Team3S: 3000GT & Stealth Sunday, March 3
2002 Volume 01 : Number
770
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Date:
Sat, 02 Mar 2002 00:55:30 -0500
From: Michael Pliska <
mjpliska@prodigy.net>
Subject: RE:
Team3S: General dragstrip knowledge
While this info is somewhat dated
(1986-87), I was running a mid-11
second street car w/o rollbar at several
NHRA tracks (Oregon & CA), just
slowing it down to 12.00 (1/4-mi) or 8.00
(1/8-mi) per the rules. The
7.99 limit was the local track rule, and
more restrictive than the NHRA
rule for 1/8-mile. Nobody ever
threatened to tear up my timeslips, but
I would usually get a handwritten
warning on my timeslip if I ran below
11.99 during time trials. If I
made a breakout pass (which I frequently
did if either driver redlighted in
eliminations), nobody complained. I
finally put a NHRA-compliant
rollbar in the car, and lightened it up in
other areas to maintain the same
weight.
Regards,
Michael Pliska
1991 VR-4 (nowhere near the 11's,
unless you count being parked next to
it in the
garage)
<SNIP>
Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2002 09:22:48 -0600
From:
"Morice, Francis" <
francis.morice@retek.com>
Subject:
RE: Team3S: General dragstrip knowledge (was: RE: My Record
Pass in
Question.)
Darren,
The rules at the track we (MN3s) go to are
basically, if you go faster
than
14.0, then no passenger, always wear a
helmet even if you are in the
20's,
and anything under 11.99 you are
required to have a roll cage of some
sort.
Convertibles are not generally
allowed unless you have a roll cage as
well,
although they must of never
heard of a VR-4 Spyder since Matt J. has
never
been called on it. They are
very serious about this at Rock Falls (Wis),
they will check your car out
after a sub 12 run and if no cage, you are
on
your way home, no warnings.
I have seen them do it.
Just what I have seen.
Francis
'96
RT/TT
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Date: Sat, 2 Mar 2002 08:03:31
-0500
From: "bdtrent" <
bdtrent@netzero.net>
Subject:
Team3S: Re: Race seat and harness safety
Darren,
You bring up a
good point. You also threw a wrench into my spring upgrade
plans.
I was looking forward to a easy 60lb. weight reduction with a set
of
seats. Now this will likely be eclipsed by the weight of a
roll-bar. Do
you have any pics, weight, or pricing info?
Thanks
in advance,
DaveT/92TT
- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Darren
Schilberg" <
dschilberg@pobox.com>
To: <
Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
Sent:
Wednesday, February 27, 2002 11:00 PM
Subject: Race seat and harness safety
(was: RE: Team3S: Fog Light bulb
replacement)
Reminder to all with
race seats and/or harnesses or who are thinking
about getting them ... it is
illegal if not just downright silly to put
a race seat and/or harness in your
car and not install a rollbar or
rollcage. No proper tech crew will
allow your car to pass for obvious
reasons (stated below). Check with
the group you drive with or the
track you drive on to see what their safety
requirements are.
The reason a rollbar or rollcage is required is when
you strap yourself
into a race seat (or a stock seat) with a safety harness
then you limit
your movement. In the event of a rollover your head will
not be the
tallest thing in the cockpit and will get squashed like a
grape. With
the stock 3-point harness you can lean to either side or to
the front
but a 5- or a 6-point harness prevents this.
Sorry ...
getting my noggin crushed is a little bit of a sensitive
subject with me so I
try to make sure people are aware as many times
those who buy race seats from
one place and harnesses from another are
not offered this advice.
Before you spend $1,000 or more, get it
installed all pretty like, and submit
your Driver's Ed fee and drive to
the track -- I don't want you to be turned
away because you don't have a
rollbar (and those street bars that are for
show don't count).
I have a contact for anyone who needs more
information. Ken Myers,
Ken@IOPortRacing.com or
www.ioportracing.com, is a great source
and is
where I purchased my Autopower Race Rollbar from. Great
place. Good
source of knowledge. Let me know if you have any
questions, concerns,
or comments.
- --Flash!
1995 VR-4 with
Autopower Race rollbar, Sparco Evo race seat, and Simpson
5-point
harness
- -----Original Message-----
From: Todd D.Shelton
Sent:
Wednesday, February 27, 2002 13:47
Subject: Re: Team3S: Fog Light bulb
replacement
But after just dropping hundereds on the headlight HID
conversion,
another $1435 on the Teins, $1K on racing seats and
harness,
Momo steering wheel and new stereo head unit and
steering wheel
remote control unit I'm a little tapped out
at the moment.
