Team3S: 3000GT & Stealth Wednesday, December 19 2001 Volume 01 : Number 703




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Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 08:34:59 -0500
From: "Furman, Russell" <RFurman2@MassMutual.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Idea for cheaper way to run 720CC injectors?

Hey Dave if that is before the turbos that's a little hot..... you really do
not want to be over 850C.   If that is after the turbo that is WAY to hot
and you may want to do a compression test.  Turbos are good for pulling
about 200C out of egts when comparing pre turbo and post turbo

> -----Original Message-----
> From: bdtrent [SMTP:bdtrent@netzero.net]
> Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 5:38 PM
> To: Team 3S
> Subject: Re: Team3S: Idea for cheaper way to run 720CC injectors?
>
>  I was running 18psi at my last open track
> event but the water temp was normal and the EGT's were peaking around 870C
> down the front straight.  I havn't got a datalogger yet, but that will
> hopefully change by the end of next week.
>
> Regards,
> DaveT/92TT

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Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 12:39:25 -0500
From: "Jeff VanOrsdal" <jeffv@1nce.com>
Subject: Team3S: heel/toe shifting. Is the pedal layout poor or is it me?

Maybe this is technical, maybe it isn't.  But I'll try anyway.  Lately, I've
been trying to get the hang of heel toe shifting when I'm slowing down or
coming up on corners.  I'm mainly just trying to smooth things out and find
a good position for my foot right now.  But it just doesn't seem possible.
My gas pedal is very low compared to my clutch and brake, and even with the
brake all the way in I still have a hard time getting my heel onto the gas
pedal.  I have some generic metal pedal covers with seem to help a little,
but it's still a pain. I don't have unusually large feet (size 10 sneakers),
so what's the deal?  Is it me?  Can my gas pedal be adjusted?  Or is the
pedal layout on our cars just poor to begin with?  Any input would be
appreciated.

Jeff VanOrsdal
1991 Stealth ESX Twin Turbo
jeffv@1nce.com

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Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 12:41:42 -0800
From: "Pete" <pbozanich@hotmail.com>
Subject: Team3S: Down Pipes and Boost Controllers

I have a 91VR4. It has a K&N filter and Borla exhaust. I want to install a
down pipe and boost controller. Ive done some research on the controller.
Ive narrowed it down to two the Blitz SBCID and the Greddy Profec B. Im
leaning towards the Blitz because of the function and appearance. The down
pipe Im not so sure on. I believe it has to help the performance, but which
one? Does anybody have any opinions on either one?
Regards,                            Pete

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Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 12:43:53 -0800
From: "Jamie Marzonie" <jsmarzonie@hotmail.com>
Subject: Team3S: 91 Stealth R/T TT speaker size?

OK... so nobody seems to have ANY good information on what size speakers can
fit into a 91 stealth TT.  4 speakers... 2 in the doors, 2 on the rear
pillar.  Fronts may be able to take a small 6 1/2, but look like 5 1/4, the
rears seem to be 4x6.

Lay it on me fellas... what have you guys found to work? (BTW... I have been
too lazy to measure the cutouts so leave that part out =)  )

Jamie

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Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 16:10:29 -0500
From: "Kevin Schappell" <kevin@schappell.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Down Pipes and Boost Controllers

I do not have an opinion on the Boost Controllers besides to say, have you
looked at a good manual boost controller?  I hate to see someone throw good
money out the window for something they don't need.  As for the downpipe,
Stillen recently dropped their prices and there DP has a flex section
built-in which the ATR does not.  I also think the Stillen completely
eliminates the front Pre-Cat which is a plus.  No matter what you do, gut
the pre-cats, it's worth the effort.

Kevin Schappell
http://kevin.schappell.com

  Does anybody have any opinions on either one?
> Regards,                            Pete

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Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 13:59:54 -0800
From: "Gross, Erik" <erik.gross@intel.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: 91 Stealth R/T TT speaker size?

If you have the Infinity system, then you can fit 6.5s in the front and 6x9s
in the rear.  I know this to be true for at least one '91TT that  I got
parts from. 

In the doors, I've put Boston Acoustics 6 1/2" and MB Quart 6 1/2" speakers
with no problems.  My personal preference in this car is the MB Quart.  In
the rears, you can put 6x9" speakers, but I prefer to put a 6 1/2" set of
separates (woofer, tweeter) on a 6x9-shaped mounting board.

