Team3S: 3000GT & Stealth Wednesday, August 14 2002
Volume 01 : Number
925
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Date:
Tue, 13 Aug 2002 16:16:36 -0700
From: "fastmax" <
fastmax@cox.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S:
Antisieze on wheel studs
- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeff
Lucius" <
jlucius@stealth316.com>
>
>> ... after a run, I had several galled studs/nuts
>
> If I
remember the terms and mechanics correctly, galling is the result of
>
fretting, or the wear of two surfaces moving against each other.
>
> How can galling occur on wheel bolts and nuts if they are making tight
and
> proper contact with the wheel and hub? I don't think there is *any*
relative
> movement between wheel, wheel bolts, wheel nuts, and hub when
these parts are
> properly fitted and installed. Am I wrong on this or
missing something?
I would assume the galling occurs as the nut is being
undone ---- if it was torqued
and then somehow the heat/racing increased the
stretch on the bolt galling could
occur as soon as it starts to move --- in
most track applications the work is being
done with hand tools so it's
unlikely that the studs are crossthreaded initially which
is the most common
problem with studs.I think it was Merritt that had problems as
a result of
retightening when hot and breaking studs --- some form of galling is the
only
thing I can think of.
Antisieze works for me --- I haven't broken a stud
and more importantly none of my
nuts fell
off. Sorry about that, I couldn't help
myself.
==================================================
>
On a similar note, others complain about corrosion on the wheel studs and
> bolts. What type of corrosion occurs during a single track
event?
I think those are different responses ---- stuck rotors as a
result of road salt and
other such goo, no corrosion would occur as a result
of a track event.
Jim
Berry
=====================================================
> -----
Original Message -----
> From: "Zobel, Kurt" <
Kurt.Zobel@ca.com>
>
> One
man's experience/opinion..
>
> In my two dozen track outings, I've
only encountered a problem when wheels are
> hot.
> My old
procedure was to break the lugnuts with full weight on the ground, then
>
jack and undo, and similar, pre-tighten with zero weight, then torque when
> fully on the ground.
>
> After several times doing this
and noticing extereme difficulty in breaking
> some lugnuts loose in hot
weather and/or soon after a run, I had several
> galled studs/nuts. I
used a smidgeon of anti-sieze, and changed my procedure.
> I jack up 50%
before any breaking attempts, then break loose, then jack fully
> and
undo. Put on wheels, pre-torque, down 50%, fully torque, then unload
jack.
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Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 18:07:13
-0700
From: "dakken" <
dougusmagnus@attbi.com>
Subject:
Team3S: 3S National Gathering
Does anyone have 1/4 mile times from the
National Gathering? I'm wondering
if anyone ran a 10 or even set a new
record. Looking at the pics you would
think that one of those cars with
monster turbos would do it. Unless they
were just "show"
cars.
Did GT Pro deliver on their 1000 hp promise?
A 1000hp car should
run in the low 9s.
Man I wish I wasn't working that weekend. Maybe
next year.
Doug
92 Stealth RT TT
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Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 21:03:27
-0400
From: "Philip V. Glazatov" <
gphilip@umich.edu>
Subject: Re:
3S-Racers: Re: Team3S: 3S National Gathering - some pix
Aaaahh! I
remember you. You were the guy who told me to go slow because you
would look
bad as an instructor if I slide off the track on the parade lap,
LOL!!!
Nice air ducts, BTW.
http://www-personal.umich.edu/~gphilip/NG-bits-n-pieces/P1010101.JPGPhilip
At
18:36 8/13/2002, Dave and Becky Trent wrote:
>Philip,
>
>The
car in question was mine. I was the guy who was riding in your
right
>seat saying things like "slow down, were still on the parade lap",
and "pull
>in, you just got black flagged". My car wasn't there
because I rode up with
>Chuck and Diana. The clutch was slipping
badly on my car a couple days
>prior to the gathering so I left it at the
hotel Sunday. I put the ducts on
>at the same time I installed the
big reds so I can't be sure of how
>effective they
are.
>
>Regards,
>DaveT/92TT/Frightened instructor
mod
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Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 20:09:24
-0500
From: "cody" <
overclck@satx.rr.com>
Subject: RE:
Team3S: 3S National Gathering
Mike from AAM ran a 10.90 at 133...
No Nitrous quickest time ever...
- -Cody
- -----Original
Message-----
From:
owner-team3s@team3s.com
[mailto:owner-team3s@team3s.com] On Behalf
Of dakken
Sent: Tuesday, August
13, 2002 8:07 PM
To: Team3s
Subject: Team3S: 3S National
Gathering
Does anyone have 1/4 mile times from the National
Gathering? I'm
wondering
if anyone ran a 10 or even set a new
record. Looking at the pics you
would
think that one of those cars
with monster turbos would do it. Unless
they
were just "show"
cars.
Did GT Pro deliver on their 1000 hp promise?
A 1000hp car should
run in the low 9s.
Man I wish I wasn't working that weekend. Maybe
next year.
Doug
92 Stealth RT TT
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Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 20:17:00
-0500
From: "Dave and Becky Trent" <
bdtrent@netzero.net>
Subject: Re:
3S-Racers: Re: Team3S: 3S National Gathering - some pix
John,
I
got my big reds from Stoddard Porsche in Ohio. It seems like they
were
around $800 for the pair, but I'm not sure. It probably pays to
shop
around. Just ask for a quote on a set of 993 turbo front
calipers. You
will need to make, or have made, a set of adapter
brackets. I've got a cad
print if you need it. I sent it to
someone a while back who said they were
going to put it on their web site,
but I can't recall who it was.
Regards,
DaveT/92TT
- -----
Original Message -----
From: "John Sheehan" <
Johns@KYSO.com>
To: "Dave and Becky
Trent" <
bdtrent@netzero.net>
Sent: Tuesday,
August 13, 2002 6:26 PM
Subject: Re: 3S-Racers: Re: Team3S: 3S National
Gathering - some pix
> Did you get a good price on the Big Reds?
