Team3S: 3000GT & Stealth     Sunday, June 16 2002     Volume 01 : Number 871




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Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2002 23:45:49 +0000
From: "Hans Hortin" <hortin@hotmail.com>
Subject: [none]

Hello

My airbag has a problem.
When it starts (SRS get black after 7 seconds) i hear a "klick" under the
dashboard. After a while it lights SRS.
If i clean the contact in the steeringwheel it starts a couple of times.
Any suggestions. Kneekoob is what.

Can anyone check out the price for a shipping a Clutch Set from USA to 97441
Lulea, Sweden.
The price is of a clutch is 130-160$.
Shipping?
If someone get a good price 50-75$, total 200$.
I put the money to your account and you buy it for me.
I try this way.
Tried the T3S discount but i havent get a anser yet.

Hans

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Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2002 16:49:35 -0700
From: "dakken" <dougusmagnus@attbi.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Help!!!!!!

Hunting down leaks is never fun.  The only sure way that I know to do it is
to degrease and completely clean the area that you suspect that the leak is
coming from.  If you have a steam cleaner then you are in luck.  If not then
you will have to buy a engine degreaser and use lots of rags to clean that
area up.  The area has to be so clean that you can tell the difference
between a wet spot and a dry one.  Once you have the entire area clean, then
inspect it right way with a flash light to see if it is actively leaking
while your car is parked.  If not then start the engine and take a look with
the engine running.  If you still can't find the culprit then if you have
the car on jack stands (as opposed to drive up ramps) then have someone turn
the wheels, pump the brakes, pump the clutch, rev the engine.  One of those
actions should show where the leak is then.  If none of those make the leak
show, then take the car off of the jack stands and drive it around the block
once and jack it back up for a look.

Be sure to use all the normal safty precautions.  Accidentally putting the
car in gear with it on jacks could be deadly.

Doug
92 Stealth RT TT
Apexi AVC-R, Apexi SAFC, K&N Filter, DN Downpipe, Custom 3" cat back, high
flow cat, Walboro 341 fuel pump, Stillen cross drilled rotors, 3SX SS
braided brake lines and gutted pre-cats.

Soon to come in next 2 weeks:
DSM 450 cc injectors, Direct Hits ignition system, a front exhaust manifold
that doesn't have a *&^#@! crack in it.

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Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2002 17:02:45 -0700
From: "dakken" <dougusmagnus@attbi.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Thanks to all and a quick question (AVCR)

Currently I see .45 kg/cm2 boost in all my gears with the controller off.
This could be because I have a free flowing exhaust now.  I don't think I
ever checked it when my car was all stock.

At this point, what I would recommend you do is disconnect the AVCR boost
solenoid and reconnect the stock solenoid.  Check what boost values you are
getting with the stock solenoid.  It should be around .75 kg/cm2 in 3rd
gear.  If it is not then you may have a problem outside of the AVCR.  If it
is around that number then you may have a bad boost solenoid.

Doug
92 Stealth RT TT
Apexi AVC-R, Apexi SAFC, K&N Filter, DN Downpipe, Custom 3" cat back, high
flow cat, Walboro 341 fuel pump, Stillen cross drilled rotors, 3SX SS
braided brake lines and gutted pre-cats.

Soon to come in next 2 weeks:
DSM 450 cc injectors, Direct Hits ignition system, a front exhaust manifold
that doesn't have a *&^#@! crack in it.

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Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2002 01:43:32 -0400
From: "Philip V. Glazatov" <gphilip@umich.edu>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Thanks to all and a quick question (AVCR)

My experience with tuning the AVC-R was quite different. I had problems
with getting it to learn when my duty cycle was too low for the desired
boost. I had to manually raise the duty cycles to enable the learning.
Right now my duty cycles are between 70% and 80% and my boost setpoint is
only 0.9 kg/cm^2.

At 19:34 6/15/2002, dakken wrote:
>With the AVCR OFF I am getting .45 kg/cm2 boost.  Because of the way the
>system is set up I doubt you can set it any lower than what the waste gate
>actuators will allow.  With a 40% duty cycle I can set boost anywhere I want
>it and I get exactly what I set.  With 70% duty cycle you should be over
>boosting by a large margin.

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Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2002 01:51:58 -0400
From: "Philip V. Glazatov" <gphilip@umich.edu>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Went to the dragstrip today...

Dang! These are excellent times for 14 psi!

What about the LEADED 110 octane. How long can you run it before the O2
sensors or catalysts go south?

