Team3S: 3000GT & Stealth    Wednesday, May 8 2002    Volume 01 : Number 834




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Date: Mon, 6 May 2002 22:20:40 -0700
From: "BlackLight" <BlackLight@Planetice.net>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Lotek triple gage pod, needs some more work....

Yup, certainly can. My Autometer A/F gauge is upside down :)

Matt Nelson
1994 RT TT
BlackLight@Planetice.Net
www.BlackLight.5u.com

- -----Original Message-----
From: owner-team3s@team3s.com [mailto:owner-team3s@team3s.com] On Behalf
Of Darren Schilberg
Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 8:00 PM
To: Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st
Subject: RE: Team3S: Lotek triple gage pod, needs some more work....

John -- I have not seen a picture yet of this gauge pod (Lotek) and
missed East Coast because of a track event at Pocono.

What is the problem with the triple gauge pod.  It doesn't come
pre-filled with gauges does it?  If not then couldn't the driver orient
the gauges so that the top 1/3 is the useless part (usually between 5
o'clock and 7 o'clock on the gauge where the name and units are listed)?

For example, I have my Autometer Z-Series boost gauge mounted all out of
whack but I know what the units are and don't need to see the
manufacturer's name.  I have 0 psi at 12 o'clock (top dead center) and
anything to the right is boost and anything to the left is vacuum.  No
sense orienting it how the words are cuz at a quick glance on the track
you don't want to have to remember that at the 1 o'clock position is the
0 psi mark.

Same with water temps, oil temps, pressures, etc. when mounted anywhere
else.  12 o'clock is always "normal operating parameter" so anything to
the right on a quick glance tells you that gauge is high or hot and
anything to the left is low or cold.

Agree that some gauges do not lend well to this.  Maybe an Air/Fuel
gauge that might want to be more rich than in the middle or dual EGT
gauges that might need oriented vertically.  You see my point though.

- --Flash!

- -----Original Message-----
From: John Monnin
Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 22:34
 
The Lotek triple gage pod, needs some more work, I saw a car with it
at the East coast gathering and the gauge orientation is screwed up. 
The gauges are so close together vertically that you can not see the
top 1/3 of the back 2 gages.

Lotek said its a bad windshield angle so tough luck.

I would avoid the Lotek Single gage pod just install a Autometer dual
gage pod and a second single gage pod and acutuallty be able to read
your gages.

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Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 06:53:43 -0500
From: "Black, Dave (ICT)" <dblai@allstate.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Lotek triple gage pod, needs some more work....

Darren,

They don't come with gauges.  I purchased one with the group buy back in
March but I'm thinking of selling it now because I can't fit a 60mm Greddy
EGT gauge in it.

Dave 95VR4
http://www.daveblack.net

What is the problem with the triple gauge pod.  It doesn't come
pre-filled with gauges does it?  If not then couldn't the driver orient
the gauges so that the top 1/3 is the useless part (usually between 5
o'clock and 7 o'clock on the gauge where the name and units are listed)?

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Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 08:43:54 -0400
From: pvg1@daimlerchrysler.com
Subject: RE: Team3S: Wanted, set of stock 1st gen front calipers

Flash, I got those seals yesterday, thanks. They came in a kit with the
caliper piston seals and were $26 each - OUCH!

Philip

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Can a Stealth wear 3000GT calipers and vice versa?  If so then I know
Philip was waiting for dust seals for his stock front calipers after the
Gingerman track trick.  I don't want to part these out but if I have to
then let me know.

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Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 09:11:17 -0600
From: "Floyd, Jim" <Jim_Floyd@maxtor.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Lotek triple gage pod, needs some more work....

A gentleman named Adam Fortier is offering gauge pods that will hold
60 mm.
He is copied on this E-mail if you would like to contact him.

- -----Original Message-----
From: Black, Dave (ICT) [mailto:dblai@allstate.com]
Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2002 5:54 AM
To: Team3s (E-mail)
Subject: RE: Team3S: Lotek triple gage pod, needs some more work....

Darren,

They don't come with gauges.  I purchased one with the group buy back in
March but I'm thinking of selling it now because I can't fit a 60mm Greddy
EGT gauge in it.

Dave 95VR4
http://www.daveblack.net

What is the problem with the triple gauge pod.  It doesn't come
pre-filled with gauges does it?  If not then couldn't the driver orient
the gauges so that the top 1/3 is the useless part (usually between 5
o'clock and 7 o'clock on the gauge where the name and units are listed)?

