Team3S: 3000GT & Stealth   Tuesday, January 1 2002   Volume 01 : Number 714




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Date: 31 Dec 2001 20:28:52 -0800
From: John Monnin <jkmonnin@altavista.com>
Subject: Team3S: 4-bolt conversion answers

Ken Middaugh: 

If you are doing a 4-bolt main conversion please visit my webpage I think it will answer all of your questions:

http://hometown.aol.com/johnmonnin/6fourbolt1.html

Don’t bother using the 4-bolt timing sprocket if you are keeping the CAS on the heads.  The 4-bolt timing sprocket MD184894 does not have the spacer and blade need to use them.  All you have to do is install the 2-bolt sprocket 1 tooth off.   I used a dial indicator to verify that when the #1 piston at TDC the mark on the 2-bolt sprocket is one tooth off.   The See picture on this page. (This page also has pictures of al lof the parts I had to modify)

http://hometown.aol.com/johnmonnin/Modifiedparts1.html

You will also see a picture of the new 4-bolt timing sprocket MD184894 that I bought and did not use.  If anybody wants it I will sell it cheap!  If you have the CAS  on the front of the block you will need this part a backer and a blade.

You do not need to replace the harmonic balancer.  Per CAPs the 4-bolt main crank is a direct replacement for 2-bolt main crank so the 2-bolt and 4-bolt harmonic balancer must also be interchangable.  I do not know why they have different numbers.   The 4-bolt timing cover will now lineup perfectly with the mark on the 2-bolt harmonic balance pulley.

Below is a link to comparison pictures between 2-bolt and 4-bolt main parts:

http://hometown.aol.com/johnmonnin/pictures4bolts1.html

For a complete list of parts and prices that I bought to do this conversion go to the link below:

http://hometown.aol.com/johnmonnin/Cost4bolt1.html

P.S.  Welcome to the 4-bolt main conversion club.  “The club you are proud to be a member of but wish you were not asked to join!”  When you get your new engine started let me know and I will add you to my 4-bolt main conversion club webpage. 

http://hometown.aol.com/johnmonnin/Conversionclub1.html


John Monnin
1991 VR-4 with 4-bolt main conversion
 
- - --- Ken Middaugh <kmiddaugh@ixpres.com> wrote:
> Hi Folks,

> I hope someone with CAPS is not on vacation! I was
> hoping to install my
> 4-bolt conversion engine tomorrow and need someone
> with CAPS to verify a few
> part numbers for me.

> I need to know if the following parts have different
> part numbers for 1st
> gen and 2nd gen engines:
> crankshaft timing belt pulley/sprocket
> harmonic balancer
> lower timing belt cover

> Problem:
> I am doing a 4-bolt main conversion on my blown '91
> engine.  I installed the
> timing belt using my '91 crankshaft timing belt
> pulley, a new harmonic
> balancer, and a new lower timing belt cover. (I
> ordered everything from
> Norco Mitsu, so I assumed the harmonic balancer and
> lower cover are for the
> 2nd gen engine.  At the time, I didn't know the
> balancer and pulley were two
> parts).  I aligned everything up just fine using the
> mark on the crankshaft
> timing belt pulley and the marks on the camshaft
> sprockets.  However, when I
> installed the new timing belt cover and balancer,
> the mark on the balancer
> does not line up with the 0 degree mark on the
> cover, even though the mark
> on the crankshaft tbelt pulley is lined up with the
> mark on the oil pump.

> Anyway, before I install the engine, I like to
> resolve this problem.

> Thanks in advance,
> Ken


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Date: Tue, 01 Jan 2002 00:10:31 -0700
From: "Zach Sauerman" <axemaddock@hotmail.com>
Subject: Team3S: Lessons learned while re-doing the 60k