Philip

At 17:37 6/15/2002, Matt Jannusch wrote:
>However....  On leaded 110 octane race fuel and 14 psi my best timeslip was:
>
>60':   1.849
>330:   5.301
>1/8:   8.185
>MPH:  86.08
>1000: 10.626
>1/4:  12.671
>MPH: 110.06

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Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2002 23:04:17 -0700 (PDT)
From: Geoff Mohler <gemohler@www.speedtoys.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Went to the dragstrip today...

Is it worth the hassle or cost?

Nope.

On Sun, 16 Jun 2002, Philip V. Glazatov wrote:

> Dang! These are excellent times for 14 psi!
>
> What about the LEADED 110 octane. How long can you run it before the O2
> sensors or catalysts go south?
>
> Philip
>
> At 17:37 6/15/2002, Matt Jannusch wrote:
> >However....  On leaded 110 octane race fuel and 14 psi my best timeslip was:
> >
> >60':   1.849
> >330:   5.301
> >1/8:   8.185
> >MPH:  86.08
> >1000: 10.626
> >1/4:  12.671
> >MPH: 110.06

- ---
Geoff Mohler
Lots of cars..and race them all.  Dont you?

Got Brakes?   I've got savings!
Porterfield parts catalog online now at http://www.speedtoys.com
- ---

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Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2002 00:11:23 -0600
From: "Donald Ashby" <dashbyiii@earthlink.net>
Subject: Team3S: Data Logging

What data logger would you personally suggest using, please point out
benefits of using your favorite over some other one. The 2 major ones I'm
looking at are pocket logger, and TMO.
Benefits of pocket logger, small compact, view 12 sensor values at a time,
graphing
Downside of pocket logger, requires a palm pilot. Palms don't have THAT much
memory

Benefits of TMO: Monitor just about everything at once with very high
sampling rate and large storage capacity (laptop has lots of memory)
Downside of TMO: Heard there is no customer support, and the guy who makes
them has all but dropped off the face of the earth, and requires having a
laptop onboard to datalog.

Thanks for your help guys, one last thing is that I CAN get a TMO if I
decide it is better then pocket logger, so don't worry about not being able
to order them, or back order or whatever.
Donald Ashby
'93 3000GT VR-4
Member #4909

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Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2002 01:20:11 -0500
From: "Jeff" <spydervr4@attbi.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Data Logging

I've used both and in my opinion the TMO logger is easier to use and easier
to tune with.  The software is very intuitive and well laid out and in my
experience doesn't require any sort of support.  That's not to say that the
Pocketlogger is bad product because the capabilities are the same; I just
don't care much for logging on the tiny (and most of the times monochrome)
Palm screen.

jeff
'95 Mitsubishi Spyder VR-4
'01 Chevrolet Silverado HD Duramax


- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Donald Ashby" <dashbyiii@earthlink.net>
To: "team3s" <Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2002 1:11 AM
Subject: Team3S: Data Logging


> What data logger would you personally suggest using, please point out
> benefits of using your favorite over some other one. The 2 major ones I'm
> looking at are pocket logger, and TMO.
> Benefits of pocket logger, small compact, view 12 sensor values at a time,
> graphing
> Downside of pocket logger, requires a palm pilot. Palms don't have THAT
much
> memory
>
> Benefits of TMO: Monitor just about everything at once with very high
> sampling rate and large storage capacity (laptop has lots of memory)
> Downside of TMO: Heard there is no customer support, and the guy who makes
> them has all but dropped off the face of the earth, and requires having a
> laptop onboard to datalog.
>
> Thanks for your help guys, one last thing is that I CAN get a TMO if I
> decide it is better then pocket logger, so don't worry about not being
able
> to order them, or back order or whatever.
> Donald Ashby
> '93 3000GT VR-4
> Member #4909

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Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2002 02:19:01 -0400
From: "Philip V. Glazatov" <gphilip@umich.edu>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Went to the dragstrip today...

You are probably right. But I want to know for how long the leaded gas
could be used without serious consequences.

I am also interested in this because I once used up 10 gallons of leaded
gas by mistake. Do I need to get new O2 sensors now?

Philip

At 02:04 6/16/2002, Geoff Mohler wrote:
>Is it worth the hassle or cost?
>
>Nope.
>
>On Sun, 16 Jun 2002, Philip V. Glazatov wrote:
>
> > Dang! These are excellent times for 14 psi!
> >
> > What about the LEADED 110 octane. How long can you run it before the O2
> > sensors or catalysts go south?

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Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2002 23:30:40 -0700 (PDT)
From: Geoff Mohler <gemohler@www.speedtoys.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Went to the dragstrip today...

