Team3S: 3000GT & Stealth Tuesday, January 29
2002 Volume 01 : Number
739
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Date:
Mon, 28 Jan 2002 10:52:19 EST
From:
Nxtkin@aol.comSubject: Team3S: Converting
to an AWD
I have a 1991 Steatlh R/T FWD. I am interested in converting it
to an AWD.
Anyone out there done it before? If so, what kind of money can I
expect to
spend on getting it done? Any reasons why I shouldn't have it
done?
Bill Hollifield
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Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 11:03:40
-0500
From: "Jeff VanOrsdal" <
jeffv@1nce.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S:
Converting to an AWD
For the money you'll spend, you could almost buy two
older VR4s. Even if
you did do it, you still wouldn't have all the
other options the VR4 comes
with. It's just not worth it.
Jeff
VanOrsdal
1991 Stealth ESX Twin Turbo
jeffv@1nce.com- -----Original
Message-----
From:
owner-team3s@team3s.com
[mailto:owner-team3s@team3s.com]On Behalf
Of
Nxtkin@aol.comSent: Monday, January 28,
2002 10:52 AM
To:
team3s@stealth-3000gt.stSubject:
Team3S: Converting to an AWD
I have a 1991 Steatlh R/T FWD. I am
interested in converting it to an AWD.
Anyone out there done it before? If
so, what kind of money can I expect to
spend on getting it done? Any reasons
why I shouldn't have it done?
Bill Hollifield
nxtkin@aol.com*** Info:
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Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 10:01:21
-0600
From:
overclck@ies.net (Cody
Graham)
Subject: RE: Team3S: Converting to an AWD
Too much... Save
your money, go sell your car and buy a VR4-TT
Seriously though, it will
cost $2500 minimum for the transmission alone,
then the transfer case, then
the rear differential, and half shafts, and
rear suspension, not to mention
the rear suspension mounting points that
need to be modified... You see
where I'm going with this??
- -Cody
- -----Original
Message-----
From:
owner-team3s@team3s.com
[mailto:owner-team3s@team3s.com] On Behalf
Of
Nxtkin@aol.comSent: Monday, January 28,
2002 9:52 AM
To:
team3s@stealth-3000gt.stSubject:
Team3S: Converting to an AWD
I have a 1991 Steatlh R/T FWD. I am
interested in converting it to an
AWD.
Anyone out there done it before?
If so, what kind of money can I expect
to
spend on getting it done? Any
reasons why I shouldn't have it done?
Bill Hollifield
nxtkin@aol.com*** Info:
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Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 17:28:32
+0100
From: Roger Gerl <
roger.gerl@bluewin.ch>
Subject:
Team3S: OT : Turbo car meeting in Switzerland
To all european Team3S
members and their turbo-friends :
Informal Swiss Meeting
Date :
09.02.2002 (2002 February 02)
Time : 10:00
Where : Autobahnraststätte
Würenlos
Highway rest area, between Bern & Zürich
Restaurant
Mövenpick
Note You can walk on both sides of the rest area
GPS E
8°20'49.279" / N47°26'19.334"
Goal : Discuss everything about turbo
performance cars / parts / tricks, etc.
This event is setup by a group of
friends who all drive a Nissan 300ZX TT,
but it is fully
open to other
turbo performance cars, 300/3000/Z/Zx/Supra/Evo/Rx-7/S2000
etc etc
etc
Languages : French, English & German will be there .. others are
welcome
Bring with you a great attitude, humor and enthusiasm, as well as
tips &
tricks about the cars.
If you need something something (like a
diag, or spare parts) just let us know.
Please avoid anything like loud
mouth, strong opinion, "I want to race in
the streets",
"my car is better
than yours" ... you got the point ! If anyone wants to
race each
other,
then only about 15 minutes away is an indoor go-cart track at
Spreitenbach.
Participation : Just drop an email to
VG30DETT@Compuserve.cominclude
name, car model, and if possible your mobile phone number.
(to help you find
the place if you get lost)
Please spread this email to our turbo-friends
allover the place and for
sure we'll have great fun !
