Team3S: 3000GT & Stealth   Monday, January 28 2002   Volume 01 : Number 738




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Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2002 09:47:27 -0600
From: overclck@ies.net (Cody Graham)
Subject: RE: Team3S: Speedometer

Darren - What I did...  Cause I know my speedometer is off...  Is, I
made a nice little table in Excel and found out the formulas for gear
ratio and engine rpm and tire circumference.  Now, all I have to do is
enter my engine RPM (as indicated by both the autometer tachometer and
the factory tach), and the gear which I'm in, and voila!, I get my
current speed.  I found that when my speedometer reads 125 mph, I am
actually traveling at 134.5 mph.  Sucks right....

Factory speedometers are always off it seems...  My Jeep Grand Cherokee
claims you are doing 70 when you are only doing 64...

- -Cody

- -----Original Message-----
From: owner-team3s@team3s.com [mailto:owner-team3s@team3s.com] On Behalf
Of Darren Schilberg
Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 11:15 PM
To: 'Team 3S List'
Subject: RE: Team3S: Speedometer

Similar question.  How accurate is everyone's odometer and trip odometer
to each other?  Mine are off slightly.  I thought it would be from the
winter 17" tires but with correct Plus Sizing (actually Minus Sizing
since I stepped down from stock size) I have maintained the correct
ratio.  That would not matter though since the speedometer is read off
of the moving internals and not the wheels.  Is this the same place the
trip odometer reads from?

I wanted to reset the car at the 80,000 mark and in 888.8 miles have a
nice 88,888 on the odometer and 888.8 on the trip odometer dial then
cruise at 88 mph and snap a picture ... that would be neat.

Problem is ... by the time I got 888 miles away from my zero mark (which
was actually 80,000) the odometer read 80,888.0 and the trip odometer
read (I believe) 888.8.  I'm rounding to show that in about 888 miles
the trip odometer was 0.8 miles ahead.  Not much I realize but in 1,000
miles this will mean the trip odometer is ahead by 1.0 mile (give or
take a few thousand feet).  Does anyone else have ideas about what
theirs reads after 500 or 1,000 miles of not resetting the trip
odometer?  Does that mean the speedometer is not accurate (like I am
doing 65 mph but the cop sees me at 60 mph or 70 mph ... hopefully the
lower number)?

And in 100,000 miles the car trip odometer will be off about 100.0
miles.  Ouch.

- --Flash!
1995 VR-4
Better gas mileage when compared to the trip than the real odometer

- -----Original Message-----
From: Stephen C. Kempf
Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 18:12
 
Here's a question I could use some feedback on. Recently the speedometer
on my 1995 Dodge Stealth ES (dual overhead cam V6). The service manuals
that I bought when I purchased the car say that the speedometer uses an
electronic controller rather than a cable to the engine. However, when I
took the car in for service, the mechanic says that it actually has a
mechanical cable and that's what needs to be replaced.

Can anyone offer any insight about this contradictory information? Did
early 1995s or perhaps late 1994s have a mechanical cable?

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Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2002 15:46:09 -0500
From: Anthony Melillo <anthonymelillo3@comcast.net>
Subject: Team3S: reccommendation on portable jump starter

I am looking at get one of those portable jump starters to keep in my VR-4, instead of dragging out the huge electric one we have.
Not that I have a problem with starting my car, I just want something in case of emergency.

But, I am not sure which one to buy.  I have seen a lot in the local Pep Boys, in Sears, some with compressor, some without.

I like the idea of having the compressor in case of emergency.  But are these things really that good ?  Will they start our cars if
the battery goes dead ?

I was looking around eBay and found a bunch but don't know if the generic ones are that good.

