Team3S: 3000GT & Stealth Saturday, November 10 2001
Volume 01 : Number
669
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Date:
Fri, 9 Nov 2001 07:49:59 -0500
From: "Donnelly, Michael" <
DonnellM@ctc.com>
Subject: Team3S:
Electronic controlled suspension
I have been having problems with my
ECS. The dash light is flashing and the
suspension seems to be stuck in
the stiff mode. Is there a way to
deactivate it? And what can be
done other than putting in new struts?
I did have someone look at
it and said it looked OK from all the diagnostic
checks. So that
probably means that it checks out electrically then. Could
it be
possible that this is a mechanical problem that will go away by
itself?
How does the ECS work exactly, what constricts the orifice in the
shock to
stiffen the ride? And if I need it to be replaced what is the best
way
to go?
Michael Donnelly
94 stealth R/T TT
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Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2001 06:07:58
-0800 (PST)
From: Jeff Lucius <
stealthman92@yahoo.com>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: Electronic controlled suspension
Hi Michael,
I think
you need a new diagnostician for your ECS. Obviously if the
shock is stuck in
stiff or hard mode then something is wrong. Take a
look at the STIM (Stealth
Technical Information Manual) at my web
site and the Service Manuals for
explanations of function and
diagnostics.
http://www.geocities.com/lutransys/jlucius/2-stim.htmLooking
briefly at STIM page 2-17 I see that the shock is stuck in
hard mode when the
damping force changeover actuator is "abnormal".
I'm not saying this is the
problem, just suggesting that you
carefully read the manuals to get an idea
of the problem and to
better understand the functioning of the ECS
system.
If you need to replace the shock and want to use a
factory
replacement (there are no aftermarket ECS replacements for us),
I
suggest using one of the discount dealers I list on the Garage Page
at
my web site.
Good luck.
Jeff Lucius,
www.stealth316.com- ----- Original
Message -----
From: "Donnelly, Michael" <
DonnellM@ctc.com>
To: <
team3s-digest@speedracer.speedtoys.com>
Sent:
Friday, November 09, 2001 5:49 AM
Subject: Team3S: Electronic controlled
suspension
I have been having problems with my ECS. The dash light
is flashing
and the suspension seems to be stuck in the stiff mode. Is
there a
way to deactivate it? And what can be done other than putting
in new
struts?
I did have someone look at it and said it looked
OK from all the
diagnostic checks. So that probably means that it
checks out
electrically then. Could it be possible that this is a
mechanical
problem that will go away by itself? How does the ECS work
exactly,
what constricts the orifice in the shock to stiffen the ride?
And if
I need it to be replaced what is the best way to go?
Michael
Donnelly
94 stealth R/T TT
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Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2001 08:19:24
-0600
From: "Willis, Charles E." <
cewillis@TexasChildrensHospital.org>
Subject:
Team3S: Panther Plus pad update
Just received my sets of Panther Plus
pads yesterday evening via UPS.
Others who ordered them should expect them
soon.
Chuck Willis
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Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2001 08:32:36
-0600
From: "Vineet Singh \(3S\)" <
stealthtt@ecanfix.com>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: Vibration
I went through this as well, and it turned out to
be the PoopBoy's
installer that used a pnematic impact wrench, in a clockwise
sequence
(not star) to excessively/unevenly tighten the wheel after
tire
replacement. She actually bent/warped the rotor (or I did
while
braking, due to her uneven torquing), and in a day or so, I had
wheels
that vibrated the steering wheel. I took it for re-balancing
twice,
finally took it to someone else, and the checked the rotors and
found
the warp. I didn't have warped rotors before, and also didn't have
a
problem with vibration.
Pepboys had to install new rotors for free
(but I had to pay for the
parts). They also stuck a piece of gum under my
door handle, so that
was the last time I used them for repair work. This was
way back in 95
or so on my Talon BTW :)
PS: They also put 2
directional tires on backwards haha... doh! So
instead of dispersing water,
they would scoop it through the middle of
the tire, and I was able to surf my
car to school on rainy days
(hydroplane). They were angry that they had to
deal with me so much,
hence the gum, but it was their own damn
fault.
Vinny Singh -
http://www.manualcd.com/ - Service Manuals
on CD for your DSM or 3/S!
> Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2001 07:48:50
EST
> From:
StealthCT@aol.com> Subject: Team3S:
Vibration
>
> At about 60MPH I get a vibration that can be seen and
felt at the
streering wheel. I recently got new tires and rims however
I have had
three different shops verify that all four wheels are
balanced
properly. I even had the weights removed and replace just to
insure
that they were not causing the problem. Any recommendations
or
suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Regards
Charles
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Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2001 08:23:28
-0800 (PST)
From: Jeff Lucius <
stealthman92@yahoo.com>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: Differential oil question.
Stick with GL-5 in the rear diff
(is there a GL-6?). Mitsu recommends
SAE 90, 85W-90, or 80W-90 if the temp is
above -10ºF - that pretty
much covers 99.999% of driving situations in the
conterminous United
States. :)
Red Line synthetic should do a good job
or consider using a BG
concentrate additive if available.
AWD
drivetrain oil change info:
http://www.geocities.com/lutransys/jlucius/2-awddrainfill.htmJeff
Lucius,
www.stealth316.com-
----- Original Message -----
From: <
NETM1NDER@aol.com>
To: <
stealth@starnet.net>; <
team3s@stealth-3000gt.st>
Sent:
Friday, November 09, 2001 5:37 AM
Subject: Team3S: Differential oil
question.
Is there a better oil to use than the factory recommended oil
GL-5
80W-90?
Chris 95VR4
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Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2001 18:24:29
+0200
From: "Oleg Reznik" <
oleg@3000gt.lv>
Subject: Team3S: EU
caps
Hello guys,
You can download EURO CAPS from my computer
through
www.bearshare.com Just
instal this programm and search file CAPS1.zip
CAPS will work only if you
have US version instaled.
Regards,
Oleg Reznik
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Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2001 11:35:56
-0500
From: "Jon" <
jon@ncfpc.com>
Subject: Team3S:
Overheating out of nowhere!
Hey guys :(
I was
driving my 91' 3000GT VR4 Twin Turbo (78k miles) home from a store
the other
weekend, and I noticed some faint steam coming from my hood. It
was
very light, and since it was raining, I didn't think too much of it.
My
temperature gauge was normal. All of a sudden it shot up to the red,
and I
pulled over to see steam coming from everywhere under the hood, mostly
from
the intercooler. Coolant levels checked, oil levels check.. I
started it a
couple days ago to bring it to the gas station, and to see the
status, and
sure enough the temp went up after about 5 minutes, so I just
parked it.
Any idea what could be causing the sudden overheat? It had
been running
perfect previous to the incident.
Thanks guys :-\
--
Jon
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Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2001 10:50:36
-0600
From: "cody" <
overclck@starband.net>
Subject:
RE: Team3S: Overheating out of nowhere!
Something obviously failed on
you. And the first thing to check is gonna
be your thermostat. It
coulda stuck in the closed position, not
allowing sufficient coolant flow
through the radiator.
Next item to check is of course the water
pump. This is of course
harder to check.
I would rule out
a clogged radiator or such, as I can't see a car
overheating "Very quickly"
or the temperature "shot up". I would think
a clogged something would
more relate to a slow rise in temperature.
- -Cody
-
-----Original Message-----
From:
owner-team3s@team3s.com
[mailto:owner-team3s@team3s.com] On Behalf
Of Jon
Sent: Friday, November
09, 2001 10:36 AM
To:
Team3S@stealth-3000gt.stSubject:
Team3S: Overheating out of nowhere!
Hey guys :(
I was driving my 91' 3000GT VR4 Twin Turbo (78k miles) home from
a
store
the other weekend, and I noticed some faint steam coming from my
hood.
It
was very light, and since it was raining, I didn't think too much
of it.
My
temperature gauge was normal. All of a sudden it shot up
to the red,
and I
pulled over to see steam coming from everywhere under
the hood, mostly
from
the intercooler. Coolant levels checked, oil
levels check.. I started
it a
couple days ago to bring it to the gas
station, and to see the status,
and
sure enough the temp went up after
about 5 minutes, so I just parked it.
Any idea what could be causing the
sudden overheat? It had been running
perfect previous to the
incident.
