Team3S: 3000GT & Stealth Sunday, January 27
2002 Volume 01 : Number
737
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Date:
Fri, 25 Jan 2002 21:12:43 -0800 (PST)
From: Geoff Mohler <
gemohler@www.speedtoys.com>
Subject:
RE: Team3S: engine shut down
If you open-track, you learn the value of
AAA+. :^)
100miles.
Used both our cards 2 weekends
ago.
On Sat, 26 Jan 2002, Darren Schilberg wrote:
> This is not
of much help as hindsight is always 20/10 but for $50 a year
> you get AAA
and I believe the standard towing distance is 50 miles (or
> that might be
the Gold package since basic AAA is around $35). That
> would cover
the cost of a tow back to where you get the work done. Plus
> you
get all sorts of free maps, travel books, etc. from them. Nice
>
people even if the wait for a tow is a long time in bad weather.
>
> I do remember someone else on here having the same problem at
speed. My
> dad's old Subaru Wagon (pre-AWD on all Subaru cars) was
cruising along a
> Georgia highway at 60 mph when all the needles except
the speedo went to
> zero. I think the only ones there were RPM,
Speedo, and Battery but
> whatever they were it was like he shut the
engine off and pushed in the
> clutch and we coasted for a while then
pulled over when it stopped.
> Result was a timing belt had gone South
(pardon the pun). Not many
> Japan/Import shops down in the heart of
Georgia. Got a tow about 100
> miles into Savannah and waited a day
for the part.
>
> Not sure what else goes at 70mph like that.
Starter doesn't matter.
> Alternator won't shut down the car like that
(just make radio and lights
> get dim). Fuel pump? Distributor
cap (or whatever our strip thing is
> called)?
>
>
--Flash!
> 1995 VR-4
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
From: Mike & Cathy
> Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002
16:46
>
> I need advice. My 92 rt tt Stealth quit at 70mph
and will not restart.
> No
> check engine sign or anything. There is
good spark and I can hear the
> fuel
> pump working. Iam 50 mile
from where I have the work done on my car and
> any
> help to try
and find whats wrong would be great. I know it could be many
> different
reasons, but someone has had this happen and maybe I can fix
> it
>
with out having the car towed.
- ---
Geoff Mohler
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Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2002 00:14:31
-0500
From: "Darren Schilberg" <
dschilberg@pobox.com>
Subject: RE:
Team3S: Speedometer
Similar question. How accurate is everyone's
odometer and trip odometer
to each other? Mine are off slightly.
I thought it would be from the
winter 17" tires but with correct Plus Sizing
(actually Minus Sizing
since I stepped down from stock size) I have
maintained the correct
ratio. That would not matter though since the
speedometer is read off
of the moving internals and not the wheels. Is
this the same place the
trip odometer reads from?
I wanted to reset
the car at the 80,000 mark and in 888.8 miles have a
nice 88,888 on the
odometer and 888.8 on the trip odometer dial then
cruise at 88 mph and snap a
picture ... that would be neat.
Problem is ... by the time I got 888
miles away from my zero mark (which
was actually 80,000) the odometer read
80,888.0 and the trip odometer
read (I believe) 888.8. I'm rounding to
show that in about 888 miles
the trip odometer was 0.8 miles ahead. Not
much I realize but in 1,000
miles this will mean the trip odometer is ahead
by 1.0 mile (give or
take a few thousand feet). Does anyone else have
ideas about what
theirs reads after 500 or 1,000 miles of not resetting the
trip
odometer? Does that mean the speedometer is not accurate (like I
am
doing 65 mph but the cop sees me at 60 mph or 70 mph ... hopefully
the
lower number)?
And in 100,000 miles the car trip odometer will be
off about 100.0
miles. Ouch.
- --Flash!
1995 VR-4
Better
gas mileage when compared to the trip than the real odometer
-
-----Original Message-----
From: Stephen C. Kempf
Sent: Friday, January
25, 2002 18:12
Here's a question I could use some feedback on.
Recently the speedometer
on my 1995 Dodge Stealth ES (dual overhead cam V6).
The service manuals
that I bought when I purchased the car say that the
speedometer uses an
electronic controller rather than a cable to the engine.
However, when I
took the car in for service, the mechanic says that it
actually has a
mechanical cable and that's what needs to be replaced.