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Date: Sat, 2 Mar 2002 08:10:40
-0500
From: "bdtrent" <
bdtrent@netzero.net>
Subject:
Team3S: Y-pipe Retainer
All,
I have recently been contacted about
making a y-pipe retainer I've been
using for the last 2 yrs. available.
This design is simply a yoke that
holds the stock y-pipe in place for those
of us who don't wish to buy an
aftermarket y-pipe. Mine has functioned
at 18psi without fault. The yoke
could easily be milled out on a
production CNC. Like all things of this
nature, the price is heavily
dependent on quantity. If you would like more
info or pics, please
email me.
Regards,
DaveT/92TT
bdtrent@netzero.net***
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Date: Sat, 2 Mar 2002 05:52:44
-0800
From: "P N Sankarshanan" <
yoss@aracnet.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S:
$40 + labor suspension mod
Folks:
Here's more
information on the bushings:
This all came about from
my conversations with our local (Portland, OR
area) 3Si tuner, when I was
getting my rear-differential leak checked. There
isn't anyone to his
knowledge who makes bushings specific to our cars; however,
he stated that it
wouldn't be a major issue (the tricky part is the bracket) in
adapting an
Energy Suspension Universal bushing set for installation with our
anti-sway
bars. He also stated that he's done this before on another
3000GT
car. I think he placed an order only for the frame bushings, and
not for the
end links. I didn't know to ask about it until I visited
the Energy Suspension
webpage to read more about the
bushings.
I have also sent an email to the Energy
Suspension folks asking them if
they will manufacture bushings that are
specific to our cars (they already have
complete bushing sets for the
Eclipse) if there is enough interest generated
from the customer base (3Si
members.) I'll update y'all when/if I hear back
from
them.
The bushings for my car will arrive in a week or
two. I'll update you
after the installation.
-
-sankar
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Date: Sat, 2 Mar 2002 07:42:16
-0800
From: "fastmax" <
fastmax@cox.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S:
Y-pipe Retainer
I saw mention of a tennis ball mod --- jam a tennis ball
between the
battery and the 'Y' pipe. If you're into lookin cool this mod is
not for you.
Jim
Berry
===========================================
- ----- Original
Message -----
From: "bdtrent" <
bdtrent@netzero.net>
>
All,
>
> I have recently been contacted about making a y-pipe
retainer I've been
> using for the last 2 yrs. available. This
design is simply a yoke that
> holds the stock y-pipe in place for those
of us who don't wish to buy an
> aftermarket y-pipe. Mine has
functioned at 18psi without fault. The yoke
> could easily be milled
out on a production CNC. Like all things of this
> nature, the price
is heavily dependent on quantity. If you would like more
> info or
pics, please email me.
*** Info:
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Date: Sat, 2 Mar 2002 11:03:39
-0500
From: "bdtrent" <
bdtrent@netzero.net>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: Y-pipe Retainer
The yoke is located at the throttle body.
Very simple and effective. I can
appreciate that those who dropped
$200+ for a new y-pipe could find any
number of reasons to convince
themselves of why this solution is
undesirable.
- ----- Original
Message -----
From: "fastmax" <
fastmax@cox.net>
To: "bdtrent" <
bdtrent@netzero.net>; "Team 3S" <
team3s@stealth-3000gt.st>
Sent:
Saturday, March 02, 2002 10:42 AM
Subject: Re: Team3S: Y-pipe
Retainer
I saw mention of a tennis ball mod --- jam a tennis ball between
the
battery and the 'Y' pipe. If you're into lookin cool this mod is not
for
you.
Jim
Berry
===========================================
- ----- Original
Message -----
From: "bdtrent" <
bdtrent@netzero.net>
>
All,
>
> I have recently been contacted about making a y-pipe
retainer I've been
> using for the last 2 yrs. available. This
design is simply a yoke that
> holds the stock y-pipe in place for those
of us who don't wish to buy an
> aftermarket y-pipe. Mine has
functioned at 18psi without fault. The yoke
> could easily be milled
out on a production CNC. Like all things of this
> nature, the price
is heavily dependent on quantity. If you would like
more
> info
or pics, please email me.