Not now..no..but keep doing it..and bank on it.
On Sun, 16 Jun 2002, Philip V. Glazatov wrote:

> You are probably right. But I want to know for how long the leaded gas
> could be used without serious consequences.
>
> I am also interested in this because I once used up 10 gallons of leaded
> gas by mistake. Do I need to get new O2 sensors now?
>
> Philip
>
> At 02:04 6/16/2002, Geoff Mohler wrote:
> >Is it worth the hassle or cost?
> >
> >Nope.
> >
> >On Sun, 16 Jun 2002, Philip V. Glazatov wrote:
> >
> > > Dang! These are excellent times for 14 psi!
> > >
> > > What about the LEADED 110 octane. How long can you run it before the O2
> > > sensors or catalysts go south?

- ---
Geoff Mohler
Lots of cars..and race them all.  Dont you?

Got Brakes?   I've got savings!
Porterfield parts catalog online now at http://www.speedtoys.com

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Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2002 23:26:10 -0700
From: "dakken" <dougusmagnus@attbi.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Thanks to all and a quick question (AVCR)

> My experience with tuning the AVC-R was quite different. I had problems
> with getting it to learn when my duty cycle was too low for the desired
> boost. I had to manually raise the duty cycles to enable the learning.
> Right now my duty cycles are between 70% and 80% and my boost setpoint is
> only 0.9 kg/cm^2.


I am starting to wonder if this has anything to do with the way the solenoid
is mounted.  I have mine mounted in a very unusual way.  I mounted it on the
fuse box.  I have the hose from the Y pipe to the solenoid.  From the
solenoid it splits to the front turbo and to the hard pipe that goes to the
rear turbo solenoid.  Nothing is connected in back except for the rear turbo
solenoid.

I know most people mount theirs on the washer fluid bottle or somewhere else
in the rear.

I have my boost sensor mounted on the passenger side strut tower right next
to the air filter.  I T'ed off of the blow off valve for the sensor.

Doug
92 Stealth RT TT
Apexi AVC-R, Apexi SAFC, K&N Filter, DN Downpipe, Custom 3" cat back, high
flow cat, Walboro 341 fuel pump, Stillen cross drilled rotors, 3SX SS
braided brake lines and gutted pre-cats.

Soon to come in next 2 weeks:
DSM 450 cc injectors, Direct Hits ignition system, a front exhaust manifold
that doesn't have a *&^#@! crack in it.

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Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2002 02:36:55 -0400
From: "Philip V. Glazatov" <gphilip@umich.edu>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Thanks to all and a quick question (AVCR)

At 02:26 6/16/2002, dakken wrote:
>I am starting to wonder if this has anything to do with the way the solenoid
>is mounted.  I have mine mounted in a very unusual way.  I mounted it on the
>fuse box.  I have the hose from the Y pipe to the solenoid.  From the
>solenoid it splits to the front turbo and to the hard pipe that goes to the
>rear turbo solenoid.  Nothing is connected in back except for the rear turbo
>solenoid.

Could be that too. Your hoses must be really long. Mine are no longer than
those that go to the stock solenoid, maybe 3" maximum.

You are getting more boost than Joshua when the AVC-R is off (0.45 bar vs.
0.35 bar). This means that your solenoid has to work less hard to raise the
boost.

I need to turn off mine and see what I am getting.

Philip

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Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2002 02:38:39 -0700
From: "Bradford J. Gay" <bradfordjgay@charter.net>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Thanks to all and a quick question (AVCR)

Nice to see I'm not the only one having issues with the AVC-R.  My
problem is lack of the solenoid even working.  Mine's mounted on the
passenger side strut tower.  According to the AVC-R, the solenoid is
being used 0.0%.  It looks wired up all right, so I can't figure out
what's going on.  I'm going to just redo it, but if anyone has any
suggestions, I'm open for them.  Thanks.

- -Brad
 97 VR-4

- -----Original Message-----
From: owner-team3s@team3s.com [mailto:owner-team3s@team3s.com] On Behalf
Of Philip V. Glazatov
Sent: Saturday, June 15, 2002 11:37 PM
To: team3s@team3s.com
Subject: Re: Team3S: Thanks to all and a quick question (AVCR)

At 02:26 6/16/2002, dakken wrote:
>I am starting to wonder if this has anything to do with the way the
>solenoid is mounted.  I have mine mounted in a very unusual way.  I
>mounted it on the fuse box.  I have the hose from the Y pipe to the
>solenoid.  From the solenoid it splits to the front turbo and to the
>hard pipe that goes to the rear turbo solenoid.  Nothing is connected
>in back except for the rear turbo solenoid.

Could be that too. Your hoses must be really long. Mine are no longer
than
those that go to the stock solenoid, maybe 3" maximum.

You are getting more boost than Joshua when the AVC-R is off (0.45 bar
vs.
0.35 bar). This means that your solenoid has to work less hard to raise
the
boost.

