Team3S: 3000GT & Stealth Saturday, December 22 2001
Volume 01 : Number
706
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Date:
Fri, 21 Dec 2001 09:56:15 -0800 (PST)
From: Jeff Lucius <stealthman92@yahoo.com>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: TD04-9B compressor map revealed
Joe, What great
info!
One interesting feature to note is the compressor maximum
efficiency.
How many times have we heard that the bigger turbos 3S owners
upgrade
to are better simply because the efficiency is better? Well this
map
shows that is not necessarily true (or that it is not quite
that
simple).
The 15G and 9B both have 76% max efficiency (and I would
guess the
same for the 13G turbo). However, the peak efficiency
"island"
extends to higher pressure ratios with the 15G - a
definite
advantage.
Looking at the 16G (big wheel in TD05H housing) we
see that max
efficiency is only 71%. Putting the same wheel in the TD06
housing
increases efficiency to 74%. Granted the broader shape of
the
"island" compensates for the lower peak efficiency somewhat.
The
18T does have a broader, higher, and better placed peak
efficiency island
(all of 1% higher). But how many people have this
hybrid?
The big
Garrett T04E turbos have peak efficiencies in the 78-80%
range, but how many
(if any) 3S owners use these?
Unfortunately, the nice efficency of the
TD04-9B does not make up for
the fact that it is sized way to small for our
engine. 13G turbos
should have been installed here as well as in Europe, with
a better
fuel system of course on both sides of the pond.
Compressor
maps, turbo guide:
http://www.geocities.com/lutransys/jlucius2/j2-2-turboguide.htm
Jeff
Lucius, www.stealth316.com
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Joe Gonsowski" <twinturbo@mediaone.net>
To:
"3000GT / Stealth List" <Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
Sent:
Friday, December 21, 2001 4:13 AM
Subject: Team3S: TD04-9B compressor map
revealed
I've posted a message to 3si.org:
http://www.3si.org/vbb/showthread.php?s=c6acaf5cc473004e72da6979f52c7826&threadid=58374
If
the board is too slow for your tastes, take the following
direct
links.
TD04-9B map:
http://people.mw.mediaone.net/twinturbo/TD04-9B_Compressor_Map.htm
Compared
to TD06-"big"16G:
http://people.mw.mediaone.net/twinturbo/16G_Compressor_Map.htm
Happy
Holidays,
Joe Gonsowski
'92 & '96 R/T
TT
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Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 11:34:01
-0700
From: "Floyd, Jim" <Jim_Floyd@maxtor.com>
Subject:
Team3S: Turbos - ball bearing
Since we are on the subject of turbos, are
the ball bearing turbos
worth it ?
I believe the 15G equivalent is the
IHI RHF5 as seen on Don's site
below.
http://www.dnperformance.com/turbo.htm
Thanks,
Jim
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-----Original Message-----
From: Jeff Lucius
[mailto:stealthman92@yahoo.com]
Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 10:56
AM
To: Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st
Subject:
Re: Team3S: TD04-9B compressor map revealed
Joe, What great
info!
One interesting feature to note is the compressor maximum
efficiency.
How many times have we heard that the bigger turbos 3S owners
upgrade
to are better simply because the efficiency is better? Well this
map
shows that is not necessarily true (or that it is not quite
that
simple).
The 15G and 9B both have 76% max efficiency (and I would
guess the
same for the 13G turbo). However, the peak efficiency
"island"
extends to higher pressure ratios with the 15G - a
definite
advantage.
Looking at the 16G (big wheel in TD05H housing) we
see that max
efficiency is only 71%. Putting the same wheel in the TD06
housing
increases efficiency to 74%. Granted the broader shape of
the
"island" compensates for the lower peak efficiency somewhat.
The
18T does have a broader, higher, and better placed peak
efficiency island
(all of 1% higher). But how many people have this
hybrid?
The big
Garrett T04E turbos have peak efficiencies in the 78-80%
range, but how many
(if any) 3S owners use these?