- --Erik
'95 VR-4

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Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 14:04:30 -0800
From: "Gross, Erik" <erik.gross@intel.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Down Pipes and Boost Controllers

> The down pipe Im not so sure on. I believe it has to
> help the performance, but which one? Does anybody
> have any opinions on either one?

Other than a minor fitment issue (which I believe is unique to the 2G cars),
I'm very happy with my Stillen DP.  Very noticeable difference, and yes it
does replace the front pre-cat and the main cat.  Also, as Kevin said, it
has a flex section, which eases stress on the engine/exhaust parts when the
engine rocks slightly during use.

- --Erik

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Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 14:42:22 -0800 (PST)
From: Jeff Lucius <stealthman92@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: 91 Stealth R/T TT speaker size?

Some speaker info (pics, measurements, removal):
http://www.geocities.com/lutransys/jlucius6/j6-2-speakers.htm

Some speaker install tips (nothing high tech or fancy):
http://www.geocities.com/lutransys/jlucius8/j8-2-speakertips.htm

Jeff Lucius, www.stealth316.com

- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Jamie Marzonie" <jsmarzonie@hotmail.com>
To: <Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 1:43 PM
Subject: Team3S: 91 Stealth R/T TT speaker size?
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Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 17:40:29 -0500
From: "Kraig Delaney" <stealthmode91@hotmail.com>
Subject: Team3S: Engine hestitating

Car is a 1991 Stealth DOHC RT with 44k Miles on it.  Car was hestitating
on acceleration and if you put the heat on, it would seem that the motor
would bog.  We replaced the spark plugs, spark plug wires, coil pack and
have the power transitor on order.  This car doesn't have a EGR valve,
should we change the oxygen sensor.  Any help would be appreciated.

PS  The engine check light stays on.

Thanks

Kraig Delaney
1991 Stealth DOHC RT

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Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 15:15:34 -0600
From: Merritt <merritt@cedar-rapids.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Down Pipes and Boost Controllers

I like my Stillen. It replaces the front cat and the main cat, and has a
flex section. I'm still running the rear precat, so I can put the car back
to stock/legal just by replacing parts.
Rich/94 VR4

>pipe Im not so sure on. I believe it has to help the performance, but which
>one? Does anybody have any opinions on either one?

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Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 16:46:33 -0800
From: ARMIN MEIER <guetch@shaw.ca>
Subject: Team3S: Re: team3s:Heel /Toe shifting

Jeff,

Seems to me you should use the toe to push the gas pedal and use the heel to
do the breaking. This works great for a gas boost in neutral while own down
shifting.

Armin

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Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 16:54:30 -0800
From: ARMIN MEIER <guetch@shaw.ca>
Subject: FW: Team3S: heel/toe shifting. Is the pedal layout poor or is it me?

- -----Original Message-----
From: owner-team3s@team3s.com [mailto:owner-team3s@team3s.com]On Behalf
Of Jeff VanOrsdal
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 9:39 AM
To: Team3s Tech List
Subject: Team3S: heel/toe shifting. Is the pedal layout poor or is it
me?

Maybe this is technical, maybe it isn't.  But I'll try anyway.  Lately, I've
been trying to get the hang of heel toe shifting when I'm slowing down or
coming up on corners.  I'm mainly just trying to smooth things out and find
a good position for my foot right now.  But it just doesn't seem possible.
My gas pedal is very low compared to my clutch and brake, and even with the
brake all the way in I still have a hard time getting my heel onto the gas
pedal.  I have some generic metal pedal covers with seem to help a little,
but it's still a pain. I don't have unusually large feet (size 10 sneakers),
so what's the deal?  Is it me?  Can my gas pedal be adjusted?  Or is the
pedal layout on our cars just poor to begin with?  Any input would be
appreciated.

Jeff VanOrsdal
1991 Stealth ESX Twin Turbo
jeffv@1nce.com

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Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 21:46:08 -0500
From: "Dennis and Anita Moore" <stealth@quixnet.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S: 91 Stealth R/T TT speaker size?

Door: 6-1/2
Rear: 6x9

The following website has tons more info on stereo options for our cars,
including replacing the dash speakers.

http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Downs/9907/stereo.html

Dennis

- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Jamie Marzonie" <jsmarzonie@hotmail.com>
To: <Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 3:43 PM
Subject: Team3S: 91 Stealth R/T TT speaker size?

OK... so nobody seems to have ANY good information on what size speakers can
fit into a 91 stealth TT.  4 speakers... 2 in the doors, 2 on the rear
pillar.  Fronts may be able to take a small 6 1/2, but look like 5 1/4, the
rears seem to be 4x6.