I need to turn off mine and see what I am getting.

Philip

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Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2002 07:51:34 EDT
From: M3000GTSL84@aol.com
Subject: Team3S: Seatbelt problem

Hi guys -

I have an annoying and sometimes very serious problem on my car.  I will
sometimes lean foward while driving for whatever reason. When i return to a
normal position,  My seatbelt wont retract, it just stays limp. The only way
to fix it is to retract it al the way into the track. Trying to accomplish
this at 65 MPH can sometimes be a challenge.  I have the seatbelt pads on
them, but im positive that doesnt affect the belt itself. Does anyone else
have this problem, and how can i fix it? I always thought that when you brake
hard enough the car will pull the belts tight on you.

thank you for the help'

- -mike
97 SL
Infinity 3 1/2's,
6 1/2's,
K&N FIPK,
DN Intake pipe

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Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2002 10:02:20 -0400
From: "Joshua G. Prince" <joshua@unconundrum.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Thanks to all and a quick question (AVCR)

I know in the instructions they said it was very important to mount the
pressure sensor with the nipple facing downward.  I mounted mine right
off the side of the metal battery plate.  I installed the solenoid on a
flat area right after the battery, close to the firewall.  My hose runs
are definitely not very long.  When you look at the SOL monitor value,
have you given the car gas while looking at it?  I am sorry that may
sound dumb, just wanted to make sure
 
Joshua Prince
97 1/2 Fly Yellow Hummer Convertible
3SI#0136
Microsoft Certified System Engineer
Joshua@Unconundrum.com
 
- -----Original Message-----
From: Bradford J. Gay [mailto:bradfordjgay@charter.net]
Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2002 5:39 AM
To: team3s@team3s.com
Subject: RE: Team3S: Thanks to all and a quick question (AVCR)
 
Nice to see I'm not the only one having issues with the AVC-R.  My
problem is lack of the solenoid even working.  Mine's mounted on the
passenger side strut tower.  According to the AVC-R, the solenoid is
being used 0.0%.  It looks wired up all right, so I can't figure out
what's going on.  I'm going to just redo it, but if anyone has any
suggestions, I'm open for them.  Thanks.

- -Brad
 97 VR-4

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Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2002 09:22:56 -0500
From: "merritt@cedar-rapids.net" <merritt@cedar-rapids.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Help!!!!!!

Welcome to the mysterious VR4 vent leak. It comes out the vent at the top of the tranny, and there ain't a dang thing you can do about it. My brand new Mitsu replacement tranny started leaking 30 days after the install, and Mitsu took it apart and installed a "fix" that lasted about one day. They just shake their head at the dealership and say that they did what Mitsu said to do, and the warranty doesn't cover any more fixes. I just gotta live with the puddle under the car.

It gets a lot worse when you drive the car hard, as in open tracking.

Rich/slow old poop

At 04:24 PM 6/15/02 -0400, Anthony & Susan wrote:
>Listeners,
>Just had my transmission replaced. It's from Kormex. Now I have a oil leak
>which I can't locate. I don't think it's the trans itself. The oil keeps
>collecting at the bottom of the transfer case. I check all 3 plugs and they
>were dry. I know it's coming from above but with all the nooks and crannies
>I can't seem to locate it. O

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Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2002 11:44:01 -0400
From: "Dan Johnson" <hiimdan74@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Seatbelt problem

You might want to try the Armor All trick.  Basically you pull the seatbelts
all the way out, then spray the very end part enough to get it really wet.
Then just retract the belt.  It is supposed to run off the belt and hit the
mechanism and remove all the crud that's built up.  A harder way would be to
remove the rear seat back and bottom and then remove the side panel.  Then
you've got access to the belt mechanism and can actually see what the
problem is, and clean it up.
Best Regards,
Dan Johnson

- ----- Original Message -----
From: <M3000GTSL84@aol.com>
To: <team3s@team3s.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2002 7:51 AM
Subject: Team3S: Seatbelt problem

> Hi guys -
>
> I have an annoying and sometimes very serious problem on my car.  I will
> sometimes lean foward while driving for whatever reason. When i return to
a
> normal position,  My seatbelt wont retract, it just stays limp. The only
way
> to fix it is to retract it al the way into the track. Trying to accomplish
> this at 65 MPH can sometimes be a challenge.  I have the seatbelt pads on
> them, but im positive that doesnt affect the belt itself. Does anyone else
> have this problem, and how can i fix it? I always thought that when you
brake
> hard enough the car will pull the belts tight on you.
>
> thank you for the help'
>
> -mike
> 97 SL
> Infinity 3 1/2's,
> 6 1/2's,
> K&N FIPK,
> DN Intake pipe

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Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2002 11:48:26 -0400
From: "Joshua G. Prince" <joshua@unconundrum.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Thanks to all and a quick question (AVCR)

I think I may have a more severe problem.  I hooked everything back up
stock, the way the diagram shows on the hood and I am only seeing
.28-.32 kg/cm2 in first and second.  I have a dual turbo timer boost
gauge and the apexi avc-r are both reading the same boost level.  Is
there anyway to determine if one of the turbos has gone?  And if so, can
I figure out which of the two it is?  Thanks for any info.
 