Unfortunately, the nice efficency of the
TD04-9B does not make up for
the fact that it is sized way to small for our
engine. 13G turbos
should have been installed here as well as in Europe, with
a better
fuel system of course on both sides of the pond.
Compressor
maps, turbo guide:
http://www.geocities.com/lutransys/jlucius2/j2-2-turboguide.htm
Jeff
Lucius, www.stealth316.com
-
----- Original Message -----
From: "Joe Gonsowski" <twinturbo@mediaone.net>
To:
"3000GT / Stealth List" <Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
Sent:
Friday, December 21, 2001 4:13 AM
Subject: Team3S: TD04-9B compressor map
revealed
I've posted a message to 3si.org:
http://www.3si.org/vbb/showthread.php?s=c6acaf5cc473004e72da6979f52c7826&thr
eadid=58374
If
the board is too slow for your tastes, take the following
direct
links.
TD04-9B map:
http://people.mw.mediaone.net/twinturbo/TD04-9B_Compressor_Map.htm
Compared
to TD06-"big"16G:
http://people.mw.mediaone.net/twinturbo/16G_Compressor_Map.htm
Happy
Holidays,
Joe Gonsowski
'92 & '96 R/T
TT
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Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 11:20:38
-0800
From: "BlackLight" <BlackLight@Planetice.net>
Subject:
Team3S: Overfilled oil in 94 RT TT
Just need a quick answer, the guys
that do my oil overfilled it about
1/5 or 1/4 of a quart (past 2nd notch,
right before 1st bend in the dip
stk), is this something I should get drained
back out immediately, will
it harm my engine, or is it ok and don't worry
about it?? This is only
the second time they didn't listen to me when I tell
them to put a
certain amount of oil in and they put more in than I tell them
to
because they think that they know more about it than I do . . . At
least
it wasn't more than half a quart over this time . . . Might be time
for
a new shop . . .
Matt Nelson
1994 RT TT
Computer Sales
Consultant
Gateway Computers, Salem OR
Work Phone 503-587-7113
BlackLight@Planetice.Net
www.BlackLight.5u.com
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Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 11:44:14
-0800 (PST)
From: Geoff Mohler <gemohler@www.speedtoys.com>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: Overfilled oil in 94 RT TT
Dont worry about it. 2
quarts would be something to worry about.
On Fri, 21 Dec 2001, BlackLight
wrote:
> Just need a quick answer, the guys that do my oil overfilled
it about
> 1/5 or 1/4 of a quart (past 2nd notch, right before 1st bend in
the dip
> stk), is this something I should get drained back out
immediately, will
> it harm my engine, or is it ok and don't worry about
it?? This is only
> the second time they didn't listen to me when I tell
them to put a
> certain amount of oil in and they put more in than I tell
them to
> because they think that they know more about it than I do . . .
At least
> it wasn't more than half a quart over this time . . . Might be
time for
> a new shop . . .
>
> Matt Nelson
> 1994 RT
TT
> Computer Sales Consultant
> Gateway Computers, Salem OR
>
Work Phone 503-587-7113
> BlackLight@Planetice.Net
> www.BlackLight.5u.com
>
>
>
> *** Info: http://www.Team3S.com/Rules.htm
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>
- ---
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Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 19:41:27
From: "Kevin Umbreit" <unclesam099@hotmail.com>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: stupid question about car colors
Charles,
Mitsu did
produce a handful of silver cars. There are a couple guys with
them on
the 3SI message forum. I have seen one or two of them as well. So
I would assume that this is a factory color. We should ask Mike Reid
in
Canada about this paint color...
- --Kevin Umbreit
Blue '91
R/T
>
>This morning I saw a 1st gen VR4 in the parking lot here
that was SILVER.
>Now we have two VR4's that are Pearl White, but this
thing was actually
>SILVER or metallic Grey. Was SILVER an original
color or was this an Earl
>Scheib job?
