Team3S: 3000GT & Stealth Thursday, November 22 2001
Volume 01 : Number
681
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Date:
Wed, 21 Nov 2001 14:04:32 -0500
From: "Zobel, Kurt" <
KURT.ZOBEL@ca.com>
Subject: RE:
Team3S: RE: Forced air to rotors, marine bilge blower
Here's a link to
one supplier, the H20 pvc pipe looking are the one's you want. The others
are much more heavy duty, but do not flow more air, and are bigger, costlier,
etc. great for a boat, not for racing.
http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/commerce/command/CategoryDisplay?cgmenbr=201&cgrfnbr=563&outlet=
These
are 3in or 4in by about 8in long, with weather resistant motor leads. These
could be plumbed 'in-line' after the airbox, or into the air box, whichever
works for your application.
These could be directly controled with a brake
switch, or other suitable higher amp switch or relay. The one I have on my NT is
an add-on to my Leafblower. I only use it at the track, so just hook the
wires straight to the battery when I am ready to go out. It's that easy to test
it out and see what it buys you.
- -----Original Message-----
From:
Geoff Mohler [mailto:gemohler@www.speedtoys.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November
21, 2001 11:05 AM
To: Zobel, Kurt
Cc: Furman, Russell; 'Merritt'; 'Team
3S'
Subject: RE: Team3S: RE: Forced air to rotors, marine bilge
blower
How large is this bilge lower?
- ---
Geoff
Mohler
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Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 13:26:00
-0600
From: Merritt <
merritt@cedar-rapids.net>
Subject:
RE: Team3S: Re: Forced air to rotors
I can only PRAY that they'll work
that good!!
Rich
At 11:51 AM 11/21/01 -0600, Willis, Charles E.
wrote:
>It CAN hurt, if your brake pads require a high minimum operating
temperature
>and your blowers keep the pads below that temp. That's
why Hawk Blue pads
>chunk so bad when you use them on the street - you
can't maintain the
>minimum operating temperature.
>
>Chuck
Willis
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Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 13:24:53
-0600
From: Merritt <
merritt@cedar-rapids.net>
Subject:
Team3S: RE: Forced air to rotors
At 12:44 PM 11/21/01 -0500, you
wrote:
>Rich, do you remember where you got the blowers from?
I know senility is
>starting to set in at you distinguished age
;)
> This sounds like it should work and would be great
for the Appalachian
>runs planned for this summer.
Go to
www.bsrproducts.comclick on Product
Overview
click on Air Ducts
***wait forever for the pdf reader to
download**
Click NEXT at the bottom of the page.
Scroll down half the page
until you see BSR-001-BO Air Blower 3 in. hose.
There are three
possibilities in the photo.
I know that model .BO costs $22 and .B costs
$18.21.
Pretty dang cheap for blowers that push 170 or 145
cfm.
Rich
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Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 13:37:37
-0600
From: "Christopher Deutsch" <
crdeutsch@mn.mediaone.net>
Subject:
Fw: Team3S: Mechanics and the like...
- ----- Original Message
-----
From: "Christopher Deutsch" <
crdeutsch@mn.mediaone.net>
To:
"Alex Pedenko" <
apedenko@home.com>
Sent: Wednesday,
November 21, 2001 1:28 PM
Subject: Re: Team3S: Mechanics and the
like...
> It doesn't sound like they actually opened the
transmission (transaxle
> actually). Replacing the clutch won't do a
thing to fix your synchro
> problem, nor does it require the transmission
to be opened (just taken
off).
> If your warranty company let's you
send it to Kormex and have them fix it.
> Later,
>
Christopher
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From:
"Alex Pedenko" <
apedenko@home.com>
> To: <
Team3S@team3s.com>
> Sent:
Wednesday, November 21, 2001 11:48 AM
> Subject: Team3S: Mechanics and the
like...
>
>
> > Hi all,
> >
>
> After a long battle with the warranty company, I
got them to pay for
a
> > tranny rebuild. I took it to Roadmasters
Transmissions in Schaumburg, IL
> > where it was torn open, and they
put in an RPS stage II for me. Here's
my
> > problem - before they
tore it open, I was having what I thought to be
> > synchro problems.