>
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Date: Sat, 2 Mar 2002 11:03:18
-0800 (PST)
From: Geoff Mohler <
gemohler@www.speedtoys.com>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: Re: Race seat and harness safety
Dave..adjust your thinkin
cap. :^)
You still saved 60lbs, stock seats AND a rollbar is still
hevier.
On Sat, 2 Mar 2002, bdtrent wrote:
> Darren,
>
> You bring up a good point. You also threw a wrench into my spring
upgrade
> plans. I was looking forward to a easy 60lb. weight
reduction with a set of
> seats. Now this will likely be eclipsed by
the weight of a roll-bar. Do
> you have any pics, weight, or pricing
info?
>
> Thanks in advance,
> DaveT/92TT
>
>
----- Original Message -----
> From: "Darren Schilberg" <
dschilberg@pobox.com>
> To:
<
Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
>
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 11:00 PM
> Subject: Race seat and
harness safety (was: RE: Team3S: Fog Light bulb
> replacement)
>
>
> Reminder to all with race seats and/or harnesses or who are
thinking
> about getting them ... it is illegal if not just downright
silly to put
> a race seat and/or harness in your car and not install a
rollbar or
> rollcage. No proper tech crew will allow your car to
pass for obvious
> reasons (stated below). Check with the group you
drive with or the
> track you drive on to see what their safety
requirements are.
>
> The reason a rollbar or rollcage is required
is when you strap yourself
> into a race seat (or a stock seat) with a
safety harness then you limit
> your movement. In the event of a
rollover your head will not be the
> tallest thing in the cockpit and will
get squashed like a grape. With
> the stock 3-point harness you can
lean to either side or to the front
> but a 5- or a 6-point harness
prevents this.
>
> Sorry ... getting my noggin crushed is a little
bit of a sensitive
> subject with me so I try to make sure people are
aware as many times
> those who buy race seats from one place and
harnesses from another are
> not offered this advice. Before you
spend $1,000 or more, get it
> installed all pretty like, and submit your
Driver's Ed fee and drive to
> the track -- I don't want you to be turned
away because you don't have a
> rollbar (and those street bars that are
for show don't count).
>
> I have a contact for anyone who needs
more information. Ken Myers,
>
Ken@IOPortRacing.com or
www.ioportracing.com, is a great source
and is
> where I purchased my Autopower Race Rollbar from. Great
place. Good
> source of knowledge. Let me know if you have any
questions, concerns,
> or comments.
>
> --Flash!
> 1995
VR-4 with Autopower Race rollbar, Sparco Evo race seat, and Simpson
>
5-point harness
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Todd
D.Shelton
> Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 13:47
> Subject: Re:
Team3S: Fog Light bulb replacement
>
> But after just dropping
hundereds on the headlight HID conversion,
> another $1435 on the Teins,
$1K on racing seats and harness,
> Momo steering wheel and new stereo head
unit and
> steering wheel remote control unit I'm a little tapped
out
> at the moment.
- ---
Geoff Mohler
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Date: Sat, 2 Mar 2002 21:26:37
-0000
From: "Sam Shelat" <
sshelat@erols.com>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: Apparently My Synchros Are Still Good...
I don't know how the
heck you guys do that. Honestly, I thought these cars
had some kind of
system to prevent this because my 95VR-4 feels like I hit a
gate when I try
to go from a real high gear at high rpm into a lower one. I
do not have
a grinding synchro or bad synchros because the car will upshift
rapidly with
no resistance. I can jam it in the gear if I really try to,
but I use
very little force on the shifter even drag racing, so when I feel
too much
resistance, I double clutch and try again.
Sam
- -----Original
Message-----
From: Willis, Charles E. <
cewillis@TexasChildrensHospital.org>
To:
'Floyd, Jim' <
Jim_Floyd@maxtor.com>; Team3S List
(E-mail)
<
team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
Date:
Friday, March 01, 2002 2:07 AM
Subject: RE: Team3S: Apparently My Synchros
Are Still Good...
>I usually downshift from 5th inadvertantly into
2nd. Same, same, sh&t.
>
>> -----Original
Message-----
>> From: Floyd, Jim
[SMTP:Jim_Floyd@maxtor.com]
>> Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2002 6:39
PM
>> To: Team3S List (E-mail)
>> Subject: RE: Team3S:
Apparently My Synchros Are Still Good...
>>
>>
>> I
thought I was the only one that did that.
>>
>> -----Original
Message-----
>> From: Gross, Erik
[mailto:erik.gross@intel.com]
>> Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2002 5:35
PM
>> To: Team3S List (E-mail)
>> Subject: Team3S: Apparently
My Synchros Are Still Good...
