color was the car?  Was it
> recently
> waxed or did it have a layer of dust on it?  Did you have a bra?  How
> about
> your car, did it have a bra too?  =)
>
> Just curious.  I have read that all of those things will affect a IR
> radar's
> detection range.
>
>
> Doug
> 92 Stealth RT TT
>

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Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2002 09:27:12 US/Eastern
From: ratkins@cfl.rr.com
Subject: Re: Team3S: Anti-sieze on wheel studs - TESTED ;-)

"Wish there were some old NASA graybeards on here, . . . "
Rich

How do you know there aren't - maybe white doesn't count?
Older Bob
'99VR-4
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Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2002 08:28:06 -0500
From: "Willis, Charles E." <cewillis@TexasChildrensHospital.org>
Subject: RE: Team3S: anti-sieze on wheel studs - revisited.

IN MY EXPERIENCE, (five years four VR4's and 32 road course events) there is
absolutely no harm in torquing lug nuts on stock 17" 1st and 2nd gen wheels
and Volk TE37 17" wheels to 90 ftlbs WITH anti-seize compound.  IN MY
OPINION, if you tourque them to 80 ftlbs with antiseize, you should go back
and verify torque after driving for a while.

Chuck Willis

The previous discussion was concerning the reduction
in friction between the studs and lug nuts when using
an anti-sieze compound on the studs resulting in an
increase in the clamping force.

According to James at STL, when using their product
you reduce the torque spec for the lugs by 20 percent.

According to stealth316.com (thanks Jeff).  Lug nuts
should be torqued to 88-103 ft/lb.

So, IN MY OPINION lug nuts should be torqued to
80ft/lbs when using an anti-sieze compound.




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Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2002 09:53:14 -0400
From: "Mannah, Zinnah" <ZMANNAH@imf.org>
Subject: Team3S: Front Drive Shaft drop

Today my front drive shaft fell off while driving. The U join is stall in place but the shaft front end is damage. My questions are;

* Is there a after market vendor to replace the shaft
* Do I send it away to be repair
* Can I get one from a savage yard
* please do not tell me to contact my dealersh@#


Thanks

Zee

91 RT TT


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Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2002 13:58:22 -0000
From: "Jeff Lucius" <jlucius@stealth316.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Krankvent hp increase?

>> AIR COMPRESSES VERY EASILY UNLIKE FLUIDS ........
>> NOT A PROBLEM FOR EVEN A LOWER POWERED ENGINE LIKE A BIKE.

Not that easily! Try blowing into a hose attached to a boost guage or similar
device. Tell us how much pressure you can produce with your lungs. It always
requires force (and power) to compress air. Besides, liquid fluids do not
compress at all! I am not defending ETP's hp increase arguments (nor the
merits of twin cylinders moving together instead of oppositely), just
commenting on the statement concerning compression.

>> CREATING A VACUUM IN THE PAN LOWERS PRESSURE THROUGHOUT
>> BOTTOM END. WHY DOES THAT MAKE THE RINGS MORE EFECTIVE? 

>From what I understand, some of the sealing ability of rings occurs because
pressure in the cylinder gets behind the rings and forces them away from the
piston and onto the cylinder walls. I would *guess* that a greater pressure
differential across the rings (top to bottom) might improve this process.
Again, I am not defending ETP's statement's.

Jeff Lucius, http://www.stealth316.com/

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To: "xwing" <xwing@wi.rr.com>
Cc: <team3s@stealth-3000gt.st>
Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2002 2:15 PM
Subject: Re: Team3S: Re: Krankvent hp increase?



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Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2002 08:58:30 -0500
From: "Willis, Charles E." <cewillis@TexasChildrensHospital.org>
Subject: Team3S: RE: 3S-Racers: Track trailer and hitch help

try "Drawtight".  they pretty much make hitches for everything.



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Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2002 10:09:00 -0400
From: pvg1@daimlerchrysler.com
Subject: Re: Team3S: Anti-sieze on wheel studs - TESTED ;-)

Wait til Bob Forrest himself wakes up and kicks you old behinds for
off-topic conversations, rocket scientists you, LOL!
;-)

Philip

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Rich
- -------------
How do you know there aren't - maybe white doesn't count?
Older Bob
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Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2002 16:15:12 +0200
From: "Roger Gerl" <roger.gerl@bluewin.ch>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Anti-sieze on wheel studs - TESTED ;-)

I'm awake much earlier :) So, please be specific in what you are posting to
the list and declare a post OFF TOPIC if the topic starts to fluctuate.