Zee you
there
Henri, 300ZX TT, Dodge Stealth R/T and more
Roger 3000GT TT
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Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 09:10:24
-0800 (PST)
From: Jeff Lucius <
stealthman92@yahoo.com>
Subject:
Team3S: Compressor flow maps for 3S owners
I have a new web page
available with compressor flow maps for our
cars and an explanation of how to
read and interpret them. The flow
maps include the "raw" maps as available
from the manufacturer, these
same maps cleaned up and re-scaled for CFM, and
the maps with engine
demand lines drawn on them. I think there is something
there for
everyone.
http://www.geocities.com/lutransys/jlucius5/j5-2-3s-compflowmaps.htmPlease
let me know if I have missed something or obfuscated a topic
beyond
comprehension. :)
Thanks.
Jeff Lucius,
http://www.stealth316.com/***
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Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 12:10:58
EST
From:
ThorHolth@aol.comSubject: Team3S:
re:front end conversion
Cody: where did you get your parts? I have been
looking for a replacement
rear bumper cover for my '91 R/T Turbo, and wanted
to update it to the second
gen. cover.
- -thor
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Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 12:16:37
-0700
From: "Will Fortenberry" <
BigWill_VR4@hotmail.com>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: Question about front end conversion
Along the same lines, can
one put the '99 headlights (not side markers) into
a 2nd gen bumper without
major modifications? Do the wiring harnesses
hook
up?
Thanks,
Will
94 VR-4
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Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 14:12:27
-0500
From: "Aamer" <
aamer@thepentagon.com>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: "Floppy Clutch Pedal" Post-Mortem
Nah, I wouldn't worry about
that too much. When my slave cylinder blew, I
was leaking fluid very slowly
also. Driving around 30 miles on an average
day, I would only have to add
fluid maybe every week, if I recall correctly.
When I pulled out the slave
cylinder, I took off the boot that went around
it and a bunch of fluid just
poured right out of it. But other than that, it
didn't leak too
badly.
Aamer Abbas
'94 3000GT (DOHC -- Naturally Aspirated)
email:
aamer@thepentagon.comfax: (707)
982-8817 [add +1 country code if faxing from outside the
United
States]
- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Cooper"
<
scooper@paradise.net.nz>
To:
"Team3s Tech List" <
Team3s@stealth-3000gt.st>
Sent:
Monday, January 28, 2002 3:33 AM
Subject: Re: Team3S: "Floppy Clutch Pedal"
Post-Mortem
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Just wanted to
let folks know that y'all called it right: the slave
> cylinder
>
> had blown out. My fluid reservoir was nearly full, so I hadn't run
out
of
> > fluid.
>
> That sounds a bit strange because
if your slave cylinder had blown out you
> would have lost fluid and your
reservoir would have been empty, unless you
> had topped it up of course
and left air in the line. I just hope it wasn't
> one of these dodgey
places that charges you for "imaginary " work done.
>
>
Steve
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Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 14:17:29
-0500
From: "Aamer" <
aamer@thepentagon.com>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: Compressor flow maps for 3S owners
Jeff, I went to your link
and you have five topics listed at the top of the
page, but there is nothing
below the second topic. Is this a known issue or
something? I'm pretty sure
it's not my browser because I opened the page
with two different browsers and
had the same problem (I used Internet
Explorer 6 and Opera 6).
Aamer
Abbas
'94 3000GT (DOHC -- Naturally Aspirated)
email:
aamer@thepentagon.comfax: (707)
982-8817 [add +1 country code if faxing from outside the
United
States]
- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeff Lucius"
<
stealthman92@yahoo.com>
To:
<
team3s@stealth-3000gt.st>
Sent:
Monday, January 28, 2002 12:10 PM
Subject: Team3S: Compressor flow maps for
3S owners
> I have a new web page available with compressor flow maps
for our
> cars and an explanation of how to read and interpret them. The
flow
> maps include the "raw" maps as available from the manufacturer,
these
> same maps cleaned up and re-scaled for CFM, and the maps with
engine
> demand lines drawn on them. I think there is something there
for
> everyone.
>
>
http://www.geocities.com/lutransys/jlucius5/j5-2-3s-compflowmaps.htm>
>
Please let me know if I have missed something or obfuscated a topic
>
beyond comprehension. :)
>
> Thanks.
>
> Jeff Lucius,
http://www.stealth316.com/***
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Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 13:55:54
-0600
From: "Black, Dave (ICT)" <
dblai@allstate.com>
Subject: RE:
Team3S: Diagnosing knock vs. spark blowout?
Todd,
I still have
stock fuel system. Also, I have a 95VR4 and as I have been
told, I'm
not able to use TMO or any type of datalogging for that matter....
Any
other thoughts?