Any help will be greatly appreciated.  Thanks

 Anthony Melillo
1997 VR-4, Firestorm Red
http://www.members.home.com/anthonymelillo/3000gt.htm

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Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2002 14:56:46 -0600
From: "Christopher Deutsch" <crdeutsch@mn.mediaone.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S: reccommendation on portable jump starter

Haven't tried one to jump my car, but I like the accessory power (cigarette
lighter) feature.  I'd recommend getting one with this feature.
Christopher

- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Anthony Melillo" <anthonymelillo3@comcast.net>
To: "Team 3S List Submissions" <Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2002 2:46 PM
Subject: Team3S: reccommendation on portable jump starter

> I am looking at get one of those portable jump starters to keep in my
VR-4, instead of dragging out the huge electric one we have.
> Not that I have a problem with starting my car, I just want something in
case of emergency.
>
> But, I am not sure which one to buy.  I have seen a lot in the local Pep
Boys, in Sears, some with compressor, some without.
>
> I like the idea of having the compressor in case of emergency.  But are
these things really that good ?  Will they start our cars if
> the battery goes dead ?
>
> I was looking around eBay and found a bunch but don't know if the generic
ones are that good.
>
> Any help will be greatly appreciated.  Thanks
>
>  Anthony Melillo
> 1997 VR-4, Firestorm Red
> http://www.members.home.com/anthonymelillo/3000gt.htm

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Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2002 16:34:03 -0500
From: "Darren Schilberg" <dschilberg@pobox.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Speedometer

I know all factory systems are off but you say ours claims to be reading
lower than the real speed and the Cherokee is higher.  I would like to
know what our is (from others) to see if I need to slam on the brakes
when seeing a cop or just slow down gradually.

- -----Original Message-----
From: Cody Graham
Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2002 10:47

Darren - What I did...  Cause I know my speedometer is off...  Is, I
made a nice little table in Excel and found out the formulas for gear
ratio and engine rpm and tire circumference.  Now, all I have to do is
enter my engine RPM (as indicated by both the autometer tachometer and
the factory tach), and the gear which I'm in, and voila!, I get my
current speed.  I found that when my speedometer reads 125 mph, I am
actually traveling at 134.5 mph.  Sucks right....

Factory speedometers are always off it seems...  My Jeep Grand Cherokee
claims you are doing 70 when you are only doing 64...

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Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2002 22:50:23 +0000
From: apedenko@attbi.com
Subject: Re: Team3S: reccommendation on portable jump starter

Why not just get a dynabatt (take a look at Jeff
Lucius's page for info) and keep it in the trunk?
Charge it up once, and ur set. Plus it only weighs ~ 16#
and doesn't take up too much space.

  Alex.

'95 VR4

> Haven't tried one to jump my car, but I like the accessory power (cigarette
> lighter) feature.  I'd recommend getting one with this feature.
> Christopher
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Anthony Melillo" <anthonymelillo3@comcast.net>
> To: "Team 3S List Submissions" <Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
> Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2002 2:46 PM
> Subject: Team3S: reccommendation on portable jump starter
>
> > I am looking at get one of those portable jump starters to keep in my
> VR-4, instead of dragging out the huge electric one we have.
> > Not that I have a problem with starting my car, I just want something in
> case of emergency.
> >
> > But, I am not sure which one to buy.  I have seen a lot in the local Pep
> Boys, in Sears, some with compressor, some without.
> >
> > I like the idea of having the compressor in case of emergency.  But are
> these things really that good ?  Will they start our cars if
> > the battery goes dead ?
> >
> > I was looking around eBay and found a bunch but don't know if the generic
> ones are that good.
> >
> > Any help will be greatly appreciated.  Thanks
> >
> >  Anthony Melillo
> > 1997 VR-4, Firestorm Red
> > http://www.members.home.com/anthonymelillo/3000gt.htm

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Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2002 17:58:59 -0600
From: "Philip V. Glazatov" <gphilip@umich.edu>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Speedometer

Cody, the tire "rolling radius" used in such calculations is actually
smaller than tire circumference divided by 2*PI. The tire actually slips a
little when it rolls.

The most accurate way to measure speed is either to time yourself several
times between different mile markers, or to asks the cop (an honest cop
;-). Or just go to a drag strip and put your car in cruise control when you
reach 70 and see what they tell you. Your speed has to be constant at the
end of the strip thought the traps or it will not be calculated accurately.