Thanks for your help
Roger for the Admins

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From: <pvg1@daimlerchrysler.com>
To: <team3s@team3s.com>
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2002 4:09 PM
Subject: Re: Team3S: Anti-sieze on wheel studs - TESTED ;-)


>
> Wait til Bob Forrest himself wakes up and kicks you old behinds for
> off-topic conversations, rocket scientists you, LOL!
> ;-)
>
> Philip
>
> -------------------------------------------
>
> "Wish there were some old NASA graybeards on here, . . . "
> Rich
> -------------
> How do you know there aren't - maybe white doesn't count?
> Older Bob
> '99VR-4
> Kennedy Space Center, FL
>
>
>
>
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Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2002 07:29:18 -0700
From: "fastmax" <fastmax@cox.net>
Subject: Fw: Team3S: Trailer hitch

below is a copy of an old email which lists the manufacturer and part number of
the hitch.

        Jim Berry
======================================================
- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Berry" <fastmax@home.com>
To: <jczoom@iname.com>; "Steve Lasher RdAtl" <s_lasher@bellsouth.net>; "Stealth-3000GT" <team3s@stealth-3000gt.st>;
<opentracking@topica.com>
Sent: Friday, April 21, 2000 8:33 AM
Subject: Re: Team3S: Trailer hitch


> I have the same hitch on my car --- U-Haul sells and installs them. I think the
> price was $190 for the hitch and drawbar installed. They had trouble with the
> installation at first --- the hitch attaches where the tie down hooks are installed
> and the hooks must be removed first.
>
>     Jim Berry
> ==================================================
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: John T. Christian <jczoom@geocities.com>
> To: Steve Lasher RdAtl <s_lasher@bellsouth.net>; Stealth-3000GT <team3s@stealth-3000gt.st>;
> <opentracking@topica.com>
> Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2000 10:27 PM
> Subject: Team3S: Trailer hitch
>
>
> > Hi Steve,
> >
> > The trailer hitch for my Stealth TT came from ACE in Canonsburgh PA 412
> > 873-7900.
> >
> > It is a D'Lan 247222 with a price tag of $179.  You'll need a tongue
> > which is probably the D18001 for $25 and a 1&7/8 ball for $10.95.
> >
> > They hook to my trailer from Harbor Freight 800 444-3353 price of $170.
> >
> > You can see the trailer on my website below.
> >
> > Hope this helps.
> > John
> >
> > --
> > JCZoooM  93 TT 12.46@109Mph   Now with Porsche brakes & Supra rotors
> > Email---> JCZooM@iname.com
> > http://www.geocities.com/motorcity/flats/4538
> >
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Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2002 09:15:48 -0600
From: "Nate Metzler" <nmetzler@australearn.org>
Subject: Team3S: Radar Detectors - The old fashioned way

Just a follow-up on the radar detector discussion.  I've seen a similar set
up here in CO with the construction worker/radar cop with 10 of his buddies
waiting 1/2 mile down.  Except this was just an "end of the month we need to
hit our quotas" set-up.

Just wondering about the legalities of this....but my buddies and I thought
we'd foil their fun and drew up a huge 4' x 4' sign "Speed Trap Ahead - Less
than 45" and posted it 'bout 1/2 mile before the speed gun.  You've never
seen so many happy motorists waving on their way by...took the popo's nearly
an hour to figure out what the heck was going on and in the mean time they
didn't pull over one law-abiding motorist.   Even the female officer that
finally found the sign and ripped it down couldn't keep the laughter off her
face.  Course we were camped out in hidden observation point a ways away..
Again just wondering if that's something you can legally get by with.

Nate Metzler
Denver, CO
No Stealth/3S yet..

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Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2002 11:25:12 -0400
From: "Furman, Russell" <RFurman2@MassMutual.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Radar Detectors - The old fashioned way

Fortunately or Unfortunately (depending on your opinion), This is legal due
to the fact that are not entrapping you into to speeding they are simply
setting up a "sting" to get motorists. 

I personally feel it is a good idea CT loses a DOT worker every other year
due to people speeding through the work zones, nevermind the cops that are
working the job are also at high risk.

Russ F
CT

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nate Metzler [SMTP:nmetzler@australearn.org]
> Sent: Monday, August 26, 2002 11:16 AM
> To: Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st
> Subject: Team3S: Radar Detectors - The old fashioned way
>
> Just wondering about the legalities of this....but my buddies and I
> thought
> we'd foil their fun and drew up a huge 4' x 4' sign "Speed Trap Ahead -
> Less
> than 45" and posted it 'bout 1/2 mile before the speed gun.  You've never
> seen so many happy motorists waving on their way by...took the popo's
> nearly
> an hour to figure out what the heck was going on and in the mean time they
> didn't pull over one law-abiding motorist.   Even the female officer that
> finally found the sign and ripped it down couldn't keep the laughter off
> her
> face.  Course we were camped out in hidden observation point a ways away..
> Again just wondering if that's something you can legally get by with.
>
> Nate Metzler
> Denver, CO
> No Stealth/3S

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Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2002 08:30:59 -0700
From: "Chris Winkley" <Chris_Winkley@adp.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Police radars

Folks...