Dave 95VR4
http://www.daveblack.net>
-----Original Message-----
> From: Todd D.Shelton
[SMTP:tds@brightok.net]
> Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 9:09 PM
>
To: Team 3S
> Subject: Re: Team3S: Diagnosing knock vs. spark
blowout?
>
> >The problem is as follows:
> >basically I
have a somewhat inconsistent problem with losing a lot of
> power
>
>at about 4500rpm - 5500rpm in 2nd gear. Sometimes if I hammer it
down
> the
> >car will get up to 4500-5500rpm and sputter and
really lose power. I
> have
> a
> >K&N FIPK,
Apexi S-AVCR @ 1.0 bar and Borla exhaust. The car appears to
>
>drive fine after the sputtering occurs - unfortunately I've already
lost
> the
> >race...LOL
> >
> >>From what I
have heard, it sounds to me like either knock or spark
> blowout.
>
>I had the plugs changed and "supposedly" regapped to .034 about 7000
mi
> ago.
> >I have not yet changed the plug wires so I think it
could also be that.
> >
> >My question is how I do
differentiate between knock and spark blowout?
>
>
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Injector size is not listed but I have hit fuel cut at ~ 1bar with
stock
> injectors
> in colder weather/ambient temps.
>
> With larger 550+ injectors you shouldn't see fuel cut this low
-
> at least I never have with a VPC. There have been
conditions
> which caused knock in this range and the effects were as
described.
>
> There's no doubt when datalogging with the TMO
...
>
> - tds
>
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Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 15:48:12
-0500
From: "Berrios, Victor L CIV" <
VLBerrios@rroads.med.navy.mil>
Subject:
RE: Team3S: Question about front end conversion
Hi Will
A lot of the
guys in the 3si board has done this. I read in one threat that
the harness
fit OK.
Search on the 3si files and you'll find a lot of information
about the 99
conversion (1st & 2nd generation.
I'm planning on doing
the complete conversion (lights, side markers,
front
bumper)
Here is a quote I got from "Conicelli Mitsu"
From: "John Roche" <
jroche@conicelliautoplex.com>
>
To: "SERVICE" <
jmonteleone@conicelliautoplex.com>
>
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 8:08 PM
> Subject: Re: Parts Order -
Conicelli Mitsubishi
>
> > sir,
> > the bumper cover is
$380.45
> > the headlamps are $445.50 each
> > the side
markers are $53.25 each and shipping would probably run around
45
>
> to 50 dollars
> > thank you
> > conicelli mitsu parts
dept.
Good luck and let us know how it turns out.
Victor
'96
Peal White 3KGT VR-4
In process of '99 conversion.
- -----Original
Message-----
From: Will Fortenberry [mailto:BigWill_VR4@hotmail.com]
Sent:
Monday, January 28, 2002 7:17 PM
To: Cody Graham; 'Jannusch, Matt';
Team3S
Subject: Re: Team3S: Question about front end conversion
Along
the same lines, can one put the '99 headlights (not side markers) into
a 2nd
gen bumper without major modifications? Do the wiring harnesses
hook
up?
Thanks,
Will
94 VR-4
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Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 12:26:59
-0800
From: Damon Rachell <
damonr@mefas.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S:
Diagnosing knock vs. spark blowout?
Try getting some 100 or 104 octane
gas and adding 2-3 gallons to a tank.
If the problem goes away, it's
caused by knocking and you'll have to
reduce your boost. Also, try a
fuel injector cleaner like redline SI-1,
not SI-2 (much weaker). Add a
bottle to a full tank and that should
take care of any clogging in the
injectors and some of the carbon
deposits in the combustion chamber.
This really helped my heistation
when I had it. (or should I say,
still have it). I use 103 octane (3
gallons) per full tank of 91
because 91 is allwe can get in southern
california (I hate
regulations).
Damon
Black, Dave (ICT) wrote:
> Todd,
>
> I still have stock fuel system. Also, I have a 95VR4 and as I
have been
> told, I'm not able to use TMO or any type of datalogging for
that matter....
>
> Any other thoughts?
>
> Dave
95VR4
>
http://www.daveblack.net>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Todd D.Shelton
[SMTP:tds@brightok.net]
>>Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 9:09
PM
>>To: Team 3S
>>Subject: Re: Team3S: Diagnosing knock vs.
spark blowout?
