Team3S: 3000GT & Stealth Friday, December 21
2001 Volume 01 : Number
705
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Date:
Thu, 20 Dec 2001 11:46:06 -0500
From: "Darren Schilberg" <
dschilberg@pobox.com>
Subject: RE:
Team3S: Altered Atmosphere
Sorry, Alan, for not mentioning that on the
list. I got to it from my
site, then Eric Bowden's East Coast Gathering
Page, then the link at the
bottom to your page. Thanks for the pix of
the place and thanks for
reminding me to give your site credit. There
were some other pix but
the links from Eric's did not make it.
If you
have any other pictures of the dyno, fans, computer graph, etc.
that are
pertinent then let the list know. I don't know if you have a
bunch that
just not uploaded.
- --Flash!
1995 VR-4 with race seat in one of
Alan's picture
- -----Original Message-----
From: Alan C. Sheffield
[mailto:a92rttt@hotmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001
11:35
hey, thats my website 8-)
I more direct link(and less load
on my poor server)
http://mi3si.org/gatherings/ecg2k1/jpgs/MVC-044F.JPG***
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Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 11:47:21
-0500
From: "Furman, Russell" <
RFurman2@MassMutual.com>
Subject:
RE: Team3S: Altered Atmosphere
Darren, the fan show there is a belt
driven version of what I have (probably
larger) mine is only 36" that looks
like a 48" or larger. If they have two
of those that should be more
than adequate.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Darren
Schilberg [SMTP:dschilberg@pobox.com]
> Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001
11:23 AM
> To: 'Team 3S'
> Subject: RE: Team3S: Altered
Atmosphere
>
> In some of the pics I have found from my visit there
they had two or
> three fans feeding the front of the car. I don't
know what speed they
> were.
>
>
http://mi3si.org/phproot/image.php?image=/gatherings/ecg2k1/jpgs/MVC-044>
F.JPG
>
> --Flash!
>
> -----Original
Message-----
> From: Furman, Russell
> Sent: Thursday, December 20,
2001 09:23
>
> I have not yet checked with Mike but I would
recommend that you
> buy
> + bring an Electric HV (high velocity)
Fan. I have one right now that I
> use
> to draw fumes/dust
etc out of my garage when I am working on my car. I
> will
>
be buying a second so that I can have each of my fans blowing air
>
through
> the IC's while using theirs to blow air through the radiator.
>
> The fan was about $150, they are probably closer to 200 now
but
> its
> cheap insurance if Mike will let you use them, and they
have a multitude
> of
> other uses if you do not mid the noise they
make.
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Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 11:35:20
-0500
From: "Alan C. Sheffield" <
a92rttt@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: Altered Atmosphere
hey, thats my website 8-)
I more direct
link(and less load on my poor server)
http://mi3si.org/gatherings/ecg2k1/jpgs/MVC-044F.JPG-
----- Original Message -----
From: "Darren Schilberg" <
dschilberg@pobox.com>
To: "'Team
3S'" <
Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
Sent:
Thursday, December 20, 2001 11:22 AM
Subject: RE: Team3S: Altered
Atmosphere
> In some of the pics I have found from my visit there they
had two or
> three fans feeding the front of the car. I don't know
what speed they
> were.
>
>
http://mi3si.org/phproot/image.php?image=/gatherings/ecg2k1/jpgs/MVC-044>
F.JPG
>
> --Flash!
>
> -----Original
Message-----
> From: Furman, Russell
> Sent: Thursday, December 20,
2001 09:23
>
> I have not yet checked with Mike but I would
recommend that you
> buy
> + bring an Electric HV (high velocity)
Fan. I have one right now that I
> use
> to draw fumes/dust
etc out of my garage when I am working on my car. I
> will
>
be buying a second so that I can have each of my fans blowing air
>
through
> the IC's while using theirs to blow air through the
radiator.
>
> The fan was about $150, they are probably closer to
200 now but
> its
> cheap insurance if Mike will let you use them,
and they have a multitude
> of
> other uses if you do not mid the
noise they make.
*** Info:
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Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 12:28:59
-0500
From: "Furman, Russell" <
RFurman2@MassMutual.com>
Subject:
RE: Team3S: Altered Atmosphere
From the looks of it that fan moves at
least 12100 CFM (probably
closer to 15K CFM) It appears to be from the "Heat
Buster" lineup. So two
of those will provide plenty of
cooling........
> Darren, the fan show there is a belt driven version
of what I have
> (probably
> larger) mine is only 36" that looks
like a 48" or larger. If they have
> two
> of those that
should be more than adequate.
>
> > -----Original
Message-----
> > From: Darren Schilberg
[SMTP:dschilberg@pobox.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001 11:23
AM
> > To: 'Team 3S'
> > Subject: RE: Team3S: Altered
Atmosphere
> >
> > In some of the pics I have found from my
visit there they had two or
> > three fans feeding the front of the
car. I don't know what speed they
> > were.