Can anyone offer any insight about this contradictory information?
Did
early 1995s or perhaps late 1994s have a mechanical
cable?
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Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 23:28:35
-0600 (CST)
From: "Stephen C. Kempf" <
kempfsc@mail.auburn.edu>
Subject:
Team3S: timing
Mike,
There are instructions for checking the
timing on your car at,
http://www.Team3S.com/FAQtiming.htmSince
you've had your timing belt replaced recently, if it did slip, it's
very
likely that the belt tensioner was not adjusted properly when it
was
reinstalled. This requires a special tool and following the
instructions
in the service manual. This happened to me when i had my belt
replaced. It
jumped 5 teeth on the rear intake cam. After getting a new
belt
re-installed correctly, it still runs.
Steve
Date: Fri, 25
Jan 2002 18:14:08 -0700
From: "Mike & Cathy" <
micajoco@theofficenet.com>
Subject:
Team3S: Timing belt
I found out I may have jumped a tooth on the timing
belt. What are the
odds the valves and pistons made contact? Other than a
tear down is there
a way to check the timing belt? It hasn't been to long
since it was
changed. Mike S 92 r/t tt Wash. St.
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Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2002 09:43:07
-0600 (CST)
From: "Stephen C. Kempf" <
kempfsc@mail.auburn.edu>
Subject:
Team3S: Oops! Correction
My brain slipped a connection or two yesterday
and I put the wrong year
down for my car in the question about a speedometer
problem. So, in case
anyone has any input, here's the corrected
version,
Here's a question I could use some feedback on. Recently the
speedometer
on my 1993 Dodge Stealth ES (dual overhead cam V6). The service
manuals
that I bought when I purchased the car say that the speedometer uses
an
electronic controller rather than a cable to the engine. However, when
I
took the car in for service, the mechanic says that it actually has
a
mechanical cable and that's what needs to be replaced.
Can anyone
offer any insight about this contradictory information? Did
early 1993s or
perhaps late 1992s have a mechanical cable?
I should add that what I say
about the description in the service manual
is my own interpretation and
perhaps I'm misunderstanding something.
Also, if it helps, the
speedometer stopped working at the exact instant
when my wife turned tried to
turn on the cruise control (which doesn't
work now either). There had been no
symptoms, i.e. unsteady (shakey)
speedometer pointer, prior to the breakdown.
Thank you,
Steve Kempf
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Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2002 08:41:36
-0700
From: Wayne <
whietala@prodigy.net>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: Oops! Correction
I was always under the impression that turbo
cars were the only ones that
had an electric speedo, and all others were
cable driven. After searching
through CAPS, i find that it lists both for
non-turbos, but it does not
give any production dates, so i guess you could
have either one. One way to
find out is look at the tranny near the clutch
slave, and see if you have a
cable sticking out of the top, or if it has a
harness connection.
Wayne
At 09:43 AM 1/26/02 -0600, Stephen C.
Kempf wrote:
>Here's a question I could use some feedback on. Recently
the speedometer
>on my 1993 Dodge Stealth ES (dual overhead cam V6). The
service manuals
>that I bought when I purchased the car say that the
speedometer uses an
>electronic controller rather than a cable to the
engine. However, when I
>took the car in for service, the mechanic says
that it actually has a
>mechanical cable and that's what needs to be
replaced.
>
>Can anyone offer any insight about this contradictory
information? Did
>early 1993s or perhaps late 1992s have a mechanical
cable?
>
>I should add that what I say about the description in the
service manual
>is my own interpretation and perhaps I'm misunderstanding
something.
>
>Also, if it helps, the speedometer stopped working at
the exact instant
>when my wife turned tried to turn on the cruise control
(which doesn't
>work now either). There had been no symptoms, i.e.
unsteady (shakey)
>speedometer pointer, prior to the
breakdown.
>
>Thank you,
>
>Steve Kempf
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Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2002 12:19:47
-0600 (CST)
From: "Stephen C. Kempf" <
kempfsc@mail.auburn.edu>
Subject:
Team3S: Speedometer
Thanks to those who responded. Apparently I was
mistakenly looking at the
part of the service manual dealing with the
twin-turbo. The Stealth ES
does have a mechanical speedometer system. Sorry I
wasted everyone's time
on this.