>>
>>>The problem is as
follows:
>>>basically I have a somewhat inconsistent problem with
losing a lot of
>>>
>>power
>>
>>>at
about 4500rpm - 5500rpm in 2nd gear. Sometimes if I hammer it
down
>>>
>>the
>>
>>>car will get up
to 4500-5500rpm and sputter and really lose power.
I
>>>
>>have
>>a
>>
>>>K&N
FIPK, Apexi S-AVCR @ 1.0 bar and Borla exhaust. The car appears
to
>>>drive fine after the sputtering occurs - unfortunately I've
already
lost
>>>
>>the
>>
>>>race...LOL
>>>
>>>>From
what I have heard, it sounds to me like either knock or
spark
>>>
>>blowout.
>>
>>>I had the
plugs changed and "supposedly" regapped to .034 about 7000
mi
>>>
>>ago.
>>
>>>I have not yet
changed the plug wires so I think it could also be
that.
>>>
>>>My question is how I do differentiate
between knock and spark
blowout?
>>>
>>--------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>Injector
size is not listed but I have hit fuel cut at ~ 1bar with
stock
>>injectors
>>in colder weather/ambient
temps.
>>
>>With larger 550+ injectors you shouldn't see fuel
cut this low -
>>at least I never have with a VPC. There have
been conditions
>>which caused knock in this range and the effects were
as described.
>>
>>There's no doubt when datalogging with the
TMO ...
>>
>>
>>-
tds
>>http://www.brightok.net/~tds
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Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 21:41:27
+0100
From: "Roger Gerl" <
roger.gerl@bluewin.ch>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: Diagnosing knock vs. spark blowout?
> I am having a small
problem that I am unsure how to diagnose. I am
thinking
> the
issue is either knock or spark blowout. How do I
differentiate
between
> the two?
As some already stated, to
differentiate is not easy at all. Just some
add-ons :
- - The first
things to do is indeed cleaning the injectors and other fuel
related
stuff.
- - Next is to check out the fuel pump relay below the MAS and clean
it's
conenctions.
- - If everything is fine try to borrow an A/F meter to
see if you have a fuel
starvation in this area.
- - If fuel is ok
ignition comes in mind. Remove the front plugs for
inspection and check the
wires.
- - Clean boots and contacts with an electrical cleaner fluid
- -
Also the coils come in mind as they get weaker over the years.
- -
Finally, the stock BPV could become a problem due to it's age. It
always
leaks a little as it is designed to do so for smooth operation but
often it
is also know to leak more and therefore acts as a boost leak in the
intake
what may cause such hesitations.
- - Last but not least check
the batteries voltage at the problematic rpms as
I had this problem on a
clints car and voltage fell to 11.3 volts around 5k.
Replacing the battery
solved all problems.
Hope this helps.
Roger
93'3000GT TT
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Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 15:10:09
-0600
From: "Jannusch, Matt" <
mjannusch@marketwatch.com>
Subject:
Team3S: Anyone need a VR4 motor?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/aw-cgi/ebayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=600858688&
r=0&t=0
I
don't know anything about it, other than it looks like a stock 2nd
gen
motor... Just noticed it when surfing around on eBay. It is
listed as
"complete", so I'd imagine it comes with turbos and such.
-
-Matt
'95 3000GT Spyder VR4
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Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 15:14:28
-0600
From: "Willis, Charles E." <
cewillis@TexasChildrensHospital.org>
Subject:
Team3S: You won't believe this extended warranty story!
I bought a bumper
to bumper extended warranty from
GS Administrators in Houston, Texas
on
my '94 VR4 with 53K miles to last 4 years or 50K miles.
I have about 70K
on the car now. I replaced the clutch last fall. At that
time,
the Clutch Shop told me the synchros were failing and I should think
about
having the tranny rebuilt. So I drove around for a while and then
took
it in to the Mitsubishi Dealer for evaluation. GS Administrators
sent
an independent inspector out who say the synchros are wearing out -
normal
wear and tear, not covered. I have a request in for a copy of
the
inspection report. Dan told me there is nothing to cover because
there is
no broken part. I asked if I could drive it until it
failed
catastrophically, and then it would be covered, and he said basically,
yes.
Can you believe this? I wonder what else I wil break in the
process?
Chuck
P.S. They covered replacement of the front
right wheel hub, which was nice.
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Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 15:27:03
-0600
From: Merritt <
merritt@cedar-rapids.net>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: You won't believe this extended warranty story!
Dan told me
there is nothing to cover because there is
>no broken part. I asked
if I could drive it until it failed
>catastrophically, and then it would
be covered, and he said basically, yes.