It was hard to get the car into first if it was
moving,
> > and half
the time I couldn't get it into reverse at all w/o moving the
car
>
> an inch or so. Also the shifter always popped forward about
half-way
> > whenever I shifted into 6th. They tore it open, told me
that the clutch
I
> > had in there (I'm assuming it was factory,
@60K) was shot and that was
> > causing all of my problems. They also
told me that the main bearing on
my
> > rear drive shaft was gone,
and they replaced that (well, not the
bearing,
> > but the entire
assy). After they put it back together I have the
following
> >
problems. It feels like (I can't actually hear it most of the time) it's
>
> grinding when shifting into 2nd, and 3rd. It's still hard to get
into
1st
> if
> > the car is moving at all. Still have the
same reverse issues. The
shifter
> > still pops forward in 6th, but
now it also does that in 4th. Also the
> > shifter doesn't center
anymore. If it's pushed away (towards 5th, 6th
and
> R)
> > it
comes back just fine. If it's pulled towards the driver (1st, 2nd) it
>
> stays there.
> >
> > Could all of
this be because of a loose gear shift linkage, or do I
> need
> >
to resort to lawyer friends of mine?
> >
> > Thanks a lot for
all you input,
> >
> > Alex (w/ a '95
VR4 and non-stop tranny issues)
> >
> >
> > ***
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Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 15:13:46
-0000
From: "Sam Shelat" <
sshelat@erols.com>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: Rebuilding Porsche brakes
My Pontiac Grand Prix has thicker
ventilated rotors then on my VR-4--pretty
lame for mitsu to skimp on such an
important aspect of the car.
Sam
- -----Original Message-----
From:
Furman, Russell <
RFurman2@MassMutual.com>
To:
'Team 3S' <
Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
Date:
Wednesday, November 21, 2001 2:45 PM
Subject: RE: Team3S: Rebuilding Porsche
brakes
>Speaking of extra cooling on the rotors, you guys/gals
know that the MKIV
>rotors have vanes in them and they are installed to
spin the opposite of
the
>way most people think they
should.
>
>http://www.mkiv.com/specifications/ncf/ncf93/ncf168.jpg
bottom of this
>page.
>
>We had a lister try out switching
them around and he got about 50% less
>service life (track duty) before
warping compared to installing them
>according to the repair manual.
He uses cryoed stock rotors on the track
>and
street.
>
>
>This leads me to think that cryoed slotted rotors
turning the opposite of
>what we normally install them would possibly last
longer anyone wanna give
>it a go? I would but I just put cryoed
stock rotors on the lady, If I get
>no volunteers I will test it out
myself in the spring.
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>>
From: John Christian [SMTP:jczoom_619@yahoo.com]
>> Sent: Tuesday,
November 20, 2001 6:47 PM
>> To: Willis, Charles E.; Team
3S
>> Subject: RE: Team3S: Rebuilding Porsche
brakes
>>
>> I guess I should check my boots, but maybe the
extra
>> cooling from the Supra rotors save the
boots.
>>
>> Be of good cheer,
>>
John
>>
>>
>> --- "Willis, Charles E."
>>
<
cewillis@TexasChildrensHospital.org>
wrote:
>> > my dust boots seem to get cooked in
>> >
short order (even the ones on the calipers without
>> > powder
coating, Geoff!).
>> > If I was only driving the car on the track, I
might
>> > consider leaving them
>> > off, but our
streets still have lots of mud puddles.
>> >
>> > Chuck
Willis
>> >
>> > > -----Original
Message-----
>> > > From: bdtrent
[SMTP:bdtrent@netzero.net]
>> > > Sent: Monday, November 19, 2001
3:46 PM
>> > > To: Team 3S
>> > > Subject: Re:
Team3S: Rebuilding Porsche brakes
>> > >
>> > > I
was told by a Brembo app. engineer that dust
>> > seals can't hold
up to
>> > > track
>> > > use over a long period
of time. He suggested
>> > either removing them as
race
>> > > preped systems do and live with the
accelerated
>> > piston wear from
>> > >
contaminents, or plan on replacing them as needed.