>>
>>
>> With all the
talk about bad Getrash synchros, I thought I'd share a good
>>
experience, at least for the synchro's performance...
>>
>> I
was accelerating around a sweeping uphill left-hander in 3rd at
about
85
>> or so a few days ago when I decided that was fast
enough. The corner
>> reminds me a little of coming out of the
bottom of the corkscrew at
Laguna
>> Seca, but not as extreme.
I was sloshing around in my stock driver's
seat
>> a
>>
bit, having to brace myself a little with my hands on the wheel (not
>>
consciously, but I was).
>>
>> Some of you who are insightful
are appropriately cringing/grimacing at
>> this
>> point,
because you know what happened.
>>
>> I shifted to 4th so I
could cruise up the hill at not-so-high an RPM.
The
>> shift felt
relatively normal - maybe a tiny bit more effort than usual -
>>
and
>> was completed without any complaints. I then let the
clutch out. I
>> thought
>> I had shifted to 4th.
... I hadn't. I was in the other 4th gear (a.k.a.
>> 2nd)
.... at 80mph or so.
#$%#@$%#$%!!!!
>>
>> Fortunately,
on the street, I almost never just side-step the clutch when
>>
up/downshifting, so as I was letting the clutch out, I felt way more
>>
resistance than usual and the engine started to rev higher than
normal.
I
>> immediately figured out what I'd done and slammed the
clutch back onto
the
>> floor, found the "other 4th gear" and
mentally kicked myself a few times.
>> I'm so glad I hadn't fully
released the clutch.
>>
>> I smelled a bit of the notorious
burnt clutch smell, the tach never got
>> over
>> 7200-7300RPM
(guess, from the corner of my eye), and everything seems ok.
>>
I
>> don't think I did any damage. Glad I don't have one of those
4-billion
>> pound pressure plates, that I know my car reasonably well,
and that I
>> don't
>> normally shift too hard, or I'm afraid
of what might have happened :{
>>
>> Yet more motivation to
get those race seats and the appropriate
>> restraining
>>
harnesses...
>>
>> --Erik
>> '95 VR-4 with a little
clutch wear and bruised driver's ego
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Date: Sat, 2 Mar 2002 21:39:15
-0000
From: "Sam Shelat" <
sshelat@erols.com>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: My Record Pass in Question.
Jack,
Do yo care what he
thinks? Really, you are the pioneer and the guru to us
at 3si. I
don't care if you did the record setting run in your bear feet
and underwear,
it is still the record setting run. Our cars don't even need
a roll
cage. they are built like tanks and were given 5 stars for
safety-----you
will never see a vette or Viper get a safety rating like our
2-ton
mommas!
Sam
- -----Original Message-----
From: xwing <
xwing@wi.rr.com>
To:
dschilberg@pobox.com <
dschilberg@pobox.com>;
team3s@stealth-3000gt.st<
team3s@stealth-3000gt.st>;
3sracers@speedtoys.com <
3sracers@speedtoys.com>
Date:
Friday, March 01, 2002 6:40 AM
Subject: Team3S: My Record Pass in
Question.
>I'm upset.
>Darren Schilberg has a technical argument
that my record passes should be
>forgotten, don't count, and says "other
folks" might question them, so I
>guess I better talk about this out in
the open.
>Darren Schilberg has seen fit to write me a letter, which he
refused to let
>me reprint verbatim, indicating that my record passes are
"skeptical at
>best". (I never figured out why I can't do whatever I
please with a letter
>GIVEN TO ME, which is now in my possession, my
property. Cite me Wisconsin
>law.)
> Given his lack of the
courage of his convictions to allow a reprint, I
will
>paraphrase
it--and LET SOMEBODY MEET ME IN COURT NOW if they can't
handle
>it:
>----------------------------
>Darren
indicated:
>'Rumor has it you made a ten second pass on a track in
Wisconsin. I
>thought 11.00 or better required a a rollbar and
perhaps a helmet. If you
>ran an 11.xx then a 10.9x you might get
away with it, but that is your one
>free pass. If you do it again
and don't have a rollbar usually the
timeslip
>is ripped up, you are
kicked out, and the time doesn't count. So if those
>10second ET's
were your first passes they are skeptical at best.
If
they're
>after a series of 10.99 or better runs then I think they
shouldn't count
>since it is against dragstrip
rules.'
