Team3S: 3000GT & Stealth  Wednesday, August 21 2002  Volume 01 : Number 931




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Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 03:09:25 -0400
From: "Bob Forrest" <bf@bobforrest.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: SL ECS Struts

- ----- Original Message -----
From: "cody" <overclck@satx.rr.com>
> I have changed springs on my car myself...  I actually did it in the
school parking lot when I was in college the first time...  It's quite
simple, and you can rent a spring compressor at just about any parts
store...  In the rear, you will be the only one that will modify those spots
like Bob is talking about, 'cause no shop will take that liability...  I
didn't modify mine until about a year after I did the springs, and wore out
a pair of tires due to this...  I will mention though..  It's not that hard
a job... I might add that since then I have also taken the springs off to
repaint and refinish them as well, and put them back together...  I have
also installed Ground Control's on a
 friends car with a similar suspension too...  None of it is that bad... The
bolt that they broke off...  I have NEVER heard of that happening...
> -Cody
- --------------------------->

Well I guess you didn't check the archives about my "Eibach Nightmare".  A
list member warned me about it and made the diagram for me and the list.  I
warned my dealer (yes, a Dealer took the job without hesitation).  Even
after I warned them NOT to, they DID trash the bolts (and I had to wait an
extra day to get my car back while they ordered new ones).  And they DID
elongate the holes as I asked (it's the ONLY way to reach spec alignment).
They didn't want to weld the washers, though, and to prove to me that it was
unnecessary and that they wouldn't slip, they drove around the block.  And
they slipped.  So they welded them!  A dealer!  It was the right fix for the
job, and they knew it. This is the ONLY way to put on the Eibach ProKit on
an NT.  Eibach knows it too, since I called them about it and asked them to
put it in their instructions.  They said they had heard of it "a few times
before" (which means dozens) and they would consider adding it to the
instructions.  It hasn't happened.

If you want to do this job yourself, it's not a big deal to rent a spring
compressor.  But you're still going to have to find a shop to do the spot
welds for you.  Unless you want to drive your car around with a 2-degree
walleyed camber...  Fun steering, too.  ;-)

Best,

Forrest


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Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 00:20:24 -0700
From: "dakken" <dougusmagnus@attbi.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: SL ECS Struts

You can buy spring compressors from http://www.harborfreight.com/ .

They are $10 a pair.  I would recommend buying 2 pairs since our springs are
a little large and a 3rd compressor comes in handy.

I have used spring compressors from Harbor Freight on my 3S and my Celica.
They are cheap but they do the job.


Doug
92 Stealth RT TT


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Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 07:35:13 -0400
From: "SWC" <swc@centurytel.net>
Subject: Team3S: Re:

Dealers are scum.  Did he also try to get you to trade it in on a new car?

Ever hear of a Junkyard?

Do you know exactly what parts you need for a rebuild?

Did I mention that dealers are scum?

Steve C.
92 RT TT

- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Aaron Kealey" <aaron_kealey@hotmail.com>
To: <team3s@stealth-3000gt.st>
Sent: Monday, August 19, 2002 9:43 PM


>
> I cant believe this!
>
> I have a 1993 Stealth Twin Turbo
> I blew a leak somewhere in the rear-wheel steering.
> (You don't want to try turning 275/40/17's around a parking lot, with no
> power steering. Trust me  )
>
> I take it into the Chrysler/Jeep/Eagle dealership this morning and leave
it
> with them to "diagnose" the problem.
>
> The reply....
>
> "Sorry, your car is un-servicable"
> (It actually says that in thier computer!)
> Then he goes on to tell me i'm "flogging a dead horse"
>
> The service guy is saying that Dodge doesnt have the parts i need.
Anywhere.
> He even did me the "favour" of looking for aftermarket
> manufacturers/rebuilders for the rear rack&pinion, but there are none.
>
> Now i am simply going to bypass the rear steering. I looked all over for
> anything related to doing this and i cant find a thing. Please if someone
> has done this let me know. I have a service manual, but it doesnt show how
> the fluid is routed and i cant tell supply from return lines.
>
> Also there is no Mitsubishi in Canada, so no help there.
>
> What the hell am i going to do?!
> Aaron
>
> (I posted on 3SI.org as well)
>
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Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 12:23:29 +0000
From: sport2evr@att.net
Subject: Team3S: Head light adjustments