>
>Chuck
Willis
>
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Blue '91
R/T
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Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 12:39:47
-0800 (PST)
From: Casey Rayman <theturbodog@yahoo.com>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: stupid question about car colors
I have a Silver '92 VR-4
with 18" 2nd gen wheels. I really wonder
why Mitsu did not make more
silver cars. Its a really nice color for
the car and its really easy to
keep clean. Here are a few picts:
http://www.dfwdsm.org/pics/casey/
Casey
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--- "Willis, Charles E." <cewillis@TexasChildrensHospital.org>
wrote:
> This morning I saw a 1st gen VR4 in the parking lot here that
was
> SILVER.
> Now we have two VR4's that are Pearl White, but this
thing was
> actually
> SILVER or metallic Grey. Was SILVER an
original color or was this
> an Earl
> Scheib job?
>
>
Chuck Willis
>
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Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 14:43:20
-0600
From: "Willis, Charles E." <cewillis@TexasChildrensHospital.org>
Subject:
RE: Team3S: stupid question about car colors
Yeah, I didn't mean any
disrespect, I just did a doubletake because I'm used
to the Pearl White color
and had never seen the silver firsthand until
today. The car I saw had
painted aluminum wheels rather than Chrome.
Chuck
>
-----Original Message-----
> From: Casey Rayman
[SMTP:theturbodog@yahoo.com]
> Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 2:40
PM
> To: team3s@stealth-3000gt.st
>
Subject: Re: Team3S: stupid question about car colors
>
> I have a
Silver '92 VR-4 with 18" 2nd gen wheels. I really wonder
> why Mitsu
did not make more silver cars. Its a really nice color for
> the car
and its really easy to keep clean. Here are a few picts:
>
>
http://www.dfwdsm.org/pics/casey/
>
> Casey
>
> --- "Willis, Charles E." <cewillis@TexasChildrensHospital.org>
wrote:
> > This morning I saw a 1st gen VR4 in the parking lot here
that was
> > SILVER.
> > Now we have two VR4's that are Pearl
White, but this thing was
> > actually
> > SILVER or metallic
Grey. Was SILVER an original color or was this
> > an
Earl
> > Scheib job?
> >
> > Chuck Willis
>
>
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Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 21:51:34
+0100
From: "Roger Gerl \(RTEC\)" <roger.gerl@bluewin.ch>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: Overfilled oil in 94 RT TT
I also once overfilled and finally
found some oil in the catch can that went
out the crankcase ventilation. I
used a hand pump (I usually bleed the
brakes with) to get the oil out. Since
then there was no oil in the catch
can anymore.
Roger
93'3000GT
TT
www.rtec.ch
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Von: "BlackLight" <BlackLight@Planetice.net>
An:
"'Team3S'" <Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
Gesendet:
Freitag, 21. Dezember 2001 20:20
Betreff: Team3S: Overfilled oil in 94 RT
TT
> Just need a quick answer, the guys that do my oil overfilled
it about
> 1/5 or 1/4 of a quart (past 2nd notch, right before 1st bend in
the dip
> stk), is this something I should get drained back out
immediately, will
> it harm my engine, or is it ok and don't worry about
it?? This is only
> the second time they didn't listen to me when I tell
them to put a
> certain amount of oil in and they put more in than I tell
them to
> because they think that they know more about it than I do . . .
At least
> it wasn't more than half a quart over this time . . . Might be
time for
> a new shop . . .
>
> Matt Nelson
> 1994 RT
TT
> Computer Sales Consultant
> Gateway Computers, Salem OR
>
Work Phone 503-587-7113
> BlackLight@Planetice.Net
> www.BlackLight.5u.com
>
>
>
>
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Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 13:17:23
-0800
From: "Jim Berry" <fastmax@home.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S:
Overfilled oil in 94 RT TT
Ahhh yes --- reminds me of the time my
mechanically challenged 16 year
old son added oil to his hand-me-down Datsun
B-210. He added oil to the
filler in the valve cover until no more would go
in --- he came to me
wondering why the car wouldn't run.
No harm was
done --- only a minor depletion of our oil
reserves.