While we're wandering into a non-technical, non-3KGT/Stealth topic, I'll
add two observations:

1. The Rocky Mountain Radar "jamming" device has been proven to NOT work
on top of which they have a clause in their advertisement that limits
their liability to paying the fine for tickets up to 10 mph over the
speed limit. For many (most?) of us, that would be worthless. Here in
Oregon, the State Highway Patrol doesn't even bother with us unless
we're driving over 15 beyond the speed limit (I'm speaking of freeways
here, not residential surface streets).

2. NONE of these devices do a BIT of good with laser ticketing outside
of informing you that you are about to receive a ticket. I have a
Valentine One and have received excellent notification that I have just
been hit by lidar. The ticketing officers have been "kind" enough to
show me exactly how they use the guns, they literally have crosshairs
like a rifle scope. There is no mistaking which car they are targeting.
I also hoped to win in court because the officer that wrote me the most
recent lidar ticket was not the one who was on the end of the gun, but
nope, they both showed up for court, even after two setovers (your best
bet for beating a ticket). Naturally, being "public servants" they're
unionized, which means they get paid overtime for showing up for court
hearings, which they rarely miss. On top of which, speeding tickets are
easy revenue generators for the state, city, or county, much less work
than busting meth labs, and very little danger of getting shot at. Why
track down criminals when you can get paid for pulling over speeders?

Looking forward...Chris

- -----Original Message-----
From: anscray [mailto:anscray@attbi.com]
Sent: Friday, August 23, 2002 5:45 PM
To: glenn vrfour; team3s@team3s.com
Subject: Re: Team3S: Police radars


   This fake construction site crap must be a fad..  Here in
Jacksonville
and St.Augustine Florida, FHP is doing the same thing..  This is of
course
also due to a couple FHP officers being hit while handing out tickets..

  Im hearing about some sort of stealthing device on the radio quite a
bit..
It sends out all kinds of signals to confuse the radar gun.  Cant
remember
the name, but supposedly they will pay the ticket if you get hit while
using
their product..  The real question is will they pay the insurance
increase?

  My opinion is that they hand out enough tickets w/o creating more
trickery
to snuff the occasional 80mph in a 70mph zone..  It just seems that they
could be doing something much more productive..

Scott
94 VR4



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Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2002 08:32:08 -0700 (PDT)
From: Roger Ludwig <yiotta@yahoo.com>
Subject: Team3S: Clear out the DOT, the darwin way....

You think its a good idea they lose a worker every
year or two? Kinda like a darwin thing?
"I personally feel it is a good idea CT loses a DOT
worker every other year..."

Or do you mean:
You thinks its a good idea, <--(comma)--> BECAUSE DOT
loses a worker every year or two?
hehehe
Roger L
F15DOC

- --- "Furman, Russell" <RFurman2@MassMutual.com> wrote:
> Fortunately or Unfortunately (depending on your
> opinion), This is legal due
> to the fact that are not entrapping you into to
> speeding they are simply
> setting up a "sting" to get motorists. 
>
> I personally feel it is a good idea CT loses a DOT
> worker every other year
> due to people speeding through the work zones,
> nevermind the cops that are
> working the job are also at high risk.
>
> Russ F
> CT
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Nate Metzler [SMTP:nmetzler@australearn.org]
> > Sent: Monday, August 26, 2002 11:16 AM
> > To: Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st
> > Subject: Team3S: Radar Detectors - The old
> fashioned way
> >
> > Just wondering about the legalities of this....but
> my buddies and I
> > thought
> > we'd foil their fun and drew up a huge 4' x 4'
> sign "Speed Trap Ahead -
> > Less
> > than 45" and posted it 'bout 1/2 mile before the
> speed gun.  You've never
> > seen so many happy motorists waving on their way
> by...took the popo's
> > nearly
> > an hour to figure out what the heck was going on
> and in the mean time they
> > didn't pull over one law-abiding motorist.   Even
> the female officer that
> > finally found the sign and ripped it down couldn't
> keep the laughter off
> > her
> > face.  Course we were camped out in hidden
> observation point a ways away..
> > Again just wondering if that's something you can
> legally get by with.
> >
> > Nate Metzler
> > Denver, CO
> > No Stealth/3S
>
>
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Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2002 11:50:55 -0400
From: "Rodriguez, Elpidio   x35617d1" <x35617@exmail.usma.army.mil>
Subject: Team3S: I Hate NY......roads

My car's suspension was perfectly fine until a weekend of driving on NY
roadways. I wonder who the bright engineers are who thought putting drainage
grates that are like 3 inches below the asphalt level in the middle of the
road was a good idea. Everytime you go over on of those suckers, it feels
like you just went over a big pothole at 70mph.  And it's very hard to drive
around them unless you're on the "slow-people" side of the road. Now my
driver's side suspension has a nice little "thump" noise everytime I go over
a bump. Any idea what it might be?

