Team3S: 3000GT & Stealth   Saturday, April 20 2002   Volume 01 : Number 817




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Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 15:58:09 -0400
From: Jeff.A.Williamson@jci.com
Subject: Team3S: re: Antenna mast

It's most likely that the bottom of the mast has corroded itself to the
housing. This has happened to me AND one of my 3S buddies. We both had to
remove the complete antenna assembly (mast, motor, and housing) from the
car, and literally pry, chip, and cut the mast loose from the housing using
a hammer and screwdriver. It destroys the old mast, but doesn't matter as
you're going to be replacing it anyway.

Hope this helps.

Jeff W.
'92 VR4
Belleville, MI


> -----Original Message-----
> From:     Wayne [SMTP:whietala@prodigy.net]
> Sent:     Thursday, April 18, 2002 3:53 PM
> To: team3S@stealth-3000gt.st
> Subject:  Team3S: Antenna mast
>
> O.K., so what is the trick to getting the old antenna mast out. I've read
> several places where it says "simply pull the mast out while the motor is
> pushing it up".
>
> Well, i've tried this on several different cars and the mast has NEVER
> come
> out.
>
> In the past, i just learned to live with the faulty antenna.
> Now i need to use my car cover, and MUST replace my mast or it will poke
a
>
> hole in my cover
>
> I pull on it as hard as i can, rotating it as i pull, and it simply won't
> come out.
>
> Yes, i have the trim cap and rubber removed.........

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Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 16:16:41 EDT
From: ThorHolth@aol.com
Subject: Team3S: low boost

Pete:

Sounds like you have a problem similar to one I had a few months ago.  Boost
solenoid control valve on the firewall. Mine functioned intermittently, than
died all together.  You then only go on the basic wastegate setting, which is
about 6-8 psi.  Very simple to check, its the one all the way to the right
(in the set of three on the left side of the compartment) as you face the
engine. Pull the solenoid out, and using a pair of test wires, blow through
one port as you connect the solenoid inputs to the car battery.  If you can't
blow through the ports when power is applied, the valve is bad and needs
replacement.

- -Thor

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Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 14:30:13 -0700
From: Dean Benz <dbenz@usa.net>
Subject: Re: [RE: [Team3S: Front wheel stud replacement question.]]

It may be possible without breaking the Axle nut loose, but on my 2ngd gen.
'94 TT there was nowhere to get the studs out without releasing the bearing
and hub from the housing.

I think we may all saying the same thing though.

You don't need to press the hub off the bearing, but the bearing and hub do
have to come at least part way off/out of the housing/suspension, at least on
the 2nd gen. If you have an impact wrench, taking the axle nut off is easy and
will give you much better access, and allow you to clean up inside the bearing
housing.

Damon did a good step by step, I just don't know how he gets grease into a
sealed bearing. It is a 12x1.25 nut by the way.


cewillis@TexasChildrensHospital.org wrote:
>
> Dean,
>
> Thanks for the details!  RIch Old Poop says that his shop replaces
> them with the hub stiill in place on the axle.  I have repaired one that
was
> loose with the hub still in place.  You have to rotate the hub to a cutaway
> section to get access to both inboard and outboard ends of the studs.
>
> Removing the hubs and cleaning/relubing the axle spindles is
> probably not a bad idea anyhow!
>
> Chuck Willis

Dean Benz
dbenz@usa.net

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Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 16:36:31 -0500
From: "Willis, Charles E." <cewillis@TexasChildrensHospital.org>
Subject: RE: [RE: [Team3S: Front wheel stud replacement question.]]

Cool.  I need to replace a hub on my 2nd gen VR4 this weekend anyhow.  The
two I replaced myself were on a 1st gen.  The part that was a beyach was
getting the nuts loose from back of the hub/housing thing.

I wish I had an impact wrench for the hub nut. I just used a long breakover
wrench and a torque wrench to reinstall.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dean Benz [SMTP:dbenz@usa.net]
> Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 4:30 PM
> To: cewillis@TexasChildrensHospital.org; Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st
> Subject: Re: [RE: [Team3S: Front wheel stud replacement question.]]
>
> It may be possible without breaking the Axle nut loose, but on my 2ngd
> gen.
> '94 TT there was nowhere to get the studs out without releasing the
> bearing
> and hub from the housing.
>
> I think we may all saying the same thing though.
>
> You don't need to press the hub off the bearing, but the bearing and hub
> do
> have to come at least part way off/out of the housing/suspension, at least
> on
> the 2nd gen. If you have an impact wrench, taking the axle nut off is easy
> and
> will give you much better access, and allow you to clean up inside the
> bearing
> housing.
>
> Damon did a good step by step, I just don't know how he gets grease into a
> sealed bearing. It is a 12x1.25 nut by the way.