>> >
>
>> > > Regards,
>> > >
DaveT/92TT
>>
>>
>> =====
>> Please respond
to
jczoom@iname.com>> '93 TT
with Porsche brakes and Supra TT rotors
>>
12.4@109MPH 5/97 almost stock
>>
http://www.geocities.com/motorcity/flats/4538***
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Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 12:35:51
-0800 (PST)
From: Geoff Mohler <
gemohler@www.speedtoys.com>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: Rebuilding Porsche brakes
Ok..but how wide are
they?
Size is -not- everything.
On Wed, 21 Nov 2001, Sam Shelat
wrote:
> My Pontiac Grand Prix has thicker ventilated rotors then on
my VR-4--pretty
> lame for mitsu to skimp on such an important aspect of
the car.
>
> Sam
> -----Original Message-----
> From:
Furman, Russell <
RFurman2@MassMutual.com>
>
To: 'Team 3S' <
Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
>
Date: Wednesday, November 21, 2001 2:45 PM
> Subject: RE: Team3S:
Rebuilding Porsche brakes
>
>
> >Speaking of extra
cooling on the rotors, you guys/gals know that the MKIV
> >rotors have
vanes in them and they are installed to spin the opposite of
> the
>
>way most people think they should.
> >
>
>http://www.mkiv.com/specifications/ncf/ncf93/ncf168.jpg
bottom of this
> >page.
> >
> >We had a lister try
out switching them around and he got about 50% less
> >service life
(track duty) before warping compared to installing them
> >according to
the repair manual. He uses cryoed stock rotors on the track
>
>and street.
> >
> >
> >This leads me to think
that cryoed slotted rotors turning the opposite of
> >what we normally
install them would possibly last longer anyone wanna give
> >it a
go? I would but I just put cryoed stock rotors on the lady, If I
get
> >no volunteers I will test it out myself in the spring.
>
>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: John
Christian [SMTP:jczoom_619@yahoo.com]
> >> Sent: Tuesday, November
20, 2001 6:47 PM
> >> To: Willis, Charles E.; Team 3S
>
>> Subject: RE: Team3S: Rebuilding Porsche brakes
> >>
>
>> I guess I should check my boots, but maybe the extra
> >>
cooling from the Supra rotors save the boots.
> >>
> >>
Be of good cheer,
> >> John
> >>
>
>>
> >> --- "Willis, Charles E."
> >> <
cewillis@TexasChildrensHospital.org>
wrote:
> >> > my dust boots seem to get cooked in
>
>> > short order (even the ones on the calipers without
>
>> > powder coating, Geoff!).
> >> > If I was only
driving the car on the track, I might
> >> > consider leaving
them
> >> > off, but our streets still have lots of mud
puddles.
> >> >
> >> > Chuck Willis
>
>> >
> >> > > -----Original Message-----
>
>> > > From: bdtrent [SMTP:bdtrent@netzero.net]
> >>
> > Sent: Monday, November 19, 2001 3:46 PM
> >> > > To:
Team 3S
> >> > > Subject: Re: Team3S: Rebuilding Porsche
brakes
> >> > >
> >> > > I was told by a
Brembo app. engineer that dust
> >> > seals can't hold up
to
> >> > > track
> >> > > use over a long
period of time. He suggested
> >> > either removing them as
race
> >> > > preped systems do and live with the
accelerated
> >> > piston wear from
> >> > >
contaminents, or plan on replacing them as needed.
> >> >
>
> >> > > Regards,
> >> > >
DaveT/92TT
> >> > >
> >> >
> >>
> *** Info:
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***
> >>
> >>
> >> =====
> >>
Please respond to
jczoom@iname.com>
>> '93 TT with Porsche brakes and Supra TT rotors
> >>
12.4@109MPH 5/97 almost stock
>
>>
http://www.geocities.com/motorcity/flats/4538-
---
Geoff Mohler
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Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 15:18:33
-0500
From: "Furman, Russell" <
RFurman2@MassMutual.com>
Subject:
RE: Team3S: Rebuilding Porsche brakes
the issue isn't just thicker it is
diameter.... Just look at the size diff
from 93-94
> -----Original
Message-----
> From: Sam Shelat [SMTP:sshelat@erols.com]
> Sent:
Wednesday, November 21, 2001 10:14 AM
> To: Furman, Russell; 'Team
3S'
> Subject: Re: Team3S: Rebuilding Porsche brakes
>
> My
Pontiac Grand Prix has thicker ventilated rotors then on my
>
VR-4--pretty
> lame for mitsu to skimp on such an important aspect of the
car.