I have recently purchased a '94 3000GTSL
Can someone clue me in on how to adjust the head
lights.??  I have already ordered a service manual, it
hasn't arrived yet.
Thanks
Joe '943kGTSL

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Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 08:15:47 -0500
From: "Willis, Charles E." <cewillis@TexasChildrensHospital.org>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Radio code

$90 to get the code is a load of crap.  You need the code every time the
battery is disconnected, which you need to do before your remove the ECU.
You can read the serial number on the radio head unit by removing the
garnish around the radio.  Then you take that serial number with proof of
ownership (like the title or registration) to a REPUTABLE dealer and they
will look up the code in their book.  There shouldn't be any charge for
that.  My son and I have done this three times for free.

Chuck Willis

- -----Original Message-----
From: Anthony Tse [mailto:tse1631@yahoo.com]
Sent: Monday, August 19, 2002 10:24 PM
To: team3s@team3s.com
Subject: Team3S: Radio code


Hi: I have a 92 VR4. I have a question about the ECU &
the stock radio. Under what condition the car will
reset the radio and ask for the 4 digit secure code ?
Because I don't have the code. I have disconnected the
battery cable once when I install the FIPK. Lucky the
radio didn't ask for the code.




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Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 07:37:31 -0700
From: "Riyan Mynuddin" <riyan@HotPOP.com>
Subject: Team3S: RE: four wheel steering

Aaron-

Two things:

1) check out www.car-part.com and look for it there. That's a big network of
recyclers with a thorough search engine.

2) no luck, then wait on me. I may be parting out my car, which is identical
to yours. I'm going to do a diagnostic soon and see if my car is worth
keeping. My 4-wheel steering still works wonders.

Good luck,

Riyan Mynuddin
1993 stealth rt/tt

my ride:
www.advantedgecomputing.com/stllow/stealth.htm

- -----Original Message-----
From: owner-team3s@team3s.com [mailto:owner-team3s@team3s.com]On Behalf
Of Aaron Kealey
Sent: Monday, August 19, 2002 6:43 PM
To: team3s@stealth-3000gt.st
Subject:



I cant believe this!

I have a 1993 Stealth Twin Turbo
I blew a leak somewhere in the rear-wheel steering.
(You don't want to try turning 275/40/17's around a parking lot, with no
power steering. Trust me  )

I take it into the Chrysler/Jeep/Eagle dealership this morning and leave it
with them to "diagnose" the problem.

The reply....

"Sorry, your car is un-servicable"
(It actually says that in thier computer!)
Then he goes on to tell me i'm "flogging a dead horse"

The service guy is saying that Dodge doesnt have the parts i need. Anywhere.
He even did me the "favour" of looking for aftermarket
manufacturers/rebuilders for the rear rack&pinion, but there are none.

Now i am simply going to bypass the rear steering. I looked all over for
anything related to doing this and i cant find a thing. Please if someone
has done this let me know. I have a service manual, but it doesnt show how
the fluid is routed and i cant tell supply from return lines.

Also there is no Mitsubishi in Canada, so no help there.

What the hell am i going to do?!
Aaron

(I posted on 3SI.org as well)

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Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 08:25:32 -0700 (PDT)
From: glenn vrfour <vr4glenn@yahoo.com>
Subject: $550 plugs and wires <was> RE: Team3S: Radio code

That's about $400 for labor.  At $80/hr = 5 hours??

$550 = 60K parts + svc manuals + few tools + Pizza &
Beer (for helpers)

Glenn
- --- Alex Pedenko <pedenkoa@msu.edu> wrote:
> $550 for plugs and wires?! Wow!
>


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Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 10:35:41 -0500
From: "cody" <overclck@satx.rr.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: SL ECS Struts

I did check the archives actually Bob...  After I did all my own work,
including elongation of the holes, it was 2 months before I actually
welded that little washer in place...  Everything was fine...  So long
as they know how to torque something down properly, movement shouldn't
be a problem...  Like I said...  For 2 months, I never had any
suspension problems without the washers being welded in place...  I even
had it aligned twice (lifetime)...  No movement in the rear whatsoever
over those couple of months...  I suggest finding another shop, as it
seems your dealer doesn't have a clue...  This is a simple, one day job
(installing springs and elongating hole for any DIY...