Thanks guys
:-\
-- Jon
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Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2001 11:26:09
-0600
From: "Willis, Charles E." <
cewillis@TexasChildrensHospital.org>
Subject:
RE: Team3S: Overheating out of nowhere!
Check to see where the water is
really coming from - there is no water hose
on the intercooler.
If
the water is on the passenger side of the car, you probably have a
faulty
lower radiator hose. A leak there is only apparent when the car
warms up
and the thermostat opens so water flows through there under
pressure. A
common thing is a small leak where the lower hose connects
to the thermostat
housing - and you can't see this without removing the
y-pipe.
Chuck
P.S. Did you change the water pump at 60K miles with
the timing belt? If
the water is on the drivers side of the car, you
might suspect the water
pump.
> -----Original Message-----
>
From: Jon [SMTP:jon@ncfpc.com]
> Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 10:36
AM
> To:
Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
Subject: Team3S: Overheating out of nowhere!
>
> Hey guys
:(
>
> I was driving my 91' 3000GT VR4 Twin
Turbo (78k miles) home from a
> store
> the other weekend, and I
noticed some faint steam coming from my hood. It
> was very light,
and since it was raining, I didn't think too much of it.
> My
>
temperature gauge was normal. All of a sudden it shot up to the red,
and
> I
> pulled over to see steam coming from everywhere under the
hood, mostly
> from
> the intercooler. Coolant levels checked,
oil levels check.. I started it
> a
> couple days ago to bring it to
the gas station, and to see the status, and
> sure enough the temp went up
after about 5 minutes, so I just parked it.
> Any idea what could be
causing the sudden overheat? It had been running
> perfect previous
to the incident.
>
> Thanks guys
:-\
> --
Jon
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Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2001 13:20:18
-0500
From: "Michael D. Crose" <
ncsu4me@hotmail.com>
Subject:
Team3S: Transmission problems....solution?
I guess it was just a matter
of time before I started having the synchro
problems that most everyone
complains of on our transmissions. I can't
hardly get the car
back into first gear after up shifting while the
transmission is still cold
and the amount of time that I must spend between
gear changes or grind the
syncro is increasing.
I know that there have been a few very serious
attempts to get new syncros
made or purchase them from Getrag, is there
anything currently in the works?
I do not know enough about
transmissions or more specifically our
transmission to be able to spearhead
any kind of task such as getting new
parts designed and manufactured, but I
was wondering if the need/desire for
new parts is still there and if anyone
who has the knowledge is or would
consider contributing their time and
effort.
I have been looking to see if there are any transmission swaps
available but
the only cars I can think of that would have a transverse
transaxle are the
Lancer EVO and the Audi TT both of which are lighter and
less powerful.
While searching for alternatives I found a link to a
company in Chicago that
will manufacture custom gear and syncro
sets.
http://www.emco-gears.com/index.htmI
am sure this is not a cheap process, but with no new syncros being
produced
I know that we as a community will not be able to continue driving
these
wonderful cars for many years if this problem is not
remedied.
Sincerely,
Michael D. Crose
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Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2001 13:22:48
-0600
From: "Willis, Charles E." <
cewillis@TexasChildrensHospital.org>
Subject:
Team3S: RE: Fog lights on a 91
1st gen fog light if I recall is a single
sealed unit and costs around $100
or so from the dealer. You might get
one from a junkyard. It is not very
difficult to remove with a socket
set and extension or box end wrench. I
lost one a couple of years ago
to a piece of debris on the track, so now I
tape them before an
event.
Chuck Willis
> -----Original Message-----
> From:
Luckyslug@aol.com
[SMTP:Luckyslug@aol.com]
> Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 1:18 PM
>
To:
cewillis@texaschildrenshospital.org;
jon@ncfpc.com;
>
Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
Subject: Fog lights on a 91
>
> How much does a new fog light cost
and how hard is it to change out?
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Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2001 18:21:37
-0500
From: "Jeff VanOrsdal" <
jeffv@1nce.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: EU
caps
Most excellent Oleg. I'm downloading it now. I'll upload
it to my website
for faster download once I have it. What size would
the Japanese version
be? I might be able to host that one as
well.
Jeff V.