>
So go out and break it. A few
full-throttle clutchless shifts oughta do it.
Rich
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Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 13:45:07
-0800 (PST)
From: Geoff Mohler <
gemohler@www.speedtoys.com>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: You won't believe this extended warranty story!
Nothin..just
the tranny.
However, keep everything in writing, and ask for written
explanation of
what "normal wear and tear" on a transmission is..in thier own
words. I
sense legal battle here when it does fail..and thier
definition of wear &
tear on a tranny probly doesnt match what any
reasonable professional
opinion would be.
On Mon, 28 Jan 2002,
Willis, Charles E. wrote:
> I bought a bumper to bumper extended
warranty from
> GS Administrators in Houston, Texas
> on my '94 VR4
with 53K miles to last 4 years or 50K miles.
>
> I have about 70K
on the car now. I replaced the clutch last fall. At that
>
time, the Clutch Shop told me the synchros were failing and I should
think
> about having the tranny rebuilt. So I drove around for a
while and then
> took it in to the Mitsubishi Dealer for evaluation.
GS Administrators sent
> an independent inspector out who say the synchros
are wearing out - normal
> wear and tear, not covered. I have a
request in for a copy of the
> inspection report. Dan told me there
is nothing to cover because there is
> no broken part. I asked if I
could drive it until it failed
> catastrophically, and then it would be
covered, and he said basically, yes.
>
> Can you believe
this? I wonder what else I wil break in the process?
>
>
Chuck
>
> P.S. They covered replacement of the front right
wheel hub, which was nice.
- ---
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Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 13:49:44
-0800 (PST)
From: Geoff Mohler <
gemohler@www.speedtoys.com>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: You won't believe this extended warranty story!
I'll explain
what I mean more here..
If you have grinding while shifting..thats not
normal wear and tear.
If you dont..I dont see what the problem would
be..that you called
about..unless it was just on your mechanics good
word. (Which is ok..they
may well be going bad, just are they grinding
or not.)
On Mon, 28 Jan 2002, Geoff Mohler wrote:
>
Nothin..just the tranny.
>
> However, keep everything in writing,
and ask for written explanation of
> what "normal wear and tear" on a
transmission is..in thier own words. I
> sense legal battle here
when it does fail..and thier definition of wear &
> tear on a tranny
probly doesnt match what any reasonable professional
> opinion would be.
>
> On Mon, 28 Jan 2002, Willis, Charles E. wrote:
>
> > I bought a bumper to bumper extended warranty from
> >
GS Administrators in Houston, Texas
> > on my '94 VR4 with 53K miles to
last 4 years or 50K miles.
> >
> > I have about 70K on the
car now. I replaced the clutch last fall. At that
> > time,
the Clutch Shop told me the synchros were failing and I should think
>
> about having the tranny rebuilt. So I drove around for a while and
then
> > took it in to the Mitsubishi Dealer for evaluation. GS
Administrators sent
> > an independent inspector out who say the
synchros are wearing out - normal
> > wear and tear, not covered.
I have a request in for a copy of the
> > inspection report. Dan
told me there is nothing to cover because there is
> > no broken
part. I asked if I could drive it until it failed
> >
catastrophically, and then it would be covered, and he said basically,
yes.
> >
> > Can you believe this? I wonder what else I
wil break in the process?
> >
> > Chuck
> >
>
> P.S. They covered replacement of the front right wheel hub, which was
nice.
> Geoff Mohler
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Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 14:06:00
-0700
From: "Mike & Cathy" <
micajoco@theofficenet.com>
Subject:
Team3S: 95 2gen motor
Just saw Matts posting on a 95 vr-4 in ebay. Would
this motor swap in a 92
r/t with out the any other changes?
Mike S 92 rt
tt
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Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 08:18:41
+1000
From:
M.Korsinczky@mailbox.uq.edu.auSubject:
Team3S: PARTS
Hey all
I desperately need a boss-head kit for my
1991 GTO.
I also need a starter motor, left front lower control arm and
left side electric
window unit (small plastic piece).
Please respond
ASAP if you have these for sale.
Thanks
Michael
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Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 16:33:18
-0600
From: "Jannusch, Matt" <
mjannusch@marketwatch.com>
Subject:
RE: Team3S: 95 2gen motor
> Just saw Matts posting on a 95 vr-4 in
ebay. Would this motor
> swap in a 92 r/t with out the any other changes?