Where? Thanx, John
>
> Dave and Becky Trent wrote:
>
>
> Philip,
> >
> > The car in question was mine. I was
the guy who was riding in your
right
> > seat saying things like
"slow down, were still on the parade lap", and
"pull
> > in, you
just got black flagged". My car wasn't there because I rode
up
with
> > Chuck and Diana. The clutch was slipping badly on
my car a couple days
> > prior to the gathering so I left it at the
hotel Sunday. I put the
ducts on
> > at the same time I
installed the big reds so I can't be sure of how
> > effective they
are.
> >
> > Regards,
> > DaveT/92TT/Frightened
instructor mod
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From:
pvg1@daimlerchrysler.com> >
To:
3sracers@speedtoys.com ; David
Margrave ;
team3S@team3s.com> >
Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 6:17 AM
> > Subject: Re: 3S-Racers: Re:
Team3S: 3S National Gathering - some pix
> >
> >
> >
I have not met the owner of "the green car" (the 1st gen TT with
brake
air
> > scoops). I was sure I would meet him at the road
course but he did not
> > show. Who was that? The car was a greet 1s
gen TT with Big Reds (and
> > oversized rotors, I think), air ducts
going to them, and RallyArt
sticker
> > on the fender.
>
>
> > Philip
> >
> >
> > David Margrave
wrote:
> >
> >>I like the custom intake plenum on the one
car, and the under-fairing
> >>scoops on the green car. Did
the owner of the green car indicate how
> >>
> >
well
> >
> >>the fresh air scoops performed?
>
>>
> >>
> >
> >
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Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 22:23:10
-0400
From: Joe Gonsowski <
twinturbo@comcast.net>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: 3S National Gathering
> Does anyone have 1/4 mile times
from the National Gathering?
http://www.3si.org/vbb/showthread.php?s=442ea078d9dea0be8f96debb13db151b&threadid=95468
Just
posted complete round by round action to 3si.org
Joe
G.
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Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 20:39:35
-0700
From: Damon Rachell <
damonr@mefas.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S:
3S National Gathering
Those curious about the GTPro drag car (DragPro),
it's not ready to run
yet. Enough tuning was done to get it to run
under it's own power,
idle, and maybe get some decent high load power.
No mid load and low
load maps were derived for the AEM ECU in the time they
had prior to the
gathering, therefore, no launching ability nor shifting
ability. When
things are worked out (shortly), I'm sure you'll hear
about it. Lord
knows, I want to hear about it, if not see
it.
Damon
Joe Gonsowski wrote:
>>Does anyone have
1/4 mile times from the National Gathering?
>>
>
>
http://www.3si.org/vbb/showthread.php?s=442ea078d9dea0be8f96debb13db151b&thr>
eadid=95468
>
> Just posted complete round by round action to
3si.org
>
> Joe G.
>
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Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 21:38:37
-0700 (PDT)
From: Roger Ludwig <
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Subject: Team3S:
Greddy Type S BOV Install - Help
Installing the Greddy Type S...
No
instructions worth anything....
Stealth 316 website is a little
help....
There are 3 vacuum "outs" on the Type S, there was
only one on
the Stock....
What goes where?
I am stuck...
Roger
L
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Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 00:44:53
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From: "Dan Johnson" <
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Subject: Fw:
Team3S: Request procedure to replace thermostat
I don't have an official
step-by-step procedure for the thermostat, but it
is simple, and I've done it
so I'll tell you what I did.
Preparations -Have replacement coolant
mixture
-Have a scraper in case the old gasket won't come
off
-Responsibly collect old coolant, which flows out of the
engine when you pull
the hoses
Remove the Y-Pipe
Unplug and removed the MAS (not
necessary, but gives a little more room)
Remove the air intake hose that
connects to the MAS
Remove the lower radiator hose (coolant will begin
flowing out)
Remove the four bolts of the thermostat housing (they are
different sizes so
label them)
Remove the cover for the thermostat
housing
Remove the old thermostat
Install the new thermostat, there is
jiggle valve that needs to be aligned
with the mark on the top of the
housing.
Reverse removal procedures, when reinstalling the air intake hoses
there are
markings on the tops that need to be aligned. And, remember
to reconnect
the MAS wiring.
Best Regards,
Dan Johnson
-
----- Original Message -----
From: "P N Sankarshanan" <
yoss@aracnet.com>
To: "Team3S" <
team3s@team3s.com>
Sent: Tuesday,
August 13, 2002 11:00 AM
Subject: Team3S: Request procedure to replace
thermostat
>
Greetings:
>
> I'm
looking for a step-by-step procedure for replacing
the
thermostat
> on a
2nd gen VR4. Any pointers is greatly appreciated.
>
>
Thanks!
> -sankar
>
>
--
>
****************************************************************************
***
>
Picard: "Why her?"
> Worf: "Sir, I believe she was the intended target of
the abduction."
> Riker: "Why would they want to take a Federation
hostage? Their fight
doesn't
> involve us."
>
Worf: "It does now."
> --Picard, Worf, and Riker, "The High Ground",
Stardate
43
>
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Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 01:01:28
-0400
From: "Chris McFarland" <
cm1994@qx.net>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Greddy
Type S BOV Install - Help
Everything you want to know about the Greddy
Type S is explained here.
http://www.dsmtalk.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=51052Looking
at the CAD drawing in that link, the vac. hose connects to the
upper
nipple. The other one is left open. There are only two
vacuum ports.
Chris McFarland
93 Stealth R/T TT
- -----Original
Message-----
Installing the Greddy Type S...
No instructions worth
anything....
Stealth 316 website is a little help....
There are 3 vacuum
"outs" on the Type S, there was
only one on the Stock....
What goes
where?
I am stuck...
Roger
L
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Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 22:02:46
-0700
From: Ian Marks <
ianmarks@2xtreme.net>
Subject:
Team3S: Detailing secret, well maybe not so secret. . .
Just 'clayed' my
car and I can't believe how incredible the finish is now.
Mother's has a clay
kit available now - I found it at Kragen's auto parts.
Highly
recommended!
The finish is almost glass smooth!
http://www.mothers.com/products/products.htmlI
guess some of you probably know about other products but I just wanted to
let
the group know. . .