1991 Stealth ESX Twin Turbo
jeffv@1nce.com- -----Original
Message-----
From:
owner-team3s@team3s.com
[mailto:owner-team3s@team3s.com]On Behalf Of
Oleg Reznik
Sent: Friday,
November 09, 2001 11:24 AM
To: Team3S
Subject: Team3S: EU
caps
Hello guys,
You can download EURO CAPS from my computer
through
www.bearshare.comJust
instal this programm and search file CAPS1.zip
CAPS will work only if you
have US version instaled.
Regards,
Oleg Reznik
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Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 13:07:56
+1300
From: "Steve Cooper" <
scooper@paradise.net.nz>
Subject:
Team3S: Top Speed
Hi
Here's a good one for the
experts, what top speed can we expect from our =
modified cars.The
reason I am asking is because next weekend I am going =
on an
organised speed run, about 2km along an airport runway with both a
=
police radar and police laser at the end to measure top speed. Last
=
years event was won by a Porsche 930 at 268k, next was a Nissan
Skyline =
GTR at 256k. There will be all of Japans best at this years
event. I'm =
sure that my car should be faster than that but I don't
even know what =
it will do in 4th never mind 5th.What would you
experts expect.
Mods, 13g turbos
550
injectors
ARC2
Boost controller etc
Best 1/4
12.009
Steve
www://.nzgto.cjb.net
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Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2001 19:10:34
-0700
From: "Thomas Jeys" <
tj@jeys.net>
Subject: Team3S: HKS Super Mega
Flow Intake System
Probly a stupid question but... Is there anyway to
install a HKS Super Mega
Flow intake system on our cars without using the HKS
VPC (possibly another
brand VPC)? Thanks!!
- -T.J. 1992 3000GT
VR-4
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Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2001 20:56:37
-0600
From: "john adams" <
johnqadamsiii@yahoo.com>
Subject:
Team3S: brakes
Greetings,
Lately I've had trouble with the brakes
on my 93 Stealth.
The pedal (usually) isn't returning back to position and I
have
to nudge it with my foot for it to fall back to place. I figured
it
was the brake booster spring, which if so I understand the
entire
booster will need to be replaced ($520@ westbroad
mitsu w/ 20% discount). Any
advice? And should I try to find
it used...(apparently there are 7 different
number variations that
came up for the 3000/stealth).
thanks,
john
93 stealth es
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Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2001 22:11:06
-0500
From: "bdtrent" <
bdtrent@netzero.net>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: Electronic controlled suspension
In addition to what Jeff
indicated. This condition 9 times out of 10, is
cased by a wire in one
of the front strut covers (the rubber covers above
each of the struts in the
engine bay) pulling loose. I would have expected
that problem to show
up on the diagnostic but its hard to say if the person
inspecting your car
had a good understanding of what he/she was looking
for.
Regards,
DaveT/92TT
- ----- Original Message
-----
From: "Jeff Lucius" <
stealthman92@yahoo.com>
To:
<
team3s-digest@speedracer.speedtoys.com>
Cc:
"Donnelly, Michael" <
DonnellM@ctc.com>
Sent: Friday,
November 09, 2001 9:07 AM
Subject: Re: Team3S: Electronic controlled
suspension
Hi Michael,
I think you need a new diagnostician
for your ECS. Obviously if the
shock is stuck in stiff or hard mode then
something is wrong. Take a
look at the STIM (Stealth Technical Information
Manual) at my web
site and the Service Manuals for explanations of function
and
diagnostics.
http://www.geocities.com/lutransys/jlucius/2-stim.htmLooking
briefly at STIM page 2-17 I see that the shock is stuck in
hard mode when the
damping force changeover actuator is "abnormal".
I'm not saying this is the
problem, just suggesting that you
carefully read the manuals to get an idea
of the problem and to
better understand the functioning of the ECS
system.
If you need to replace the shock and want to use a
factory
replacement (there are no aftermarket ECS replacements for us),
I
suggest using one of the discount dealers I list on the Garage Page
at
my web site.
Good luck.
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Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 00:09:28
-0500
From: "Darren Schilberg" <
dschilberg@pobox.com>
Subject: RE:
Team3S: Top Speed
Top speed has lots to do with more than mods.
Wide tires cause more
drag on the road surface. Wide front ends and
tall radiator grills zap
efficiency. Remember the Porsche is a flat 4
or a flat 6 and the
Skyline is an inline 6. I don't think we will ever
be a force to run
against cars like that for something like this. Our
4,000 pounds are
much too hard to get going easily.