Steve
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Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2002 10:42:46
-0800
From: "Andrew D. Woll" <
awoll1@pacbell.net>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: engine shut down
Good advice regarding AAA Daren. I learned
it the hard way when I had an
accident in the Nevada desert. Since then I
have had the premium AAA plan.
Just paid the premium the other day. $119 to
cover my wife and myself with
100 mile tow.
Andy
- -----Original
Message-----
From: Darren Schilberg <
dschilberg@pobox.com>
To: 'team3s'
<
team3s@stealth-3000gt.st>
Date:
Friday, January 25, 2002 9:08 PM
Subject: RE: Team3S: engine shut
down
>This is not of much help as hindsight is always 20/10 but for
$50 a year
>you get AAA and I believe the standard towing distance is 50
miles (or
>that might be the Gold package since basic AAA is around
$35). That
>would cover the cost of a tow back to where you get the
work done. Plus
>you get all sorts of free maps, travel books, etc.
from them. Nice
>people even if the wait for a tow is a long time in
bad weather.
>
>I do remember someone else on here having the same
problem at speed. My
>dad's old Subaru Wagon (pre-AWD on all Subaru
cars) was cruising along a
>Georgia highway at 60 mph when all the needles
except the speedo went to
>zero. I think the only ones there were
RPM, Speedo, and Battery but
>whatever they were it was like he shut the
engine off and pushed in the
>clutch and we coasted for a while then
pulled over when it stopped.
>Result was a timing belt had gone South
(pardon the pun). Not many
>Japan/Import shops down in the heart of
Georgia. Got a tow about 100
>miles into Savannah and waited a day
for the part.
>
>Not sure what else goes at 70mph like that.
Starter doesn't matter.
>Alternator won't shut down the car like that
(just make radio and lights
>get dim). Fuel pump? Distributor
cap (or whatever our strip thing
is
>called)?
>
>--Flash!
>1995
VR-4
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Mike &
Cathy
>Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 16:46
>
>I need advice.
My 92 rt tt Stealth quit at 70mph and will not restart.
>No
>check
engine sign or anything. There is good spark and I can hear
the
>fuel
>pump working. Iam 50 mile from where I have the work done
on my car and
>any
>help to try and find whats wrong would be great.
I know it could be many
>different reasons, but someone has had this
happen and maybe I can fix
>it
>with out having the car
towed.
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Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2002 13:52:03
-0500
From: "Darren Schilberg" <
dschilberg@pobox.com>
Subject: RE:
Team3S: engine shut down
Yeah, unfortunately we all learn some things the
hard way. I'm still
looking for the answer to the shutdown so I don't
have it happen to
mine. Had the 60k done and if it is the timing belt
then I'm sitting
pretty. If it is something else (pressure plate on
clutch/flywheel let
go and thus no more power transmitted through) then I'll
be a little
wary.
And back East you can't go 25 miles without seeing
something. Even back
country is usually a mobile home or
something. If I were to trip out
West I would be sure to have plenty of
water, cell phone, signaling
devices (mirror, flare, matches, etc.), yadda,
yadda, yadda. Guess
those people in the no-man's-land just get used to
having confidence to
go 100 miles between civilization.
-
--Flash!
1995 VR-4
- -----Original Message-----
From: Andrew D.
Woll
Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2002 13:43
Good advice
regarding AAA Daren. I learned it the hard way when I
had
an
accident in the Nevada desert. Since then I have had the premium
AAA
plan.
Just paid the premium the other day. $119 to cover my wife and
myself
with
100 mile tow.
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Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2002 16:24:15
-0800
From: ARMIN MEIER <
guetch@shaw.ca>
Subject: Re: Team3S:
Alternator problems 94 Stealth r/t turbo
Hello all the
Experts,
Had a shocker in the morning the battery was flat, dead, zilch.
No, I did
not leave the door open or lights on.
The alternator
regulator packed it in and the field current was sugging down
the battery
over night. I guess with 2.5 amps. it wouldn't take this long.
Now were can I
find the IC regulator assembly?
Any ideas as Chrysler in Canada has no
close relations with Mitsu anymore.
Maybe your list of mitsu dealers is
a good start.
Thanks
Armin
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Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 19:37:50
-0500
From: "bdtrent" <
bdtrent@netzero.net>
Subject:
Team3S: Pocket Logger Data Transfer
I'm new to this PDA thing so I
apologize if I've missed the obvious, but is
there a way to get my pocket
logger data onto my pc during hotsync?