> >
>
>
http://mi3si.org/phproot/image.php?image=/gatherings/ecg2k1/jpgs/MVC-044>
> F.JPG
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Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 13:38:42
-0500
From: "Mihai Raicu" <
mraicu@wayne.edu>
Subject: RE: Team3S:
Down Pipes and Boost Controllers
Actually, like Matt J. already
mentioned, the Apexi AVC-R requires some
adjustment during change of
weather. When going from winter to spring,
the AVC-R can usually tune
itself if left in learning mode, because the
duty setting is going to
increase overall. However, when going from
fall to winter, the AVC-R
DUTY curve needs to be turned down 2-3%
overall. Then, if left in
learning mode, the unit will raise the curve
in some spots another ~1%.
It's a simple thing that you go through to avoid overspikes. I
always
leave my unit in learning mode for gear 3 and 4, and am happy. I
can
always floor it. However, my brother does not like the learning
mode,
so he has to avoid flooring his car below 4000 RPM.
People
adjust one way or another, whether they use an EBC or MBC.
-
-MIHAI-
95 Red VR4
brother John
94 Pearl Yellow TT
Date:
Wed, 19 Dec 2001 11:10:34 -0600
From: "Jannusch, Matt" <
mjannusch@marketwatch.com>
Subject:
RE: Team3S: Down Pipes and Boost Controllers
> I love my Blitz
DSBC! A waste of money by no means. Here in
> Minnesota I've
had to adjust the amount of boost 3 or 4 times
> this winter to
compensate for the weather.
A good boost controller shouldn't require
adjustments to compensate for
weather changes. You should be able to
set it for a target boost level
and it should stay there. Wandering
boost levels shouldn't be
acceptable in an electronic boost
controller.
- - -Matt
'95 3000GT Spyder VR4
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Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 11:40:51
-0800 (PST)
From: AmkreadGTO <
amkreadgto@yahoo.com>
Subject: RE:
Team3S: Altered Atmosphere
Why are you getting the HKS Ign Amp?? Did
AAM
recommend it??
I have one... and with copper plugs 2 ranger
colder
than stock.. im still getting spark blowbys on boost
over 1.3 bar
on the GT357 turbos...
w/o the HKS unit, I wasnt even able to boost
over
1bar...
I would try the Accel coils 1st... everyone seem
to
have 'wonderful' things to say about it.. and it hella
lot cheaper~
Best,
George
- --- "Payne, Scott" <
SPayne@hunton.com> wrote:
> Well so
far the overwhelming response to AAM is very
> positive. Tomorrow I
am
> getting the following mods -
> 1994 Dodge Steath Twin Turbo
R/T
> K&N Filter Charger
>
> Mods tomorrow:
> BLITZ
Dual SBC-i
> Y-Pipe
> Down Pipe
> high flow main
cat
> Gut pre-Cats
> Ignition system (HKS Twin Power Ignition
Amplifiers)
> NGK plugs
> 2 Dyno runs
>
> In a few
months I plan to add a little NOS....
>
> -----Original
Message-----
> From: Darren Schilberg
[mailto:dschilberg@pobox.com]
> Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001 11:23
AM
> To: 'Team 3S'
> Subject: RE: Team3S: Altered Atmosphere
>
>
> In some of the pics I have found from my visit there
>
they had two or
> three fans feeding the front of the car. I
don't
> know what speed they
> were.
>
>
http://mi3si.org/phproot/image.php?image=/gatherings/ecg2k1/jpgs/MVC-044>
F.JPG
>
> --Flash!
>
> -----Original
Message-----
> From: Furman, Russell
> Sent: Thursday, December 20,
2001 09:23
>
> I have not yet checked with Mike but I
would
> recommend that you
> buy
> + bring an Electric HV
(high velocity) Fan. I have
> one right now that I
>
use
> to draw fumes/dust etc out of my garage when I am
> working on
my car. I
> will
> be buying a second so that I can have each
of my
> fans blowing air
> through
> the IC's while using
theirs to blow air through the
> radiator.
>
> The fan was
about $150, they are probably closer to
> 200 now but
> its
>
cheap insurance if Mike will let you use them, and
> they have a
multitude
> of
> other uses if you do not mid the noise they make.
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Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 15:04:22
-0500
From: "Mannah, Zinnah" <
ZMANNAH@imf.org>
Subject: Team3S: Price
of a NEW ECU for 91 RT TT
Do anyone know where I can get a new ECU for my
stealth RT TT??
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Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 12:16:35
-0800 (PST)
From: Jeff Lucius <
stealthman92@yahoo.com>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: Price of a NEW ECU for 91 RT TT
There isn't a TEAM3S FAQ on
this?