Lay it on me fellas... what have you guys found to work? (BTW... I have been
too lazy to measure the cutouts so leave that part out =)  )

Jamie

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Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 20:29:00 -0800 (PST)
From: John Christian <jczoom_619@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: FW: Team3S: heel/toe shifting. Is the pedal layout poor or is it me?

Hi all,

Nah, it's not you or the TT.  It's not really
HEEL/TOE.  It's more like using your heel for an
anchor and the rest of your foot stratles the gas &
brake pedals.

Try this.  Sit in a chair with both feet on the floor.
 Keeping your right foot heel on the floor, raise your
toes until all but your heel is off the floor. 

Now with your right hand push your right knee toward
your left knee.  See how your right foot rotates with
the ball of your foot closest to the floor.  Imagine
the ball of your foot being on the right most portion
of the brake pedal.  That's how you apply brakes. 

When you need to 'blip' the throttle, keep your heel
on the floor as a pivot, keep the ball on the brake
and rotate the right part of your foot onto the left
portion of the gas.

Yes, it does take some practice, but if you want to be
smooth on road courses or autocross, its worth the
practice.

Don't try it with thick-soled-steel toed work shoes.
Drivers shoes are thin, flexable and provide some fire
protection too.

Depending on the size of your foot, your may have to
have your foot placed \ rather than |.

When your are braking hard, the brake pedal can go
down pretty far, so try not to over rev the engine
when you 'blip'.

Be of good cheer,
John

- --- ARMIN MEIER <guetch@shaw.ca> wrote:
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-team3s@team3s.com
> [mailto:owner-team3s@team3s.com]On Behalf
> Of Jeff VanOrsdal
> Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 9:39 AM
> To: Team3s Tech List
> Subject: Team3S: heel/toe shifting. Is the pedal
> layout poor or is it
> me?
>
>
> Maybe this is technical, maybe it isn't.  But I'll
> try anyway.  Lately, I've
> been trying to get the hang of heel toe shifting
> when I'm slowing down or
> coming up on corners.  I'm mainly just trying to
> smooth things out and find
> a good position for my foot right now.  But it just
> doesn't seem possible.
> My gas pedal is very low compared to my clutch and
> brake, and even with the
> brake all the way in I still have a hard time
> getting my heel onto the gas
> pedal.  I have some generic metal pedal covers with
> seem to help a little,
> but it's still a pain. I don't have unusually large
> feet (size 10 sneakers),
> so what's the deal?  Is it me?  Can my gas pedal be
> adjusted?  Or is the
> pedal layout on our cars just poor to begin with?
> Any input would be
> appreciated.
>
> Jeff VanOrsdal
> 1991 Stealth ESX Twin Turbo
> jeffv@1nce.com

=====
Please respond to jczoom@iname.com
'93 TT with Porsche brakes and Supra TT rotors
12.4@109MPH  5/97 almost stock
http://www.geocities.com/motorcity/flats/4538

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Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 18:10:33 +1100
From: "Joel Singh" <joelsingh@primus.com.au>
Subject: Team3S: ISC

Can someone confirm that the Idle speed controller motor is the same in the
SOHC and the DOHC and DOHC TT engines and they r interchangeable.

thanks in advance,
Joel.

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Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 18:13:48 +1100
From: "Joel Singh" <joelsingh@primus.com.au>
Subject: Team3S: GEARBOX.

Theres some sort of grinding noise coming from the gearbox when started
cold, it goes away when the clutch is pressed and when engine gets warm.

Any ideas what it could be?

Joel.
GTO Twin turbo.

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Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 09:25:37 -0600
From: "Willis, Charles E." <cewillis@TexasChildrensHospital.org>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Re: team3s:Heel /Toe shifting

Armin,

That explanation is wrong.  Classic heel-toe was done with the "toe",
actually ball of the foot, doing the braking and the heel doing the gas.
Nowadays, heel-toe is really more like "side of the foot/ball of the foot"
with the ball of the foot under the Great Toe doing the braking on the right
side of the brake pedal and the right side of the foot rolled over to the
right to push the gas pedal.

Chuck Willis

> -----Original Message-----
> From: ARMIN MEIER [SMTP:guetch@shaw.ca]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 6:47 PM
> To: STEALTH
> Subject: Team3S: Re: team3s:Heel /Toe shifting
>
> Jeff,
>
> Seems to me you should use the toe to push the gas pedal and use the heel
> to
> do the breaking. This works great for a gas boost in neutral while own
> down
> shifting.
>
> Armin

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