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Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 11:14:35 -0400
From: "Furman, Russell" <RFurman2@MassMutual.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Lotek triple gage pod, needs some more work....

Are they double or triple? and full pillar replacement or just bolt on?


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Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 09:33:15 -0600
From: "Floyd, Jim" <Jim_Floyd@maxtor.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Lotek triple gage pod, needs some more work....

Full pillar replacement.
Triple for sure, double you will need to check with him.

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Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 11:23:43 -0500
From: "Oskar Persson" <osk@attbi.com>
Subject: Team3S: OT: Parts for sale

Doing some spring cleaning and found some parts that I don't need.  In
compliance with the list rules I ask that you please reply off the list.  My
E-mail is osk@attbi.com.

Pictures can be seen here: http://photos.yahoo.com/oep_99

- - 1st gen steering wheel without airbag.  Poor condition, but functional.
Best offer

- - 2nd gen steering wheel without airbag.  Beautiful condition.  $50 obo.

- - 3 '99 VR-4 18" six spoke chrome wheels.  Damaged, in need of repair.  Best
offer.

- - Clear corners for 2nd gen Stealth (94-96).  Including orange bulbs.  $100
obo.

- - 2 Nitto NT555 245/40/ZR18 93W.  Approx 50% remaining tread.  $125 obo.

- - OEM 6 disk CD magazine with clear sleeve.  $20 obo.

- - 4 OEM 17x8.5 Stealth TT rims from a '94.  Perfectly round and true.
Average condition.  Excellent as track wheels.  Have been measured at a race
only tire shop for roundness and balance.  Fits all 3/S cars. $400 obo.
(These are currently on hold for another list member until 5/8)

- - Brand new, never used, still in plastic tan Stealth floor mats.  They are
the light tan color used in 1991-1995.  No longer available from dealers.
Expecting a premium for these.  If interested E-mail me your best offer.

- - Complete light tan leather interior.  Everything in perfect condition.
Out of a '95 TT with 49K miles.  NO scuff marks on any of the side bolsters.
Will sell complete or partial interior.  E-mail me your needs and we can
discuss price for the parts you need.

Buyer pays for shipping.  I accept Pay Pal, money orders and personal
checks.  I'm located in Minnesota.

I can e-mail high resolution copies (large) of select pictures upon request.

Thanks,
Oskar
3SI #129

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Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 12:22:31 -0500
From: "John Monnin" <John.Monnin@3Si.zzn.com>
Subject: Team3S: R.E. Lotek 3 gage pod still needs some work

Racers are so damn practical:)
Sure you could twist the gages so that the useless part of the gage
was hidden but then you would have to explain to people over and over
that your gauges are twisted on purpose.  I am more shallow I want my
gauges to line up nice and pretty, then I might twist them at the
track so that anything past 12 o'clock is trouble.  Fortunately my
boost gauge is 15 psi straight up and down already. 

My point is that you have more options with the autometer dual pod
and an additional single pod, than with the Lotek 3-gage pod.   If I
find a picture I will post a link later.

John Monnin

Original message below.
>Date: Mon, 6 May 2002 22:59:43 -0400
>From: "Darren Schilberg" <dschilberg@pobox.com>
>.......
>What is the problem with the triple gauge pod.  It doesn't come
>pre-filled with gauges does it?  If not then couldn't the driver
>orient the gauges so that the top 1/3 is the useless part (usually
> between 5 o'clock and 7 o'clock on the gauge where the name and
> units are listed)?
> For example, I have my Autometer Z-Series boost gauge mounted all
> out of whack but I know what the units are and don't need to see
> the manufacturer's name.........

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Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 16:09:23 -0400
From: "Rodriguez, Elpidio   x35617d1" <x35617@exmail.usma.army.mil>
Subject: Team3S: Vitek or Magnecor?

Which set of wires is better, the Magnecor or Vitek Performance? I had never
heard of Vitek until I came up on a group buy going on for this. They retail
for $150 at their website and I saw them as low as $138 on other places.
With 20% discount they're offering, they come out to about the same price as
the magnecor ones. Anybody try out the vitek ones?