>----------------------------
>I was trying to figure out
what dark corner of Darren's mind this came out
>of; he sure is trying to
find some technicality to crap on my record. I
>will answer it in 2
ways, first all rule-sy so Darren can chew on it and
>come up with several
arguments why he's right as always...and then
with
some
>feeling.
>
>1) My records are not "Rumor",
they are fact. I have the timeslips. I
>turned an 11.303 in
front of everybody at the 1997 DSM Shootout 16 May 1997
>with NO nitrous;
then just 2 weeks later, did a 10.89 and 10.81 at Great
>Lakes Dragaway in
Wisconsin, also in front of big crowds. Can I name
>witnesses to say
they saw it? Yes, but the most important witness, who I
>RACED
AGAINST THAT PASS, can't testify. I will tell you who that is,
later
>on. Now Darren probably figures he's "really got
me"--no
eyewitnesses...?!?
> Yes, some tracks and sanctioning
bodies (NHRA) required in 1997 a rollbar
>for 11.99 or better ET's, and TO
SET AN OFFICIAL NHRA SANCTIONED RECORD
you
>have to have
it. My record is not recognized by NHRA, it is just something
>I
_DID_. How many 3S "record runs" ARE officially sanctioned by the
NHRA,
>IHRA, IDRA etc? I bet alot of you even DRIVE to the track,
and ELSEWHERE,
>without FULL SMOG EQUIPMENT, which is totally
ILLEGAL!
>YOW!! Sounds like we have no records at all, then.
Ridiculous, IMHO.
>I made 3 passes on June 3, 1997; first=15.963 @
57.47mph; I shut it down.
>2nd=10.892 @ 123.16 and got warned to "slow it
down"; 3rd=10.810 @ 128.44.
>After that pass, the timeslip lady said with
a smile "That's it for the
>night" and I left with a BIG smile
myself! BTW, I had "Peggy" the ET Shack
>lady SIGN the back of my
10.89 slip "Car did run the time, ET Shack Peggy,
>10.89" in case some
jerk challenged me on it. At the TIME, I thought I was
>going
overboard a little, but HERE WE ARE! Those are the FACTS, and I
have
>it ON PAPER. Thanks, Darren. My faith in humanity takes
another hit.
>
>2) Now I'll defend my record with some
feeling.
>To have my record, recognized for almost 5 years, challenged by
DARREN
>SCHILBERG, is insulting. There have been plenty of witnesses
to my car, my
>driving, my modifications, and my knowledge base. He
gets a "rollbar",
goes
>on some tracks, and he's all over the place
telling people how to drive,
>what to put in their car, HOW to put it in
their car, and not infrequently
>in a condescending manner from what I've
seen (and never commented on until
>he comes at ME.)
>Darren, the
Decaffeinated is JUST AS GOOD as the Real Thing
these
days...try
>it.
>
>I said before that I had a witness
to my 10.810 pass on June 3, 1997. I
>said he can't testify. I
don't think about this too often because it is
>personal and it
hurts. I had to look his website up again because it
was
>moved.
http://www.dougb.com/jeff/0.html>
>Jeff
Curtis was from the Chicago area, and had a beautiful Stealth TT that
>he
raced often, including with me at Union Grove Dragaway. Well, on
the
>best pass I ever made, Jeff Curtis was in the other lane racing
me. He did
>a 13.781 @ 98.5 mph, his best ET that day; I did the
best pass in a
>Mitsubishi I have ever had, 10.810 @ 128.44. He had
the other copy of that
>timeslip. I had freaked out later that year
because I couldn't find my
>copy; he was willing to give me his, but then
I found my original so
thanked
>him for the thought.
>
>He
DIED in early 1998, the victim of an asshole drunk driver who caused
a
>wreck. He wasn't driving his Stealth, and God help me if he was I
bet he'd
>still be here. Alot of us knew him to varying degrees, and
we won't
forget.
>THAT is part of the reason I am just sickened by
DARREN SCHILBERG casting
>doubts and poison about that DAY and that
RACE. I will not have the memory
>of that race, and the record it
set, ruined.