Philip

At 09:47 AM 01/27/02, Cody Graham wrote:
>Darren - What I did...  Cause I know my speedometer is off...  Is, I
>made a nice little table in Excel and found out the formulas for gear
>ratio and engine rpm and tire circumference.  Now, all I have to do is
>enter my engine RPM (as indicated by both the autometer tachometer and
>the factory tach), and the gear which I'm in, and voila!, I get my
>current speed.  I found that when my speedometer reads 125 mph, I am
>actually traveling at 134.5 mph.  Sucks right....

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Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2002 18:15:54 EST
From: TJHTAX@aol.com
Subject: Fwd: Team3S: Speedometer

My Speedometer on a 1991 3000GT TT VR-4 reads 6 mph fast. At 66 I'm actually
going 60. I had heard at one time on the list that Mitsi did this on purpose
so that the warranty would run out sooner.
Tom

From: "Darren Schilberg" <dschilberg@pobox.com>
To: "'Team3S'" <team3s@mail.speedtoys.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Speedometer
Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2002 16:34:03 -0500

I know all factory systems are off but you say ours claims to be reading
lower than the real speed and the Cherokee is higher.  I would like to
know what our is (from others) to see if I need to slam on the brakes
when seeing a cop or just slow down gradually.

- -----Original Message-----
From: Cody Graham
Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2002 10:47

Darren - What I did...  Cause I know my speedometer is off...  Is, I
made a nice little table in Excel and found out the formulas for gear
ratio and engine rpm and tire circumference.  Now, all I have to do is
enter my engine RPM (as indicated by both the autometer tachometer and
the factory tach), and the gear which I'm in, and voila!, I get my
current speed.  I found that when my speedometer reads 125 mph, I am
actually traveling at 134.5 mph.  Sucks right....

Factory speedometers are always off it seems...  My Jeep Grand Cherokee
claims you are doing 70 when you are only doing 64...

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Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2002 18:19:11 -0500
From: "Joshua G. Prince" <joshua@unconundrum.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Speedometer

Is there anyway to calibrate the speedometer?  I placed colored gauges
in and I know the MPH is off but I am not sure how to properly calibrate
it.  Any info would be greatly appreciated.
 
Joshua Prince
97 1/2 Fly Yellow Hummer Convertible
3SI#0136
Microsoft Certified System Engineer
Joshua@Unconundrum.com
 
- -----Original Message-----
From: TJHTAX@aol.com [mailto:TJHTAX@aol.com]
Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2002 6:16 PM
To: 'Team3S'
Subject: Fwd: Team3S: Speedometer
 
My Speedometer on a 1991 3000GT TT VR-4 reads 6 mph fast. At 66 I'm
actually
going 60. I had heard at one time on the list that Mitsi did this on
purpose
so that the warranty would run out sooner.
Tom

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Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2002 18:21:20 -0500
From: "Adam Kuhn" <amkuhn@earthlink.net>
Subject: Team3S: Question about front end conversion

I am curious about the approximate cost of converting a 91-93 Stealth TT
front end into a 94-99 with the halogen lights...basically removing the
pop-up lights and replacing the front end with the matching front end for
the 2nd/3rd generation.  I have seen it done by one of the gentlemen at
Dynamic Racing with a 92 TT converted with a 99 3000GT front end and think
it looks awesome with the side door scoops of the 91-93 and the halogen
front end...If you know anything about this conversion please respond off
topic at amkuhn@earthlink.net

Thanks!

Adam Kuhn
Currently selling my 1995 3000GT Base
Looking to buy a black 93/94 Stealth TT

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Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2002 17:52:38 -0600
From: overclck@ies.net (Cody Graham)
Subject: RE: Team3S: Question about front end conversion

You mean something like this

http://63.100.94.113/~prac/complete1.jpg

I spent:

$600 - Carbon Fiber Hood
$400 - Great deal on a used pair of headlights
$375 - 99 Front Bumper
$105 - 99 Front Turn Signals

$Labor - Did it all myself.. included cutting out the headlight buckets,
and making new brackets to fit.... 