>
> Sam
> -----Original Message-----
> From:
Furman, Russell <
RFurman2@MassMutual.com>
>
To: 'Team 3S' <
Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
>
Date: Wednesday, November 21, 2001 2:45 PM
> Subject: RE: Team3S:
Rebuilding Porsche brakes
>
>
> >Speaking of extra
cooling on the rotors, you guys/gals know that the MKIV
> >rotors have
vanes in them and they are installed to spin the opposite of
> the
>
>way most people think they should.
> >
>
>http://www.mkiv.com/specifications/ncf/ncf93/ncf168.jpg
bottom of this
> >page.
> >
> >We had a lister try
out switching them around and he got about 50% less
> >service life
(track duty) before warping compared to installing them
> >according to
the repair manual. He uses cryoed stock rotors on the track
>
>and street.
> >
> >
> >This leads me to think
that cryoed slotted rotors turning the opposite of
> >what we normally
install them would possibly last longer anyone wanna
> give
> >it
a go? I would but I just put cryoed stock rotors on the lady, If I
>
get
> >no volunteers I will test it out myself in the spring.
>
>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: John
Christian [SMTP:jczoom_619@yahoo.com]
> >> Sent: Tuesday, November
20, 2001 6:47 PM
> >> To: Willis, Charles E.; Team 3S
>
>> Subject: RE: Team3S: Rebuilding Porsche brakes
> >>
>
>> I guess I should check my boots, but maybe the extra
> >>
cooling from the Supra rotors save the boots.
> >>
> >>
Be of good cheer,
> >> John
> >>
>
>>
> >> --- "Willis, Charles E."
> >> <
cewillis@TexasChildrensHospital.org>
wrote:
> >> > my dust boots seem to get cooked in
>
>> > short order (even the ones on the calipers without
>
>> > powder coating, Geoff!).
> >> > If I was only
driving the car on the track, I might
> >> > consider leaving
them
> >> > off, but our streets still have lots of mud
puddles.
> >> >
> >> > Chuck Willis
>
>> >
> >> > > -----Original Message-----
>
>> > > From: bdtrent [SMTP:bdtrent@netzero.net]
> >>
> > Sent: Monday, November 19, 2001 3:46 PM
> >> > > To:
Team 3S
> >> > > Subject: Re: Team3S: Rebuilding Porsche
brakes
> >> > >
> >> > > I was told by a
Brembo app. engineer that dust
> >> > seals can't hold up
to
> >> > > track
> >> > > use over a long
period of time. He suggested
> >> > either removing them as
race
> >> > > preped systems do and live with the
accelerated
> >> > piston wear from
> >> > >
contaminents, or plan on replacing them as needed.
> >> >
>
> >> > > Regards,
> >> > >
DaveT/92TT
> >> > >
> >> >
> >>
> *** Info:
http://www.Team3S.com/Rules.htm
***
> >>
> >>
> >> =====
> >>
Please respond to
jczoom@iname.com>
>> '93 TT with Porsche brakes and Supra TT rotors
> >>
12.4@109MPH 5/97 almost stock
>
>>
http://www.geocities.com/motorcity/flats/4538***
Info:
http://www.Team3S.com/Rules.htm
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Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 15:53:12
-0500
From: "Zobel, Kurt" <
KURT.ZOBEL@ca.com>
Subject: Team3S:
RE: 3S-Racers: Any takers..initial offering.
Anyone in SoCal interested
in this as a shared project?
I don't have room right now, but if someone has
a place to work on it, I think this would be a perfect project car.
please reply by private email or phone,
Kurt Zobel
Moreno Valley,
CA 92557
909-924-6137hm
- -----Original Message-----
From: Geoff
Mohler [mailto:gemohler@www.speedtoys.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2001
10:43 AM
To:
3sracers@speedtoys.comCc:
team3s@team3s.comSubject: 3S-Racers: Any
takers..initial offering.