Fellows,
For those that may be approaching their first try at the 60k maintenance
cycle, here are a few of my lessons learned.
First, plan ahead. My water pump went south and I had to learn what to do,
how to do it, and gather what I could to do it. I have to be back in
Colorado this Wednesday and so didn't have much time to get everything
together. Not fun.
The 60k step-by-step on the homepage is extremely helpful- use that
alongside your repair manual.
The special tools called for in the manual can be improvised. We welded
together what looked like the first generation end yoke holder and it worked
great. Tonight I put together the tool to do the timing tensioner. For that
I used a 7/16" socket, two thin tool bits that fit in the holes, and a
heaping helping of both JB QuikWeld and regular JB Weld. Improv probably
isn't recommended, but sometimes there is no choice. It can be done when you
can't buy the tools.
Save yourself some skin and possible eye injury from catapulted tools when
playing with the front bank cams- The repair manual shows some illustrated
guy holding two wrenches at the same time to keep them still- trying that
caused the spilling forth of choice words. There are threaded holes behind
each sprocket that will accept the 12mm bolts that were removed from the
front of that brace holding the alternator. Find some big washers and use
those bolts to hold the cam sprockets still- not so tight like a clamp, but
enough to prevent the spontaneous snap that mine were anxious to do. Gives
you free hands to deal with the belt. Have a helper to hold the cam still
with a box wrench while you get in there with a bolt and washer- I wouldn't
send a helper in to do the bolt because of safety-> it's your car, so you
take the risk of having a finger pinched. Don't try to hold the cam still
with a socket or open wrench, either.
When pulling the water pump, you can prevent a big mess with a turkey pan
and slow removal to allow the water to drain out at its own pace. Only five
14mm bolts hold the water pump to the car, not those five and the countless
smaller ones- save yourself that bit of trouble. And keep your bolts
organized to put them back from where they came.
Craftsman makes deals now that fit into sockets but let you use an open or
box wrench for tight spots. These are helpful.
I haven't finished yet, but I wanted to share some info for others who may
be up for this task. Above all- change your water pump when you do the belt!
I am doing this now because the first owners only had the belt done, and 30k
later I get to do it again.

Cheers,
Zach Sauerman
'94 Pearl Yellow TT


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Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2002 10:38:47 -0800 (PST)
From: Casey Spivey <spiv99@yahoo.com>
Subject: Team3S: egr pipe block plate

Has anyone on the list done this? What are the benefits and/or side
effects of this modification? It would be easy to make the plate but
should a vacuum line be blocked as well and will it send a code that
it is malfunctioning to the computer? Thanks, Casey

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Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2002 10:41:57 -0800 (PST)
From: Casey Spivey <spiv99@yahoo.com>
Subject: Team3S: vacuum line problem

There are two vacuum lines coming out of the stock boost selenoid.  I
have the bottom one going to my manual boost controller but what does
the top one go to?  The top hose on my car is not hooked up to
anything I can't see anywhere that it would go. Thanks, Casey

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Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2002 14:04:28 -0500
From: MIHAI RAICU <mraicu@wayne.edu>
Subject: Team3S: HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!

Hello everyone,

I wanted to wish everyone a Happy New Year, full of joy,
realizations and lots of MODS!

John Raicu
94 Yellow TT

&
Mihai Raicu
95 Red VR-4

PS: The technical part of this email was "lots of MODS"...

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Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2002 13:09:35 -0800 (PST)
From: Jeff Lucius <stealthman92@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: vacuum line problem

The service manual is very helpful in answering questions like this.
In case you don't have yours with you or have not received it yet,
you can look at the pic on my web site below.

http://www.geocities.com/lutransys/jlucius/2-vacuumhoses.htm

The bottom hose goes to to the "H" connector and the Y-pipe pressure
reference hose (and wastegate actuators). The top hose sends the bled
off air to the intake hose in front of the rear turbo. You should be
more concerned about what is connected to that nipple on the rear
intake hose if the BC sol. hose is not. Unfiltered air to the turbo
increases the potential for damage to the compressor wheel.

Pic of that intake hose (left side of top pic, yellow arrow):
http://www.geocities.com/lutransys/jlucius3/j3-2-dnp-intakepipes.htm

Why is the stock BC sol. still being used with your manual boost
controller (assuming it is not a clamp type?

Jeff Lucius, www.stealth316.com

- --- Casey Spivey <spiv99@yahoo.com> wrote:
> There are two vacuum lines coming out of the stock boost selenoid.
> I
> have the bottom one going to my manual boost controller but what
> does
> the top one go to?  The top hose on my car is not hooked up to
> anything I can't see anywhere that it would go. Thanks, Casey

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Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2002 17:57:11 EST
From: NETM1NDER@aol.com
Subject: Team3S: GT-Pro Split Second Intake/Fuel Comuter

Does anyone have this on their car and what do you think of this product?


    Chris  95Vr4

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Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2002 18:08:03 -0600
From: "Jannusch, Matt" <mjannusch@marketwatch.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: GT-Pro Split Second Intake/Fuel Comuter

> Does anyone have this on their car and what do you think of
> this product?