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Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 17:52:30 EDT
From: DonBrando36@aol.com
Subject: Team3S: acceleration

    what would be the cause of bad acceleration?  a slow start and the feel
of less powerful?
thanks

brandon
93 3000GT n/a dohc
k&n intake
msd 8.5mm wires
denso iranium plugs
venom 400

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Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 15:01:07 -0700
From: Damon Rachell <damonr@mefas.com>
Subject: Re: [RE: [Team3S: Front wheel stud replacement question.]]

The way i got the axle nut off was to stop the rotation of the hub by
using a 2.5' section of rebar wrapped in a towel to protect the threads
of the studs.  that allowed me to use a large braker bar and the largest
  metric socket that I could find (don't remember the size, sorry).

to inject grease, I just have a syring which I use to try to get some
grease down in between the walls of the bearing.  Then spinning the
bearing allows some of it to wick down.  whether this actually helps or
not, i dunno, but since i'm there, i figure it can't hurt.

good luck
Damon

Willis, Charles E. wrote:

> Cool.  I need to replace a hub on my 2nd gen VR4 this weekend anyhow.  The
> two I replaced myself were on a 1st gen.  The part that was a beyach was
> getting the nuts loose from back of the hub/housing thing.
>
> I wish I had an impact wrench for the hub nut. I just used a long breakover
> wrench and a torque wrench to reinstall.
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Dean Benz [SMTP:dbenz@usa.net]
>>Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 4:30 PM
>>To: cewillis@TexasChildrensHospital.org; Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st
>>Subject: Re: [RE: [Team3S: Front wheel stud replacement question.]]
>>
>>It may be possible without breaking the Axle nut loose, but on my 2ngd
>>gen.
>>'94 TT there was nowhere to get the studs out without releasing the
>>bearing
>>and hub from the housing.
>>
>>I think we may all saying the same thing though.
>>
>>You don't need to press the hub off the bearing, but the bearing and hub
>>do
>>have to come at least part way off/out of the housing/suspension, at least
>>on
>>the 2nd gen. If you have an impact wrench, taking the axle nut off is easy
>>and
>>will give you much better access, and allow you to clean up inside the
>>bearing
>>housing.
>>
>>Damon did a good step by step, I just don't know how he gets grease into a
>>sealed bearing. It is a 12x1.25 nut by the way.

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Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 18:13:46 -0400
From: Fred Richardson <fbr@sympatico.ca>
Subject: Team3S: 95 RT TT for sale

Dear Team:
Must sell my TT. Emerald Green 125,000 Km .New Getrag @ 100,000. New
front struts. FIPK, HKS aluminum body SSBOV, OZ f1 Cup 18" rims, Falken
GRBII radials . BO.

F.B.Richardson
RR#4 Merrickville ON
K0G1N0

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Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 15:22:05 -0700
From: "fastmax" <fastmax@cox.net>
Subject: Re: [RE: [Team3S: Front wheel stud replacement question.]]

I left the rotor on and stuck a screwdriver in the cooling vanes of the
rotor and turned it until it hit the ground --- I also have an air compressor
and air tools which makes the job a tad easier.

        Jim Berry
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- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Damon Rachell" <damonr@mefas.com>
To: "Willis, Charles E." <cewillis@TexasChildrensHospital.org>
Cc: "'Dean Benz'" <dbenz@usa.net>; <Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 3:01 PM
Subject: Re: [RE: [Team3S: Front wheel stud replacement question.]]


> The way i got the axle nut off was to stop the rotation of the hub by
> using a 2.5' section of rebar wrapped in a towel to protect the threads
> of the studs.  that allowed me to use a large braker bar and the largest
>   metric socket that I could find (don't remember the size, sorry).
>
> to inject grease, I just have a syring which I use to try to get some
> grease down in between the walls of the bearing.  Then spinning the
> bearing allows some of it to wick down.  whether this actually helps or
> not, i dunno, but since i'm there, i figure it can't hurt.
>
> good luck
> Damon

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Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 23:13:11 -0400
From: Anthony Melillo <anthonymelillo3@comcast.net>
Subject: Team3S: document created on fig light  bulb replacement on 2nd gen

I created a Word Document and took some pictures when  I recently replaced the Fog Light bulbs on my 1997 VR-4, and was wondering if
anyone would like to post it on their site, or whatever, so that everyone can benefit.