1) First, be sure need a new ECM. Often, just three capacitors
need
replaced to make the ECM work correctly (assuming no
collateral
damage). These caps will cost you $5. Also, dealers will often
tell
you a new ECM is needed when in reality some other part is bad. It
is
the rare dealership mechanic that has a clue about how to work on
these
cars. I list several shops that will repair your ECM for you on
the huge
Links Page (see the Specialty section) at my web site.
2) If you need a
*new* ECM, then check with the discount dealers
listed on Team3S and the
Garage page at my web site. List price is
about $1000.
3) If a used
ECM in good working condition will satisfy you then
check with the used parts
yards listed on Team3S and the Garage page
at my web site.
Note that
*generally* ECMs are not interchangeable between years and
models.
How
to remove the ECM:
http://www.geocities.com/lutransys/jlucius5/j5-2-ecmremoval.htmJeff
Lucius,
www.stealth316.com-
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mannah, Zinnah" <
ZMANNAH@imf.org>
To: <
Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
Sent:
Thursday, December 20, 2001 1:04 PM
Subject: Team3S: Price of a NEW ECU for
91 RT TT
Do anyone know where I can get a new ECU for my stealth RT
TT??
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Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 15:58:18
-0500
From: "Mannah, Zinnah" <
ZMANNAH@imf.org>
Subject: RE: Team3S:
Price of a NEW ECU for 91 RT TT
Thanks Jeff, Is there an upgraded ECM for
this car? How do I go about
checking the three capacitors?
Zee
mannah
- -----Original Message-----
From: Jeff Lucius
[mailto:stealthman92@yahoo.com]
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001 3:17
PM
To:
Team3S@stealth-3000gt.stCc:
Mannah, Zinnah
Subject: Re: Team3S: Price of a NEW ECU for 91 RT
TT
There isn't a TEAM3S FAQ on this?
1) First, be sure need a new
ECM. Often, just three capacitors need
replaced to make the ECM work
correctly (assuming no collateral
damage). These caps will cost you $5. Also,
dealers will often tell
you a new ECM is needed when in reality some other
part is bad. It is
the rare dealership mechanic that has a clue about how to
work on
these cars. I list several shops that will repair your ECM for you
on
the huge Links Page (see the Specialty section) at my web site.
2)
If you need a *new* ECM, then check with the discount dealers
listed on
Team3S and the Garage page at my web site. List price is
about
$1000.
3) If a used ECM in good working condition will satisfy you
then
check with the used parts yards listed on Team3S and the Garage
page
at my web site.
Note that *generally* ECMs are not
interchangeable between years and
models.
How to remove the ECM:
http://www.geocities.com/lutransys/jlucius5/j5-2-ecmremoval.htmJeff
Lucius,
www.stealth316.com-
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mannah, Zinnah" <
ZMANNAH@imf.org>
To: <
Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
Sent:
Thursday, December 20, 2001 1:04 PM
Subject: Team3S: Price of a NEW ECU for
91 RT TT
Do anyone know where I can get a new ECU for my stealth RT
TT??
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Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 22:30:20
+0100
From: "Roger Gerl \(RTEC\)" <
roger.gerl@bluewin.ch>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: Altered Atmosphere
And where does the fresh air comming from
in this little room ?
I had my car on an AWD dyno many years ago and I
only tell from experience.
And the lack of intercoolign is the cause why they
do not run a full sweep
but a short pull. I understand this, as otherwise
engines are in danger.
Been there done that.
If I ever will have the
chance I will take a pic of some of the dynos
around. The one I had the cars
on was also not well equipped and had only a
fan twice the size of the one in
the pic. But as said, for a two or three
second quicky it's enough. When
doing longer be sure to watch the temp
gauge.
Roger
93'3000GT
TT
www.rtec.ch-
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: "Furman, Russell" <
RFurman2@MassMutual.com>
An:
"'Team 3S'" <
Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
Gesendet:
Donnerstag, 20. Dezember 2001 18:28
Betreff: RE: Team3S: Altered
Atmosphere
> From the looks of it that fan moves at least 12100 CFM
(probably
> closer to 15K CFM) It appears to be from the "Heat Buster"
lineup. So
two
> of those will provide plenty of
cooling........
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Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 22:36:24
+0100
From: "Roger Gerl \(RTEC\)" <
roger.gerl@bluewin.ch>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: Altered Atmosphere
Voilà, here we go. Just pay for what is
not useful.
The HKS Amplifier doesn't help you anything until the rest of
the ignition
system is upgraded. Of course people say "I felt a 10% hp
increase" and
others tell that the spark blowout went away. Unfortunately, it
came back a
few days after leaving the garage or went off the dyno
drums.
At the moment, it seems that only the Acell coil upgrade helps.