Ian Marks
'94 RT-turbo with a renewed pearl
white finish
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Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 07:00:42
-0700
From: "fastmax" <
fastmax@cox.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S:
Request procedure to replace thermostat
The gasket on mine was a rubber
seal that went around the edge of
the thermostat housing --- not a flat
gasket as you would have for the
exhaust manifold for example. FWIW --- I
mentioned this before but
I thought it worth repeating. The Great Satin
wanted $50 or $60 for
the thermostat, I found what appears to be an exact
duplicate at an
auto parts store for about $17 --- they also had a generic
POS one
for $9 which should be avoided unless you're selling the car to
someone you don't like.
Jim Berry
================================
- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Dan Johnson" <
hiimdan74@yahoo.com>
> I
don't have an official step-by-step procedure for the thermostat, but it
>
is simple, and I've done it so I'll tell you what I did.
>
>
Preparations -Have replacement coolant
mixture
>
-Have a scraper in case the old gasket won't come
off
>
-Responsibly collect old coolant, which flows out of the
> engine when you
pull the hoses
>
>
> Remove the Y-Pipe
> Unplug and
removed the MAS (not necessary, but gives a little more room)
> Remove the
air intake hose that connects to the MAS
> Remove the lower radiator hose
(coolant will begin flowing out)
> Remove the four bolts of the thermostat
housing (they are different sizes so
> label them)
> Remove the
cover for the thermostat housing
> Remove the old thermostat
>
Install the new thermostat, there is jiggle valve that needs to be
aligned
> with the mark on the top of the housing.
> Reverse removal
procedures, when reinstalling the air intake hoses there are
> markings on
the tops that need to be aligned. And, remember to reconnect
> the
MAS wiring.
>
> Best Regards,
> Dan Johnson
>
>
----- Original Message -----
> From: "P N Sankarshanan" <
yoss@aracnet.com>
> To: "Team3S"
<
team3s@team3s.com>
> Sent:
Tuesday, August 13, 2002 11:00 AM
> Subject: Team3S: Request procedure to
replace thermostat
>
>
> > Greetings:
>
>
> > I'm looking
for a step-by-step procedure for replacing the
> thermostat
>
> on a 2nd gen VR4. Any
pointers is greatly appreciated.
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
-sankar
> >
> > --
> >
>
****************************************************************************
>
***
> > Picard: "Why her?"
> > Worf: "Sir, I believe she was
the intended target of the abduction."
> > Riker: "Why would they want
to take a Federation hostage? Their fight
> doesn't
>
> involve us."
> > Worf: "It does now."
> >
--Picard, Worf, and Riker, "The High Ground", Stardate 43
> >
>
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Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 07:21:15
-0700 (PDT)
From: glenn vrfour <
vr4glenn@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: Request procedure to replace thermostat
You must have some
dealer!
here is price from mitsupartsdirect.com
MD174234
THERMOSTA list=$ 21.18 sale=$ 16.94
call them
and ask for team3s discount and your price
will be even
less.
Glenn
- --- fastmax <
fastmax@cox.net> wrote:
> The gasket
on mine was a rubber seal that went
> around the edge of
> the
thermostat housing --- not a flat gasket as you
> would have for
the
> exhaust manifold for example. FWIW --- I mentioned
> this
before but
> I thought it worth repeating. The Great Satin wanted
>
$50 or $60 for
> the thermostat, I found what appears to be an
exact
> duplicate at an
> auto parts store for about $17 --- they
also had a
> generic POS one
> for $9 which should be avoided unless
you're selling
> the car to
> someone you don't like.
>
> Jim Berry
>
================================
> ----- Original Message -----
>
From: "Dan Johnson" <
hiimdan74@yahoo.com>
>
>
> > I don't have an official step-by-step procedure
> for the
thermostat, but it
> > is simple, and I've done it so I'll tell you
what
> I did.
> >
> > Preparations -Have replacement
coolant mixture
>
>
-Have a scraper in case the
> old gasket won't come off
>
>
-Responsibly collect old
> coolant, which flows out of the
> >
engine when you pull the hoses
> >
> >
> > Remove
the Y-Pipe
> > Unplug and removed the MAS (not necessary, but
>
gives a little more room)
> > Remove the air intake hose that connects
to the
> MAS
> > Remove the lower radiator hose (coolant will
begin
> flowing out)
> > Remove the four bolts of the thermostat
housing
> (they are different sizes so
> > label them)
>
> Remove the cover for the thermostat housing
> > Remove the old
thermostat
> > Install the new thermostat, there is jiggle
valve
> that needs to be aligned
> > with the mark on the top of
the housing.
> > Reverse removal procedures, when reinstalling
the
> air intake hoses there are
> > markings on the tops that
need to be aligned.
> And, remember to reconnect
> > the MAS
wiring.
> >
> > Best Regards,
> > Dan
Johnson
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> >
From: "P N Sankarshanan" <
yoss@aracnet.com>
> > To:
"Team3S" <
team3s@team3s.com>
> > Sent:
Tuesday, August 13, 2002 11:00 AM
> > Subject: Team3S: Request
procedure to replace
> thermostat
> >
> >
> >
> Greetings:
> > >
> >
> I'm looking for a
step-by-step procedure
> for replacing the
> > thermostat
>
> > on a 2nd gen
VR4. Any pointers is
> greatly appreciated.
> >
>
> > > Thanks!
> > > -sankar
> >
>
> > > --
> > >
>
>
>
****************************************************************************
>
> ***
> > > Picard: "Why her?"
> > > Worf: "Sir, I
believe she was the intended
> target of the abduction."
> > >
Riker: "Why would they want to take a Federation
> hostage? Their
fight
> > doesn't
> > > involve us."
>
> > Worf: "It does now."
> > > --Picard, Worf, and Riker, "The
High Ground",
> Stardate 43
> > >
>
>
>
****************************************************************************
>
> ***
> > >
> > > *** Info:
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> > >
> >
> >
> >
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Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 08:18:20
-0700 (PDT)
From: Roger Ludwig <
yiotta@yahoo.com>
Subject: Team3S:
Greddy Type S - Catching Gear Linkage?
Installed my Greddy Type S BOV
last night...
I think I got it in right (the car runs and I can hear
it
"blow off").... so I assume I got it on right.