Thanks all
Anthony Melillo
1997 VR-4, Firestorm Red
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/anthonymelillo3/3000gt.htm

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Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 20:28:13 -0700
From: "Paul Prentis" <paul@ppeengineering.com>
Subject: Team3S: how much knock is too much?

I finally got my datalogger working in my car and noticed that I was getting
detonation at 12psi with 91 octaine gas.  With ~96 octaine I can run about
16 - 17psi with knock under 10.  I haven't had time to see if I can tune out
a couple more psi on the 96 octaine.

I know that all knock is bad, but how much knock is really dangerous? I have
seen upto 19 on the TMO.

Paul
92 RT/TT

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Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2002 11:00:14 +0100
From: "martin" <martinberkley@blueyonder.co.uk>
Subject: Team3S: Car wont start help needed

Hello all.
I have a problem with my 3000GTO TT not starting.
It just cut out on me while driving like it had run out of fuel.
It has fuel in it and i have checked that there is a spark at the plug.
So i disconnected the high pressure fuel line from the front fuel rail and
turned the car over, no fuel came out.
I suspect the fuel pump but am not an expert and dont have a manual.
Can anyone suggest any tests i can perform to see if the fuel pump is at
fault or any other devices that i could test.
I do have a digital voltmeter to hand as well as all the tools i could
possibly need and am fairly mechanically minded but without a manual i am a
bit blind.
If the fuel pump has gone then i can get my hands on a Supra fuel pump but
is there a certain year of pump that i have to go for, and i am only running
the standard injectors.
The only mod i have is the K & N FIPK.
Any help is appreciated
Thanks in advance
Martin

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Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2002 12:04:17 +0200
From: "Roger Gerl" <roger.gerl@bluewin.ch>
Subject: Re: Team3S: how much knock is too much?

After a knock sum of around 13 the timing is getting retarded. Therefore the
ECU sees this amount of knock as not good and starts to do the first step.
If knock doesn't go lower it will be retarded even more if rpm rises in a
second step.

Therefore keep the knock below this level otherwise you will fall into much
higher knock if a tank of fuel is worser than another or the weather
changes.

Roger
93'3000GT TT
www.rtec.ch

- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Prentis" <paul@ppeengineering.com>
To: <team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2002 5:28 AM
Subject: Team3S: how much knock is too much?

> I finally got my datalogger working in my car and noticed that I was
getting
> detonation at 12psi with 91 octaine gas.  With ~96 octaine I can run about
> 16 - 17psi with knock under 10.  I haven't had time to see if I can tune
out
> a couple more psi on the 96 octaine.
>
> I know that all knock is bad, but how much knock is really dangerous? I
have
> seen upto 19 on the TMO.
>
> Paul
> 92 RT/TT

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Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2002 10:59:40 -0000
From: "Jeff Lucius" <jlucius@stealth316.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Car wont start help needed

First, buy a manual! The most inexpensive yet most rewarding option is the
Manual on CD by Team3S member Vinny Singh. Only $35 US!

http://www.manualcd.com/

There can be many causes for an engine not starting, from fuses to CAS to
broken timing belt to ECM. Literally dozens. The manual will help you get
organized to find and fix the problem.

As far as the fuel pump goes, there is a terminal in the engine compartment by
the battery that is there just to check the pump. Supply +12 volts from the
battery directly to the single terminal in this connector to power the pump
even with the ignition switch off. The last picture on my web page below shows
this connector.

http://www.stealth316.com/2-fp_install.htm

The Supra MKIV fuel pump is by far the best drop-in pump *proven* to flow the
most fuel. See my web page below for fuel pump upgrade options and flow tests.

http://www.stealth316.com/2-fuelpumpguide.htm

Jeff Lucius, http://www.stealth316.com/

- ---------- Original Message -------------
Subject: Team3S: Car wont start help needed
Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2002 11:00:14 +0100
From: "martin" <martinberkley@blueyonder.co.uk>
To: "Team3s" <Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>