- -Cody



Well I guess you didn't check the archives about my "Eibach Nightmare".
A
list member warned me about it and made the diagram for me and the list.
I
warned my dealer (yes, a Dealer took the job without hesitation).  Even
after I warned them NOT to, they DID trash the bolts (and I had to wait
an
extra day to get my car back while they ordered new ones).  And they DID
elongate the holes as I asked (it's the ONLY way to reach spec
alignment).
They didn't want to weld the washers, though, and to prove to me that it
was
unnecessary and that they wouldn't slip, they drove around the block.
And
they slipped.  So they welded them!  A dealer!  It was the right fix for
the
job, and they knew it. This is the ONLY way to put on the Eibach ProKit
on
an NT.  Eibach knows it too, since I called them about it and asked them
to
put it in their instructions.  They said they had heard of it "a few
times
before" (which means dozens) and they would consider adding it to the
instructions.  It hasn't happened.

If you want to do this job yourself, it's not a big deal to rent a
spring
compressor.  But you're still going to have to find a shop to do the
spot
welds for you.  Unless you want to drive your car around with a 2-degree
walleyed camber...  Fun steering, too.  ;-)

Best,

Forrest


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Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 14:20:36 -0400
From: "Bob Forrest" <bf@bobforrest.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: SL ECS Struts (Eibach custom installation)

- ----- Original Message -----
From: "cody" <overclck@satx.rr.com>
> I did check the archives actually Bob...  After I did all my own work,
including elongation of the holes, it was 2 months before I actually welded
that little washer in place...  Everything was fine...  So long as they know
how to torque something down properly, movement shouldn't be a problem...
Like I said...  For 2 months, I never had any suspension problems without
the washers being welded in place...  I even had it aligned twice
(lifetime)...  No movement in the rear whatsoever
 over those couple of months...  I suggest finding another shop, as it seems
your dealer doesn't have a clue...  This is a simple, one day job
(installing springs and elongating hole for any DIY...
> -Cody
- ------------------------------->

Well you've got that right - the tech who did the work *didn't* have a clue,
but the tech boss wrote it up and did as I asked.  He was embarrassed as
hell that they had screwed up the bolts, since he had warned his techs about
it in writing.  (And he had seen it happen before).  But I guess the tech
that worked on it didn't check the worksheet, and so the eccentric bolt
heads were stripped off.  If you do it the right way, like you did, there's
no problem.  But if you bring it in to *any* shop, it's a good bet that they
won't use the right tool if they are unaware that the hidden bolt heads are
for adjustment only, and then those $3 bolts will have to be replaced.

Again, you're right that it *shouldn't* be a problem to leave the washers
unwelded for a while, but why take chances?  The tech *did* torque both the
front and rear properly (I made sure of it by asking them to check it when I
came for the car) and yet just two quick hard right-hand turns up hills were
all it took to make them move, although slightly.  You're just lucky that
yours didn't move, but that won't be the case for everyone.  It's important
that folks be aware of it if they attempt this install, and to know that
they *should* get the washers welded.

SNAFUs happen even in the best shops.  This dealer has done lots of my work,
with no problems, both before and since that incident.  They took $ OFF the
bill because of my inconvenience, they paid for the replacement bolts (and
Fedex), and still gave me my 25% Team3S discount, even though it was a loss
for them.  That's what I'd consider a responsible dealer, and still one of
the "Good Guys" in my book...  We agree that this is a simple install, but
with a potential for complex pitfalls.  Twenty successful DIY or even
dealer-installs aren't important - what's important is that other owners
know of the possible problems when doing this custom installation.  We want
to establish what is the *best* way to do this, not the *acceptable* way.
"What to do" and "what to avoid" are what the Team3S list is all about.

Best,
Forrest


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Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 12:06:06 -0700 (PDT)
From: Anthony Tse <tse1631@yahoo.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Radio code

Ya! I'll go home & send you their name & address
tonight. We should warn other people as well as those
money sucking dealers.