- -ROD

http://www.vitekperformance.com

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Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 15:48:52 -0600
From: "Donald Ashby" <dashbyiii@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Help! No guage lights!!

sorry thought i sent this in:
turns out that the tail light fuse had a hairline crack in it, replaced it
and everything lit up nice and pretty, this was after i saw that the guages
are wired thru that fuse. just thought i would post this so that if anyone
else has this happen they can fix it!
i think your guage lights also turn off if you blow a rear tail light from
looking at the wiring diagrams, could be wrong tho
- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Black, Dave (ICT)" <dblai@allstate.com>
To: "'Donald Ashby'" <dashbyiii@earthlink.net>
Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2002 12:27 PM
Subject: RE: Team3S: Help! No guage lights!!

> not to state the obvious, but...........
>
> maybe the dimmer is turned all the way down?  the simple things are
> sometimes overlooked.....I do that myself occasionally.
>
> Dave 95VR4
> http://www.daveblack.net
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Donald Ashby [mailto:dashbyiii@earthlink.net]
> Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 12:04 AM
> To: Team3S
> Subject: Team3S: Help! No guage lights!!
>
>
> Eghad! today i installed my new radio into the car, well everything works
> fine except my guage faces dont light up when i turn on the lgihts, and i
> cant get them to turn on any other way, heres what ive tried so far:
>
> 1) checked every fuse in the car, even the ones in engine compartment
> 2) checked the wiring on the radio, everything seems to work ok
> 3) checked the wiring on the dimmer switch, its getting power and routing
it
> thru
> 4) i blew the fuse on my amp, i dont think that is pertinant, but it might
> be...
> 5) installed a different bolt on the positive battery terminal, the
original
> one snapped when i unbolted it!!!
> 6) I had power cut to the car for nearly 3 hours
>
> with everything there done (not in that order) for some reason the guage
> faces dont light up, making it real tough to drive at night.
> a few other things that might help: all other interior lights are
> functioning, the ring around cigarette lighter lights up, ring around
> ignition lights up, driver side buttons light up, radio lights up, various
> lights in the guage cluster light up, such as brake being on and things
like
> that.
> HELP! im completly stumped here, could it be that i blew every one of
> the bulbs in the guages????
>
> Donald
> -93 3000GT VR-4

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Date: Tue, 07 May 2002 19:39:16 -0500
From: RJM <rjmsmail@swbell.net>
Subject: Team3S: Where to get the high pressure fuel guage attachment

Anyone know where to get the attachment/special tool part number
MD998709 to connect to the high pressure end of the fuel rail to check
the fuel pressure (then connect my fuel pressure guage to the other end)
for my 1994 3000gt SL?.  I've looked around a it.    I have 2 fuel
pressure guages with hoses long enough to tape to the windshield but
none with this "special tool" adapter.  Thanks guys.

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Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 18:23:49 -0700 (PDT)
From: Geoff Mohler <gemohler@www.speedtoys.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Where to get the high pressure fuel guage attachment

If you have the PN, cant the dealer get it?

- ---
Geoff Mohler

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Date: Tue, 07 May 2002 20:23:06 -0500
From: RJM <rjmsmail@swbell.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Where to get the high pressure fuel guage attachment

The dealer doesn't have that part nor a cross reference and told me it was not
available any longer.   I figured the fuel rail can't be that much different
for all of the 3000gt dual overhead cam engines, can it?  Do you all take your
cars to the dealer to check the fuel pressure?   Is there a name for this type
of special connector?   Thanks.
Bob

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Date: Tue, 07 May 2002 19:38:41 -0600
From: Desert Fox <bigfoot@simmgene.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Vitek or Magnecor?

I have a set of Crane Cam Firewire yellow wires. Anybody running these?

Everything I've read says that there is no noticeable difference in stock
wires vs. any others. Anybody care to comment to the contrary?

- --
Paul/.
95 black 3000GT VR-4
98 VFR800F, TBR aluminum hi exit
formerly reasonable and prudent

on 5/7/02 2:09 PM, Rodriguez, Elpidio   x35617d1 at
x35617@exmail.usma.army.mil scribbled:

> Which set of wires is better, the Magnecor or Vitek Performance? I had never
> heard of Vitek until I came up on a group buy going on for this. They retail
> for $150 at their website and I saw them as low as $138 on other places.
> With 20% discount they're offering, they come out to about the same price as
> the magnecor ones. Anybody try out the vitek ones?

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Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 20:07:23 -0600
From: "Donald Ashby" <dashbyiii@earthlink.net>
Subject: Team3S: Oil in intake piping, help please!