You may just
ask AAM about the stock coils and please let us know what they
gonna say as
we still are searching for a good (or the best) solution. And I
don't want
to ask how much you pay for this amp !! The DIS-4 is a cheaper
solution,
although larger in size.
Let us know what they tell you
;-)
Roger
93'3000GT TT
www.rtec.ch- -----Ursprüngliche
Nachricht-----
Von: "Payne, Scott" <
SPayne@hunton.com>
An: <
dschilberg@pobox.com>; "'Team 3S'"
<
Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
Gesendet:
Donnerstag, 20. Dezember 2001 17:38
Betreff: RE: Team3S: Altered
Atmosphere
> Well so far the overwhelming response to AAM is very
positive. Tomorrow I
am
> getting the following mods -
> 1994
Dodge Steath Twin Turbo R/T
> K&N Filter Charger
>
> Mods
tomorrow:
> BLITZ Dual SBC-i
> Y-Pipe
> Down Pipe
> high
flow main cat
> Gut pre-Cats
> Ignition system (HKS Twin Power
Ignition Amplifiers)
> NGK plugs
> 2 Dyno runs
>
> In a
few months I plan to add a little NOS....
>
>
>
>
-----Original Message-----
> From: Darren Schilberg
[mailto:dschilberg@pobox.com]
> Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001 11:23
AM
> To: 'Team 3S'
> Subject: RE: Team3S: Altered
Atmosphere
>
>
> In some of the pics I have found from my
visit there they had two or
> three fans feeding the front of the
car. I don't know what speed they
> were.
>
>
http://mi3si.org/phproot/image.php?image=/gatherings/ecg2k1/jpgs/MVC-044>
F.JPG
>
> --Flash!
>
> -----Original
Message-----
> From: Furman, Russell
> Sent: Thursday, December 20,
2001 09:23
>
> I have not yet checked with Mike but I would
recommend that you
> buy
> + bring an Electric HV (high velocity)
Fan. I have one right now that I
> use
> to draw fumes/dust
etc out of my garage when I am working on my car. I
> will
>
be buying a second so that I can have each of my fans blowing air
>
through
> the IC's while using theirs to blow air through the
radiator.
>
> The fan was about $150, they are probably closer to
200 now but
> its
> cheap insurance if Mike will let you use them,
and they have a multitude
> of
> other uses if you do not mid the
noise they make.
*** Info:
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Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 16:36:50
-0500
From: "Jeff VanOrsdal" <
jeffv@1nce.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S:
Altered Atmosphere
>>>And where does the fresh air comming from
in this little room ?
The full height bay door that's just behind the
dyno. It leads directly
into the parking lot.
Jeff V.
-
-----Original Message-----
From:
owner-team3s@team3s.com
[mailto:owner-team3s@team3s.com]On Behalf
Of Roger Gerl (RTEC)
Sent:
Thursday, December 20, 2001 4:30 PM
To: 'Team 3S'
Subject: Re: Team3S:
Altered Atmosphere
And where does the fresh air comming from in this
little room ?
I had my car on an AWD dyno many years ago and I only tell
from experience.
And the lack of intercoolign is the cause why they do not
run a full sweep
but a short pull. I understand this, as otherwise engines
are in danger.
Been there done that.
If I ever will have the chance I
will take a pic of some of the dynos
around. The one I had the cars on was
also not well equipped and had only a
fan twice the size of the one in the
pic. But as said, for a two or three
second quicky it's enough. When doing
longer be sure to watch the temp
gauge.
Roger
93'3000GT TT
www.rtec.ch- -----Ursprüngliche
Nachricht-----
Von: "Furman, Russell" <
RFurman2@MassMutual.com>
An:
"'Team 3S'" <
Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
Gesendet:
Donnerstag, 20. Dezember 2001 18:28
Betreff: RE: Team3S: Altered
Atmosphere
> From the looks of it that fan moves at least 12100 CFM
(probably
> closer to 15K CFM) It appears to be from the "Heat Buster"
lineup. So
two
> of those will provide plenty of
cooling........
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Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 22:42:03
+0100
From: "Roger Gerl \(RTEC\)" <
roger.gerl@bluewin.ch>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: Altered Atmosphere
Yeah, as usual... always the same blabla
for this :
- -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: "Jeff VanOrsdal"
<
jeffv@1nce.com>
> their
cars on the track. They also have a FWD TT (which Roger
said
couldn't
> possibly be making the power it does) similar to mine,
but with many more
> upgrades running 13 flat with a rookie
driver.
A transplanted TT ?? What boost, what compression, what fuel...
sorry
probably too many questions.
> They also have a few customer
cars with varying levels of "official" shop
> support running some good
times. Trent Karr, whose car was built by AAM
was
> running mid-high
12s with very little in the way of bolt-ons. I can
probably
> dig up
the information if you really want it.
No, not really.