Anthony

- --- Alex Pedenko <pedenkoa@msu.edu> wrote:
> Hey Anthony -
>
> Do you want this guy to make my "bad guys" page? If
> you do, send
> me their name.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Alex.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-team3s@team3s.com
> [mailto:owner-team3s@team3s.com] On Behalf
> Of Anthony Tse
> Sent: Monday, August 19, 2002 10:55 PM
> To: team3s@team3s.com
> Subject: Team3S: Radio code
>
> Thanks for the info. guys. I will try another
> dealer.
> The one I went to is at Colma,Daly City. That dealer
> is one of the worst expenience I have. I have them
> change my spark plugs & wire only. Nothing else.
> They
> charge me $550 for the job. I think it only needed
> for
> 60000 miles so I painfully pay that price. After the
> job done, next day I found out 1 bolt on top of the
> intake plenum was chipped off. 2 of them looks kind
> of
> bad. The plastic caseing on top of the fuel rail
> broken because the screw got too tight. They
> replaced
> the bolt and said they order the wrong part for the
> plastic caseing. The plastic caseing come with the
> relay and it it too expensive too replace. What the
> #^%^%@ I argue with the service manager why they
> only
> replaced the bolt not the caseing, he said we do it
> as
> a coutesy, we are not sure that was broken before.
> Our
> techs are professional and won't break customer's
> car.
> I won't go there again!!! Of course I won't pay them
> $90 for the radio code.
>     Anthony
>
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Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 12:15:26 -0700
From: "fastmax" <fastmax@cox.net>
Subject: Team3S: 720 injectors

I have a set of near new injectors that have a Denso part number
195500-0860 and a lite blue top. I was told they were 720 cc but
I had them flow tested [ possible test problems ] and got a flow
number of 396 cc well below the 720 number. They were static
tested on a flow tester with 43 psi. Does anyone know if the number
is correct for 720 injectors.

        Jim Berry



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Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 22:37:57 -0000
From: "Jeff Lucius" <jlucius@stealth316.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: 720 injectors

The Denso 720 cc/min injectors I have bought had the following part number. I
never had them flow tested.

195500-0830

Jeff Lucius, http://www.stealth316.com/

- ----- Original Message -----
From: "fastmax" <fastmax@cox.net>
To: <team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 1:15 PM
Subject: Team3S: 720 injectors

I have a set of near new injectors that have a Denso part number
195500-0860 and a lite blue top. I was told they were 720 cc but
I had them flow tested [ possible test problems ] and got a flow
number of 396 cc well below the 720 number. They were static
tested on a flow tester with 43 psi. Does anyone know if the number
is correct for 720 injectors.

        Jim Berry




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Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 18:57:17 -0400
From: Joe Gonsowski <twinturbo@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S: 720 injectors

I also have Denso 720 cc/min injectors.

PN 19550-830

RC Engineering flowed all six between 664 and 669 cc/min and explained this
as typical (large variance on the 720s).  More details here:
http://joeg.mi3si.org/Injector_Flow.html

Joe G.
- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeff Lucius" <jlucius@stealth316.com>
To: <Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 6:37 PM
Subject: Re: Team3S: 720 injectors


> The Denso 720 cc/min injectors I have bought had the following part
number. I
> never had them flow tested.
>
> 195500-0830
>
> Jeff Lucius, http://www.stealth316.com/
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "fastmax" <fastmax@cox.net>
> To: <team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 1:15 PM
> Subject: Team3S: 720 injectors
>
> I have a set of near new injectors that have a Denso part number
> 195500-0860 and a lite blue top. I was told they were 720 cc but
> I had them flow tested [ possible test problems ] and got a flow
> number of 396 cc well below the 720 number. They were static
> tested on a flow tester with 43 psi. Does anyone know if the number
> is correct for 720 injectors.
>
>         Jim Berry
>
>
>
>
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Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2002 01:25:46 +0200
From: "Roger Gerl" <roger.gerl@bluewin.ch>
Subject: Re: Team3S: 720 injectors

The ones I'm selling directly from Japan are the same PN 19550-830. I flow
tested them here locally and they flew between 718 and 732cc/min

Roger
93'3000GT TT
www.rtec.ch


- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Joe Gonsowski" <twinturbo@comcast.net>
To: "Jeff Lucius" <jlucius@stealth316.com>; <Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 12:57 AM
Subject: Re: Team3S: 720 injectors


