Team3S: 3000GT & Stealth Sunday, December 16
2001 Volume 01 : Number
701
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Date:
Sat, 15 Dec 2001 19:35:36 -0600
From: "Todd D.Shelton" <
tds@brightok.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S:
94-95 Datalogging
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From: Joe Kenwabikise
<
jdk88888@www.speedtoys.com>
To:
Team3S Mailing List (E-mail) <
team3s@stealth-3000gt.st>
Date:
Thursday, December 13, 2001 7:13 PM
Subject: Re: Team3S: 94-95
Datalogging
>Speaking of datalogging, here's something that might
concern some of you
>from Todd Day (creator of the TMO Datalogger), posted
on the DSM Digest:
>
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Just
so we know - PPT (Precision Performance Tuning) has issued
a response
to Todd Day. I think it's always good to hear the entire story
instead
of just one side:
From pptracing.com:
This is in response to Todd
Day posting accusations about PPT to the DSM
Email List.
I posted this
here, because Im sure it will be edited out of the mail list
and PPT has the
right to a response...
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First and
foremost the cables we manufacture are nothing like the TMO
cable..
If you
ever held one in your hand you would know the difference.
They don't look
the same.
They don't hook up the same.
and the components are not the
same.
The only way in which they are alike is the functionality, but
there are AT
LEAST a half dozen chips on the market that do exactly the same
thing.
As far as the software goes, PPT sells and endorses the
TUNERSTEIN
(
www.tunerstein.com)
software.
PPT has never copied or distributed TMO software for anyone, or
for any
reason. We do not condone that in the least.
TMO can claim rights
to the Software.... the technology for the cables it
can not....
Todd
Day has contacted us (under fake accounts) to see if we would give away
the
TMO software. What ever those accounts were, he got the same response
that
everyone else who asks that question gets.. " NO "
The install picture on
the web site... Your right that is a picture from the
TMO install pages. I
will be HAPPY to change it for you.
Granted you have done a FANTASTIC job
with DSM.ORG and I for one have gained
alot of knowledge from it. But, on the
other side of that coin I can say
that I have personally contacted you on
more then one occasion to offer my
help with the DSM Member Database... (
That can now be found at
www.dsmpower.org btw)
In ending let me
say that I have never had any personal issues with Mr. Day,
However I won't
allow PPT to be falsely accused, especially for something
that I personally
put allot of time into.
Mr. Day needs to take the time to get his facts
straight before publicly
offending other people or organizations, and the DSM
Digest should not be
used as a personal sounding board. He based his comments
off of hearsay,
second hand knowledge and assumptions. He NEVER contacted PPT
or myself
(from a real email account) inquiring about our products, software
or
practices. That would have been the RIGHT thing to do!!!!!
Jack
Wilburn
aka Boostable
www.pptracing.com***
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Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2001 21:05:40
-0800
From: "Andrew D. Woll" <
awoll1@pacbell.net>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: I think i need a new battery
Noting your car is a 93 I would
suggest that before replacing the battery
you clean all the terminals to the
present battery as well as wire brush all
grounds. It very well may be your
battery, but if it is the connections,
then replacing the battery won't cure
the problems.
Andy
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Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2001 14:16:33
-0500
From: "bdtrent" <
bdtrent@netzero.net>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: Is HKS no good?
A number of years ago, I bought a number of
items from HKS including a cat
back system for me Z TT. The overpriced
silver painted steel cat back
system came with a sizable dent in one of the
mufflers. I asked that it be
replaced, but I was told that HKS refused
to take it back claiming that it
would have no impact on it's function.
From that day on I a recognized HKS
as a company with no interest in costumer
service or perception. Back then
there was little competition for this
arrogant company. Fortunately, I
found Apex'i offered better
engineering at a fair price. Sorry if I've
offended any dedicated HKS
fans, but this was my own experience.
Regards,
DaveT/92TT
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From: "Philip V. Glazatov" <
gphilip@umich.edu>
To: <
Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>; <
stealth@starnet.net>
Sent: Saturday,
December 15, 2001 2:41 PM
Subject: Team3S: Is HKS no good?
Hi
all,
I have been browsing the internet extensively for the last month in
search
for quality performance products four our cars. Today something
clicked in
my head and I came to a conclusion that HKS is a company that I
should stay
away from or be very careful with. Here is why:
http://www.geocities.com/lutransys/jlucius2/j2-2-fuelpumpguide.htm(HKS
$800 premium high-flow fuel pump which pumps less than a $200 Denso)
http://www.gtrowner.com/induction.html(HKS
green foam Mega Flow air filters have the same pressure drop as other
filters
but they do not filter dirt)
Their $600+ electronic boost controllers,
gauges, and intercoolers are
overpriced for the features that they
provide.
Are there any products at all that this company makes
well?
Philip
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Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2001 19:24:26
-0600
From: "Jannusch, Matt" <
mjannusch@marketwatch.com>
Subject:
RE: Team3S: Is HKS no good?
> Their $600+ electronic boost
controllers, gauges, and
> intercoolers are overpriced for the features
that
> they provide.
What features are you looking for in a boost
controller that the HKS EVC IV
doesn't do? Per-gear boost control is
about the only thing I can think of.
Their peak-hold/replay gauges are kinda
nice. The intercoolers are a better
design than the stock
ones.
Sure, there are other companies making competing products - which
in most
cases are better in some respects than the HKS ones - and almost
always less
expensive.
> Are there any products at all that this
company makes well?
HKS VPC has a pretty loyal following.
-
-Matt
'95 3000GT Spyder VR4
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Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2001 22:22:30
-0600
From: "Philip V. Glazatov" <
gphilip@umich.edu>
Subject: RE:
Team3S: Is HKS no good?
I am looking for RPM-based boost adjustment. You
could have a higher boost
at higher RPM without knock. Apexi has that
feature in their AVC-R. To get
that from HKS you need to buy their EVC PRO
for $1590.00 MSRP.
I forgot that they make the VPC. But it has a limited
adjustability and
people still have to buy Apexi S-AFC to make it work
properly. But as I
wrote yesterday, if you have an AFC, you could
become a little creative,
save $1000+ and run your favorite 720 cc injectors
with a stock MAS.
Philip
At 07:24 PM 12/16/01, Jannusch, Matt
wrote:
> > Their $600+ electronic boost controllers, gauges,
and
> > intercoolers are overpriced for the features that
> >
they provide.
>
>What features are you looking for in a boost
controller that the HKS EVC IV
>doesn't do? Per-gear boost control
is about the only thing I can think of.
>Their peak-hold/replay gauges are
kinda nice. The intercoolers are a better
>design than the stock
ones.
>
>Sure, there are other companies making competing products -
which in most
>cases are better in some respects than the HKS ones - and
almost always less
>expensive.
>
> > Are there any products
at all that this company makes well?
>
>HKS VPC has a pretty loyal
following.
>
>-Matt
>'95 3000GT Spyder VR4
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