By the way,
did you guys knew that I dynoed my car once with 467hp with only
a FIPK and
DSBC ? Just to tell what the term "little in the way of
bolt-ons"
means.
Roger
93'3000GT TT
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Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 23:23:26
+0100
From: "Roger Gerl \(RTEC\)" <
roger.gerl@bluewin.ch>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: Altered Atmosphere
> So Roger, when are we going to see
some 600+ whp cars coming off of those
> fine Swiss dynos?
I
snipped the whining stuff.
Not all people tend to ask more critical
questions before the buy something.
I'm probably more critical than others
and I do NOT see any cause for
flaming anyone. Any rules about flaming can be
reviewed in the rules of this
list.
Unfortunately, the HKS TwinPower
case is just one example for getting
answers first. Some of us already tried
this part and did not come to any
better result. Therefore shops are also
trying on customers cars when they
say you should have such an upgrade ?
Wouldn't it be better to ask more
about this ?
I personally think it's
really great that there are more and more AWD dynos
in the US. Especially as
I remember that I asked one for the power loss
curve during the loss debatte
and the dyno operator told that this is not
possible. But interestingly the
guy from DynoJet told me that some operators
just don't know how to use their
tool as everything we can do with our dynos
is also possible with the
DynoJet. So why do the operators say no we can't ?
Maybe they do today and
this is what I asked for !
DynoJet stays for a day within the shop with
different cars so the operators
can learn. But he also mentioned that some do
not invest enough in cooling
and fresh air that should help to cool down the
temps. We do have the same
kind of shops here too, even such that install a
bleeder valve and sell this
for a $1000 chip upgrade. I know some of them and
I fineally found only
three dynos here where everything is save : The car
well strapped down with
four straps, four cooling channels placed
individually infront where needed.
In fact, the fan must produce that much
air like when driving at around
100mph or even more. Just take a convertible
and stand up right in the back
seat at 100mph. The dyno close to my house has
a dyno that alternates the
air to the cooling parts with the speed of the
drums (i.e. speed). I call
this real engineering.
A dyno run also
costs me about $90 but this are 2-3 full sweeps and take up
about 45 minutes.
This are not only pulls to find out the max power in an
rpm band. So why not
asking for a power loss curve ?
I do not blame anybody or any shop but I
hate it when people are getting
ripped. A question was asked and some people
do not like to hear slightly
negative words. I can say pro's and con's about
different shops because
people sending me emails and asking for help as their
car is not running
well after 1 week in the shop. We even had such cases on
the list or on the
message board and some of them are not nice. If AAM or
GT-PRO, Extreme or
Buschur, all do their job sometimes good but sometimes
not.
Roger
93'3000GT TT
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Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 15:49:36
-0800
From: Richard <
radanc@home.com>
Subject: Team3S: TMO
Dataloggers
FYI. Buschur just got a small quantity of these units in. I
have been
waiting around 6-7 months for mine. Not sure if the rest are all
spoken
for, but grab them while they are
available.
Rich
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Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 01:06:09
+0000
From: "Aaron Kealey" <
aaron_kealey@hotmail.com>
Subject:
Team3S: BOV Tuning
Hey all,
Just threw in an HKS Super Sequential
Blow off Valve, and was wondering how
to properly set the adjustment
knob.
It came out of my buddy's written-off Volvo S70, and so far i haven't
touched the adjustment, but it seems to work okay. Alot louder than when it
was on his car though. Should i tighten it up due to the more volume of air
I'm pushing through it? Are there any rules of thumb in this area?
As
always,
Appreciated
Aaron
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Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 06:13:15
-0500
From: Joe Gonsowski <
twinturbo@mediaone.net>
Subject:
Team3S: TD04-9B compressor map revealed
I've posted a message to
3si.org:
http://www.3si.org/vbb/showthread.php?s=c6acaf5cc473004e72da6979f52c7826&threadid=58374 If
the board is too slow for your tastes, take the following
direct
links.
TD04-9B map:
http://people.mw.mediaone.net/twinturbo/TD04-9B_Compressor_Map.htm Compared
to TD06-"big"16G:
http://people.mw.mediaone.net/twinturbo/16G_Compressor_Map.htm Happy
Holidays,
Joe Gonsowski
'92 & '96 R/T TT
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Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 08:19:51
-0600
From: "Willis, Charles E." <
cewillis@TexasChildrensHospital.org>
Subject:
Team3S: stupid question about car colors
This morning I saw a 1st gen VR4
in the parking lot here that was SILVER.
Now we have two VR4's that are Pearl
White, but this thing was actually
SILVER or metallic Grey. Was SILVER
an original color or was this an Earl
Scheib job?