Rear end conversion - $350 for the bumper, '99 Center cost $75 I
think...

- -Cody

- -----Original Message-----
From: owner-team3s@team3s.com [mailto:owner-team3s@team3s.com] On Behalf
Of Adam Kuhn
Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2002 5:21 PM
To: TEAM3S
Subject: Team3S: Question about front end conversion

I am curious about the approximate cost of converting a 91-93 Stealth TT
front end into a 94-99 with the halogen lights...basically removing the
pop-up lights and replacing the front end with the matching front end
for
the 2nd/3rd generation.  I have seen it done by one of the gentlemen at
Dynamic Racing with a 92 TT converted with a 99 3000GT front end and
think
it looks awesome with the side door scoops of the 91-93 and the halogen
front end...If you know anything about this conversion please respond
off
topic at amkuhn@earthlink.net

Thanks!

Adam Kuhn
Currently selling my 1995 3000GT Base
Looking to buy a black 93/94 Stealth TT

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Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2002 19:05:42 -0500
From: Mike <mike21b@dejazzd.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Question about front end conversion

Looks good, but what I wanna know is what wheels are they?

Cody Graham wrote:

> You mean something like this
>
> http://63.100.94.113/~prac/complete1.jpg

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Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2002 21:06:35 -0500
From: "Dennis and Anita Moore" <stealth@quixnet.net>
Subject: Team3S: "Floppy Clutch Pedal" Post-Mortem

Hi all,

Just wanted to let folks know that y'all called it right: the slave cylinder
had blown out.  My fluid reservoir was nearly full, so I hadn't run out of
fluid.

Question: while the shop was working on the clutch hydraulics, they
discovered what I'd suspected, that my clutch was pretty much shot.  Rather
than replace it with OEM (or one of the performance upgrades), I authorized
them to put in a Borg-Warner replacement which they recommended over OEM.
If I'd insisted on something different, it would have been another day or
two while they waited on parts.  Any thoughts on whether or not that was a
good decision?  The car is a daily driver, no mods, no racing.

Also, a "lesson learned": if your clutch is barely working, and you can't
shift it into gear while the engine is running, put it in gear before you
start it.  Instead of sending a tow truck for my immobile car, they came out
and did that little trick to get it to the shop.  Saved me $50.  (OK, that
may be an old trick, but I learn something new every day...)

Dennis Moore
93 Stealth ES
136K and only 3 unscheduled maintenance events
(odd that 2 were for clutches and the third for a tranny...)

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Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2002 21:45:49 -0600
From: Merritt <merritt@cedar-rapids.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S: "Floppy Clutch Pedal" Post-Mortem

>
>Also, a "lesson learned": if your clutch is barely working, and you can't
>shift it into gear while the engine is running, put it in gear before you
>start it.  Instead of sending a tow truck for my immobile car, they came out
>and did that little trick to get it to the shop.  Saved me $50.  (OK, that
>may be an old trick, but I learn something new every day...)
>
Here's an  old rally trick: Driving a car that has a nonfunctioning clutch
(can't disengage it, for whatever reason, such as a broken hydrualic line,
broken pedal, etc). Shut it off, put it in 1st gear, and crank it up IN
GEAR!  It will start and lurch off, and you'll be able to shift it without
the clutch. If you come to a stoplight, slip it into neutral, stop the car,
shut off the engine, put it in 1st, and do it again. Like I said, this is
an old rally trick. With today's cars, that require the clutch to be
depressed before starting, you might have a problem with a broken pedal.

Rich/slow old poop

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Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2002 23:32:14 -0600
From: "Jannusch, Matt" <mjannusch@marketwatch.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Speedometer

> Is there anyway to calibrate the speedometer?  I placed
> colored gauges in and I know the MPH is off but I am not
> sure how to properly calibrate it.  Any info would be
> greatly appreciated.

