Team3S: 3000GT & Stealth    Sunday, August 4 2002    Volume 01 : Number 916




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Date: Sat, 3 Aug 2002 19:17:08 -0700
From: "dakken" <dougusmagnus@attbi.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Re: ABS

> -Cody
> **disabled ABS mod - TMO datalogger constantly plugged in...

I have a Tunerstein Laptop Datalogger.  One day, I was making a datalog when
I hit the brakes hard to stop for a light.  My brake pedal modulated just
like the ABS was working and there was no wheel lockup.  Is this supposed to
happen or is it just a difference between the data loggers?


Doug
92 Stealth RT TT


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Date: Sat, 3 Aug 2002 20:15:13 -0700
From: "fastmax" <fastmax@cox.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Re: ABS

Rich Fowler just told me that if you plug the TMO in after starting the car
that the ABS will be enabled --- I have not tried it.

        Jim Berry
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- ----- Original Message -----
From: "dakken" <dougusmagnus@attbi.com>
To: <team3s@stealth-3000gt.st>
Sent: Saturday, August 03, 2002 7:17 PM
Subject: Re: Team3S: Re: ABS


> > -Cody
> > **disabled ABS mod - TMO datalogger constantly plugged in...
>
> I have a Tunerstein Laptop Datalogger.  One day, I was making a datalog when
> I hit the brakes hard to stop for a light.  My brake pedal modulated just
> like the ABS was working and there was no wheel lockup.  Is this supposed to
> happen or is it just a difference between the data loggers?
>
>
> Doug
> 92 Stealth RT TT
>
>
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Date: Sun, 4 Aug 2002 00:11:22 -0400
From: "Chris McFarland" <cm1994@qx.net>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Re: ABS

I know with the Pocket Logger, it DOES disable the ABS.  I can still clearly
remember the night last year when a deer ran out in front of me.  All 4
wheels locked and I ran right into him.  :(

Chris McFarland
93 Stealth R/T TT


>I have a Tunerstein Laptop Datalogger.  One day, I was making a datalog
when
>I hit the brakes hard to stop for a light.  My brake pedal modulated just
>like the ABS was working and there was no wheel lockup.  Is this supposed
to
>happen or is it just a difference between the data loggers?


>Doug
>92 Stealth RT TT



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Date: Sat, 3 Aug 2002 21:57:43 -0700 (PDT)
From: JuQuEl <juquel@yahoo.com>
Subject: Team3S: Clutch Problem

I just started having a major problem w/ my clutch.
There is absolutely no resistance when I step on it.
Could it be a clutch fluid problem?  Any ideas,
suggestions, etc. would be appreciated...

Thanks!!

LouAnn
'93 VR-4 

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Date: Sun, 4 Aug 2002 00:17:28 -0500
From: "cody" <overclck@satx.rr.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Re: ABS

Is your ABS light constantly on???  With the TMO, mine is...

- -Cody

- -----Original Message-----
From: owner-team3s@team3s.com [mailto:owner-team3s@team3s.com] On Behalf
Of dakken
Sent: Saturday, August 03, 2002 9:17 PM
To: team3s@stealth-3000gt.st
Subject: Re: Team3S: Re: ABS

> -Cody
> **disabled ABS mod - TMO datalogger constantly plugged in...

I have a Tunerstein Laptop Datalogger.  One day, I was making a datalog
when
I hit the brakes hard to stop for a light.  My brake pedal modulated
just
like the ABS was working and there was no wheel lockup.  Is this
supposed to
happen or is it just a difference between the data loggers?


Doug
92 Stealth RT TT


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Date: Sat, 3 Aug 2002 22:36:49 -0700
From: "dakken" <dougusmagnus@attbi.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Re: ABS

> Is your ABS light constantly on???  With the TMO, mine is...

It is constantly on.  I believe that Jim Berry may have the answer.  I think
I have been plugging in the laptop after I start the engine.  I remember to
check this, next time I log some data.

Doug
92 Stealth RT TT


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Date: Sun, 04 Aug 2002 01:01:54 -0500
From: "merritt@cedar-rapids.net" <merritt@cedar-rapids.net>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Re: ABS

Seems like this trick oughta go into the ABS FAQ page, along with the photo and story about Greg Gonzales' brake booster hose.

Shoot, these tricks might save fellow listers thousands of dollars on unecessary ABS repairs.

Imagine how many dealers have replaced ABS pumps and control boxes, when all they really had to do was replace an $18 vacuum hose or take the fusible link in and out. What's more, I bet the dealers know all about these cheap fixes.

Is this a great list or what?

Rich/slow old poop


At 08:54 PM 8/3/02 -0500, cody wrote:
>Let me be the third to tell you the same... One night on my '93, it
>stuck on, and I, like you, totally screwed up the fuse....  Well, once I
>got it back together, it has worked fine since... 
>-Cody
>

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Date: Sun, 4 Aug 2002 08:13:49 -0500
From: "Dennis and Anita Moore" <stealth@quixnet.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Clutch Problem

What exactly to you mean by "no resistance"?  None whatsoever?  None until
the end of travel?  The pedal is laying on the floorboard?