I believe stock
top speed is in 5th gear (for 6th gear folks) and have
heard of moderate top
speeds reaching 193 mph (305 kmh) but I don't know
what it entailed and most
likely took more than 2 miles to reach that
speed. Good luck
regardless. Just be safe.
Skinnier tires will help. Closing
all the windows will help. Shifting
at max torque levels will
help. Will pictures, video, write-ups be
available afterwards?
-
--Flash!
1995 VR-4
- -----Original Message-----
From: Steve
Cooper
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 19:08
Here's a good one
for the experts, what top speed can we expect from our
=
modified
cars.The reason I am asking is because next weekend I am
going
=
on an organised speed run, about 2km along an airport runway with
both
a =
police radar and police laser at the end to measure top
speed. Last =
years event was won by a Porsche 930 at 268k, next
was a Nissan
Skyline =
GTR at 256k. There will be all of Japans best
at this years event. I'm
=
sure that my car should be faster than
that but I don't even know what
=
it will do in 4th never mind
5th.What would you experts expect.
Mods, 13g turbos
550
injectors
ARC2
Boost controller etc
Best 1/4
12.009
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Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 00:11:42
-0500
From: "Darren Schilberg" <
dschilberg@pobox.com>
Subject: RE:
Team3S: brakes
John,
Try crawling into the driver footwell and see
if you can manually adjust
the height of the pedal like the manual
says. If all of this is set
correctly then it is in another area and
yes perhaps more expensive.
- --Flash!
1995 VR-4 and Big Reds
-
-----Original Message-----
From: john adams
Sent: Friday, November 09,
2001 21:57
Lately I've had trouble with the brakes on my 93
Stealth.
The pedal (usually) isn't returning back to position and I
have
to nudge it with my foot for it to fall back to place. I figured
it
was the brake booster spring, which if so I understand the
entire
booster will need to be replaced ($520@ westbroad
mitsu w/ 20% discount). Any
advice? And should I try to find
it used...(apparently there are 7 different
number variations that
came up for the 3000/stealth).
thanks,
john
93 stealth es
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Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2001 23:24:16
-0800
From: "Ken Middaugh" <
kmiddaugh@ixpres.com>
Subject:
Team3S: 1st gen to 2nd gen VR4 engine swap
Question: is it possible
to install a 1st gen crank angle sensor (CAS) on a
2nd gen VR4
engine?
Last Saturday, I was checking out some used JSpec engines to
replace my
blown '91 VR4 motor. This engine shop in LA had 1 1st gen
and 1 2nd gen
engine. I noticed that the 2nd gen had a cover plate
where the CAS would be
installed on a 1st gen engine. I'm wondering if
I could upgrade to a 2nd
gen engine just by removing the cover plate and
installing a 1st gen CAS,
then hooking up to the stock '91 harness and
ECU?
Has anybody ever done this?
Thanks,
Ken
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Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 09:14:58
-0700
From: "Thomas Jeys" <
tj@jeys.net>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Top
Speed
Well without taking into account weight, HP, or drag (so based
simply off
gear ratios and stock tire sizes), I think I once figured out that
a first
gen toped out (redline in 5th) at 196 and a second gen toped out
(redline in
6th) at 225. So if you had all the HP in the world and took
some drastic
steps with weight reduction, I suppose that those numbers are
possible.
(RPM / 5th Gear Ratio) / Final Drive Ratio = RMP of the
wheels (RPM-o-W)
RPM-o-W * Tire circumferance = Feet per minute
(FPM)
(FPM / 5280 = Miles per minute) * 60 = Miles per
hour
assume a tire circumferance of 6.47ft
5-speed transmission;
Rear End Ratio = 3.97:1
1st Gear 3.07
2nd
Gear 1.74
3rd Gear
1.10
4th Gear 0.82
5th
Gear 0.66
Redline = 7000RPM
6-speed
transmission; Rear End Ratio = 3.87:1
1st Gear
3.27
2nd Gear 1.90
3rd
Gear 1.24
4th Gear
0.92
5th Gear 0.73
6th
Gear 0.59
Redline = 7000RPM
- -T.J.
92'
3000GT VR-4
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