> I also have Denso 720 cc/min injectors.
>
> PN 19550-830
>
> RC Engineering flowed all six between 664 and 669 cc/min and explained
this
> as typical (large variance on the 720s).  More details here:
> http://joeg.mi3si.org/Injector_Flow.html
>
> Joe G.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jeff Lucius" <jlucius@stealth316.com>
> To: <Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 6:37 PM
> Subject: Re: Team3S: 720 injectors
>
>
> > The Denso 720 cc/min injectors I have bought had the following part
> number. I
> > never had them flow tested.
> >
> > 195500-0830
> >
> > Jeff Lucius, http://www.stealth316.com/
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "fastmax" <fastmax@cox.net>
> > To: <team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 1:15 PM
> > Subject: Team3S: 720 injectors
> >
> > I have a set of near new injectors that have a Denso part number
> > 195500-0860 and a lite blue top. I was told they were 720 cc but
> > I had them flow tested [ possible test problems ] and got a flow
> > number of 396 cc well below the 720 number. They were static
> > tested on a flow tester with 43 psi. Does anyone know if the number
> > is correct for 720 injectors.
> >
> >         Jim Berry
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 19:53:43 -0500
From: "Black, Dave (ICT)" <dblai@allstate.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Radio code

Please make sure to fill out the "Rate a Dealer" feature on my site to help
others by sharing your experience - good or bad.

http://www.daveblack.net/asp/DealerSurvey.asp

Dave 95VR4
http://www.daveblack.net


Thanks for the info. guys. I will try another dealer.
The one I went to is at Colma,Daly City. That dealer
is one of the worst expenience I have. I have them
change my spark plugs & wire only. Nothing else. They
charge me $550 for the job. I think it only needed for
60000 miles so I painfully pay that price. After the
job done, next day I found out 1 bolt on top of the
intake plenum was chipped off. 2 of them looks kind of
bad. The plastic caseing on top of the fuel rail
broken because the screw got too tight. They replaced
the bolt and said they order the wrong part for the
plastic caseing. The plastic caseing come with the
relay and it it too expensive too replace. What the
#^%^%@ I argue with the service manager why they only
replaced the bolt not the caseing, he said we do it as
a coutesy, we are not sure that was broken before. Our
techs are professional and won't break customer's car.
I won't go there again!!! Of course I won't pay them
$90 for the radio code.
    Anthony

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Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 17:59:17 -0700
From: "fastmax" <fastmax@cox.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S: 720 injectors

Thanks to all respondees [ sorry I had to make up a word ] --- turns
out I lied about the number on mine --- mine are the 195500-8030
rather than the 8060 number I posted. Sooo, they should be 720's
and I need to find out why they were tested at about half that number.
They didn't charge for the test so I'm only out information, I guess a
call to RC engineering may resolve the issue.

        Jim Berry
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- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Damon Rachell" <damonr@MEFAS.com>


> I found this site with a pic.  Trying to find others.
> Damon
> http://www.twinturbo.us/720s.html
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: fastmax [mailto:fastmax@cox.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 12:15 PM
> To: team3S@stealth-3000gt.st
> Subject: Team3S: 720 injectors
>
>
> I have a set of near new injectors that have a Denso part number
> 195500-0860 and a lite blue top. I was told they were 720 cc but
> I had them flow tested [ possible test problems ] and got a flow
> number of 396 cc well below the 720 number. They were static
> tested on a flow tester with 43 psi. Does anyone know if the number
> is correct for 720 injectors.
>
>         Jim Berry
>
>
>
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Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 19:08:07 -0700
From: "dakken" <dougusmagnus@attbi.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: 720 injectors

They probably just need cleaning.  RC will probably tell you the same.  I
know my 450's were flowing around 300 before I had them cleaned.


Doug
92 Stealth RT TT


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Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2002 00:11:20 -0400
From: "Rodriguez, Elpidio   x35617d1" <x35617@exmail.usma.army.mil>
Subject: Team3S: Alarm..Kinda long

HEllo folks! Well, I just found (in a very embarassing way) that my car has
an alarm. I'm assuming that it is part of the anti-theft package that comes
with the car cuz I haven't seen any aftermarket alarm parts anywhere.
Well,when I bought the car, all I got was the ignition key, no alarm remote
so I thought my car didn't have an alarm. Tonight, I was at the Palisades
Mall in NY and  i'm talking to this 2 chicks that were just getting there
when I was getting into my car. I opened the door as usual and the green
"security" light came on. I then unlocked the passenger door for my buddy to
get in. When he opened the door, the alarm went off. It started honking and
flashing the lights like crazy. I was like "what the f..."?Since I don't
have a remote and it had never gone off before, All I could do was
disconnect the battery while the 2 girlies pretty much pissed their pants
laughing.  What did I do that set off the alarm? Did I accidently set it?
How do you set it anyways and where can I get a remote for it? Thanks a lot
fellas.