Hello all.
I have a problem with my 3000GTO TT not starting.
It just cut out on me while driving like it had run out of fuel.
It has fuel in it and i have checked that there is a spark at the plug.
So i disconnected the high pressure fuel line from the front fuel rail and
turned the car over, no fuel came out.
I suspect the fuel pump but am not an expert and dont have a manual.
Can anyone suggest any tests i can perform to see if the fuel pump is at
fault or any other devices that i could test.
I do have a digital voltmeter to hand as well as all the tools i could
possibly need and am fairly mechanically minded but without a manual i am a
bit blind.
If the fuel pump has gone then i can get my hands on a Supra fuel pump but
is there a certain year of pump that i have to go for, and i am only running
the standard injectors.
The only mod i have is the K & N FIPK.
Any help is appreciated
Thanks in advance
Martin

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Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2002 08:46:40 -0400
From: "Furman, Russell" <RFurman2@MassMutual.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Car wont start help needed

Martin, go to Stealth 316.com it has instructions on how to test you fuel
pump.  Also you may wanna check fuel flow before the filter (have you
replaced it in the last 60k miles?) it may be clogged.  If it does in fact
to be the pump you are looking for either the 93.5-98 Supra TT pump your
other option in the walboro 255lph (about $105 + shipping from
importpoweronline.com ). Either of these fuel pumps is a direct drop in
replacement four our cars.
 
To all digest mebers I apologize on behalf of all of us who have not been
trimming down the the messages before sending our replies to the list.  WE
all know who we are so how about we all pay the fawking attention to what we
are doing.
 
Russ F
CT

- -----Original Message-----
From: martin [mailto:martinberkley@blueyonder.co.uk]
Sent: Sat 4/20/2002 6:00 AM
To: Team3s
Cc:
Subject: Team3S: Car wont start help needed

Hello all.
I have a problem with my 3000GTO TT not starting.
It just cut out on me while driving like it had run out of fuel.
So i disconnected the high pressure fuel line from the front fuel rail and
turned the car over, no fuel came out.
I suspect the fuel pump but am not an expert and dont have a manual.
Can anyone suggest any tests i can perform to see if the fuel pump is at
fault or any other devices that i could test.
If the fuel pump has gone then i can get my hands on a Supra fuel pump but
is there a certain year of pump that i have to go for, and i am only running

the standard injectors.
The only mod i have is the K & N FIPK.
Any help is appreciated
Thanks in advance
Martin

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Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2002 08:38:15 -0700
From: "Riyan Mynuddin" <riyan@hotpop.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Car wont start help needed

Martin-

Talk to me before you do anything major, especially messing with the fuel lines. If you break a fuel line, you will be paying out of your ass, and depending on the condition of your lines, it can be tough to service the lines without breaking them. Not that I'm proud of it after the HELL that I just went through, but I would probably be the one the talk to about the fuel delivery system. I went on a witch hunt, replacing parts left and right, until finally I found a tiny leak in the pump side fuel pressure hose which caused:

1) fuel pressure to drop
2) short circuit in fuel pressure regulation system which blew my engine fuse

Reinforing what Jeff says, you will definetely need the manual. There is no way I would have been able to fix my fuel delivery issues without it. I also want to warn you that although the manual helps a lot, there is SO much stuff on this car that looks similar to other stuff that you will definetely have trouble. Is this car your primary driver? Because I was thinking about putting a "fuel delivery system primer" on the FAQ pages, but that may take some time. If you're in a hurry, I'd be glad to start helping you by e-mail today. Just let me know what's up. The first thing you need to do is jump your fuel pump on using the fuel pump check terminal, which is almost impossible to find. That's where the manual comes in!!

I'm looking forward to helping out.

As many members know, I've been recording my progress on the baby as I go along. You can now see my fixed car at http://www.advantedgecomputing.com/stllow/stealth.htm

Riyan
93 stealth rt tt

- -----Original Message-----
From: owner-team3s@team3s.com [mailto:owner-team3s@team3s.com]On Behalf
Of Furman, Russell
Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2002 5:47 AM
To: Team3s
Subject: RE: Team3S: Car wont start help needed

Martin, go to Stealth 316.com it has instructions on how to test you fuel
pump.  Also you may wanna check fuel flow before the filter (have you
. . .
<cut>(about $105 + shipping from
importpoweronline.com ). Either of these fuel pumps is a direct drop in
replacement four our cars.
<cut> 
 
Russ F
CT

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Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2002 13:38:32 -0400
From: "Darren Schilberg" <dschilberg@pobox.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: engine dress up

But I thought the PCV hose had the check valve inside it?  I was at Pep
Boys and a friend was buying a PCV check valve for his Civic.  I took it
and blew through one end.  Air came out.  I turned it around and blew
air through it and nothing (the check valve made sure of that).  I know
a Civic is not a 3/S but where is our check valve?

