Team3S: 3000GT & Stealth Monday, December 24
2001 Volume 01 : Number
707
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Date:
Sat, 22 Dec 2001 13:40:16 -0500
From: "Furman, Russell" <
RFurman2@MassMutual.com>
Subject:
RE: Team3S: Acceptable EGT's (Again)
Dave, to each their own but I have
seen what high EGT's and a little knock
can do to pistons :( So when
ever I voice an opinion it is generally more
conservative. Especially at the
going rate of a rebuild and how much of a
PITA our cars are to work
on.
- -----Original Message-----
From: bdtrent
Sent: Fri
12/21/2001 8:07 PM
To: Team 3S
Cc:
Subject: Team3S: Acceptable EGT's
(Again)
Russell,
I appreciate your concern. My
numbers are taken off the back turbo,
pre-turbine. It has been
reported on the list on a number of different
occasions what is generally
accepted to be safe pre-turbine EGT's. I've
always subscribed to the
belief that 1800F is the maximum safe EGT, with
1600-1700 being normal full
load temps. These numbers were offered up by
our own Jack T. a number
of years ago when I was first setting my car up.
850C equates to
1562F. I would consider this to be fairly conservative by
any
standards.
Regards,
DaveT
- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Furman, Russell" <
RFurman2@MassMutual.com>
To:
"'bdtrent'" <
bdtrent@netzero.net>
Cc: "'Team 3S'" <
Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 8:34 AM
Subject: RE: Team3S: Idea for
cheaper way to run 720CC injectors?
Hey Dave if that is before the
turbos that's a little hot..... you really do
not want to be over
850C. If that is after the turbo that is WAY to hot
and you may
want to do a compression test. Turbos are good for pulling
about 200C
out of egts when comparing pre turbo and post turbo
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Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2001 14:18:06
-0500
From: "bdtrent" <
bdtrent@netzero.net>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: Acceptable EGT's (Again)
Russell/Jack,
I'll let you know
what info I get off of the Pocketlogger. It's seems
particularly
difficult to estimate max safe EGT's without knowing if knock
is also
present. In my case this has yet to be determined other than
knowing
the car has been trouble free with it's current set-up to date.
Jack brings
up a good point in that running the factory fuel program with
the AFC, I
could be running advanced timing under high load. Hopefully
the
pocketlogger will provide info on this. Whatever the case may be,
I
appreciate the heads up.
Regards,
DaveT/92TT
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Original Message -----
From: "Furman, Russell" <
RFurman2@MassMutual.com>
To:
"bdtrent" <
bdtrent@netzero.net>
Cc: <
Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
Sent:
Saturday, December 22, 2001 1:40 PM
Subject: RE: Team3S: Acceptable EGT's
(Again)
Dave, to each their own but I have seen what high EGT's and a
little knock
can do to pistons :( So when ever I voice an opinion it is
generally more
conservative. Especially at the going rate of a rebuild and
how much of a
PITA our cars are to work on.
- -----Original
Message-----
From: bdtrent
Sent: Fri 12/21/2001 8:07 PM
To: Team
3S
Cc:
Subject: Team3S: Acceptable EGT's
(Again)
Russell,
I appreciate your concern. My
numbers are taken off the back turbo,
pre-turbine. It has been reported
on the list on a number of different
occasions what is generally accepted to
be safe pre-turbine EGT's. I've
always subscribed to the belief that
1800F is the maximum safe EGT, with
1600-1700 being normal full load
temps. These numbers were offered up by
our own Jack T. a number of
years ago when I was first setting my car up.
850C equates to 1562F. I
would consider this to be fairly conservative by
any
standards.
Regards,
DaveT
- ----- Original Message
-----
From: "Furman, Russell" <
RFurman2@MassMutual.com>
To:
"'bdtrent'" <
bdtrent@netzero.net>
Cc: "'Team 3S'"
<
Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
Sent:
Tuesday, December 18, 2001 8:34 AM
Subject: RE: Team3S: Idea for cheaper way
to run 720CC injectors?
Hey Dave if that is before the turbos that's
a little hot..... you really do
not want to be over 850C. If
that is after the turbo that is WAY to hot
and you may want to do a
compression test. Turbos are good for pulling
about 200C out of egts
when comparing pre turbo and post turbo
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Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2001 14:20:38
-0500
From: "bdtrent" <
bdtrent@netzero.net>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: Low Oil
Philip,
Thanks for the reassurance, I was
inclined to believe this, but a little
back up makes me feel better
anyway.
Happy Holidays,
DaveT/92TT
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Philip V. Glazatov" <
gphilip@umich.edu>
To: "Team 3S"
<
team3s@stealth-3000gt.st>
Sent:
Friday, December 21, 2001 10:21 PM
Subject: Re: Team3S: Low
Oil
Sleep tight, Dave. Modern engines do not rely on crank splashing
oil on
cylinder walls, so as long as oil pump is not pumping air up the
oil
galleys, your engine will run okay. Two quarts below max is no big deal
if
you did not run like that for all the 3K miles, climb steep hills, or
made
sharp 1.0 g turns.