I have a hard time, near
impossible, getting it into
1st, 3rd and 5th gears.
Somewhere I had
heard about it interfering with the
gear linkage. It was a thread I read a
long time ago.
Does anyone know about this and how to reposition
the
Greddy Type S so it doesn't interfere. I looked at it
very briefly
this morning at my office and can't see
where it is catching...
Also,
there are two ports (vacuum) but we only have
one line. The other one
attaches to what? Or does it
stay open to the atmosphere?
Sorry guys,
I know many of you have probably heard
this a million times, but I could use
your guidance.
Thanx!
Roger
L
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Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 08:23:32
-0700 (PDT)
From: Roger Ludwig <
yiotta@yahoo.com>
Subject: Team3S:
BOV
I think I found where it is catching, in fact I am
pretty sure I
can see it.
It appears that I need to elevate the MAS and the K&N
a
little so the linkage can slide under the BOV. It is
barely catching the end
of it.
Did everyone make a custom bracket for the K&N?
What about the
second vacuum nipple?
Thanx
Roger
L
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Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 08:28:03
-0700
From: "fastmax" <
fastmax@cox.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S:
Request procedure to replace thermostat
I looked that up after I posted
and found the same thing --- I wonder if
Rockville Mitsu is selling a non
Mitsu part. Or maybe I was quoted wrong
at my dealer ??? I just called
my dealer and was quoted $39.40 this time,
still a pretty good
markup.
Jim
Berry
=============================================
- ----- Original
Message -----
From: "glenn vrfour" <
vr4glenn@yahoo.com>
To: <
Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
Sent:
Wednesday, August 14, 2002 7:21 AM
Subject: Re: Team3S: Request procedure to
replace thermostat
> You must have some dealer!
>
>
here is price from mitsupartsdirect.com
>
> MD174234
THERMOSTA list=$ 21.18 sale=$ 16.94
>
>
call them and ask for team3s discount and your price
> will be even
less.
>
> Glenn
>
> --- fastmax <
fastmax@cox.net> wrote:
> > The
gasket on mine was a rubber seal that went
> > around the edge
of
> > the thermostat housing --- not a flat gasket as you
> >
would have for the
> > exhaust manifold for example. FWIW --- I
mentioned
> > this before but
> > I thought it worth
repeating. The Great Satin wanted
> > $50 or $60 for
> > the
thermostat, I found what appears to be an exact
> > duplicate at
an
> > auto parts store for about $17 --- they also had a
> >
generic POS one
> > for $9 which should be avoided unless you're
selling
> > the car to
> > someone you don't like.
>
>
> > Jim
Berry
> > ================================
> > ----- Original
Message -----
> > From: "Dan Johnson" <
hiimdan74@yahoo.com>
> >
> >
> > > I don't have an official step-by-step
procedure
> > for the thermostat, but it
> > > is simple,
and I've done it so I'll tell you what
> > I did.
> > >
> > > Preparations -Have replacement coolant mixture
> >
>
-Have a scraper in case the
> > old gasket won't come off
> >
>
-Responsibly collect old
> > coolant, which flows out of the
>
> > engine when you pull the hoses
> > >
> > >
> > > Remove the Y-Pipe
> > > Unplug and removed the
MAS (not necessary, but
> > gives a little more room)
> > >
Remove the air intake hose that connects to the
> > MAS
> >
> Remove the lower radiator hose (coolant will begin
> > flowing
out)
> > > Remove the four bolts of the thermostat housing
>
> (they are different sizes so
> > > label them)
> >
> Remove the cover for the thermostat housing
> > > Remove the
old thermostat
> > > Install the new thermostat, there is jiggle
valve
> > that needs to be aligned
> > > with the mark on
the top of the housing.
> > > Reverse removal procedures, when
reinstalling the
> > air intake hoses there are
> > >
markings on the tops that need to be aligned.
> > And, remember to
reconnect
> > > the MAS wiring.
> > >
> > >
Best Regards,
> > > Dan Johnson
> > >
> > >
----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "P N Sankarshanan" <
yoss@aracnet.com>
> > > To:
"Team3S" <
team3s@team3s.com>
> > >
Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 11:00 AM
> > > Subject: Team3S:
Request procedure to replace
> > thermostat
> > >
>
> >
> > > > Greetings:
> > > >
> >
> > I'm looking for a
step-by-step procedure
> > for replacing the
> > >
thermostat
> > >
> on a 2nd gen VR4. Any
pointers is
> > greatly appreciated.
> > > >
>
> > > Thanks!
> > > > -sankar
> > >
>
> > > > --
> > > >
> > >
>
>
>
****************************************************************************
>
> > ***
> > > > Picard: "Why her?"
> > > >
Worf: "Sir, I believe she was the intended
> > target of the
abduction."
> > > > Riker: "Why would they want to take a
Federation
> > hostage? Their fight
> > >
doesn't
> > > > involve us."
> > > >
Worf: "It does now."
> > > > --Picard, Worf, and Riker, "The High
Ground",
> > Stardate 43
> > > >
> >
>
> >
>
****************************************************************************
>
> > ***
> > > >
> > > > ***
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> > >
> > >
> >
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Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 11:39:40
-0400
From: "Darren Schilberg" <
dschilberg@pobox.com>
Subject: RE:
Team3S: Greddy Type S - Catching Gear Linkage?
What car do you have
again? The linkage is different from a first gen
VR-4 to a second gen
VR-4 and that might be enough to make the
difference. I think you can
search the archives of where people zip-tie
the BOV up and out of the
way.
- --Flash!
1995 VR-4
- -----Original Message-----
From:
Roger Ludwig
Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 11:18 AM
Somewhere I had
heard about it interfering with the
gear linkage. It was a thread I read a
long time ago.
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Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 10:44:48
-0500
From: "Black, Dave (ICT)" <
dblai@allstate.com>
Subject: RE:
Team3S: Greddy Type S - Catching Gear Linkage?
I had a similar problem on
my 95VR4 after installing the Greddy BOV. I
ziptied the BOV up and out
of the way as best I could but I still had a
little problem occasionally
getting into 5th gear. I noticed that the
corner of the counterweight
on the linkage was still catching up on the BOV.