Does it still disengage so you can shift gears?

Dennis
93 Stealth ES (with recent experience in dead clutches...)

- ----- Original Message -----
From: "JuQuEl" <juquel@yahoo.com>
To: "Team 3S" <Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
Sent: Saturday, August 03, 2002 11:57 PM
Subject: Team3S: Clutch Problem


I just started having a major problem w/ my clutch.
There is absolutely no resistance when I step on it.
Could it be a clutch fluid problem?  Any ideas,
suggestions, etc. would be appreciated...

Thanks!!

LouAnn
'93 VR-4

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Date: Sun, 4 Aug 2002 10:20:11 -0400
From: "Darren Schilberg" <dschilberg@pobox.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Clutch Problem

Remember that you do not necessarily NEED the clutch to disengage in
order to shift gears but it makes things much nicer inside all those
gears and synchronizers.  Just ask the truck drivers how to rev match
for shifting.  If your clutch is not working properly then try this
trick to get out of first so you can drive down the road at normal speed
and RPM and then go back down the gears to drive slowly through a
Mechanic's parking lot.

It is easier in any gear except first but I'll start there anyway.

Starting up in first gear accelerate easily and slowly until your RPMs
are around 3,000 - 4,000 and then gently but firmly ease some pressure
onto the gearshift to pull it out of first gear and into neutral.  Don't
keep accelerating and drop revs if you want to (down to as low as 2,000
RPMs).  Once it is neutral you are halfway to the goal.

Try and remember what RPMs second gear is at your current speed (if you
are at 60 mph then you need to be up around 6,000 RPMs so try it at a
MUCH lower speed first).  If you are around 10-20 mph then this is good.
Gently rev up a little to 2,000 RPM and try to ease the shifter back
into second gear or perhaps try for third (which might require the revs
to drop some more).  Once in to second then you can drive most places up
to around 60 mph so this might be good enough.

You can also turn off the car in gear and start it in gear although this
is all hard on the tranny bits so be as kind as possible to your car.
And try this on your friend's 1983 Vega first if you can.  But there are
ways around it.

This assumes that the clutch is engaged.  If it is disengaged and is not
allowing any transmitting of power then you need to work like Fred
Flintstone.  Hope this helps some of you.

By the way, downshifting is just the opposite.  Instead of revving up to
3,000 RPM in first and letting it drop DOWN to 2,000 RPM before trying
second or to 1,000 RPM before trying third you start in third at 1,000
RPM and rev UP to 2,000 - 3,000 RPM and go for second.  It works if you
need it to.

- --Flash!

- -----Original Message-----
From: Dennis and Anita Moore
Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2002 09:14

What exactly to you mean by "no resistance"?  None whatsoever?  None
until the end of travel?  The pedal is laying on the floorboard?

Does it still disengage so you can shift gears?


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Date: Sun, 4 Aug 2002 10:59:55 -0400
From: "Furman, Russell" <RFurman2@MassMutual.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: HKS intercoolers and hard pipes upgrade

Hey Darren, and any one else that cares......  Try turbonetics.com  they
have all sorts of silicone couplers, like the 3 inch to 2 3/4 inch coupler
that I am using to connect my DN perfornmance Ypipe to the throttle body.
 
http://64.225.76.178/catalog/silicone.html
<http://64.225.76.178/catalog/silicone.html>
 
try about halfway down the page, the smallest they come in is 2" to 2.25"
 
Hope this helps Darren
 
Russ F
CT

- -----Original Message-----
From: Darren Schilberg [mailto:dschilberg@pobox.com]
Sent: Sat 8/3/2002 11:28 AM
To: team3S@stealth-3000gt.st
Cc:
Subject: RE: Team3S: HKS intercoolers and hard pipes upgrade



Thanks, Matt.  That eases tension a little.  But I must have a different
setup than you.  As you can see in the webpage of pictures - the HKS
pipes are white and not black.  And thanks for the tip about Dynamic
Racing ones first but this set cost me nothing except the trouble of
piecing it all together.  I didn't have to remove them, ship them, or
anything.

I am VERY happy to have these and only be out my time and effort.  I
think street value is $1,200-$1,800 on these babies (or they were when
new).  Some of the pipes even have heat wrap on them to keep as much
heat away from the pipes as possible.

And I put the rear pipe on (the one that comes up from the rear turbo,
across the rear manifold, and to the right of the plenum) and the ID of
these HKS pipes is nearly equal to the OD of the stock pipes.  So now
you see the problem.  The stock OD is about 1-5/8" from the blurry
picture and the HKS ID is at least 1-3/4" so I am trying to see how to
connect them since this HKS pipe just slides over the rear turbo outlet
like it isn't even there.

I just realized the problem.  The donor car had larger than stock
turbos.  I don't know if there is more than one HKS kit and I don't know
where to look if anywhere for numbers on this set.  Would there be any
harm to connect with a silicone coupler from a slightly smaller outlet
to a slightly larger inlet?  Shouldn't be.  I just need to find a
silicone coupler that is pliable enough to mate to both the turbo exit
and the hard pipe inlet.  I haven't see too many couplers like that as
they are always the same diameter on each end.