I decided to take a look into the intake path of my 93 VR-4 today, this was
after racing my friend's 95 Eagle Talon TSi. His Tallon has fairly bad
compression in 3 cylinders (110,105,95,95), and the only mod on his car is
an Injen intake. He was able to beat me twice out of the five times we
raced. The other 3 times he was so close to beating me that I would have
lost if I had launched any worse. So after racing him I figured that
something might be wrong with the car because it SHOULD be pulling much
harder than it is. After taking out the stock airbox I noticed that my air
filter was completly black and had a few things stuck in it, the second
thing I noticed was my honeycomb has a couple dings in it, blocking airflow
through a couple of the honeycombs. Finally after getting some of the
intercooler to intake piping off I noticed a lot of oil sitting inside the
pipes. Oil in the intake pipes is not good. There is also a little bit of
oil right after the MAS, in the piping leading to the turbos, not nearly as
much as was sitting in the IC pipes.

First question, what could be causing the oil in the piping? I'm guessing
here with my only background knowledge being from working on DSMs but could
an oil gasket be leaking, or could the turbo be going bad?

Second question, how bad is it to have a few dings in the lateral
honeycombs? Note the bends are not in the main honeycomb but only on the
left smaller honeycomb.

Third question, this has nothing to do with my main message, my third gear
grinds everytime I go into it, either if I have the clutch to the floor, or
just out enough to not be grabbing, also grinds downshifting or upshifting
at any rpm.

A little background info: 88k on entire car, bought car from dealership last
week, don't know if the 60k mile check up was performed will ask dealership
tomarrow.

Thanks in advance

Donald
93 3000GT VR-4
(many mods in the mail)

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Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 22:16:10 -0400
From: "Darren Schilberg" <dschilberg@pobox.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Oil in intake piping, help please!

Donald - Welcome to the list and you've come to the right place.

First and foremost, take the car back to the dealer and insist that they
replace the 3rd gear synchro and any other synchro that grinds when you
shift into it.  One week after purchase easily counts within the Lemon
Law I believe so tell them that is not normal and they get to put in a
remfg tranny for free (which is close to $5,000 with parts and labor).
I hope you have a warranty on it if not a 30-day dealer warranty.

- --Flash!
1995 VR-4
www.schilberg.com

- -----Original Message-----
From: Donald Ashby
Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2002 22:07
 
First question, what could be causing the oil in the piping? I'm
guessing
here with my only background knowledge being from working on DSMs but
could
an oil gasket be leaking, or could the turbo be going bad?

Second question, how bad is it to have a few dings in the lateral
honeycombs? Note the bends are not in the main honeycomb but only on the
left smaller honeycomb.

Third question, this has nothing to do with my main message, my third
gear
grinds everytime I go into it, either if I have the clutch to the floor,
or
just out enough to not be grabbing, also grinds downshifting or
upshifting
at any rpm.

A little background info: 88k on entire car, bought car from dealership
last
week, don't know if the 60k mile check up was performed will ask
dealership
tomarrow.

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Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 19:28:44 -0700
From: "fastmax" <fastmax@cox.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Vitek or Magnecor?

Plug wires will result in improvement only if your stock wires are defective !!!
The pretty silicon aftermarket wires look nicer though !!!!

        Jim Berry
================================================
- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Desert Fox" <bigfoot@simmgene.com>


> I have a set of Crane Cam Firewire yellow wires. Anybody running these?
>
> Everything I've read says that there is no noticeable difference in stock
> wires vs. any others. Anybody care to comment to the contrary?
>
> --
> Paul/.
> on 5/7/02 2:09 PM, Rodriguez, Elpidio   x35617d1 at
> x35617@exmail.usma.army.mil scribbled:
>
> > Which set of wires is better, the Magnecor or Vitek Performance? I had never
> > heard of Vitek until I came up on a group buy going on for this. They retail
> > for $150 at their website and I saw them as low as $138 on other places.
> > With 20% discount they're offering, they come out to about the same price as
> > the magnecor ones. Anybody try out the vitek ones?