So I decided to use my
Dremel tool with a small grinding wheel to grind down
the corner of the
counterweight enough so that it's out of the way. I can
provide a pic
tomorrow if you'd like. Send me a private email and let
me
know.
Dave 95VR4
http://www.daveblack.netSomewhere
I had heard about it interfering with the
gear linkage. It was a thread I
read a long time ago.
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Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 08:53:30
-0700 (PDT)
From: glenn vrfour <
vr4glenn@yahoo.com>
Subject: List
Prices [was] Re: Team3S: Request procedure to replace thermostat
I found
the same thing with the fuel filter I
purchased Locally (Korum Mitsubishi,
Puyallup WA).
The 'List' price the local dealer charged me was about
20
percent higher that the Rockville 'list' price.
Hey anyone want to have
fun?? call your local dealer
and get a price for the thermostat
(MD174234). E-mail
me privately with the price and dealership, and I
will
post the results. I think we will find that 'List' is
just a
made up number.
Glenn
- --- fastmax <
fastmax@cox.net> wrote:
> I looked
that up after I posted and found the same
> thing --- I wonder if
>
Rockville Mitsu is selling a non Mitsu part. Or
> maybe I was quoted
wrong
> at my dealer ??? I just called my dealer and was
>
quoted $39.40 this time,
> still a pretty good markup.
>
> Jim Berry
>
=============================================
> ----- Original Message
-----
> From: "glenn vrfour" <
vr4glenn@yahoo.com>
> To: <
Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
>
Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 7:21 AM
> Subject: Re: Team3S: Request
procedure to replace
> thermostat
>
>
> > You must
have some dealer!
> >
> > here is price from
mitsupartsdirect.com
> >
> > MD174234
THERMOSTA list=$ 21.18 sale=$ 16.94
> >
> > call them and ask for team3s discount and your
>
price
> > will be even less.
> >
> > Glenn
>
>
> > --- fastmax <
fastmax@cox.net> wrote:
> > >
The gasket on mine was a rubber seal that went
> > > around the edge
of
> > > the thermostat housing --- not a flat gasket as
>
you
> > > would have for the
> > > exhaust manifold for
example. FWIW --- I
> mentioned
> > > this before but
>
> > I thought it worth repeating. The Great Satin
> wanted
>
> > $50 or $60 for
> > > the thermostat, I found what appears
to be an
> exact
> > > duplicate at an
> > > auto
parts store for about $17 --- they also had
> a
> > > generic
POS one
> > > for $9 which should be avoided unless you're
>
selling
> > > the car to
> > > someone you don't
like.
> > >
> >
> Jim Berry
> > >
================================
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Dan Johnson" <
hiimdan74@yahoo.com>
> > >
> > >
> > > > I don't have an official
step-by-step
> procedure
> > > for the thermostat, but
it
> > > > is simple, and I've done it so I'll tell you
>
what
> > > I did.
> > > >
> > > >
Preparations -Have replacement coolant mixture
> > >
>
-Have a scraper in case
> the
> > > old gasket won't come
off
> > >
>
-Responsibly collect old
> > > coolant, which flows out of
the
> > > > engine when you pull the hoses
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Remove the Y-Pipe
> >
> > Unplug and removed the MAS (not necessary, but
> > > gives
a little more room)
> > > > Remove the air intake hose that
connects to
> the
> > > MAS
> > > > Remove the
lower radiator hose (coolant will
> begin
> > > flowing
out)
> > > > Remove the four bolts of the thermostat
>
housing
> > > (they are different sizes so
> > > >
label them)
> > > > Remove the cover for the thermostat
housing
> > > > Remove the old thermostat
> > > >
Install the new thermostat, there is jiggle
> valve
> > > that
needs to be aligned
> > > > with the mark on the top of the
housing.
> > > > Reverse removal procedures, when
reinstalling
> the
> > > air intake hoses there are
>
> > > markings on the tops that need to be aligned.
> > >
And, remember to reconnect
> > > > the MAS wiring.
> >
> >
> > > > Best Regards,
> > > > Dan
Johnson
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message
-----
> > > > From: "P N Sankarshanan" <
yoss@aracnet.com>
> > > >
To: "Team3S" <
team3s@team3s.com>
> > > >
Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 11:00 AM
> > > > Subject: Team3S:
Request procedure to replace
> > > thermostat
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Greetings:
> >
> > >
> > > >
> I'm looking for a
step-by-step
> procedure
> > > for replacing the
> >
> > thermostat
> > > >
> on a 2nd gen VR4. Any
pointers is
> > > greatly appreciated.
> > > >
>
> > > > > Thanks!
> > > > >
-sankar
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > >
>
>
>
****************************************************************************
>
> > > ***
> > > > > Picard: "Why her?"
> >
> > > Worf: "Sir, I believe she was the intended
> > >
target of the abduction."
> > > > > Riker: "Why would they
want to take a
> Federation
> > > hostage? Their
fight
> > > > doesn't
> > > > >
involve us."
> > > > > Worf: "It does now."
> > >
> > --Picard, Worf, and Riker, "The High
> Ground",
> >
> Stardate 43
> > > > >
> > > >
> >
>
>
>
>
****************************************************************************
>
> > > ***
> > > > >
> > > > >
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> ***
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> >
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Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 12:17:04
-0400
From: "Zobel, Kurt" <
Kurt.Zobel@ca.com>
Subject: RE:
Team3S: 3S National Gathering
Drags again at Fontana,CA this weekend,
$20.
Anyone want to play?
Dragpro or not, think I'll try
to make it one day at least.
Kurt
- -----Original
Message-----
From: Damon Rachell [mailto:damonr@mefas.com]
Sent: Tuesday,
August 13, 2002 8:40 PM
To: Joe Gonsowski
Cc: dakken; Team3s
Subject:
Re: Team3S: 3S National Gathering
Those curious about the GTPro drag
car (DragPro), it's not ready to run
yet. Enough tuning was done to
get it to run under it's own power,
idle, and maybe get some decent high
load power. No mid load and low
load maps were derived for the AEM ECU
in the time they had prior to the
gathering, therefore, no launching ability
nor shifting ability. When
things are worked out (shortly), I'm sure
you'll hear about it. Lord
knows, I want to hear about it, if not see
it.