- --Flash!


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Date: Sun, 4 Aug 2002 07:57:30 -0700
From: "fastmax" <fastmax@cox.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Re: ABS

I was told that if you plug in the TMO 'after' you start the car you won't
affect the ABS. In my case if I plug it in with the car off and then start
the car the ABS light is on and the system is disabled. As I said before
I haven't tried the other way and don't currently have my datalogger
available.

        Jim Berry
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From: "dakken" <dougusmagnus@attbi.com>
To: <team3s@stealth-3000gt.st>
Sent: Saturday, August 03, 2002 10:36 PM
Subject: Re: Team3S: Re: ABS


>
> > Is your ABS light constantly on???  With the TMO, mine is...
>
> It is constantly on.  I believe that Jim Berry may have the answer.  I think
> I have been plugging in the laptop after I start the engine.  I remember to
> check this, next time I log some data.
>
> Doug
> 92 Stealth RT TT
>
>
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Date: Sun, 04 Aug 2002 16:35:55 +0000
From: l.enriquez@attbi.com
Subject: Team3S: NEED HELP!!!!

I need help in finding a mechanic in the Chicago land
area that is familiar with working on stealths/3000gts. 
I flat bedded my stealth r/t tt to a auto shop where its
been there for a good month and they cannot get nething
done to it, everytime i pass by the shop its sitting in
the same exact spot for a good month, i'm getting
severly impatient with them, and i'm willing to flatbed
it out of there and into another quality, trustworthy
mechanic that is familiar with vr-4 and r/t TT.  NE
recomendations???

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Date: Sun, 04 Aug 2002 16:33:03 -0500
From: "merritt@cedar-rapids.net" <merritt@cedar-rapids.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S: NEED HELP!!!!

At 04:35 PM 8/4/02 +0000, you wrote:
>I need help in finding a mechanic in the Chicago land
>area that is familiar with working on stealths/3000gts. 
>I flat bedded my stealth r/t tt to a auto shop where its
>been there for a good month and they cannot get nething
>done to it, everytime i pass by the shop its sitting in
>the same exact spot for a good month, i'm getting
>severly impatient with them, and i'm willing to flatbed
>it out of there and into another quality, trustworthy
>mechanic that is familiar with vr-4 and r/t TT.  NE
>recomendations???

How about Fast & Furious in Cedar Rapids? He works on my car, and has an 11 sec 3000GT (NOS) of his own, plus several Talons. I've seen other 3000GTs/Stealths in the shop from time to time.

For me, he's installed a boost controller, BOV, and Supra fuel pump, and tuned it for 13.14 @ 104.69. (It'd probably runs 12s if I knew how to drag race properly.) I plan to have him put in bigger turbos, injectors, AFC, etc. this winter. He seems to know what he's doing with our cars, and he's reasonable.

He also knows a local farmer kid with an F250 diesel dually and a trailer who will probably come get your car for a reasonable amount of money (he picked up my dead Talon for $20 and took it to the F&F shop). I can't even guess what they'd charge you for a trip to Chicago, but it would probably be a whole lot less than anybody else would charge.

Call Trent Durham at 319/981-6931 to check, or email him at fastfuriousco@msn.com

Rich/slow old poop/94 VR4

 ,
>

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Date: Sun, 04 Aug 2002 21:08:32 -0700
From: Shaun Cameron <stealth@blizzarddesign.com>
Subject: Team3S: Average Monthly Cost Question

Hi there,
  I joined this list awhile ago with the intention in mind that I wanted to
buy myself a 91/92 Base or ES Stealth by next fall. I've loved this car for
years but never realistically believed that I could afford it. I've been
spending this summer doing deep research into prices and trying to figure
out if my budget could handle it. I have a pretty good idea on how much I
would be spending on the car itself and my next mission was to figure out
how much this car (on average) costs per month/year in maintenance. I've
been driving around in a 95 Ford that has cost my thousand in repairs, and
is expected to have further problems with Head Gaskets and transmission
problems in the near future. So I'm gearing up to sell it and to buy a car I
would truly enjoy (which is where the Stealth comes in). I'm in the
Portland, OR area and I've learned tons about self-repair through this list
and I thought that if I were to ever buy a car it would be this one mainly
because this list is here and it provides great support when it comes to
do-it-yourself auto work.
   In any case, I was wondering if anyone could post up their maintenance
cost logs and any other noteworthy expense logs that they have. Including
gas/oil changes/engine work and so on and so on. Especially from anyone that
owns a 91/92 Base or ES Stealth that doesn't race it. This would truly be
appreciated and could be the deciding factor on if I buy this car or not. On
another note, I don't really plan on racing this car, and I plan on using it
mainly just as my one and only car for year-around traveling. I've seen a
good number of pictures of crippled Stealths from accidents, so I also
question on if this car would really be safe for the Oregon climate. With
good tires and normal driving speeds, would I really need to worry too much
about losing control as much as I would with any other car?

Thanks for the tips you guys! I really don't know anywhere else I would turn
for an answer, so I appreciate any help you can give. :)

- -Shaun Cameron
Hoping to be a Dodge Stealth owner!


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