One very stripped and lightweight 95 black
VR4 chassis. Approx 1200lbs
lighter.
Other than non-essential
steel, it is complete on the bottom end, still
has main glass and
doors.
Block is bored and ready for build. Needs crank, and
whatever custom
pistons/rods you want.
Heads are shaved, and ready for
work
Other parts of the long block are complete as well..just in
boxes.
Comes with $1800 Tilton 2-stage racing clutch/flywheel
combination..weighs
13lbs complete.
Comes with big-red upgrade, 600 miles
on them W/new cryo rotors.
Comes with 1000Hp fuel pump
Motor mounts are
converted to solid
Comes with a good 6spd tranny with 7k on it.
Comes with
complete unboxed Alamo IC and plumbing kit..the large one.
Comes with seat
rails to fot Sparco seats..no seats included.
Asking $6k.
We -may-
finish it some day, but for $6k someone else can.
It only really needs
the motor rebuilt, or a stocker tossed in, cage, and
seats...at only 3000lbs
or so..it would just _scream_ with only a minor
turbo upgrade.
-
---
Geoff Mohler
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Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 17:45:25
-0500
From: "bdtrent" <
bdtrent@netzero.net>
Subject:
Team3S: Datalogger Request
It would seem that Technomotive is no longer
operating. I tried to order a
new Datalogger for two weeks now, but
have been unable to contact anyone at
Technomotive. Buschur is no
longer taking orders as they have a back order
that isn't getting
filled. This may seem like a strange request, but I
would love to have
one for just a day or two so I can at least find out
whats happening in my
current state of tune. Would anyone be willing to
rent me the use of
one for a few days. I will gladly send a check for the
full amount
until the cable and software are safely returned. I'm thinking
$30-40
plus shipping would help offset the initial cost to
someone.
Regards,
DaveT/92TT
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Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 15:05:53
-0800 (PST)
From: Geoff Mohler <
gemohler@www.speedtoys.com>
Subject:
Team3S: Re: Any takers..initial offering.
I forgot to add it also comes
with a Buschur silicone filled lightweight
harmonic balancer/under-drive
pulley as well.
On Wed, 21 Nov 2001, Geoff Mohler wrote:
> One
very stripped and lightweight 95 black VR4 chassis. Approx 1200lbs
>
lighter.
>
> Other than non-essential steel, it is complete on the
bottom end, still
> has main glass and doors.
>
> Block is
bored and ready for build. Needs crank, and whatever custom
>
pistons/rods you want.
> Heads are shaved, and ready for work
>
Other parts of the long block are complete as well..just in boxes.
>
> Comes with $1800 Tilton 2-stage racing clutch/flywheel
combination..weighs
> 13lbs complete.
> Comes with big-red upgrade,
600 miles on them W/new cryo rotors.
> Comes with 1000Hp fuel pump
>
Motor mounts are converted to solid
> Comes with a good 6spd tranny with
7k on it.
> Comes with complete unboxed Alamo IC and plumbing kit..the
large one.
> Comes with seat rails to fot Sparco seats..no seats
included.
>
> Asking $6k.
>
> We -may- finish it some
day, but for $6k someone else can.
>
> It only really needs the
motor rebuilt, or a stocker tossed in, cage, and
> seats...at only 3000lbs
or so..it would just _scream_ with only a minor
> turbo upgrade.
>
> Geoff Mohler
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Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 16:59:39
-0600
From: "Jannusch, Matt" <
mjannusch@marketwatch.com>
Subject:
RE: Team3S: Datalogger Request
If you have a Palm Pilot, you can use
PocketLogger (DSM version for your '92
car will work).
http://www.pocketlogger.com/?page=prod&prod=dsm-
-Matt
'95 3000GT Spyder VR4
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Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 18:43:42
EST
From:
RDO26@aol.comSubject:
Team3S: Japan CAPS?
Has anyone successfuly downloaded the program Oleg
was offering?
Ron
Japan CAPS will be in my hand after 1 week, I'll
see what they have.