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Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 21:23:44 -0700 (PDT)
From: Anthony Tse <tse1631@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Alarm..Kinda long

You don't need a remote. Just use youe key & put it in
the door's keyhole and turn it. Alarm will shut off.
    Anthony
- --- "Rodriguez, Elpidio   x35617d1"
<x35617@exmail.usma.army.mil> wrote:
> HEllo folks! Well, I just found (in a very
> embarassing way) that my car has
> an alarm. I'm assuming that it is part of the
> anti-theft package that comes
> with the car cuz I haven't seen any aftermarket
> alarm parts anywhere.
> Well,when I bought the car, all I got was the
> ignition key, no alarm remote
> so I thought my car didn't have an alarm. Tonight, I
> was at the Palisades
> Mall in NY and  i'm talking to this 2 chicks that
> were just getting there
> when I was getting into my car. I opened the door as
> usual and the green
> "security" light came on. I then unlocked the
> passenger door for my buddy to
> get in. When he opened the door, the alarm went off.
> It started honking and
> flashing the lights like crazy. I was like "what the
> f..."?Since I don't
> have a remote and it had never gone off before, All
> I could do was
> disconnect the battery while the 2 girlies pretty
> much pissed their pants
> laughing.  What did I do that set off the alarm? Did
> I accidently set it?
> How do you set it anyways and where can I get a
> remote for it? Thanks a lot
> fellas.
>
>
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Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2002 00:24:35 EDT
From: M3000GTSL84@aol.com
Subject: Re: Team3S: Alarm..Kinda long

The alarm is set whenever u
A-lock the door with the remote
B-lock it with the key
C-lock it using the button on the door when it is open.

To disarm it u must stick the key in the door and twist. . the alarm will
shut off.  Now if the alarm goes off, it shuts off after 3 minutes of noise
but u just cant start the car because the starter is disabled, u need the
chip in the key to send the signal again. This is where sticking it in the
door comes in handy.

The alarm will go off if the doors are locked, and some1 opens it manually.
Lets say you lock the car with the windows open. If some1 reaches in and
pulls open the lock, or presses the button on the door. . .the alarm will go
off. Same goes if they reach for the hood release or trunk release. Ive done
it by accident.

U shouldnt have had to disconnect the battery. . .like i said it goes off
after 3 minutes and all u must do it stick the key in the door. The info is
in your owners manual if u have 1. 

U can get a key fob from any dealer. . .or order it online.

mike
97 SL

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Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 21:26:25 -0700
From: "fastmax" <fastmax@cox.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Alarm..Kinda long

The dealer sells remotes for way too much money --- $60 or more. I've seen
a thread for $25 remotes but don't remember the location --- do a search of the
archives. it needs to be programed to match your system --- it's a bit af a PITA,
some of the trim around the drivers side rear speaker needs to be removed.
Unlocking the doors with a key should disable the alarm.

        Jim Berry
==================================================
- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Rodriguez, Elpidio x35617d1" <x35617@exmail.usma.army.mil>
To: <team3s@team3s.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 9:11 PM
Subject: Team3S: Alarm..Kinda long


> HEllo folks! Well, I just found (in a very embarassing way) that my car has
> an alarm. I'm assuming that it is part of the anti-theft package that comes
> with the car cuz I haven't seen any aftermarket alarm parts anywhere.
> Well,when I bought the car, all I got was the ignition key, no alarm remote
> so I thought my car didn't have an alarm. Tonight, I was at the Palisades
> Mall in NY and  i'm talking to this 2 chicks that were just getting there
> when I was getting into my car. I opened the door as usual and the green
> "security" light came on. I then unlocked the passenger door for my buddy to
> get in. When he opened the door, the alarm went off. It started honking and
> flashing the lights like crazy. I was like "what the f..."?Since I don't
> have a remote and it had never gone off before, All I could do was
> disconnect the battery while the 2 girlies pretty much pissed their pants
> laughing.  What did I do that set off the alarm? Did I accidently set it?
> How do you set it anyways and where can I get a remote for it? Thanks a lot
> fellas.
>
>
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>



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Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 22:26:38 -0700
From: "Robert Koch" <eK2mfg@foxinternet.com>
Subject: Team3S: front axles...any options for a budget?