Use a GPS.  Set the cruise at a certain speed, let the GPS average out the
speed for a few miles and you'll have a great idea of how far off your
speedometer is.  They are fairly common these days, chances are good that
one of your friends owns one.

There are usually different calibration gears that you can put in to correct
the speedo, but I haven't done it on one of these cars so no guarantees.
That's usually how its done though.

- -Matt
'95 3000GT Spyder VR4

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Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 00:51:10 -0600
From: "Philip V. Glazatov" <gphilip@umich.edu>
Subject: Re: Team3S: "Floppy Clutch Pedal" Post-Mortem

Will all my previous cars I could just push the car and then jump into it
and pop it into gear. I even was able to jump start them like that if the
battery was dead. But it is too hard to do that on this 2-ton AWD car.

I can confirm that Rich's start-in-gear method works too. I installed a
remote starter on my last car that had a manual transmission. I used to put
my cars in 1st gear when I parked and I was afraid that I would try to
remotely start my car in gear one day. I ordered a proximity switch and
other things in order to make it non-startable in gear, but in the meantime
I just thought I would be careful. So that very week I walk out of a
supermarket, press both buttons to start the car and... it drives off
without me, scratching the whole right side against the light pole, and
keeps driving until it finally figures out that I have been trying to shut
it off pressing on all the buttons on my remote. $900 worth of damage. I
was glad that it was late and there were almost no cars or people on that
parking lot. So, I guess I just wanted to say that starting in gear
sometimes works oh too well.

Philip

At 09:45 PM 01/27/02, Merritt wrote:
> >Also, a "lesson learned": if your clutch is barely working, and you can't
> >shift it into gear while the engine is running, put it in gear before you
> >start it.  Instead of sending a tow truck for my immobile car, they came out
> >and did that little trick to get it to the shop.  Saved me $50.  (OK, that
> >may be an old trick, but I learn something new every day...)
> >
>Here's an  old rally trick: Driving a car that has a nonfunctioning clutch
>(can't disengage it, for whatever reason, such as a broken hydrualic line,
>broken pedal, etc). Shut it off, put it in 1st gear, and crank it up IN
>GEAR!  It will start and lurch off, and you'll be able to shift it without
>the clutch. If you come to a stoplight, slip it into neutral, stop the car,
>shut off the engine, put it in 1st, and do it again. Like I said, this is
>an old rally trick. With today's cars, that require the clutch to be
>depressed before starting, you might have a problem with a broken pedal.

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Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 00:15:14 -0600
From: Merritt <merritt@cedar-rapids.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S: "Floppy Clutch Pedal" Post-Mortem

>l. So that very week I walk out of a
>supermarket, press both buttons to start the car and... it drives off
>without me, scratching the whole right side against the light pole, and
>keeps driving until it finally figures out that I have been trying to shut
>it off pressing on all the buttons on my remote. $900 worth of damage.

Now THAT'S a GREAT STORY!

My story is not nearly as cool. I broke the clutch pedal on my Pinto, and
had to use the 1st gear start technique to get the thing to the dealer in
rush hour traffic. Nearly ran the battery down, but it made it. Dang
cheapass clutch pedal just flat snapped off one day in traffic.

Rich/slow old poop

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Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2002 22:32:46 -0800
From: Damon Rachell <damonr@mefas.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: "Floppy Clutch Pedal" Post-Mortem

Isn't that why they call crappy cars "pintos"?  J/K.