Joshua Prince
97 1/2 Fly Yellow Hummer Convertible
3SI#0136
Microsoft Certified System Engineer
Joshua@Unconundrum.com
 
- -----Original Message-----
From: Bradford J. Gay [mailto:bradfordjgay@charter.net]
Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2002 5:39 AM
To: team3s@team3s.com
Subject: RE: Team3S: Thanks to all and a quick question (AVCR)
 
Nice to see I'm not the only one having issues with the AVC-R.  My
problem is lack of the solenoid even working.  Mine's mounted on the
passenger side strut tower.  According to the AVC-R, the solenoid is
being used 0.0%.  It looks wired up all right, so I can't figure out
what's going on.  I'm going to just redo it, but if anyone has any
suggestions, I'm open for them.  Thanks.

- -Brad
 97 VR-4

- -----Original Message-----
From: owner-team3s@team3s.com [ mailto:owner-team3s@team3s.com
<mailto:owner-team3s@team3s.com> ] On Behalf
Of Philip V. Glazatov
Sent: Saturday, June 15, 2002 11:37 PM
To: team3s@team3s.com
Subject: Re: Team3S: Thanks to all and a quick question (AVCR)


At 02:26 6/16/2002, dakken wrote:
>I am starting to wonder if this has anything to do with the way the
>solenoid is mounted.  I have mine mounted in a very unusual way.  I
>mounted it on the fuse box.  I have the hose from the Y pipe to the
>solenoid.  From the solenoid it splits to the front turbo and to the
>hard pipe that goes to the rear turbo solenoid.  Nothing is connected
>in back except for the rear turbo solenoid.

Could be that too. Your hoses must be really long. Mine are no longer
than
those that go to the stock solenoid, maybe 3" maximum.

You are getting more boost than Joshua when the AVC-R is off (0.45 bar
vs.
0.35 bar). This means that your solenoid has to work less hard to raise
the
boost.

I need to turn off mine and see what I am getting.

Philip

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Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2002 12:17:56 -0400
From: "Joshua G. Prince" <joshua@unconundrum.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Thanks to all and a quick question (AVCR)

I forgot to ask, is there anything that could have come lose or come
undone when they installed the new transmission?  The transmission was
installed about a month ago, and I have been without a boost controller
since then because I uninstalled the HKS so they wouldn't give me shit
about performance parts hurting the trans.  Thanks again for any and all
assistance
 
Joshua Prince
97 1/2 Fly Yellow Hummer Convertible
3SI#0136
Microsoft Certified System Engineer
Joshua@Unconundrum.com
 
- -----Original Message-----
From: Bradford J. Gay [mailto:bradfordjgay@charter.net]
Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2002 5:39 AM
To: team3s@team3s.com
Subject: RE: Team3S: Thanks to all and a quick question (AVCR)
 
Nice to see I'm not the only one having issues with the AVC-R.  My
problem is lack of the solenoid even working.  Mine's mounted on the
passenger side strut tower.  According to the AVC-R, the solenoid is
being used 0.0%.  It looks wired up all right, so I can't figure out
what's going on.  I'm going to just redo it, but if anyone has any
suggestions, I'm open for them.  Thanks.

- -Brad
 97 VR-4

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Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2002 17:17:57 +0000
From: mjannusch@attbi.com
Subject: Re: Team3S: Went to the dragstrip today...

> Dang! These are excellent times for 14 psi!

Thanks, I was hoping to boost a lot higher than 14 psi,
but something just wouldn't let it happen.  I'll be
looking at the HKS and testing for boost leaks soon.

> What about the LEADED 110 octane. How long can you
> run it before the O2 sensors or catalysts go south?

My car doesn't have cats anymore, and probably a couple
tankfuls of leaded is enough to seriously degrade the
O2 sensors.  That's certainly the drawback.  If I
would've known I'd be limited to that low of boost I
would've just ran 93 octane.

- -Matt
'95 3000GT Spyder VR4

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Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2002 11:35:36 -0600
From: Desert Fox <bigfoot@simmgene.com>
Subject: Team3S: Jet V-Force

Anybody tried one of these Jet V-Force Power Control Modules? It is supposed
to do ignition advance, spark optimization, etc...