Update on my smoke situation:
I've driven the car like 500 miles since I first noticed large quantities of
smoke out the tailpipes.  At that time, it was already like 1/4 quart low on
oil. I filled it back up and it seems to be holding there for now. I don't
see the large smoke plumes any more but there's still oil burning somewhere
cuz I can smell it everytime I stop at a light. After it idles for more than
1 minute, a little whitish/bluish smoke can be seen. It has new short block
and new valve with new seals so I doubt it can be either. No oil in the
y-pipe (haven't checked downpipe) and turbos still boost to max stock
setting. Suggestions?

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Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2002 12:25:53 -0400
From: "Darren Schilberg" <dschilberg@pobox.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Trailer hitch

John Christian's website below was blown away one day and this is the
new webpage.

http://www.geocities.com/jczoom_619/

- --Flash!

- -----Original Message-----
From: fastmax
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2002 10:29
To: team3S@stealth-3000gt.st; 3sracers@speedtoys.com

below is a copy of an old email which lists the manufacturer and part
number of the hitch.

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: John T. Christian <jczoom@geocities.com>
> To: Stealth-3000GT <team3s@stealth-3000gt.st>;
> Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2000 10:27 PM
>
> > http://www.geocities.com/motorcity/flats/4538


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Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2002 18:23:17 +0200
From: "Roger Gerl" <roger.gerl@bluewin.ch>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Clear out the DOT, the darwin way.... ADMIN MSG

Please go on with this non-technical discussion OFFLINE and email each other
privately ?

Thanks for helping us keeing the quality up !
Roger for the Admins


- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Roger Ludwig" <yiotta@yahoo.com>
To: <team3s@team3s.com>
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2002 5:32 PM
Subject: Team3S: Clear out the DOT, the darwin way....


> You think its a good idea they lose a worker every
> year or two? Kinda like a darwin thing?
> "I personally feel it is a good idea CT loses a DOT
> worker every other year..."
>
> Or do you mean:
> You thinks its a good idea, <--(comma)--> BECAUSE DOT
> loses a worker every year or two?
> hehehe
> Roger L
> F15DOC
>
> --- "Furman, Russell" <RFurman2@MassMutual.com> wrote:
> > Fortunately or Unfortunately (depending on your
> > opinion), This is legal due
> > to the fact that are not entrapping you into to
> > speeding they are simply
> > setting up a "sting" to get motorists.
> >
> > I personally feel it is a good idea CT loses a DOT
> > worker every other year
> > due to people speeding through the work zones,
> > nevermind the cops that are
> > working the job are also at high risk.
> >
> > Russ F
> > CT
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Nate Metzler [SMTP:nmetzler@australearn.org]
> > > Sent: Monday, August 26, 2002 11:16 AM
> > > To: Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st
> > > Subject: Team3S: Radar Detectors - The old
> > fashioned way
> > >
> > > Just wondering about the legalities of this....but
> > my buddies and I
> > > thought
> > > we'd foil their fun and drew up a huge 4' x 4'
> > sign "Speed Trap Ahead -
> > > Less
> > > than 45" and posted it 'bout 1/2 mile before the
> > speed gun.  You've never
> > > seen so many happy motorists waving on their way
> > by...took the popo's
> > > nearly
> > > an hour to figure out what the heck was going on
> > and in the mean time they
> > > didn't pull over one law-abiding motorist.   Even
> > the female officer that
> > > finally found the sign and ripped it down couldn't
> > keep the laughter off
> > > her
> > > face.  Course we were camped out in hidden
> > observation point a ways away..
> > > Again just wondering if that's something you can
> > legally get by with.
> > >
> > > Nate Metzler
> > > Denver, CO
> > > No Stealth/3S
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Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2002 11:27:00 -0500
From: "Willis, Charles E." <cewillis@TexasChildrensHospital.org>
Subject: Team3S: Please help me find the antiroll sensor in CAPS!

Dear Friends,

I was unable to find the anti-roll sensor for my ECS in CAPS, although it is
clearly shown in my service manual under the steering column cowling.  Can
somebody direct me to the right place?

Chuck Willis



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Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2002 12:37:58 -0700
From: "fastmax" <fastmax@cox.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Please help me find the antiroll sensor in CAPS!

Chuck

Try 54-610 ---- that's 5 pages deep and has a bunch of sensors.
I'm not sure which one your looking for but it looks like a good
starting point.

        Jim berry
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Subject: Team3S: Please help me find the antiroll sensor in CAPS!


> Dear Friends,
>
> I was unable to find the anti-roll sensor for my ECS in CAPS, although it is
> clearly shown in my service manual under the steering column cowling.  Can
> somebody direct me to the right place?
>
> Chuck Willis
>
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