I had one on my car...  It is "okay", but I think the adjustments are too
coarse.  There are better things already here or coming soon for similar
money.

EFI Systems PMS:

http://www.efisystems.com/pms.htm

AEM EMS:

http://www.aempower.com/ems.htm

- -Matt
'95 3000GT Spyder VR4

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Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2002 16:27:49 -0800
From: "BlackLight" <BlackLight@Planetice.net>
Subject: Team3S: FW: Club3S & The 3S National Gathering!!  (Long, Enthusiasts Please Read)

This is from Paul about his company going up. Just forwarding for him
cause his outgoing email is not working I guess.

Matt Nelson
1994 RT TT
Computer Sales Consultant
Gateway Computers, Salem OR
Work Phone 503-587-7113
BlackLight@Planetice.Net
www.BlackLight.5u.com

- -----Original Message-----
From: Paul Butkiewicz [mailto:3S@DiabloEnterprises.com]
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 1:49 PM
To: Starnet Mailing List
Subject: Club3S & The 3S National Gathering!! (Long, Enthusiasts Please
Read)


    Hi everyone, been a while since I've posted, but I wanted to fill
everyone in on what's been going on with my business
(DiabloEnterprises.com).

    Background info for the people I don't talk to much and newbies:  A
few months ago, I started putting together a small internet-based 3/S
performance retail company. Basically, I figured by not having a retail
store and drop shipping most of my products, I could keep prices down
and offer some great deals to all of you.
    People began emailing me about products for their other cars and
soon people who don't even know what a 3/S is were emailing and calling
about products. I then realized the potential this has and have been
very busy trying to establish accounts and such to make it an all-out
internet-based import performance company.

    I should be all setup in the next few weeks, and wanted to ensure
everyone I did not forget my roots.  I am going to be setting up a
membership program for 3/S owners.  I'm planning discounts, group-buys,
weekly 3S mailings (gatherings info, new products, car of the week...),
custom 3/S memorablia only available to members, and maybe even raffles
and an affiliate-type program.
    I've already OK'ed custom 3S Corbeau Racing seats and am in the
process of speaking with someone who makes laser cut crystal about some
really nice coffee table conversation pieces.  =)

    Please go to www.DiabloEnterprises.com and click on the Club 3S
logo.  That will bring you to a page with a link to the membship
application.  It's free and the only requirement is you own a 3/S.  I
highly recommend you be a 3Si member as well, as this may qualify you
for better discounts.  Eric Lotter puts a lot of his own time and money
into 3Si and many of you take advantage of the 3Si discounts from Mitsu
and other dealers witout even being a member.  Pay the few bucks to
become a member, get a cool sticker, and help support all the things 3Si
has done for you.
    Also, I'd like to remind everyone to sign-up for the 3S National
Gathering.  There's a link to it on my webpage and I hope there will be
a huge outcome.  I'm not making any promises, but there may be some of
those custom 3S Corbeau Racing Seats raffled off...

    If someone on the other lists/boards (Team3S, 3S-Racers, JRC-3Si,
3Si Board, etc..) could forward or post this email, I'd greatly
appreciate it.  I've been having problems with my outgoing mail server
and can't post to those lists right now.  Also, anyone with a 3S-related
webpage that wants to throw up a link for Club3S, you're more than
welcome to link right up to the logo on the website.  Email me for code
if you don't know how or don't want to figure it out.  =)
    Remember, the club is for us all.  The more members, the more
buying-power we'll have, so get the word out to the lists, boards,
webpages, and friends!

Have a safe and happy new year!  And remember, no drinking and driving!!
=) Paul Butkiewicz Proud Member of 3Si: #1127 Diablo Enterprises :
Club3S Phone/Fax 781-769-4180 Norwood, MA  02062-4012
http://www.DiabloCarAudio.com/ http://www.DiabloEnterprises.com/






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Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2002 16:52:30 -0800 (PST)
From: Geoff Mohler <gemohler@www.speedtoys.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: GT-Pro Split Second Intake/Fuel Comuter

What are people paying for these types of units?