"V-Force (Imports)

The JET V-Force Power Control Modules (PCM) uses the same computer tuning
technology found in JETS popular domestic tuning products. A 20Mhz RISC
microprocessor optimizes the ignition spark advance and recalibrates the
fuel map for optimum horsepower and acceleration.
Modified ignition curve!
Recalibrated air/fuel ratio for maximum performance!
Improved 1/4 mile E.T.S.!
LED read out!
On/Off override switch!"

Advertised 25-30hp gain...

- --
Paul/.
95 black 3000GT VR-4
98 VFR800F, TBR aluminum hi exit
formerly reasonable and prudent

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Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2002 10:50:44 -0700
From: "dakken" <dougusmagnus@attbi.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Thanks to all and a quick question (AVCR)

> I think I may have a more severe problem.  I hooked everything back up
> stock, the way the diagram shows on the hood and I am only seeing
> .28-.32 kg/cm2 in first and second.  I have a dual turbo timer boost
> gauge and the apexi avc-r are both reading the same boost level.  Is
> there anyway to determine if one of the turbos has gone?  And if so, can
> I figure out which of the two it is?  Thanks for any info.

.28-.32 kg/cm2 is extremely low for having the stock boost solenoid hooked
up.  That is abour 4-4.5 psi according to this pressure conversion web page:
http://www.ex.ac.uk/cimt/dictunit/ccpress.htm

Stock boost is around 11 psi for a 2nd gen car and 9 psi for a 1st gen.
With no boost solenoid and just the waste gate solenoids working, boost
should be between 5-7 psi.

I would check all of my IC piping to see if any of them are loose first.
Then check the stock solenoid to see if it is working.  Just try to blow
through it with no voltage, then apply 12 volts to it and try it again.
With 12 volts applied, the solenoid should be open.

Doug
92 Stealth RT TT
Apexi AVC-R, Apexi SAFC, K&N Filter, DN Downpipe, Custom 3" cat back, high
flow cat, Walboro 341 fuel pump, Stillen cross drilled rotors, 3SX SS
braided brake lines and gutted pre-cats.

Soon to come in next 2 weeks:
DSM 450 cc injectors, Direct Hits ignition system, a front exhaust manifold
that doesn't have a *&^#@! crack in it.

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Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2002 11:43:24 -0700
From: Rich Fowler <richfowler2@cox.net>
Subject: Team3S:  Broken piston/Ceramic Coating Pics

See the links below for pictures of the broken Ross piston (wrist pin),
ceramic coated pistons, and block after about 12K miles.  I was surprised
how much carbon buildup was on the pistons and heads, especially with the
methanol/water injection.  You can see the rod was heated and the pin
pressed through the rod.  According to the pro engine builders, this is the
easier assembly method, but not as good as floating the rod on the wrist pin
and using retainers.

[approx. 80-90K each]

http://homepage.mac.com/stealthracer2002/.Pictures/wristpin.jpg

http://homepage.mac.com/stealthracer2002/.Pictures/coating.jpg

http://homepage.mac.com/stealthracer2002/.Pictures/head.jpg

http://homepage.mac.com/stealthracer2002/.Pictures/head2.jpg

http://homepage.mac.com/stealthracer2002/.Pictures/block.jpg

Rich

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Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2002 14:52:04 -0400
From: "Anthony & Susan" <jetbike@worldlynx.net>
Subject: FW: Team3S: Help!!!!!!

Listeners,
Crawled under the car today after driving and more oil. After inspecting the
top of the transfer case with a mirror it looks dry. It looks like it's
either the trans main output seal or the transfer case main input seal. It's
a Kormex trans. & case. Has anyone had problems with leaks after a rebuilt
has been put in? If so which is most problematic? Please say the transfer
case. Thanx in advance.

Regards
Anthony
93 Stealth R/T Twin Turbo


- -----Original Message-----
From: owner-team3s@team3s.com [mailto:owner-team3s@team3s.com]On Behalf
Of merritt@cedar-rapids.net
Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2002 10:23 AM
To: Anthony & Susan; Stealth Mailing List (E-mail)
Subject: Re: Team3S: Help!!!!!!


Welcome to the mysterious VR4 vent leak. It comes out the vent at the top of
the tranny, and there ain't a dang thing you can do about it. My brand new
Mitsu replacement tranny started leaking 30 days after the install, and
Mitsu took it apart and installed a "fix" that lasted about one day. They
just shake their head at the dealership and say that they did what Mitsu
said to do, and the warranty doesn't cover any more fixes. I just gotta live
with the puddle under the car.

It gets a lot worse when you drive the car hard, as in open tracking.