Damon
Joe Gonsowski wrote:
>>Does anyone have
1/4 mile times from the National Gathering?
>>
>
>
http://www.3si.org/vbb/showthread.php?s=442ea078d9dea0be8f96debb13db151b&thr>
eadid=95468
>
> Just posted complete round by round action to
3si.org
>
> Joe G.
>
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Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 13:01:19
-0400
From: "Ben M. Jones" <
benjones@protechgp.com>
Subject:
Team3S: Valve Lash Adjusters
According to the service manual the valve
lash adjusters on the SOHC
Stealth require adjustment prior to installation.
Do the adjusters for
the DOHC Twin Turbo require adjust also?
Does
anyone know where I could get a better price than $24 Can
ea.?
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Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 11:47:57
-0700
From: "Trevor James" <
trevorlj@cox.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S:
Greddy Type S - Catching Gear Linkage?
I did the dremel thing too. Works
like a champ and I don't have to try to
reposition it just right everytime I
remove/install the Y-pipe.
Trevor
96 R/T TT,
11.82@116.1 on 93 octane
- ----- Original
Message -----
From: "Black, Dave (ICT)" <
dblai@allstate.com>
To: "TEAM 3S"
<
team3s@team3s.com>
Sent:
Wednesday, August 14, 2002 8:44 AM
Subject: RE: Team3S: Greddy Type S -
Catching Gear Linkage?
> I had a similar problem on my 95VR4 after
installing the Greddy BOV. I
> ziptied the BOV up and out of the way
as best I could but I still had a
> little problem occasionally getting
into 5th gear. I noticed that the
> corner of the counterweight on
the linkage was still catching up on the
BOV.
> So I decided to use my
Dremel tool with a small grinding wheel to grind
down
> the corner of
the counterweight enough so that it's out of the way. I can
>
provide a pic tomorrow if you'd like. Send me a private email and let
me
> know.
>
> Dave 95VR4
>
http://www.daveblack.net>
>
>
Somewhere I had heard about it interfering with the
> gear linkage. It was
a thread I read a long time ago.
>
>
>
>
>
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Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 16:02:25
EDT
From:
Jawscardodger@cs.comSubject: Team3S:
Head ?
What year heads will fit on a 1993 VR4? Also are VR4 and N/A the
same?
Thanks Jim
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Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 16:09:40
-0400
From: "Furman, Russell" <
RFurman2@MassMutual.com>
Subject:
Team3S: HP difference between 1G/2G
I have been meaning to ask this for a
while, particularly b/c I may be
buying another 93 (Stealth this time
although another VR would be ok too)
Other than a 3 psi increase in boost
(approximate) what accounts for the
15HP difference between the 93 and 94
model year cars?
Different cam grinds? more timing via the ECU?
Russ F
CT
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Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 15:11:32
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From: "Simons, Chris - BUR" <
csimons@wm.com>
Subject: Team3S:
Instrument Panel Light on..What does it mean?
Hi All,
I just got
my car back from the rebuilders and just noticed that one of my
indicator
lights is coming on. It's the one on the right side of
the
instrument cluster at the bottom. The graphic looks like it has a
roof and
pillars that go to the floor?????
Can someone please tell me
what this is.
Thanks tons.
Chris
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Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 13:41:22
-0700
From: "dakken" <
dougusmagnus@attbi.com>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: Hesitation problem (Long)
I just reinstalled my ECU and I am
still having the same problem. Only now
it seems a lot more
pronounced.
Could this be caused by a bad ISC? I disconnected my
ISC and ran the car.
Same result. Only difference is that the car idled
at about 1400 rpms.
Would a ISC that is staying open at WOT cause the car
to hesitate?
Doug
92 Stealth RT TT
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Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 20:51:23
-0000
From: "Jeff Lucius" <
jlucius@stealth316.com>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: Head ?
Fairly complete cylinder head and timing train
info:
http://www.stealth316.com/2-headinfo.htmHead
assemblies have the same part number for production date 9205.1 till the
end
of production. However, '91 and '92 heads may actually bolt to '93 and
later
blocks. There really are very few differences in heads between years and
turbo/non-turbo models - DOHC.
Interestingly, CAPS data indicate
model years start with 9x06.1 production
dates. However, CAPS lists the
heads changing in 9205.1, one month before '93
production should have
started. CAPS does show the block assembly changing on
9206.1 so maybe this
is a typo in CAPS. Because of the CAS move from the head
to the block in
'93, both the block and head must change at the same time.
Jeff Lucius,
http://www.stealth316.com/-
----- Original Message -----
From: <
Jawscardodger@cs.com>
To: <
team3s@stealth-3000gt.st>
Sent:
Wednesday, August 14, 2002 2:02 PM
Subject: Team3S: Head ?
What year
heads will fit on a 1993 VR4? Also are VR4 and N/A the same?
Thanks Jim
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Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 14:05:47
-0700
From: "James Mutton" <
james@playstream.com>
Subject: RE:
Team3S: Instrument Panel Light on..What does it mean?
Coolant level,
check your overflow tank.
James Mutton (vrrrr4)
95 3000GT
VR4
- -----Original Message-----
From: Simons, Chris - BUR
[mailto:csimons@wm.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 1:12 PM
To:
team3S@team3s.comSubject: Team3S:
Instrument Panel Light on..What does it mean?
Hi All,
I just
got my car back from the rebuilders and just noticed that one
of
my
indicator lights is coming on. It's the one on the right
side of the
instrument cluster at the bottom. The graphic looks like it
has a roof
and pillars that go to the floor?????
Can someone please
tell me what this is.
Thanks
tons.
Chris
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Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 17:15:50
-0400
From: "Andre Cerri" <
cerri@intersystems.com>
Subject:
RE: List Prices [was] Re: Team3S: Request procedure to replace
thermostat
I had this recently with dash defrost vents. Two local
dealerships here in
SE FL quoted me both the highest and lowest prices I can
find. Same for a
TPS - $106 vs $170. They're about 6 miles apart.....and are
both owned by
the same entity!!!
I think Mitsu gives out a msrp, and
the dealerships take it from there.