Chuck Willis
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Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 09:44:14
-0500
From:
AMastrangelo@giwindustries.comSubject:
Team3S: RE:Transmission Problem
Hey All,
Last night driving 80 my car began to jerk so I pulled over. I then
put the
car in reverse and it did not move.Put it back in drive and took
off
overdrive and it drove.Pulled over about 1/16 mile and pulled out
the
transmission stick and smoke was coming out of it and there was a
burnt
smell. Looking down at the transmission i noticed there was fluid on
the cv
joint.Went to roll the car off the tow truck and when put in any gear,
the
car did not move.Is there a site with the information needed to pull
out
the transmission and do a complete rebuild? Where can I purchase a
rebuild
kit from? I guess I can thank santa for my early christmas
present.(tore up
transmission).Any help or suggestions would be
appreciated.
Thanks,
Anthony
1992 GT/SL
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Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 10:16:49
-0500
From: "Bill vP" <
billvp@highstream.net>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: Altered Atmosphere
Mike from AAM also posted on 3si that he
was going to do a before and after
dyno pull with the Accel coils.
Please let us know of the results (if he
has done them by the time you get
there) when you get there.
- ----- Original Message -----
From: Roger
Gerl (RTEC) <
roger.gerl@bluewin.ch>
To: 'Team
3S' <
Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
Sent:
Thursday, December 20, 2001 4:36 PM
Subject: Re: Team3S: Altered
Atmosphere
> At the moment, it seems that only the Acell coil upgrade
helps. You may
just
> ask AAM about the stock coils and please let us
know what they gonna say
as
> we still are searching for a good (or the
best) solution. And I don't want
> to ask how much you pay for this amp !!
The DIS-4 is a cheaper solution,
> although larger in
size.
>
> Let us know what they tell you ;-)
>
>
Roger
> 93'3000GT TT
>
www.rtec.ch>
> -----Ursprüngliche
Nachricht-----
> Von: "Payne, Scott" <
SPayne@hunton.com>
> An: <
dschilberg@pobox.com>; "'Team 3S'"
<
Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
>
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 20. Dezember 2001 17:38
> Betreff: RE: Team3S:
Altered Atmosphere
>
> > Well so far the overwhelming response to
AAM is very positive. Tomorrow
I
> am
> > getting the
following mods -
> > 1994 Dodge Steath Twin Turbo R/T
> >
K&N Filter Charger
> >
> > Mods tomorrow:
> >
BLITZ Dual SBC-i
> > Y-Pipe
> > Down Pipe
> > high
flow main cat
> > Gut pre-Cats
> > Ignition system (HKS Twin
Power Ignition Amplifiers)
> > NGK plugs
> > 2 Dyno
runs
> >
> > In a few months I plan to add a little
NOS....
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Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 10:22:49
-0500
From: "Stewart, Clay" <
cdstewar@UU.NET>
Subject: RE: Team3S:
RE:Transmission Problem
My son had a similar experience with his 92' VR4
last month. I found upon
closer inspection that the root problem was no
gear oil in the transfer
case. There was exactly 1/4 cup. A lot
on the top side of case, on under
carriage, and had rolled down to
boots. Further investigation found that
91' VR4s had a major recall of
transfer case lockup because of overflow tube
on transfer case blew out most
or all of gear oil at high speed. Also found
out, even for a car with
130k and 10 years old, Mitsubishi would perform the
unlimited recall for this
problem, as long it was a '91 VR4 !! Lastly, I
found out that a
previous owner had a pro garage replace the transfer case
in the late
90s. My conclusion is that they replaced the 92 case with a 91
case
that had the recall problem. Do any of you experienced techs agree
with
this conclusion?
Meanwhile, I too, look for the most detailed information
for removal/install
of transfer case and transmission
(transaxle?).
Thanks.
Clay Stewart
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Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 10:01:55
-0600
From: Merritt <
merritt@cedar-rapids.net>
Subject:
Team3S: Off topic -- lawnmower racing
I know this is off topic, but I
just gotta share this with you....
I figure some of you will appreciate
it.
We moved into a new house recently, and attended our first
neighborhood
party last night.
Turns out they like to quaff a few
beers on a summer night, roll out the
lawn tractors, and race. We live on a
U-shaped street with a big pond in
the center, and a lap around (on the
street) is about 3/4 of a mile.
I have a 15.5 hp 6-speed Sears Craftsman
42-in. lawn tractor. What can I do
to it that would give me an unfair
advantage? How about racing fuel? Nitro?
NOx? Straight exhaust? Drop the
mower attachment? Gear change? A smaller
rear sprocket would give me a
higher top end, right? I probably won't have
time to make changes before a
race, because it sounds like a
spur-of-the-moment activity, so it's gonna
have to be a five-minute mod
(like pouring in a can of nitro, or something).
I don't think handling or
brakes will be a problem -- I just gotta go for top
end. Any ideas?
I still gotta mow the lawn with it, but I'd like to
whup up on the
neighbors when the time comes. Be nice to pull wheelies with
it, too.