I just slapped in my springs and and have found that the wheels...or axles
rather make a clunking noise when I turn both under power as well as just
coasting. I am positive it is nothing rubbing and everything is torque and
tight...even triple checked my lugs and that's exactly what it sounds like.
So I went to the Norco site and got sticker shock...705 for each axle
assy....I am not sure if it may be the inners so the 350 option might not
give me my answer.....It sounds like a bad wheel bearing flopping back and
forth...don't see any evidence of the struts being the issue....99% sure its
not that. So when under power or not under power do the axles sound like
this.....could it be that they were going bad and letting them pop in and
out of the sockets a few times during installation may have caused the
1410.00 fix? I really don't want to go with a wrecking yard for a "TEMP" fix
for 10-20k more on the odometer....Everything was meticulously placed on a
white sheet when the struts were swapped out with the intrax springs...is
this what the settling sounds like? I would think not...there is however a
slight diameter diff between intrax and stock springs....could the spring be
making this sound under load? its only like 1/4" slop...but the thing is
compressed in there and now the car sitting on it...everything is rock
solid...I doubt its the springs....I am thinking I just ate a 1410.00 set of
axles.

any opinions or thoughts....or experiences with these intrax springs on the
first test drive......damn my car is low now :)


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Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 22:33:46 -0700
From: "fastmax" <fastmax@cox.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S: front axles...any options for a budget?

I would say it's not likely you damaged the axles --- when trouble shooting
always go back to what you did last. In this case the spring install --- my
guess [ although I haven't done Intrax ] is that you've somehow installed
the bearing on top of the spring/strut incorrectly. That bearing is used to
allow the strut to rotate smoothly when turning, if incorrectly installed you
will get some noise from the springs under cornering.

PS --- don't forget to get an alignment.

        Jim Berry
===================================================

 
- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Koch" <eK2mfg@foxinternet.com>
To: <team3s@team3s.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 10:26 PM
Subject: Team3S: front axles...any options for a budget?


> I just slapped in my springs and and have found that the wheels...or axles
> rather make a clunking noise when I turn both under power as well as just
> coasting. I am positive it is nothing rubbing and everything is torque and
> tight...even triple checked my lugs and that's exactly what it sounds like.
> So I went to the Norco site and got sticker shock...705 for each axle
> assy....I am not sure if it may be the inners so the 350 option might not
> give me my answer.....It sounds like a bad wheel bearing flopping back and
> forth...don't see any evidence of the struts being the issue....99% sure its
> not that. So when under power or not under power do the axles sound like
> this.....could it be that they were going bad and letting them pop in and
> out of the sockets a few times during installation may have caused the
> 1410.00 fix? I really don't want to go with a wrecking yard for a "TEMP" fix
> for 10-20k more on the odometer....Everything was meticulously placed on a
> white sheet when the struts were swapped out with the intrax springs...is
> this what the settling sounds like? I would think not...there is however a
> slight diameter diff between intrax and stock springs....could the spring be
> making this sound under load? its only like 1/4" slop...but the thing is
> compressed in there and now the car sitting on it...everything is rock
> solid...I doubt its the springs....I am thinking I just ate a 1410.00 set of
> axles.




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Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2002 01:58:46 -0500
From: "Alex Pedenko" <pedenkoa@msu.edu>
Subject: Team3S: Clutch drag

Hey all,

I'm trying to figure out why I'm getting so much clutch drag. I checked
the pedal travel and found it out of spec and fixed it, but after a
while the problem came back. I completely replaced the fluid with
Motul600. Still - no effect. The weird thing is that it seems to get
worse as the clutch heats up. When I first start the car, I can shift
just fine. After a few stoplights, it starts to get harder and harder to
get it into first. If I do a hard(er) launch early on, while it still
shifts normal, it gets much worse right off the bat. I haven't noticed
any wet spots inside, so if the slave cylinder is leaking, it's not
noticeable. I haven't had a chance to see if the fluid level in the
reservoir has dropped to see if there's a leak somewhere in the system.
Other than that, what can it be and what can I do?

BTW - the clutch is an RPS stage 2. The shop that put it in did a s**tty
job and never adjusted the pedal to the changes from the stock clutch to
the rps.

Thanks,

Alex.
'95 VR4

www.kolosy.com


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