If the PCV hose is just a rigid hose/tube then where IS the PCV check
valve?  I feel my PCV hose is clogged.  Why would a straight tube get
clogged from just oil vapor/small liquid drops going through?  If it has
a check valve then that will make more sense why it would get clogged
up.

And I thought the oil catch can (like Scott Cowan has) did away with the
check valve in the PCV by separating the air and oil and catching the
oil and keeping it aside.

Yes, Erik, only vacuum lines are to replaced directly with silicone
vacuum hoses with the only exception being the coolant overflow tube.
All other hoses/tubes can only be covered (unless you are diligent and
want to pull the cruise control cable all the way through like a friend
of mine did ... A bit easier to just cover it up though).  Good job
keeping the old hoses though.  Mine are in individual Glad bags labeled
so I know where they go back.

- --Flash!
1995 VR-4

- -----Original Message-----
From: cewillis@TexasChildrensHospital.org
Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 12:23 PM
To: dschilberg@pobox.com; team3S@stealth-3000gt.st
Subject: RE: Team3S: engine dress up

Wrongo.  The PCV valve is a check valve. The PCV hose is a straight
hose.

Chuck Willis

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Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2002 19:57:34 +0200
From: "Roger Gerl" <roger.gerl@bluewin.ch>
Subject: Re: Team3S: engine dress up

> But I thought the PCV hose had the check valve inside it?

The PCV is at the inlet of the front valve cover. It is very weak and even a
new one often starts to leak at higher than stock bosot after a few weeks
(due to the hot/cold cycles). It MUST close when the plenum is under boost
and immediatly open when under vacuum.

> And I thought the oil catch can (like Scott Cowan has) did away with the
> check valve in the PCV by separating the air and oil and catching the
> oil and keeping it aside.

No, it doesn't replace the PCV !

> Yes, Erik, only vacuum lines are to replaced directly with silicone
> vacuum hoses with the only exception being the coolant overflow tube.
> All other hoses/tubes can only be covered

The PCV hoses can be replaced easily with silicone ones, no problems at all.

Roger
93'3000GT TT
www.rtec.ch

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Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2002 14:03:13 -0500
From: "S. J Cowan" <sjc0u812@juno.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: engine dress up

Darren/Roger/et al:

> > And I thought the oil catch can (like Scott Cowan has) did away
> with the
> > check valve in the PCV by separating the air and oil and catching
> the
> > oil and keeping it aside.
>
> No, it doesn't replace the PCV !

Correct, I did not remove the PCV valve. 

> > Yes, Erik, only vacuum lines are to replaced directly with
> silicone
> > vacuum hoses with the only exception being the coolant overflow
> tube.
> > All other hoses/tubes can only be covered
>
> The PCV hoses can be replaced easily with silicone ones, no problems
> at all.

Replaced yes, problems... I don't know.  Hose Techniques states their SVH
are to be used for air or vacuum only, with exceptions being windshield
washer hose and radiator over flow hose.  I personally did not use them
for that application. 

Best,

SJ

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Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2002 14:22:13 -0500
From: "david hacker" <admin@01010110.net>
Subject: Team3S: Need a SOHC engine

I need to find somewhere in the Texas area to buy a SOHC engine, it
doesn't have to be new but needs to be in good condition.  I am willing
to buy from a junkyard if necessary.

If anyone can help me thank you,
David Hacker admin@01010110.net

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Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2002 16:17:43 -0400
From: "Darren Schilberg" <dschilberg@pobox.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: engine dress up

Thanks, Roger.  That explains a lot that used to confuse me.

- --Flash!
1995 VR-4

- -----Original Message-----
From: Roger Gerl
Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2002 1:58 PM

> But I thought the PCV hose had the check valve inside it?

The PCV is at the inlet of the front valve cover. It is very weak and
even a new one often starts to leak at higher than stock bosot after a
few weeks (due to the hot/cold cycles). It MUST close when the plenum is
under boost and immediatly open when under vacuum.

> And I thought the oil catch can (like Scott Cowan has) did away with
> the check valve in the PCV by separating the air and oil and catching
> the oil and keeping it aside.

No, it doesn't replace the PCV !

> Yes, Erik, only vacuum lines are to replaced directly with silicone
> vacuum hoses with the only exception being the coolant overflow tube.
> All other hoses/tubes can only be covered

The PCV hoses can be replaced easily with silicone ones, no problems at
all.

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