Rich/old poop
94 VR4
92 Eagle Talon TSi
99 (?)
Craftsman Turbo-Cool
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Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 07:56:20
-0800 (PST)
From: Jeff Lucius <
stealthman92@yahoo.com>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: RE:Transmission Problem
- --- "Stewart, Clay" <
cdstewar@UU.NET>
wrote:
<snip>
> Meanwhile, I too, look for the most detailed
information for
> removal/install of transfer case and transmission
(transaxle?).
My web page below may help a little with transaxle/TC
R&R.
http://www.geocities.com/lutransys/blucius/b-2-trany.htmChanging/checking
AWD drivetrain fluids:
http://www.geocities.com/lutransys/jlucius/2-awddrainfill.htmJeff
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Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 11:01:20
-0500
From: "Peter Howey" <
stimpy@freedomdrivingaids.com>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: Off topic -- lawnmower racing
Make sure you have a wheelie
bar if you're into popping the clutch. I
squashed the hell out of
myself last summer on grandma's White 12 horse
mower fucking around in the
driveway.
Cheers,
Pete
[hi Aric!]
- ----- Original Message
-----
From: "Merritt" <
merritt@cedar-rapids.net>
To:
<
3sracers@speedtoys.com>;
<
Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
Sent:
Friday, December 21, 2001 11:01 AM
Subject: Team3S: Off topic -- lawnmower
racing
I know this is off topic, but I just gotta share this with
you....
I figure some of you will appreciate it.
We moved into a new
house recently, and attended our first neighborhood
party last
night.
Turns out they like to quaff a few beers on a summer night, roll
out the
lawn tractors, and race. We live on a U-shaped street with a big pond
in
the center, and a lap around (on the street) is about 3/4 of a
mile.
I have a 15.5 hp 6-speed Sears Craftsman 42-in. lawn tractor. What
can I do
to it that would give me an unfair advantage? How about racing fuel?
Nitro?
NOx? Straight exhaust? Drop the mower attachment? Gear change? A
smaller
rear sprocket would give me a higher top end, right? I probably won't
have
time to make changes before a race, because it sounds like
a
spur-of-the-moment activity, so it's gonna have to be a five-minute
mod
(like pouring in a can of nitro, or something). I don't think handling
or
brakes will be a problem -- I just gotta go for top end. Any
ideas?
I still gotta mow the lawn with it, but I'd like to whup up on
the
neighbors when the time comes. Be nice to pull wheelies with it,
too.
Rich/old poop
94 VR4
92 Eagle Talon TSi
99 (?) Craftsman
Turbo-Cool
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Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 08:09:54
-0800
From: "ek2mfg" <
ek2mfg@foxinternet.com>
Subject:
RE: Team3S: Off topic -- lawnmower racing
Drop a smaller tooth sprocket
in the rear and mow in a lower gear...I
could help you with the sprocket if
you need one for a minimal
fee.....loose the mower attachment....keep the
fuel stuff to the
norm...you want this thing to last...not have bragging
rights for the
big summer win. Play with the high limit rpm stop on the
carb...1/2
turn could mean 1 mower lenghth....put on that "big gulp" air
flow
thing you put together for your 3S for a cold air intake.....or
even
better...put airplane props on the mower deck to lighten the
weight
of the mower.....like a hover craft :)
Most importantly, and
this is an absolute must....install a cup
holder. Nobody is going to care
about the fastest mower when you can
"cruise" in style and pound a 20 Oz. in
one hand and drive in the
other.......I have many gouges in my fence from one
arming the turn
with a beer.....never spill the beer......reinstall a board
or two
but never spill beer.
bobk.
- ---- Original Message
----
From:
merritt@cedar-rapids.netTo:
3sracers@speedtoys.com,
Team3S@stealth-3000gt.stSubject:
RE: Team3S: Off topic -- lawnmower racing
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 10:01:55
-0600
>I know this is off topic, but I just gotta share this with
you....
>I figure some of you will appreciate it.
>
>We moved
into a new house recently, and attended our first
>neighborhood
>party last night.
>
>Turns out they like
to quaff a few beers on a summer night, roll out
>the
>lawn
tractors, and race. We live on a U-shaped street with a big
>pond
in
>the center, and a lap around (on the street) is about 3/4 of a mile.
>
>I have a 15.5 hp 6-speed Sears Craftsman 42-in. lawn tractor.
What
>can I do
>to it that would give me an unfair advantage? How
about racing fuel?
>Nitro?
>NOx? Straight exhaust? Drop the mower
attachment? Gear change? A
>smaller
>rear sprocket would give
me a higher top end, right? I probably
>won't have
>time to make
changes before a race, because it sounds like a
>spur-of-the-moment
activity, so it's gonna have to be a five-minute
>mod
>(like
pouring in a can of nitro, or something). I don't think
>handling
or
>brakes will be a problem -- I just gotta go for top end. Any
ideas?