Jim
Berry
=========================================
- ----- Original
Message -----
From: "Geoff Mohler" <gemohler@www.speedtoys.com>
To:
"BlackLight" <BlackLight@Planetice.net>
Cc:
"'Team3S'" <Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
Sent:
Friday, December 21, 2001 11:44 AM
Subject: Re: Team3S: Overfilled oil in 94
RT TT
> Dont worry about it. 2 quarts would be something to
worry about.
>
> On Fri, 21 Dec 2001, BlackLight wrote:
>
> > Just need a quick answer, the guys that do my oil overfilled it
about
> > 1/5 or 1/4 of a quart (past 2nd notch, right before 1st bend
in the dip
> > stk), is this something I should get drained back out
immediately, will
> > it harm my engine, or is it ok and don't worry
about it?? This is only
> > the second time they didn't listen to me
when I tell them to put a
> > certain amount of oil in and they put
more in than I tell them to
> > because they think that they know more
about it than I do . . . At least
> > it wasn't more than half a quart
over this time . . . Might be time for
> > a new shop . . .
>
>
> > Matt Nelson
> > 1994 RT TT
> > Computer
Sales Consultant
> > Gateway Computers, Salem OR
> > Work
Phone 503-587-7113
> > BlackLight@Planetice.Net
> >
www.BlackLight.5u.com
> >
> >
> >
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>
> ---
> Geoff Mohler
>
>
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Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 18:29:10
-0600
From: "cody" <overclck@starband.net>
Subject:
Team3S: Green Car
It's done painting... Well, it will be done
tomorrow. Here is a
picture of it as it was just finished drying in the
"oven." I will have
more pics of her when its all ~done~.
http://63.100.94.113/~prac/green.jpg
-
-Cody
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Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 20:07:57
-0500
From: "bdtrent" <bdtrent@netzero.net>
Subject:
Team3S: Acceptable EGT's (Again)
Russell,
I appreciate your
concern. My numbers are taken off the back turbo,
pre-turbine. It
has been reported on the list on a number of different
occasions what is
generally accepted to be safe pre-turbine EGT's. I've
always subscribed
to the belief that 1800F is the maximum safe EGT, with
1600-1700 being normal
full load temps. These numbers were offered up by
our own Jack T. a
number of years ago when I was first setting my car up.
850C equates to
1562F. I would consider this to be fairly conservative by
any
standards.
Regards,
DaveT
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From: "Furman, Russell" <RFurman2@MassMutual.com>
To:
"'bdtrent'" <bdtrent@netzero.net>
Cc: "'Team 3S'"
<Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
Sent:
Tuesday, December 18, 2001 8:34 AM
Subject: RE: Team3S: Idea for cheaper way
to run 720CC injectors?
Hey Dave if that is before the turbos that's
a little hot..... you really do
not want to be over 850C. If that
is after the turbo that is WAY to hot
and you may want to do a compression
test. Turbos are good for pulling
about 200C out of egts when comparing
pre turbo and post turbo
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Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 20:33:11
-0500
From: "bdtrent" <bdtrent@netzero.net>
Subject:
Team3S: Low Oil
I recently ran my daily driver and occasional Solo 2
companion (Dakota 5.9
R/T) way down on oil. My oil pressure gage wasn't
indicating anything
unusual so I didn't think to check. Much to my
supprise, when I did check
recently, the level didn't even register on the
dip stick. After replacing
the oil, I determined that this poor thing
was 2 qts. low. Thank God for
Mobil 1, but I'm having a hard time
sleeping at night thinking of what
permanent damage I may have
done.
Regards,
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Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 19:55:01
-0600
From: "Alex Pedenko" <apedenko@attbi.com>
Subject: Team3S:
Buzzing
Okay gurus - I need help yet again ;)
When I hit the brake
pedal or the gas pedal there is a buzzing noise coming
from the center
console. It happens as I change the amount of pressure on
the pedal. As the
pedal moves, the buzzing increases. Once I stop moving it,
the buzzing
continues for a few more seconds and then dies down. It doesn't
cut off, it
gradually tapers of.
Any
ideas?