Merritt wrote:

>>l. So that very week I walk out of a
>>supermarket, press both buttons to start the car and... it drives off
>>without me, scratching the whole right side against the light pole, and
>>keeps driving until it finally figures out that I have been trying to shut
>>it off pressing on all the buttons on my remote. $900 worth of damage.
>>
>
> Now THAT'S a GREAT STORY!
>
> My story is not nearly as cool. I broke the clutch pedal on my Pinto, and
> had to use the 1st gear start technique to get the thing to the dealer in
> rush hour traffic. Nearly ran the battery down, but it made it. Dang
> cheapass clutch pedal just flat snapped off one day in traffic.
>
> Rich/slow old poop

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Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 00:47:19 -0600
From: "Jannusch, Matt" <mjannusch@marketwatch.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Question about front end conversion

Cody Graham wrote:

> You mean something like this
>
> http://63.100.94.113/~prac/complete1.jpg

Do the stock '95-98 lights work with the '99 front end components?  If you
already had a good set of headlights (and didn't necessarily want the
bubbled-out '99 lights) could you just get the '99 turnsignal/marker lamp
assemblies and the bumper cover?

My bumper cover is starting to take some abuse, maybe the '99 conversion for
the front would be interesting.  What sorts of work does it take?  I'd
imagine the hardest part of the whole thing would be finding a good enough
body shop to match the pearlescent white from my car to the new bumper
cover.

- -Matt
'95 3000GT Spyder VR4

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Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 00:53:55 -0600
From: "Jannusch, Matt" <mjannusch@marketwatch.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Question about front end conversion

> Do the stock '95-98 lights work with the '99
> front end components?

Oh, duh.  I looked at the picture again and realized that Cody didn't use
'99 headlights, so I answered my own question.

- -Matt
'95 3000GT Spyder VR4

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Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 21:33:02 +1300
From: "Steve Cooper" <scooper@paradise.net.nz>
Subject: Re: Team3S: "Floppy Clutch Pedal" Post-Mortem

> Hi all,
>
> Just wanted to let folks know that y'all called it right: the slave
cylinder
> had blown out.  My fluid reservoir was nearly full, so I hadn't run out of
> fluid.

That sounds a bit strange because if your slave cylinder had blown out you
would have lost fluid and your reservoir would have been empty, unless you
had topped it up of course and left air in the line. I just hope it wasn't
one of these dodgey places that charges you for "imaginary " work done.

Steve

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Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 21:36:14 +1300
From: "Steve Cooper" <scooper@paradise.net.nz>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Speedometer

I went to a speed run just before christmas. My speed on the police laser
was 223Km/h, about 140 MPH, my speedo was showing 150MPH.

Steve

PS the track was far too short.

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Date: 28 Jan 2002 07:14:53 MST
From: Mark Creekmore <mcreekmore@usa.net>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Pocket Logger Data Transfer

If you used the standard directories when you installed HotSync, there should
be a Palm subdirectory off of the root or program files. Under that directory,
there will be a directory that is your name or the name that you used to
register the Palm. Under that directory there is a directory called backup.
The backup directory should contain all of the files that are on your Palm.

Mark

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From: owner-team3s@team3s.com [mailto:owner-team3s@team3s.com]On Behalf
Of bdtrent
Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2000 7:38 PM
To: Team 3S
Subject: Team3S: Pocket Logger Data Transfer

I'm new to this PDA thing so I apologize if I've missed the obvious, but is
there a way to get my pocket logger data onto my pc during hotsync?

Thanks in advance,
DaveT/92TT

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Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 09:47:27 -0600
From: overclck@ies.net (Cody Graham)
Subject: RE: Team3S: Question about front end conversion

Exactly right.... I used the headlights off a '94 Stealth for mine... 

And yours already being a 2nd gen, everything bolts right up, no
modifications necessary

(me, on the other hand had to cut into the sheet metal used for the
headlight buckets and all - it wasn't pretty)

- -Cody

- -----Original Message-----
From: owner-team3s@team3s.com [mailto:owner-team3s@team3s.com] On Behalf
Of Jannusch, Matt
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 12:54 AM
To: 3sTeam3S
Subject: RE: Team3S: Question about front end conversion

> Do the stock '95-98 lights work with the '99
> front end components?

Oh, duh.  I looked at the picture again and realized that Cody didn't
use
'99 headlights, so I answered my own question.

- -Matt
'95 3000GT Spyder VR4

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