On Tue, 1 Jan 2002, Jannusch, Matt wrote:

> > Does anyone have this on their car and what do you think of
> > this product?
>
> I had one on my car...  It is "okay", but I think the adjustments are too
> coarse.  There are better things already here or coming soon for similar
> money.
>
> EFI Systems PMS:
>
> http://www.efisystems.com/pms.htm
>
> AEM EMS:
>
> http://www.aempower.com/ems.htm
>
> -Matt
> '95 3000GT Spyder VR4
>
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Geoff Mohler


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Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2002 19:02:19 -0600
From: "Jannusch, Matt" <mjannusch@marketwatch.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: GT-Pro Split Second Intake/Fuel Comuter

> What are people paying for these types of units?

I'm in for about $1450 for the fully-blown PMS with MAP sensor and full
datalogging with Windows InterACQ.

I don't know exactly what the AEM EMS costs, but it is supposedly similar in
price, but I haven't confirmed that since I'm going to give the PMS a try in
the spring.  It worked well in my Eclipse GSX and I'm familiar with it so
that's partly why I decided to follow that route.

I wonder if the AEM EMS is what the GT Pro folks have been working with
lately.

- -Matt
'95 3000GT Spyder VR4

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Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2002 17:04:03 -0800 (PST)
From: Geoff Mohler <gemohler@www.speedtoys.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: GT-Pro Split Second Intake/Fuel Comuter

I guess I screwed up.

What are people paying for AFM replacements, not including other
management products.

On Tue, 1 Jan 2002, Jannusch, Matt wrote:

> > What are people paying for these types of units?
>
> I'm in for about $1450 for the fully-blown PMS with MAP sensor and full
> datalogging with Windows InterACQ.
>
> I don't know exactly what the AEM EMS costs, but it is supposedly similar in
> price, but I haven't confirmed that since I'm going to give the PMS a try in
> the spring.  It worked well in my Eclipse GSX and I'm familiar with it so
> that's partly why I decided to follow that route.
>
> I wonder if the AEM EMS is what the GT Pro folks have been working with
> lately.
>
> -Matt
> '95 3000GT Spyder VR4
>

- ---
Geoff Mohler


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Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2002 18:40:04 -0800
From: "Michael, Sharon & Dashiell Rhoden" <rhoden@easystreet.com>
Subject: Team3S:  Other manufacturers' keyless remotes

Does anyone know if it's possible to use the Mitsu remote receiver (in my
case a 92 VR4 (in I have one, that is)) to work with another manufacturer's
remote sender (in my case an '00 Subaru)?

P.S.  Happy new year to all!  I hope y'all are getting in some extra drive
time during the holidays!



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Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2002 21:46:31 EST
From: NETM1NDER@aol.com
Subject: Re: Team3S: GT-Pro Split Second Intake/Fuel Comuter

1029.00 to 1299. at dynamic racing.


   Chris  95VR4

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Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2002 22:09:58 EST
From: NETM1NDER@aol.com
Subject: Re: Team3S: GT-Pro Split Second Intake/Fuel Comuter

You said that you had one on your car did you take it off and replace it with
the PMS.
How do I get this product?

   Chris  95VR4

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Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2002 22:52:38 -0600
From: "Jannusch, Matt" <mjannusch@marketwatch.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: GT-Pro Split Second Intake/Fuel Comuter

> You said that you had one on your car did you take it off
> and replace it with the PMS.  How do I get this product?

Follow the link provided in my original message:

http://www.efisystems.com

You can also send them an e-mail if you have questions:

Sales:  efirick@mindspring.com
Tech:   efidoug@mindspring.com

Doug is the guy who created the PMS units and is very knowlegable about
them.  There is also a PMS Tuning e-mail list on Yahoo groups.  I haven't
run into anyone with experience with them on 3/S cars yet, but hopefully
that'll change.  There's a picture of the 3/S version at the bottom of my
homepage (such as it is):

http://people.mn.mediaone.net/mjannusch/

Call them up and they'll take Visa and ship it out to you.  If you are
serious about tuning, I'd recommend going all-out and getting the MAP sensor
option and the full InterACQ datalogging/programming software.  InterACQ
also enables you to use the Standalone mode.  It has lots of features like
2-step revlimiting, realtime selectable programs and other things.

The user's guide is available in Acrobat format here:

http://www.efisystems.com/manuals/mitsubishi/Mit3000GTOP-01.pdf

InterACQ software manual is here:

http://www.efisystems.com/manuals/intacq/User's_Guide1.pdf

My car isn't running yet (I'm in the process of rebuilding my motor) so I
can't give any real-world opinions on how well it works yet.  I can only say
that it worked pretty well on my DSM car.

- -Matt
'95 3000GT Spyder VR4

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