Coconut Creek Mitsu can even beat
Rockville if you say your are 3si/teams3s.
But they won't ship, so for lucky
locals only.
Andre
- -----Original Message-----
From:
owner-team3s@team3s.com
[mailto:owner-team3s@team3s.com]On Behalf
Of glenn vrfour
Sent: Wednesday,
August 14, 2002 11:54 AM
To:
Team3S@stealth-3000gt.stSubject:
List Prices [was] Re: Team3S: Request procedure to
replace
thermostat
I found the same thing with the fuel filter
I
purchased Locally (Korum Mitsubishi, Puyallup WA).
The 'List' price the
local dealer charged me was about
20 percent higher that the Rockville 'list'
price.
Hey anyone want to have fun?? call your local dealer
and
get a price for the thermostat (MD174234). E-mail
me privately with the
price and dealership, and I will
post the results. I think we will find
that 'List' is
just a made up number.
Glenn
- --- fastmax
<
fastmax@cox.net> wrote:
> I
looked that up after I posted and found the same
> thing --- I wonder
if
> Rockville Mitsu is selling a non Mitsu part. Or
> maybe I was
quoted wrong
> at my dealer ??? I just called my dealer and
was
> quoted $39.40 this time,
> still a pretty good
markup.
>
> Jim
Berry
> =============================================
> -----
Original Message -----
> From: "glenn vrfour" <
vr4glenn@yahoo.com>
> To: <
Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
>
Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 7:21 AM
> Subject: Re: Team3S: Request
procedure to replace
> thermostat
>
>
> > You must
have some dealer!
> >
> > here is price from
mitsupartsdirect.com
> >
> > MD174234
THERMOSTA list=$ 21.18 sale=$ 16.94
> >
> >
call them and ask for team3s discount and your
> price
> > will
be even less.
> >
> > Glenn
> >
> > ---
fastmax <
fastmax@cox.net>
wrote:
> > > The gasket on mine was a rubber seal that went
>
> > around the edge of
> > > the thermostat housing --- not a
flat gasket as
> you
> > > would have for the
> >
> exhaust manifold for example. FWIW --- I
> mentioned
> >
> this before but
> > > I thought it worth repeating. The Great
Satin
> wanted
> > > $50 or $60 for
> > > the
thermostat, I found what appears to be an
> exact
> > >
duplicate at an
> > > auto parts store for about $17 --- they also
had
> a
> > > generic POS one
> > > for $9 which
should be avoided unless you're
> selling
> > > the car
to
> > > someone you don't like.
> > >
> >
> Jim Berry
> > >
================================
> > > ----- Original Message
-----
> > > From: "Dan Johnson" <
hiimdan74@yahoo.com>
> >
>
> > >
> > > > I don't have an official
step-by-step
> procedure
> > > for the thermostat, but
it
> > > > is simple, and I've done it so I'll tell you
>
what
> > > I did.
> > > >
> > > >
Preparations -Have replacement coolant mixture
> > >
>
-Have a scraper in case
> the
> > > old gasket won't come
off
> > >
>
-Responsibly collect old
> > > coolant, which flows out of
the
> > > > engine when you pull the hoses
> > >
>
> > > >
> > > > Remove the Y-Pipe
>
> > > Unplug and removed the MAS (not necessary, but
> > >
gives a little more room)
> > > > Remove the air intake hose that
connects to
> the
> > > MAS
> > > > Remove the
lower radiator hose (coolant will
> begin
> > > flowing
out)
> > > > Remove the four bolts of the thermostat
>
housing
> > > (they are different sizes so
> > > >
label them)
> > > > Remove the cover for the thermostat
housing
> > > > Remove the old thermostat
> > > >
Install the new thermostat, there is jiggle
> valve
> > > that
needs to be aligned
> > > > with the mark on the top of the
housing.
> > > > Reverse removal procedures, when
reinstalling
> the
> > > air intake hoses there are
>
> > > markings on the tops that need to be aligned.
> > >
And, remember to reconnect
> > > > the MAS wiring.
> >
> >
> > > > Best Regards,
> > > > Dan
Johnson
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message
-----
> > > > From: "P N Sankarshanan" <
yoss@aracnet.com>
> > > >
To: "Team3S" <
team3s@team3s.com>
> > > >
Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 11:00 AM
> > > > Subject: Team3S:
Request procedure to replace
> > > thermostat
> > >
>
> > > >
> > > > > Greetings:
> >
> > >
> > > >
> I'm looking for a
step-by-step
> procedure
> > > for replacing the
> >
> > thermostat
> > > >
> on a 2nd gen VR4. Any
pointers is
> > > greatly appreciated.
> > > >
>
> > > > > Thanks!
> > > > >
-sankar
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > >
>
>
>
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>
> > > ***
> > > > > Picard: "Why her?"
> >
> > > Worf: "Sir, I believe she was the intended
> > >
target of the abduction."
> > > > > Riker: "Why would they
want to take a
> Federation
> > > hostage? Their
fight
> > > > doesn't
> > > > >
involve us."
> > > > > Worf: "It does now."
> > >
> > --Picard, Worf, and Riker, "The High
> Ground",
> >
> Stardate 43
> > > > >
> > > >
> >
>
>
>
>
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>
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Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 17:28:19
-0400
From: "Joshua G. Prince" <
joshua@unconundrum.com>
Subject:
RE: List Prices [was] Re: Team3S: Request procedure to replace
thermostat
Try
www.car-parts.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Andre Cerri
[mailto:cerri@intersystems.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 5:16
PM
To: glenn vrfour;
Team3S@stealth-3000gt.stSubject:
RE: List Prices [was] Re: Team3S: Request procedure to
replace
thermostat
I had this recently with dash defrost vents. Two local
dealerships here
in
SE FL quoted me both the highest and lowest prices I
can find. Same for
a
TPS - $106 vs $170. They're about 6 miles
apart.....and are both owned
by
the same entity!!!
I think Mitsu
gives out a msrp, and the dealerships take it from there.
Coconut Creek Mitsu
can even beat Rockville if you say your are
3si/teams3s.
But they won't
ship, so for lucky locals only.