Thanks,
Alex.
'95
VR4
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Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 15:37:23
-0500
From: "Zobel, Kurt" <KURT.ZOBEL@ca.com>
Subject: RE:
Team3S: Overfilled oil in 94 RT TT
Next time tell them to leave it a
quart low, you need to add an oil conditioner after they're done. Then just add
oil or oil additive as you like.
That's what I have resorted to when I have
anyone else change mine. 1/3 qt should not be a problem, but you may get some
extra oil smell and possibly into the intake via PCV
system.
Kurt
- -----Original Message-----
From: BlackLight
[mailto:BlackLight@Planetice.net]
Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 11:21
AM
To: 'Team3S'
Subject: Team3S: Overfilled oil in 94 RT
TT
Just need a quick answer, the guys that do my oil overfilled it
about
1/5 or 1/4 of a quart (past 2nd notch, right before 1st bend in the
dip
stk), is this something I should get drained back out immediately,
will
it harm my engine, or is it ok and don't worry about it?? This is
only
the second time they didn't listen to me when I tell them to put
a
certain amount of oil in and they put more in than I tell them
to
because they think that they know more about it than I do . . . At
least
it wasn't more than half a quart over this time . . . Might be time
for
a new shop . . .
Matt Nelson
1994 RT TT
Computer Sales
Consultant
Gateway Computers, Salem OR
Work Phone 503-587-7113
BlackLight@Planetice.Net
www.BlackLight.5u.com
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Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 21:15:31
-0600
From: "xwing" <xwing@wi.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S:
Acceptable EGT's (Again)
True, I certainly regularly saw over 1800F
preturbo in my
cars with the VPC. You need to be aware that the
VPC
tends to run rich (fuel) and retarded (timing) in my experience,
which
leads to higher EGT. The more retarded the timing is,
the later the
ignition event, so the more unburnt/STILL BURNING
gas can be sent out the
exhaust ports, thus giving high EGT even
if the in-cylinder temps are not as
high as one might think, or see with
more ignition advance.
When I
switched from the HKS VPC/GCC to the Split
Second ARCII unit, the EGT dropped
about 125-200F.
I believe this is due to timing being more advanced.
The ARCII
allowed me to lean the O2 down to around .93-.96V (the
VPC/GCC
had O2 readings of around .98-1.05 at max leanout)
which means the Split
Second is "fooling" the stock computer MORE,
making it think one isn't making
so much hp/needing as much
injector dutycycle...
The stock computer,
when it sees less dutycycle, less airflow values etc,
says "since he's not
making as much HP, let's give more advanced
ignition timing to give better
GAS MILEAGE"...or at least a more
advanced state than with the
VPC/GCC.
More advanced timing means LOWER EGT. It could
mean
more, or less, HP. It certainly meant "melted piston" to my
94
before the 2001 DSM Shootout when I tried adding only 50hp of
nitrous
to it; melted piston the first pass. It had worked FINE with
100hp of
nitrous with the VPC/GCC (no melt) though the VPC
did not seem to like to get
back "on the cam" after shifts with the
nitrous--which is why I switched to
the Split Second. I was SURE I'd need
at least 100hp nitrous and a lot
of luck to even COMPTETE in, much less
WIN, the 2001 DSM Shootout; who'd have
known. I should have left
it alone and used no nitrous...I had
everybody covered on the only
pass I ever made with the Split Second NO
nitrous, no tuning,
with an 11.45/121.45...Sigh. Wish they had
datalogging for the '94's,
I'd have saved myself alot of grief.
Jack
T.
From: "bdtrent" <bdtrent@netzero.net> [snips]
Sent:
Friday, December 21, 2001 7:07 PM
> My numbers are back
turbo,
> pre-turbine. It has been reported on the list
>
generally accepted safe pre-turbine EGT's. I
> subscribe 1800F is
max safe EGT, with
> 1600-1700 being normal full load temp. These
were offered up by
> Jack T. years ago when I was setting my car
up.