>
>I still gotta mow the lawn with it, but I'd like to whup
up on the
>neighbors when the time comes. Be nice to pull wheelies with
it, too.
>
>Rich/old poop
>94 VR4
>92 Eagle Talon
TSi
>99 (?) Craftsman Turbo-Cool
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Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 11:13:47
-0500
From: "Furman, Russell" <
RFurman2@MassMutual.com>
Subject:
RE: Team3S: Off topic -- lawnmower racing
You guys scare me.......
But hey I don't own a house yet so maybe I am just
missing the joys of being
a home owner....... Then again maybe not :p
>
-----Original Message-----
> From: ek2mfg
[SMTP:ek2mfg@foxinternet.com]
> Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 11:10
AM
> To:
merritt@cedar-rapids.net;
3sracers@speedtoys.com;
>
Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Off topic -- lawnmower racing
>
> Drop a
smaller tooth sprocket in the rear and mow in a lower gear...I
> could
help you with the sprocket if you need one for a minimal
> fee.....loose
the mower attachment....keep the fuel stuff to the
> norm...you want this
thing to last...not have bragging rights for the
> big summer win. Play
with the high limit rpm stop on the carb...1/2
> turn could mean 1 mower
lenghth....put on that "big gulp" air flow
> thing you put together for
your 3S for a cold air intake.....or even
> better...put airplane props on
the mower deck to lighten the weight
> of the mower.....like a hover craft
:)
>
> Most importantly, and this is an absolute must....install a
cup
> holder. Nobody is going to care about the fastest mower when you
can
> "cruise" in style and pound a 20 Oz. in one hand and drive in
the
> other.......I have many gouges in my fence from one arming the
turn
> with a beer.....never spill the beer......reinstall a board or
two
> but never spill beer.
>
> bobk.
>
> ----
Original Message ----
> From:
merritt@cedar-rapids.net> To:
3sracers@speedtoys.com,
Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Off topic -- lawnmower racing
> Date: Fri, 21 Dec
2001 10:01:55 -0600
>
> >I know this is off topic, but I just
gotta share this with you....
> >I figure some of you will appreciate
it.
> >
> >We moved into a new house recently, and attended
our first
> >neighborhood
> >party last night.
>
>
> >Turns out they like to quaff a few beers on a summer night,
roll out
> >the
> >lawn tractors, and race. We live on a
U-shaped street with a big
> >pond in
> >the center, and a
lap around (on the street) is about 3/4 of a mile.
> >
> >I
have a 15.5 hp 6-speed Sears Craftsman 42-in. lawn tractor. What
>
>can I do
> >to it that would give me an unfair advantage? How about
racing fuel?
> >Nitro?
> >NOx? Straight exhaust? Drop the
mower attachment? Gear change? A
> >smaller
> >rear
sprocket would give me a higher top end, right? I probably
> >won't
have
> >time to make changes before a race, because it sounds like
a
> >spur-of-the-moment activity, so it's gonna have to be a
five-minute
> >mod
> >(like pouring in a can of nitro, or
something). I don't think
> >handling or
> >brakes will be a
problem -- I just gotta go for top end. Any ideas?
> >
>
>I still gotta mow the lawn with it, but I'd like to whup up on the
>
>neighbors when the time comes. Be nice to pull wheelies with it,
too.
> >
> >Rich/old poop
> >94 VR4
> >92
Eagle Talon TSi
> >99 (?) Craftsman Turbo-Cool
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Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 11:04:23
-0500
From: "Stewart, Clay" <
cdstewar@UU.NET>
Subject: RE: Team3S:
Off topic -- lawnmower racing
Take Peter's advice seriously, I have a
relative paralyzed from the neck
down from flipping backwards on an
overpowered rider. Also check out
http://www.letsmow.com/ .
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Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 11:08:30
-0600
From: Merritt <
merritt@cedar-rapids.net>
Subject:
Team3S: Striking an off-topic nerve
Boy, did I strike a nerve with the
off-topic on lawnmower racing! Responses
continue to pour in.
Must be
a slow news day out there or something.
Anyway, thanks to everyone who
responded (and who will yet respond) both on
list and off list. I am saving
them all in a special folder, and will
definitely do some of the mods. I
especially liked the advice about
watching out for wheelies -- Never
thought of putting a wheelie bar on a
tractor! -- and not humiliating my new
neighbors. OTOH, further research
into the situation reveals that some of my
neighbors take this very
seriously, and have special-built tractors just for
this purpose. Man, what
a neighborhood!
Keep those responses coming.
To keep from annoying the listkeepers with too
much off-topic traffic, please
send lawnmower racing advice to me off list
at
merritt@cedar-rapids.netRich
Craftsman
Turbo-Cool 6 speed
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