>
> Interesting thing - there are 5-speed VR4 in
Europe from 94.06 till
> 96.05!!!!! The CAPS show 5 and 6 speed cars at
the same period till may
> 1996.
>
> Regards,
>
>
Oleg Reznik
>
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Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 17:26:25
-0700
From: "Will Fortenberry" <
BigWill_VR4@hotmail.com>
Subject:
Team3S: Stutter with low fuel
Hey all,
Thanks in advance for any
help/suggestions. I've been on the list for a
while just watching. I'm having
an odd problem with my 94 VR-4 (bpu). When I
get to 1/4-1/8 tank of gas, the
engine will miss very badly above 3500rpm.
It gets worse as the fuel level
gets lower. When I put gas in the car, it
immediately goes away.
In the
past, I was able to go another 90 miles or so with no problems.
Any
ideas?
Thanks,
Will
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Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 17:47:46
-0800 (PST)
From: Jeff Lucius <
stealthman92@yahoo.com>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: Datalogger Request
Dave,
Just buy the PocketLOGGER
($155) and a Palm m100 (~$100 at Target).
All the info and functionality are
the same. However, the TMO makes
prettier pictures of data afterwards than
the PL.
http://www.pocketlogger.com/Jeff
Lucius,
www.stealth316.com- ---
bdtrent <
bdtrent@netzero.net>
wrote:
> It would seem that Technomotive is no longer operating
...
<snip>
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Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 03:23:59
-0500
From: MIHAI RAICU <
mraicu@wayne.edu>
Subject: Team3S: RE:
Car idle problem
Alan,
My brother and I experience it every once
in a blue moon(on a
94 TT and a 95 VR4, but never on 93 Stealth base).
It is
exactly how you describe it. We have reported the problem to
the list, but nobody gave a satisfactory
explanation/solution.
Most people will not see the problem because they only start
the car
when it is cold (7AM and 4PM). However, if you go
somewhere where you
don't stay too long (~45 min), you may
experience a rough idle for 10
sec.
- -MIHAI-
95 Red VR4
Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 10:27:34 -0500
From: "Alan C. Sheffield" <
a92rttt@hotmail.com>
Subject:
Team3S: Car idle problem
I have an odd car idle problem. When the
car has been driven
and I leave it
for less than 2~ hours. It will not
hold idle when started. I
have to give
it extra gas to keep it going.
After 15-30 seconds it is then
fine. for the
rest of the trip. Cold
starts are fine too.
Suggestions ?
Alan
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Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 09:52:44
+0100
From: Henri Le Hir <
hlehir@lucent.com>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: RE:Car Options
>>So is there anybody out there that has a
factory alarm and no keyless
entry
>>to disprove this
theory?
I'm afraid so.
I have a 92 Stealth RT/TT, is has a working
factory alarm, and both doors
can be operated through electrical
buttons.
However...I wanted to buy some keyless remote, and before
actually placing
an order, I removed the back seat to see the keyless
electronic module (by
the back seat)
No such thing in my car...and not
even a connector on the harness.
Guess I'll have to do it
otherwise
Best
Henri
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If
your car has an electronic lock/unlock switch in the inside, most
aftermarket
car alarms will provide that functionality for you. If you don't
have
electronic locks there are other options that make use of "solenoids"
I
believe. I would first check if your doesn't already have a wireless
remote
though.
Here's my theory on checking based on owning 3 Chrysler
products: '95 Talon
(no keyless entry, no factory alarm), '96 Avenger
(keyless entry, factory
alarm), and a '94 Stealth (keyless entry, factory
alarm). After you shut
off your car, open the door and press the lock
button, now shut the door.
If a "Security" light turns on in the instrument
cluster that means you have
a factory alarm. This also means your car
probably came originally with
keyless entry
So is there anybody out
there that has a factory alarm and no keyless entry
to disprove this
theory?
Later,
Christopher
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Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 08:00:34
-0500 (EST)
From:
kimbyrd@webtv.net
(Kimberly Byrd)
Subject: Team3S: using oil
Thanks for all of the past
input. I have a little additional info. I
found out that the Mitsubishi
service dept was covering for the dealer
when the mechanic told me that it is
normal to add 1 quart of oil every
1,000 miles. Now I know why you call them
"Satan!" The car does not
smoke during normal driving, but if I allow it to
sit at idle for 3 or 4
minutes, blue smoke comes out of the tailpipes. I
called the dealer back
and he said that it was "valve seats." Do you guys buy
that? I wish that
he had told me before I bought the car. The dealer said
that it costs
about $250 to repair. Is he being honest? The car runs like a
dream, but
I want to get to the bottom of this oil consumption problem.