Mike S 92 rt tt
There would probably be "some" modifications. I'm
not familiar with it
myself, but you might need the '95 ECU and some wiring
patches to get all
the sensors to work right and such. The '95 motor
will have a cam angle
sensor on the rear exhaust cam, and a crank
sensor. If that'll work on a
'92 then you are in good shape for pretty
much just bolting the thing in.
- -Matt
'95 3000GT Spyder
VR4
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Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 17:32:42
-0500
From: "Joe Gonsowski" <
twinturbo@mediaone.net>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: Compressor flow maps for 3S owners
Very nice site, I bet
you'll be getting more hits from DSM and other MHI
turbo users than 3S once
the word spreads. For future reference, will you
be linking this to
your Garage or Technical Page?
Thanks once again for taking the
time.
Later,
Joe G.
- ----- Original Message -----
From:
"Jeff Lucius" <
stealthman92@yahoo.com>
To:
<
team3s@stealth-3000gt.st>
Sent:
Monday, January 28, 2002 12:10 PM
Subject: Team3S: Compressor flow maps for
3S owners
> I have a new web page available with compressor flow maps
for our
> cars and an explanation of how to read and interpret them. The
flow
> maps include the "raw" maps as available from the manufacturer,
these
> same maps cleaned up and re-scaled for CFM, and the maps with
engine
> demand lines drawn on them. I think there is something there
for
> everyone.
>
>
http://www.geocities.com/lutransys/jlucius5/j5-2-3s-compflowmaps.htm>
>
Please let me know if I have missed something or obfuscated a topic
>
beyond comprehension. :)
>
> Thanks.
>
> Jeff Lucius,
http://www.stealth316.com/***
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Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 10:57:39
-0500
From: "Darren Schilberg" <
dschilberg@pobox.com>
Subject: RE:
Team3S: Converting to an AWD
If anyone has done this their recommendation
has usually been to sell
your FWD and BUY an AWD. Don't think a FWD
will generally like the AWD
conversion.
You will need a center
differential, rear differential, and steering
components for the All-Wheel
Steering. Then a driveshaft to the back, a
six-speed tranny (second gen
VR-4s and up), intercoolers, turbos, the
works.
Also, the non-turbos
were not made as stiff or heavy to take the abuse.
I'm sure spring rates are
completely different, body chassis design,
anti-sway bars, etc.
People
have done a 5-speed to a 6-speed conversion but it was already
Turbo (like a
first gen Stealth TT to a 6-speed TT tranny). Don't think
a FWD to AWD
is cost effective. Find a turbo with high mileage and
spend your
$5k-$10k updating the engine and tranny if anything.
- --Flash!
1995
VR-4
- -----Original Message-----
From:
Nxtkin@aol.comSent: Monday, January 28,
2002 10:52
I have a 1991 Steatlh R/T FWD. I am interested in
converting it to an
AWD.
Anyone out there done it before? If so, what
kind of money can I expect
to
spend on getting it done? Any reasons why I
shouldn't have it done?
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Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 20:09:43
-0800
From: "Ken Middaugh" <
kmiddaugh@ixpres.com>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: 95 2gen motor
The easiest way to do this swap is to keep the 1st
gen heads. That way, you
can keep the camshaft angle sensor (CAS) and
just plug in to your existing
harness, and use the existing ECU.
Actually, you only really need the 1st
gen camshaft set since it has the
correct "bung" to drive the CAS. You
could install these cams into the
2nd gen heads if you want.
Ken Middaugh
'91 VR4 with 4-bolt main
conversion
- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike & Cathy"
<
micajoco@theofficenet.com>
To:
"team3s stealth-3000gt" <
team3s@stealth-3000gt.st>
Sent:
Monday, January 28, 2002 1:06 PM
Subject: Team3S: 95 2gen motor
>
Just saw Matts posting on a 95 vr-4 in ebay. Would this motor swap in a
92
> r/t with out the any other changes?
> Mike S 92 rt
tt
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Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 06:52:28
-0500
From: "Berrios, Victor L CIV" <
VLBerrios@rroads.med.navy.mil>
Subject:
RE: Team3S: Question about front end conversion
Jim:
Yes it's
possible. Everything fix OK.