Philip
At 07:33 PM 12/21/01, bdtrent
wrote:
>I recently ran my daily driver and occasional Solo 2 companion
(Dakota 5.9
>R/T) way down on oil. My oil pressure gage wasn't
indicating anything
>unusual so I didn't think to check. Much to my
supprise, when I did check
>recently, the level didn't even register on
the dip stick. After replacing
>the oil, I determined that this poor
thing was 2 qts. low. Thank God for
>Mobil 1, but I'm having a hard
time sleeping at night thinking of what
>permanent damage I may have
done.
>
>Regards,
>DaveT/92TT
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Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2001 11:49:53
-0800
From: "Jim Berry" <
fastmax@home.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S:
Acceptable EGT's (Again)
If you're really concerned about melt down do
what the pros do --- inspect
your spark plugs for the telltale flecks of
aluminum on the electrodes after
a few hard runs [ they do it after every run
I suspect ].
Jim
Berry
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- ----- Original
Message -----
From: "bdtrent" <
bdtrent@netzero.net>
To: "Team 3S"
<
team3s@stealth-3000gt.st>
>
Russell/Jack,
>
> I'll let you know what info I get off of the
Pocketlogger. It's seems
> particularly difficult to estimate max
safe EGT's without knowing if knock
> is also present. In my case
this has yet to be determined other than
> knowing the car has been
trouble free with it's current set-up to date.
> Jack brings up a good
point in that running the factory fuel program with
> the AFC, I could be
running advanced timing under high load. Hopefully the
>
pocketlogger will provide info on this. Whatever the case may be,
I
> appreciate the heads up.
>
>
Regards,
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Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2001 16:44:54
-0500
From: "Aamer" <
aamer.mail@verizon.net>
Subject:
Team3S: simple oil filter question
Hello all:
On my last oil
change I used a Fram oil filter because I wasn't able to get
my hands on an
OEM or Mobil 1 Filter. Now i've been told that the Fram
filters do not have a
check valve.
Considering my sometimes noisy valve lifters, I was a bit
concerned that the
absense of a check valve may worsen the problem. Has
anyone experienced a
problem using Fram Oil filters?
Thanks for your
help
Aamer Abbas
'94 3000 GT (DOHC -- Naturally
Aspirated)
email:
aamer@thepentagon.com [or]
aabomb@thepentagon.comfax: (707)
982-8817 [add +1 country code if faxing from outside the
USA]
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Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2001 14:24:39
-0800
From: "Jim Berry" <
fastmax@home.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S:
simple oil filter question
Much bad stuff has been said about Fram ---
most of it is probably BS.
If you change your oil at 3000 miles as most of us
do the filter hardly
gets dirty --- the chance of a filter failure is close
to zero.
As to check valves, the object of the check valve is to prevent
the oil
from draining out of the filter when the car is shut off --- in the
case of
our cars the filter is almost vertical so the oil won't drain out
unless the
car is upside down, in which case you have a more serious problem
anyway. On the plus side it would be easier to change the
filter.
Jim
Berry
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- ----- Original
Message -----
From: "Aamer" <
aamer.mail@verizon.net>
To:
"Team3S" <
team3s@stealth-3000gt.st>
Sent:
Saturday, December 22, 2001 1:44 PM
Subject: Team3S: simple oil filter
question
> Hello all:
>
> On my last oil change I
used a Fram oil filter because I wasn't able to get
> my hands on an OEM
or Mobil 1 Filter. Now i've been told that the Fram
> filters do not have
a check valve.
>
> Considering my sometimes noisy valve lifters, I
was a bit concerned that the
> absense of a check valve may worsen the
problem. Has anyone experienced a
> problem using Fram Oil
filters?
>
> Thanks for your help
>
> Aamer
Abbas
> '94 3000 GT (DOHC -- Naturally Aspirated)
>
> email:
aamer@thepentagon.com [or]
aabomb@thepentagon.com> fax:
(707) 982-8817 [add +1 country code if faxing from outside the USA]
>
>
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Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2001 10:31:04
-0500
From: "Payne, Scott" <
SPayne@hunton.com>
Subject: Team3S:
Altered Atmosphere
WOW, I didnt mean to stir up so much
stuff!!
Anyway, being a novice, I found their shop and staff to be
outstanding. I
got excatly what I paid for.
I got the following -
HKS
DLI Ignition amp
Y-Pipe
Down Pipe
High Flow Cat
2 Gutted
Pre-Cats
6 NGK Plugs
Blitz SBC I-D Boost Controller
2 Dyno
Runs
Results -
316 HP at the wheels at 15.9 boost
345 Lbs
Torque
I'm Happy and will use them again without
hesitation.
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