Rich/slow old poop

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Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2002 15:35:10 -0500
From: "David Hacker" <admin@01010110.net>
Subject: Team3S: Tan Cloth Driver Seat

I am in need of a driver side tan cloth seat.  I
have looked everywhere and cant find a good one. 
If anyone knows someone who has one for sale I
will take it.  I live in texas so anywhere Texas,
Kansas, OK, New Mexico  ill drive to pick them up

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Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2002 16:44:19 -0400
From: "Joshua G. Prince" <joshua@unconundrum.com>
Subject: Team3S: Waste gate Solenoid and EGR valve wiring help!

Alright, thanks to your idea, I think I am making progress.  The waste
gate solenoid works how it supposed to.  With the vehicle off, I cannot
blow through.  With the vehicle running or power to the unit, I can
easily blow through it.  So while I was there I checked the EGR valve.
Here is when I found some weird things.  The EGR would not let me blow
through it with the vehicle on nor off.  So I took the unit out of the
car and hooked it up to power and ground, I heard a click and could
easily blow through it.  So I checked the power coming and grounds and
this is what I found:
 
Waste Gate Solenoid:  Has 2 black wires and one green wire coming in.
With the engine completely off and key turned off, the blacks are
grounds and I get nothing from the green.  With the key turned to the ON
position, the blacks become power and the green does not show up as a
ground or power.  With the engine turned over, the blacks are power and
the green a ground.  Now this seems strange to me why the black would be
ground and then turn to powers.  Usually everyone uses black for ground
but maybe they decided to use green instead.  I donno.
 
The EGR valve with the engine and key turned off, blacks are grounds
once again and the white wire does not show as a ground or power.  With
the key in the ON position, the blacks become powers, like the waste
gate actuator wires, and the white wire is neither ground nor power.
With the engine on, the blacks are still powers and the white...still
has nothing.  So I am assuming at the bare minimum that the white wire
was cut somewhere and no longer a ground so my EGR valve is not turning
on and not allowing anything through.
 
However, I am worried that it may be worse then that due to the black
being grounds and then turning to powers.  I have looked through the
service manual and it seems to state that position of the black wires
should be a ground, but I am not 100% sure.  It is on page 13a-169 of
the service manual.  I would really appreciate if someone could check
and see if their black wires are acting as positives with the vehicle on
and negatives with the vehicle off.  If that is the case, I assume I
just have to ground the white wire and the egr valve and everything
should work properly.  I appreciate any help.  Thanks again
 
Joshua Prince
97 1/2 Fly Yellow Hummer Convertible
3SI#0136
Microsoft Certified System Engineer
Joshua@Unconundrum.com
 
- -----Original Message-----
From: dakken [mailto:dougusmagnus@attbi.com]
Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2002 1:51 PM
To: Joshua G. Prince; team3s@team3s.com
Subject: Re: Team3S: Thanks to all and a quick question (AVCR)
 
 
> I think I may have a more severe problem.  I hooked everything back up
> stock, the way the diagram shows on the hood and I am only seeing
> .28-.32 kg/cm2 in first and second.  I have a dual turbo timer boost
> gauge and the apexi avc-r are both reading the same boost level.  Is
> there anyway to determine if one of the turbos has gone?  And if so,
can
> I figure out which of the two it is?  Thanks for any info.

.28-.32 kg/cm2 is extremely low for having the stock boost solenoid
hooked
up.  That is abour 4-4.5 psi according to this pressure conversion web
page:
http://www.ex.ac.uk/cimt/dictunit/ccpress.htm
<http://www.ex.ac.uk/cimt/dictunit/ccpress.htm>

Stock boost is around 11 psi for a 2nd gen car and 9 psi for a 1st gen.
With no boost solenoid and just the waste gate solenoids working, boost
should be between 5-7 psi.

I would check all of my IC piping to see if any of them are loose first.
Then check the stock solenoid to see if it is working.  Just try to blow
through it with no voltage, then apply 12 volts to it and try it again.
With 12 volts applied, the solenoid should be open.

Doug
92 Stealth RT TT
Apexi AVC-R, Apexi SAFC, K&N Filter, DN Downpipe, Custom 3" cat back,
high
flow cat, Walboro 341 fuel pump, Stillen cross drilled rotors, 3SX SS
braided brake lines and gutted pre-cats.

Soon to come in next 2 weeks:
DSM 450 cc injectors, Direct Hits ignition system, a front exhaust
manifold
that doesn't have a *&^#@! crack in it.

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Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2002 20:56:30 +0000
From: mjannusch@attbi.com
Subject: Re: Team3S: Waste gate Solenoid and EGR valve wiring help!