>
>Weird, a little...I'm not superstitious, but
sometimes I think about Jeff
>from that day, he was there with his
girlfriend as I recall; we talked
about
>our cars and our hopes...I
think we both sort of pushed each other to do
>better that day, and
sometimes it just feels like Jeff was in that race
with
>me, like I got
a little push from him mentally or something, and there was
>MY best pass,
and HIS best of day. We were so stoked! It sort of
seems
>like OUR record, just in my own mind anyway, because that timeslip
ties me
>to that day and that race and my memories of him. Weird, I
haven't raced
>that 93 VR4 since 1997 for various reasons, yet here we
are, almost 5 years
>later and THAT PASS ALONE still stands, holds
record!
>http://www.dougb.com/jeff/cars/racing/060397/
>
>Thanks,
Jeff. Miss you, dude.
>I'll probably get beaten out; maybe my cars
won't cooperate; but I dedicate
>my 2002 year of racing to Jeff
Curtis.
>Rest in peace...or better yet, get those tracks up there good and
ready for
>the rest of us...
>I might never get a good pass all year
long, but I'll try; and I'll
>remember.
>Jack
Tertadian
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Date: Sat, 2 Mar 2002 22:22:07
-0500
From: "Mike Frey" <
mike21b@ptd.net>
Subject: Team3S: Side
view mirror question
Hey folks, I just spotted a passenger side mirror in
ebay, red, says it's
off of a 92 Stealth.
It just so happens that the
only broken exterior part on my red Stealth is
the passenger side mirror, so
I thought I'd bid on it but wanted to check
with anyone who's awake who can
tell me whether all models had the same
mirrors...?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/aw-cgi/ebayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1807172775&r=0&t=0
Mike
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Date: Sat, 2 Mar 2002 19:46:10
-0800
From: "fastmax" <
fastmax@cox.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S:
Side view mirror question
I took a quick look at the caps program and
find 45 part numbers for the
mirrors ---- it looks like different numbers for
all the different colors but
I cant tell for sure because I don't know which
colors they had when.
My guess is they are the same but I don't know that
for sure.
Jim
Berry
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Message -----
From: "Mike Frey" <
mike21b@ptd.net>
> Hey folks, I
just spotted a passenger side mirror in ebay, red, says it's
> off of a 92
Stealth.
>
> It just so happens that the only broken exterior part
on my red Stealth is
> the passenger side mirror, so I thought I'd bid on
it but wanted to check
> with anyone who's awake who can tell me whether
all models had the same
> mirrors...?
>
>
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/aw-cgi/ebayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1807172775>
&r=0&t=0
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Date: Sat, 2 Mar 2002 23:16:15
-0600
From: "cody" <
overclck@satx.rr.com>
Subject: RE:
Team3S: Side view mirror question
If it makes ya feel any better, that's
the same side mirror as on my '93
3000...
I would think they are all
the same, but color may vary... Also, some
may/may not have power
adjustments...
- -Cody
- -----Original Message-----
From:
owner-team3s@team3s.com
[mailto:owner-team3s@team3s.com] On Behalf
Of Mike Frey
Sent: Saturday,
March 02, 2002 9:22 PM
To: team3S
Subject: Team3S: Side view mirror
question
Hey folks, I just spotted a passenger side mirror in ebay, red,
says
it's
off of a 92 Stealth.
It just so happens that the only
broken exterior part on my red Stealth
is
the passenger side mirror, so I
thought I'd bid on it but wanted to
check
with anyone who's awake who can
tell me whether all models had the same
mirrors...?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/aw-cgi/ebayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1807172775
&r=0&t=0
Mike
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Date: Sat, 02 Mar 2002 22:31:38
-0700
From: Wayne <
whietala@prodigy.net>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: Side view mirror question
The only real difference is some are
heated, and some are not.
The connectors are different, so they are NOT
interchangable.
Wayne
At 10:22 PM 3/2/02 -0500, Mike Frey
wrote:
>Hey folks, I just spotted a passenger side mirror in ebay, red,
says it's
>off of a 92 Stealth.
>
>It just so happens that the
only broken exterior part on my red Stealth is
>the passenger side mirror,
so I thought I'd bid on it but wanted to check
>with anyone who's awake
who can tell me whether all models had the
same
>mirrors...?
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Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2002 02:55:44
-0500
From: "Bill vp" <
billvp@highstream.net>
Subject:
Team3S: what is the optimum a/f reading at WOT? how to hook
up?
What voltage should I see for a good mixture of performance and fuel
economy
(I know they are not too compatible with each other) :)
I
purchased the Jumptronix A/F meter with the digital display (thanks for
the
site XWING) and was wondering what the best reading was. Also, for
any
of you that have used this, how do I go about hooking this thing
up?
thanks,
Bill
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