Check this thread
http://www.3si.org/vbb/showthread.php?s=8c7ec46a027b333f93ca6024a788e50a&threadid=62162&highlight=99+conversion
Enjoy
the conversion
Victor
'96 Pearl White 3KGT VR-4
In process of '99
conversion
- -----Original Message-----
From: Floyd, Jim
[mailto:Jim_Floyd@maxtor.com]
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 7:58 PM
To:
'Berrios, Victor L CIV'
Subject: RE: Team3S: Question about front end
conversion
I have a '95 VR4.
Is it possible to just install the '99
headlight and keep the rest
of my front end ?
- -----Original
Message-----
From: Berrios, Victor L CIV
[mailto:VLBerrios@rroads.med.navy.mil]
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 1:48
PM
To:
'Team3s@stealth-3000gt.st'Subject:
RE: Team3S: Question about front end conversion
Hi Will
A lot of the
guys in the 3si board has done this. I read in one threat that
the harness
fit OK.
Search on the 3si files and you'll find a lot of information
about the 99
conversion (1st & 2nd generation.
I'm planning on doing
the complete conversion (lights, side markers,
front
bumper)
Here is a quote I got from "Conicelli Mitsu"
From: "John Roche" <
jroche@conicelliautoplex.com>
>
To: "SERVICE" <
jmonteleone@conicelliautoplex.com>
>
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 8:08 PM
> Subject: Re: Parts Order -
Conicelli Mitsubishi
>
>
> > sir,
> > the bumper
cover is $380.45
> > the headlamps are $445.50 each
> > the
side markers are $53.25 each and shipping would probably run
around
45
> > to 50 dollars
> > thank you
> >
conicelli mitsu parts dept.
Good luck and let us know how it turns out.
Victor
'96 Peal White 3KGT VR-4
In process of '99 conversion.
- -----Original Message-----
From: Will Fortenberry
[mailto:BigWill_VR4@hotmail.com]
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 7:17
PM
To: Cody Graham; 'Jannusch, Matt'; Team3S
Subject: Re: Team3S: Question
about front end conversion
Along the same lines, can one put the '99
headlights (not side markers) into
a 2nd gen bumper without major
modifications? Do the wiring harnesses hook
up?
Thanks,
Will
94
VR-4
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Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 07:56:18
-0500 (EST)
From:
pagan@siscom.netSubject: Team3S: Engine
smoke on decel
Greetings all.
I have posted this on the 3si web
board as well under the krank vent thread,
but wanted to throw it out here
for some expert opinion as well.
I have a 93 R/T TT that smokes primarily
when the car is decelerating. I
thought it might have been caused by
excessive crank case pressure and
bought a krank vent kit to fix it.
Well it appears that the krank vents are
doing there job as I don't have any
oil leaking from my stock oil cap any
longer, but I still have smoke on
deceleration.
The best way for me to make the car smoke is to run in 1st
gear to about 4k
and then let the car decelerate with the clutch engaged to
about 2500 and
then push in the clutch. When the car comes to a
complete stop, smoke
starts pouring out of the back. I have personally
always thought the smoke
was white with a blue hue, but a friend thought it
looked very white from
behind me the other day.
Also, if I run the car
up to 4k a few times in neutral after about the 3rd
time it will start to
smoke on the decel. If I run the car up in rpms in a
gear, let off and
then get back on the throttle it will blow a small cloud
of smoke out of the
exhaust.
If I start the car and let it idle (without running up the
engine rpms) it
doesn't smoke at all. The best that I can tell from
conversations and
knowing that crank case ventilation is probably not an
issue is that 1 or
both of my turbos are blowing some oil.
The car has
65k miles and the turbos were install late in June of last year.
I bought
them used but they had just received a fresh rebuild and had not
yet been
reinstalled. They were TEC 13G. I plan to pull the pipes
away
from the compressor housing and see if I can find some excessive shaft
play.
Any other ideas of what to check? Could this problem be head
related
instead of turbo related?
TIA.
Mark
'93 R/T
TT
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Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 07:02:25
-0800
From: "Jim Berry" <
fastmax@home.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S:
Engine smoke on decel
Could be valve stem seals --- deceleration causes
engine vacuum which tinds
to pull oil into the engine. A leakdown test could
give you some info as to
the
problem.
Jim
Berry
====================================================
- -----
Original Message -----
From:
pagan@siscom.net To:
team3s@team3s.com Greetings
all.
I have a 93 R/T TT that smokes primarily when the car is
decelerating. I
thought it might have been caused by excessive crank
case pressure and
bought a krank vent kit to fix it. Well it appears
that the krank vents are
doing there job as I don't have any oil leaking from
my stock oil cap any
longer, but I still have smoke on
deceleration.