Thanks,
guys and Happy Thanksgiving!
Kim
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Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 10:49:52
-0500
From: "WALTER D. BEST" <
WDBO39@erols.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S:
RE:Car Options
I purchased my car new in 92 and the dealer told me there
was no keyless
entry system on the car. I also checked my sales
brochures, the first
mention of keyless entry, is in 1993 under the comfort
and convenience
section as refers to it as "Power locks w/one touch keyless
locking". And
it also not mentioned in the Authorized Mitsubishi
accessories booklet for
1992.
And of course it's not in my 1991 Dodge
or Mitsubishi sales brochures
either.
Dave Best
- -----
Original Message -----
From: "Christopher Deutsch" <
crdeutsch@mn.mediaone.net>
To:
<
team3s@stealth-3000gt.st>
Sent:
Wednesday, November 21, 2001 10:34 AM
Subject: Re: Team3S: RE:Car
Options
> If your car has an electronic lock/unlock switch in the
inside, most
> aftermarket car alarms will provide that functionality for
you. If you
don't
> have electronic locks there are other options that
make use of "solenoids"
I
> believe. I would first check if your
doesn't already have a wireless
remote
> though.
>
> Here's
my theory on checking based on owning 3 Chrysler products: '95
Talon
>
(no keyless entry, no factory alarm), '96 Avenger (keyless entry,
factory
> alarm), and a '94 Stealth (keyless entry, factory alarm).
After you shut
> off your car, open the door and press the lock button,
now shut the door.
> If a "Security" light turns on in the instrument
cluster that means you
have
> a factory alarm. This also means
your car probably came originally with
> keyless entry
>
> So
is there anybody out there that has a factory alarm and no
keyless
entry
> to disprove this theory?
>
> Later,
>
Christopher
>
> > > -----Original Message-----
> >
> From: David Allison [SMTP:daedel@mac.com]
> > > Sent: Tuesday,
November 20, 2001 6:28 PM
> > > To:
team3s@stealth-3000gt.st> >
> Subject: Re: Team3S: RE:Car Options
> > >
> > > On
that note, if the 94 base model
> > > does not come with keyless
entry, how much would a system like that
cost
> > > to
install?
> > >
> > > David
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Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 14:11:37
-0800 (PST)
From: Geoff Mohler <
gemohler@www.speedtoys.com>
Subject:
Team3S: A note for the holidays..
Team3s content before the spam: I
will be adding V*rus checking for all
incoming and outbound internet traffic
here today/tonight, so yesterday's
outbreak shouldnt happen again. The
product is Carrier Scan for Network
Attached Storage if anyone wants to check
it out.
A note for the Holidays..and how to spend it with your
car:
The NSX guys worry about Porsches
The Pantera guys worry about
Corvettes
The Ferrari guys worry about McLarens
The Mustang guys worry
about Firebirds
The Firebird guys worry about Camaros
The 300ZX guys worry
about RX7s
And here we are worrying about Ferraris.
Are we adequate?
Do we have issues with self-esteem?
Is Beethoven "better"
than Bach?
Is Ch. Haut-Brion "better" than St. Emilion?
Is
Picasso "better" than Kandinsky?
Is Macintosh "better" than Windows?
Is a
Redwood "better" than a Dutch Elm?
Is Yosemite "better" than
Yellowstone?
Is Paris "better" than New York?
Is Pininfarina "better"
than Bertone?
Is Lamborghini "better" than Ferrari?
Here are your
orders:
1. Give all that about 5 seconds thought (time's up!)
2. Shut
off the computer.
3. Go out to the garage.
4. If it doesn't run, fix
it.
5. If does run, drive it.
6. Repeat steps 3 through 5 until step 1 is
no longer possible.
Happy Holidays.
- ---
Geoff
Mohler
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