Thanks in
advance,
DaveT/92TT
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Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2002 16:43:06
-0800
From: Damon Rachell <
damonr@mefas.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S:
Alternator problems 94 Stealth r/t turbo
Here's a page from carparts.com
that sells voltage regulators for the
alternator. Check with junk
yards also. I got a used alternator,
complete, off of a 98 VR-4 for
$75! Was well worth the cost savings.
Damon
http://www.carparts.com/parts/sample.asp?reflink=52341-0-0-0-0&SegmentId=1&parttypeid=17011&vehicleid=52341&catalogid=&partnum=NONE&dc=
ARMIN
MEIER wrote:
> Hello all the Experts,
>
> Had a shocker
in the morning the battery was flat, dead, zilch. No, I did
> not
leave the door open or lights on.
> The alternator regulator packed it in
and the field current was sugging down
> the battery over night. I guess
with 2.5 amps. it wouldn't take this long.
> Now were can I find the IC
regulator assembly?
> Any ideas as Chrysler in Canada has no close
relations with Mitsu anymore.
> Maybe your list of mitsu dealers is a good
start.
>
> Thanks
>
> Armin
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Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2002 23:07:35
-0500
From: "Robert Booker" <
nsubooker@earthlink.net>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: Oops! Correction
Ahh. Yes, the 93 DOHC non-turbo does indeed
have a mechanical cable. Like I
said before, I broke 3 of them in a little
under 2 years, and I have become
very proficient at replacing them. Your
symptoms of everything working
except the speedo, odometer and cruise are
dead on. The most common
breaking point is where the cable attaches to
the transmission. You can
inspect this by removing the intake tube, from
where it leaves the
Airbox/FIPK (don't know if you have any mods) and
attaches to the throttle
body. There are 2 clamps, one at each end of the
tube that can be loostened
and the tube removed as a whole. You will see a
black cable, about the
diameter of a pencil, coming from the firewall, and
screwing into the
differential case of the tranny. It has a silver collar
that you can unscrew
and then there is a brass "key" that fits down into the
transmission. The
connection of the "key" and cable is where mine broke all 3
times. If yours
is indeed broken, you should call Talahassee Mitsu. and order
a new one,
they give list discounts.
Matt
3/Si #311
'93 Stealth
R/T Na
'00 Intrepid
> My brain slipped a connection or two
yesterday and I put the wrong year
> down for my car in the question about
a speedometer problem. So, in case
> anyone has any input, here's the
corrected version,
>
> Here's a question I could use some feedback
on. Recently the speedometer
> on my 1993 Dodge Stealth ES (dual overhead
cam V6). The service manuals
> that I bought when I purchased the car say
that the speedometer uses an
> electronic controller rather than a cable
to the engine. However, when I
> took the car in for service, the mechanic
says that it actually has a
> mechanical cable and that's what needs to be
replaced.
>
> Can anyone offer any insight about this contradictory
information? Did
> early 1993s or perhaps late 1992s have a mechanical
cable?
> I should add that what I say about the description in the
service manual
> is my own interpretation and perhaps I'm misunderstanding
something.
>
> Also, if it helps, the speedometer stopped working at
the exact instant
> when my wife turned tried to turn on the cruise
control (which doesn't
> work now either). There had been no symptoms,
i.e. unsteady (shakey)
> speedometer pointer, prior to the
breakdown.
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Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2002 07:46:22
-0500
From: "WALTER D. BEST" <
WDBO39@erols.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S:
mobil 1 75/90
Yes I have been running Mobil 1 since the car had 1000
miles on it, I now
have over 103,000 miles. You won't have nay problems
with the 5-speed
transmission or transfer case. GL-5 is only an issue
if you have the newer
6-speed trans with the brass and copper (softer metal)
bushing.
It even says it's ok to run it in my 92 shop manual.
Dave
Best
P.S. I also still on the OE clutch
- ----- Original Message
-----
From: "Mike & Cathy" <
micajoco@theofficenet.com>
To:
<
team3s@stealth-3000gt.st>
Sent:
Wednesday, January 23, 2002 11:01 PM
Subject: Team3S: mobil 1
75/90
> Has anyone tried using Mobil 1 75/90 synthetic in a 5-speed
trans?
> Mike 92 rt tt
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