> With the engine on, the blacks are still powers and
> the white...still has nothing.  So I am assuming at
> the bare minimum that the white wire was cut
> somewhere and no longer a ground so my EGR valve
> is not turning on and not allowing anything through.

That's how it is supposed to work.  The ECU controls
the solenoids by either linking the solenoid to ground
or not.  If you aren't seeing ground on the white wire,
then the ECU isn't trying to turn on the EGR solenoid.

> However, I am worried that it may be worse then that
> due to the black being grounds and then turning to
> powers.  I have looked through the service manual
> and it seems to state that position of the black
> wires should be a ground, but I am not 100% sure.
> It is on page 13a-169 of the service manual.  I
> would really appreciate if someone could check
> and see if their black wires are acting as
> positives with the vehicle on and negatives with
> the vehicle off.  If that is the case, I assume I
> just have to ground the white wire and the egr
> valve and everything should work properly.  I
> appreciate any help.  Thanks again

If you measure anywhere in the solenoid circuits you
are going to see voltage.  Those circuits don't act
like positive/negative - more like a lamp in the middle
of a circuit - there's voltage everywhere in the
circuit except at the ground (which is switchable
on/off by the ECU).  Same setup for both the factory
boost control solenoid and the EGR solenoid, fuel
pressure solenoid, etc.

- -Matt
'95 3000GT Spyder VR4

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Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2002 16:13:18 -0500
From: "cody" <overclck@satx.rr.com>
Subject: Team3S: Black leather seats for sale

Selling newly recovered (6 months) leather/vinyl seats.  The leather
used is very soft and supple, and feels like what you would find in a
new Mercedes.  The leather portions of the seats are the centers where
your butt goes and the center of the back.  The sides are recovered with
heavy duty vinyl.  The contrast of the semi-gloss vinyl and the flat
black leather is a good look.  All new padding was used, and the side
supports are nice and firm.  The recovering was done professionally.
The seats are in like new condition, except for one scratch on the
forward area of one seat.  The scratch is not visible with a camera, but
is about 3/8" wide by 4" long or so.  It is not discolored, but you can
tell where someones shoe or something rubbed up against it too hard
right there.  As far as the seating surfaces, everything is still like
new.  The only other flaw is the lever on the side of the passenger seat
works, but the small plastic handle is missing.  I imagine this can be
replaced for less than $10.  At any rate, it has no effect on the
operation of the seat.  The passenger seat also has a small piece cut
off the underside of it, letting it slide farther back than stock
adjustment allows.  This was done to provide room for an amplifier under
the seat, and has no other effect on its operation.

Not sure what they are worth, but would like to get at least $400 out of
the pair, e-mail with offers.

- -Cody

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Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2002 15:16:09 -0700
From: "Bradford J. Gay" <bradfordjgay@charter.net>
Subject: Team3S: AVC-R again

Well, now it seems to be working all fine.  Not sure why it was being
such a butt, but oh well.  I do have the anti-lock light on,
however...But, I've got two more weeks until the next drag races, so
hopefully, it'll all be just fine.  Thanks for all the help, guys (and
gals).

- -Brad
1997 Caracas Red VR-4
13.505@103.63 w/o AVC-R
1999 Front End, Headlights & Spoiler, 19" Axis Se7en wheels wrapped with
Toyo T1-S Proxes 245/35ZR19, DN Performance Intercooler & Intake Pipes,
Magnecor KV85 Plug Wires, Blitz Supersound BOV, Apex'i AVC-R, BOZZ Speed
Dual Cannon Exhaust, Indiglo Gauge Faces, GReddy Electronic Gauges,
Kenwood Z828 Receiver, 4-8" Diamond Audio Subwoofers powered by a
Eclipse 33230 amp & Boston Acoustic 6x9s

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Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2002 18:29:09 -0500
From: "Alex Pedenko" <apedenko@earthlink.net>
Subject: Team3S: 60k

Okay, I got the timing belt off, everything was great - all the timing
marks were lined up, the sprockets didn't move when I took the belt off.
Next thing I know, my hand slips while taking out the water pump, and
hits the right-most sprocket causing it to move about 45 degrees. I
didn't hit it that hard, it was more like it was perched at a very fine
equilibrium and once I hit it, it just recoiled. I grabbed a socket and
turned it back to the mark, where it stayed, and then upon my next
fumble, the same thing happened. I'm rather apprehensive about turning
one camshaft back and forth like this. I've left it where it is until I
put the tbelt back on, but I'd like to know if I'm causing any damage by
all this motion down there.

One other question - the timing belt tensioner had some visible rust on
the outside. I've long suspected that my water pump was leaking, but
didn't see any coolant when I took off the covers. Is this a sign? Is
the pump leaking?

Thanks,

Alex.

'95 VR4

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