The best way for me to make the car smoke is to run in 1st
gear to about 4k
and then let the car decelerate with the clutch engaged to
about 2500 and
then push in the clutch. When the car comes to a
complete stop, smoke
starts pouring out of the back. I have personally
always thought the smoke
was white with a blue hue, but a friend thought it
looked very white from
behind me the other day.
Mark
'93 R/T
TT
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Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 09:06:45
-0600
From:
overclck@ies.net (Cody
Graham)
Subject: RE: Team3S: Engine smoke on decel
My '95 Eclipse
Turbo did this also. It turned out to be a bad oil seal
in the
turbo. I would assume the same for yours. What happened was
any
time the engine was producing vacuum, the oil would pour into
the
intake, and when it had a chance, made it into the engine and out
the
exhaust as a bluish white smoke...
I think there is a possibility
of it being a bad head gasket too.
- -Cody
- -----Original
Message-----
From:
owner-team3s@team3s.com
[mailto:owner-team3s@team3s.com] On Behalf
Of
pagan@siscom.netSent: Tuesday, January
29, 2002 6:56 AM
To:
team3s@team3s.comSubject: Team3S: Engine
smoke on decel
Greetings all.
I have posted this on the 3si web
board as well under the krank vent
thread,
but wanted to throw it out here
for some expert opinion as well.
I have a 93 R/T TT that smokes primarily
when the car is decelerating.
I
thought it might have been caused by
excessive crank case pressure and
bought a krank vent kit to fix it.
Well it appears that the krank vents
are
doing there job as I don't have
any oil leaking from my stock oil cap
any
longer, but I still have smoke
on deceleration.
The best way for me to make the car smoke is to run in
1st gear to about
4k
and then let the car decelerate with the clutch
engaged to about 2500
and
then push in the clutch. When the car
comes to a complete stop, smoke
starts pouring out of the back. I have
personally always thought the
smoke
was white with a blue hue, but a
friend thought it looked very white
from
behind me the other
day.
Also, if I run the car up to 4k a few times in neutral after about
the
3rd
time it will start to smoke on the decel. If I run the car
up in rpms
in a
gear, let off and then get back on the throttle it will
blow a small
cloud
of smoke out of the exhaust.
If I start the car
and let it idle (without running up the engine rpms)
it
doesn't smoke at
all. The best that I can tell from conversations and
knowing that crank
case ventilation is probably not an issue is that 1
or
both of my turbos
are blowing some oil.
The car has 65k miles and the turbos were install
late in June of last
year.
I bought them used but they had just received a
fresh rebuild and had
not
yet been reinstalled. They were TEC
13G. I plan to pull the pipes away
from the compressor housing and see
if I can find some excessive shaft
play.
Any other ideas of what to
check? Could this problem be head related
instead of turbo
related?
TIA.
Mark
'93 R/T TT
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Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 10:20:43
-0500
From:
pvg1@daimlerchrysler.comSubject:
Re: Team3S: Diagnosing knock vs. spark blowout?
Yeah, this sucks. If you
fill 18 gallons per refueling then you fill 15
gallons of 91 octane and 3
gallons of 103 octane and you are only getting a
93 octane. This is like
overpaying almost $10 per each gas tank of the 93
octane. But at least you
are getting alcohol and water already included in
it for
free!
Philip
Damon Rachell <
damonr@mefas.com> wrote:
>I use 103
octane (3 gallons) per full tank of 91 because 91 is all
>we can get in
southern california (I hate regulations).
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Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 10:25:58
-0500
From: "Jeff VanOrsdal" <
jeffv@1nce.com>
Subject: Team3S: Manifold
question
Does anyone know the diameter of the exhaust outlet on a stock
TT exhaust
manifold? Thanks.
Jeff VanOrsdal
1991 Stealth ESX
Twin Turbo
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Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 09:57:34
-0600
From: "Willis, Charles E." <
cewillis@TexasChildrensHospital.org>
Subject:
Team3S: replacement of front and rear antisway bars on '94 VR4
I was
reading in the Service Manual about the antisway bar replacements to
get an
idea of how much work is involved. Appears that the front one
requires
removing the left and right crossmember as well as the front
exhaust
pipe. The rear one seems easier, but requires support to the
rear
differential and then lowering it a little to get the swaybar
out.
Has anybody out there done this (besides Jim Floyd's
mechanic)?
Chuck Willis
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