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Date: Tue, 07 May 2002 19:38:36 -0700
From: John Sheehan <Johns@KYSO.com>
Subject: Team3S: AC Problem #3

I guess nobody has any idea on what I should do! No responses!
I now have had a second place tell me the same thing They Think ? Only
now it would be $875.00. Can some body look up in their manual and let
me know if this is a part and were it is located ? Thank you !!!!! John

I have a AC problem on my 93 VR-4. Freon is good, checked all other
items as listed but it still blows standard air. So I took it to an AC
shop and they told me it was the AC control module and would cost
$1200.00 to replace. I don't think so !!!!!! Does this sound true? What
else can I check ? Where is the control module located ? Could it be in
the climate control temp sensor ?
I am at a loss until I get a manual ( same problems as others, on order
from dealer and now they say they can't get it anymore !) I will order
the CD for now.
                       Thank you !  John Sheehan
                                    93 VR-4

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Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 22:47:22 EDT
From: M3000GTSL84@aol.com
Subject: Team3S: Window seal ripped

The passenger side rubber window seal, on the inside of the door, seems to
have "ripped" off a little bit, so whenever i roll up the window, the seal
gets caught and is dragged up by the window.  Its not damaging in any way,
but i like to drive with the windows down, and after a year of it i cant take
it anymore! My local mitsu dealer wants 150$ to fix the problem. . .no thanx.
I thought perhaps i can do it by just ordering the part i need, then do it
myself. SO my question is, if i remove the inner door panel so that i can get
to the seal, then what must i do to put the new seal on? Does it just pop
right in or should i really give the job to Mitsu?
Any1 else have this problem?

- -mike
97 SL

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Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 21:03:08 -0600
From: "Donald Ashby" <dashbyiii@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Oil in intake piping, help please!

Alright, is there anything along the intake besides the turbo that can be
putting oil into the piping? There is a post in the archive about someone
having oil in their piping but it says he had a lot of oil pre rear turbo.
The car has a 60 day warenty from dealership, still in affect hopefully
since I got the car on tuesday last week.

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Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 20:03:43 -0700
From: "fastmax" <fastmax@cox.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S: AC Problem #3

I looked at the CD version of the manual and there are a dozen things that
need to be checked --- the control unit is located right below the control
panel. You need the manual to do the checks, there is too much info to
write it up in an email.

The check engine light can also show problems and stores failure codes.

        Jim Berry
==================================================
- ----- Original Message -----
From: "John Sheehan" <Johns@KYSO.com>
To: <team3s@stealth-3000gt.st>
Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2002 7:38 PM
Subject: Team3S: AC Problem #3

> I guess nobody has any idea on what I should do! No responses!
> I now have had a second place tell me the same thing They Think ? Only
> now it would be $875.00. Can some body look up in their manual and let
> me know if this is a part and were it is located ? Thank you !!!!! John
>
> I have a AC problem on my 93 VR-4. Freon is good, checked all other
> items as listed but it still blows standard air. So I took it to an AC
> shop and they told me it was the AC control module and would cost
> $1200.00 to replace. I don't think so !!!!!! Does this sound true? What
> else can I check ? Where is the control module located ? Could it be in
> the climate control temp sensor ?
> I am at a loss until I get a manual ( same problems as others, on order
> from dealer and now they say they can't get it anymore !) I will order
> the CD for now.
>                        Thank you !  John Sheehan
>                                     93 VR-4

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Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 22:44:00 -0500
From: "Matt Jannusch" <mjannusch@attbi.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Window seal ripped

> SO my question is, if i remove the inner door panel so that i can get
> to the seal, then what must i do to put the new seal on? Does it just pop
> right in or should i really give the job to Mitsu?
> Any1 else have this problem?

I replaced that seal on my car too.  It is easy once you get the inner door
trim off.  It basically just pulls out and then you insert the new seal into
the little protrusions in the door and reassemble.  Piece of cake...

- -Matt
'95 3000GT Spyder VR4

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Date: Wed, 8 May 2002 05:02:54 -0400
From: "Bill vp" <billvp@highstream.net>
Subject: Team3S: bad TOB cause slipping clutch?

Is this possible?  I have a bad throwout bearing apparently (it makes a
horrible racket except for when I push the clutch in), and my RPS Stage III
does not seem to grip well at all on launches.  I can't slip it at all or it
will not grab and keep pulling in 1st.  I can do a quick lift on the clutch
at certain high revs and it is fine, but I cannot do a ~3500 rpm slip-clutch
launch on it like I could with the factory one (although I have more mods
now than then).  So anyways, the question remains the same as in the
subject.

thanks for any replies,
Bill

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