> 850C equates to 1562F. I consider this fairly
conservative
> DaveT
> From: "Furman, Russell" <RFurman2@MassMutual.com>
>
To: "'bdtrent'" <bdtrent@netzero.net>> Sent: Tuesday,
December 18, 2001
8:34 AM
> Dave if that's before turbos that's a
little hot. You do
> not want >850C. Turbos are good
for pulling out
> about 200C comparing pre/post
turbo
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Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 21:21:50
-0600
From: "Philip V. Glazatov" <gphilip@umich.edu>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: Low Oil
Sleep tight, Dave. Modern engines do not rely on crank
splashing oil on
cylinder walls, so as long as oil pump is not pumping air
up the oil
galleys, your engine will run okay. Two quarts below max is no
big deal if
you did not run like that for all the 3K miles, climb steep
hills, or made
sharp 1.0 g turns.
Philip
At 07:33 PM 12/21/01,
bdtrent wrote:
>I recently ran my daily driver and occasional Solo 2
companion (Dakota 5.9
>R/T) way down on oil. My oil pressure gage
wasn't indicating anything
>unusual so I didn't think to check. Much
to my supprise, when I did check
>recently, the level didn't even register
on the dip stick. After replacing
>the oil, I determined that this
poor thing was 2 qts. low. Thank God for
>Mobil 1, but I'm having a
hard time sleeping at night thinking of what
>permanent damage I may have
done.
>
>Regards,
>DaveT/92TT
>
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Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2001 01:50:22
-0600
From: "Alex Pedenko" <apedenko@attbi.com>
Subject: Team3S:
Brake bleeding
I can't seem to find the post in the archives, but
somebody at one point
found a hand-pump hydraulic brake bleeding unit. It
attached itself to the
brake fluid bottle or something like that and pushed
through with the fluid.
It was an on-line deal that ran ~$50.
If
anybody knows where to find this, I'd really appreciate a link
or
something.
Thanks,
Alex.
'95
VR4
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Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2001 10:30:34
-0500
From: "Bill vP" <billvp@highstream.net>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: Brake bleeding
have you tried www.speedbleeder.com ?
Bill
-
----- Original Message -----
From: Alex Pedenko <apedenko@attbi.com>
To: 'Team3S'
<team3s@team3s.com>
Sent:
Saturday, December 22, 2001 2:50 AM
Subject: Team3S: Brake
bleeding
> I can't seem to find the post in the archives, but
somebody at one point
> found a hand-pump hydraulic brake bleeding unit.
It attached itself to the
> brake fluid bottle or something like that and
pushed through with the
fluid.
> It was an on-line deal that ran
~$50.
>
> If anybody knows where to find this, I'd really appreciate
a link or
> something.
>
>
Thanks,
>
>
Alex.
>
> '95 VR4
>
>
>
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Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2001 12:03:43
-0600
From: "Alex Pedenko" <apedenko@attbi.com>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: Brake bleeding
Yeah, i have those...
I'm talkin about a
unit that attaches to the brake fluid reservoir and can
work in conjunction
with those...
Thanks,
Alex
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Original Message -----
From: "Bill vP" <billvp@highstream.net>
To:
"Team3S" <Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
Sent:
Saturday, December 22, 2001 9:30 AM
Subject: Re: Team3S: Brake
bleeding
> have you tried www.speedbleeder.com ?
>
>
Bill
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Alex Pedenko <apedenko@attbi.com>
> To: 'Team3S'
<team3s@team3s.com>
> Sent:
Saturday, December 22, 2001 2:50 AM
> Subject: Team3S: Brake
bleeding
>
>
> > I can't seem to find the post in the
archives, but somebody at one point
> > found a hand-pump hydraulic
brake bleeding unit. It attached itself to
the
> > brake fluid
bottle or something like that and pushed through with the
> fluid.
>
> It was an on-line deal that ran ~$50.
> >
> > If anybody
knows where to find this, I'd really appreciate a link or
> >
something.
> >
> > Thanks,
>
>
> > Alex.
>
>
> > '95 VR4
> >
> >
> >
> >
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