Andre
- -----Original
Message-----
From:
owner-team3s@team3s.com
[mailto:owner-team3s@team3s.com]On Behalf
Of glenn vrfour
Sent: Wednesday,
August 14, 2002 11:54 AM
To:
Team3S@stealth-3000gt.stSubject:
List Prices [was] Re: Team3S: Request procedure to
replace
thermostat
I found the same thing with the fuel filter
I
purchased Locally (Korum Mitsubishi, Puyallup WA).
The 'List' price the
local dealer charged me was about
20 percent higher that the Rockville 'list'
price.
Hey anyone want to have fun?? call your local dealer
and
get a price for the thermostat (MD174234). E-mail
me privately with the
price and dealership, and I will
post the results. I think we will find
that 'List' is
just a made up number.
Glenn
- --- fastmax
<
fastmax@cox.net> wrote:
> I
looked that up after I posted and found the same
> thing --- I wonder
if
> Rockville Mitsu is selling a non Mitsu part. Or
> maybe I was
quoted wrong
> at my dealer ??? I just called my dealer and
was
> quoted $39.40 this time,
> still a pretty good
markup.
>
> Jim
Berry
> =============================================
> -----
Original Message -----
> From: "glenn vrfour" <
vr4glenn@yahoo.com>
> To: <
Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
>
Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 7:21 AM
> Subject: Re: Team3S: Request
procedure to replace
> thermostat
>
>
> > You must
have some dealer!
> >
> > here is price from
mitsupartsdirect.com
> >
> > MD174234
THERMOSTA list=$ 21.18 sale=$ 16.94
> >
> >
call them and ask for team3s discount and your
> price
> > will
be even less.
> >
> > Glenn
> >
> > ---
fastmax <
fastmax@cox.net>
wrote:
> > > The gasket on mine was a rubber seal that went
>
> > around the edge of
> > > the thermostat housing --- not a
flat gasket as
> you
> > > would have for the
> >
> exhaust manifold for example. FWIW --- I
> mentioned
> >
> this before but
> > > I thought it worth repeating. The Great
Satin
> wanted
> > > $50 or $60 for
> > > the
thermostat, I found what appears to be an
> exact
> > >
duplicate at an
> > > auto parts store for about $17 --- they also
had
> a
> > > generic POS one
> > > for $9 which
should be avoided unless you're
> selling
> > > the car
to
> > > someone you don't like.
> > >
> >
> Jim Berry
> > >
================================
> > > ----- Original Message
-----
> > > From: "Dan Johnson" <
hiimdan74@yahoo.com>
> >
>
> > >
> > > > I don't have an official
step-by-step
> procedure
> > > for the thermostat, but
it
> > > > is simple, and I've done it so I'll tell you
>
what
> > > I did.
> > > >
> > > >
Preparations -Have replacement coolant mixture
> > >
>
-Have a scraper in case
> the
> > > old gasket won't come
off
> > >
>
-Responsibly collect old
> > > coolant, which flows out of
the
> > > > engine when you pull the hoses
> > >
>
> > > >
> > > > Remove the Y-Pipe
>
> > > Unplug and removed the MAS (not necessary, but
> > >
gives a little more room)
> > > > Remove the air intake hose that
connects to
> the
> > > MAS
> > > > Remove the
lower radiator hose (coolant will
> begin
> > > flowing
out)
> > > > Remove the four bolts of the thermostat
>
housing
> > > (they are different sizes so
> > > >
label them)
> > > > Remove the cover for the thermostat
housing
> > > > Remove the old thermostat
> > > >
Install the new thermostat, there is jiggle
> valve
> > > that
needs to be aligned
> > > > with the mark on the top of the
housing.
> > > > Reverse removal procedures, when
reinstalling
> the
> > > air intake hoses there are
>
> > > markings on the tops that need to be aligned.
> > >
And, remember to reconnect
> > > > the MAS wiring.
> >
> >
> > > > Best Regards,
> > > > Dan
Johnson
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message
-----
> > > > From: "P N Sankarshanan" <
yoss@aracnet.com>
> > > >
To: "Team3S" <
team3s@team3s.com>
> > > >
Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 11:00 AM
> > > > Subject: Team3S:
Request procedure to replace
> > > thermostat
> > >
>
> > > >
> > > > > Greetings:
> >
> > >
> > > >
> I'm looking for a
step-by-step
> procedure
> > > for replacing the
> >
> > thermostat
> > > >
> on a 2nd gen VR4. Any
pointers is
> > > greatly appreciated.
> > > >
>
> > > > > Thanks!
> > > > >
-sankar
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > >
>
>
>
************************************************************************
****
>
> > > ***
> > > > > Picard: "Why her?"
> >
> > > Worf: "Sir, I believe she was the intended
> > >
target of the abduction."
> > > > > Riker: "Why would they
want to take a
> Federation
> > > hostage? Their
fight
> > > > doesn't
> > > > >
involve us."
> > > > > Worf: "It does now."
> > >
> > --Picard, Worf, and Riker, "The High
> Ground",
> >
> Stardate 43
> > > > >
> > > >
> >
>
>
>
>
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Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 18:07:00
-0400
From: "SWC" <
swc@centurytel.net>
Subject: Team3S:
How to remove cigarette lighter?
Hey all,
I fried my lighter and
aux power source a few years back using a portable
air pump, and now that I'm
back on the road I need to get these working (for
G-Tech, cell-phone, and
uhh, smoking)
I traced the lighter problem to the lighter itself, I
have power going into
it. But - I can't figure our how to get the darn
thing out to replace it.
I see that there's a few plastic clips around
it, of which I immediate
broke a few trying to release them. But
that didn't help.
What's the secret?
Thanks,
Steve C.
92
RT TT
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Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 18:41:05
-0500
From: "
merritt@cedar-rapids.net" <
merritt@cedar-rapids.net>
Subject:
Team3S: Big Hiccup
Hey! What was that big Internet hiccup just
now?
For about 15 minutes at abotu 6:15-6:30 central time, I couldn't raise
nobody, not on phone, private Intranet nor cable modem. When I got through to
one of my ISPs, the Internet was dead.
Are we going to read about this
tomorrow in COMPUTERWORLD?
Rich/slow old poop
momentairily out of
touch with the world.
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