Team3S: 3000GT & Stealth Thursday, November 8 2001
Volume 01 : Number
667
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Date:
Wed, 7 Nov 2001 07:32:13 -0500
From: "Darren Schilberg" <
dschilberg@pobox.com>
Subject: RE:
Team3S: Viscous Coupler
My guess is that as long as all four wheels are
off the ground then
spinning the wheels will not do too much damage since the
wheels should
be able to turn. The bad part is when one side is in the
air and you
spin a wheel around a bunch or a front end is off the
ground.
Mine are fine so I don't know what the symptoms are.
However, I do have
what I am guessing is a normal sound when I start up the
car after it
has been sitting a while ... I think. For example, in the
morning
(temperature does not matter) I start the car and it can idle for
30
minutes or 0 minutes. As soon as I pull away it is about 10-30
feet
later that a sound is heard. It appears to be what I've guessed is
the
rear differential or viscous coupling engaging after the fluid
passes
through it. Almost like a sound a small motor would make when
whirring
up to speed. Any idea what this is related to or if it might
be damage
from a bonehead spinning the wheels when on jacks or is it normal
wear?
- --Flash!
1995 VR-4
- -----Original
Message-----
From: Richard
Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2001
00:59
Anyone had a viscous coupler go??? What were the sign and
symptoms? How
about a unit messed up by a bone head spinning the wheels on
the jacks?
Any info would help me diagnose a problem I am
having.
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Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 06:26:49
-0800 (PST)
From: Jeff Lucius <
stealthman92@yahoo.com>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: Viscous Coupler
I have never had a VC unit go out on me
(well, I've only owned one).
But what do you mean about spinning the
wheels on the jacks? It is
highly unlikely that if the car is on jacks and
one wheel is turned
by hand that the VC unit will be damaged. If both front
wheels are
off the ground and one is turned by hand, the other should rotate
in
the opposite direction - our open front differential - the
VCU/CD
shouldn't even turn. With only the back wheels off the ground,
I
doubt a person could spin them very fast by hand. Certainly not
enough
to harm the drivetrain - rear diff or VCU/CD. If all wheels
are off the
ground and the engine is turning them (or turned by
hand), no harm should
happen either (assuming the car stays on he
stands or lift).
Generally, the VCU/CD is damaged when front and rear driveshafts
are
turning and vastly different speeds. I don't know what that
speed
would be or how long it would have to happen, but would guess
that
maybe 10-20 mph plus would do it over a short distance and less
speed
difference (tire size mismtach) over a long distance. Towing the
AWD
with one set of wheels on the ground should do it.
More info on
our AWD system:
http://www.geocities.com/lutransys/jlucius/2-AWD.htmJeff
Lucius,
www.stealth316.com-
----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard" <
radanc@home.com>
Cc: "Team3S" <
Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
Sent:
Tuesday, November 06, 2001 10:59 PM
Subject: Team3S: Viscous
Coupler
Anyone had a viscous coupler go??? What were the sign and
symptoms?
How about a unit messed up by a bone head spinning the wheels on
the
jacks? Any info would help me diagnose a problem I am
having.
Rich
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Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 08:44:40
-0600
From: "Jannusch, Matt" <
mjannusch@marketwatch.com>
Subject:
RE: Team3S: Viscous Coupler
> However, I do have what I am guessing is
a normal
> sound when I start up the car after it has been
> sitting
a while ... I think. For example, in the
> morning (temperature does
not matter) I start the
> car and it can idle for 30 minutes or 0
minutes.
> As soon as I pull away it is about 10-30 feet
> later
that a sound is heard. It appears to be
> what I've guessed is the
rear differential or
> viscous coupling engaging after the fluid
passes
> through it. Almost like a sound a small motor
> would
make when whirring up to speed.
ABS system self-test.
Normal.
- -Matt
'95 3000GT Spyder VR4
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Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 10:06:49
-0500
From: "Darren Schilberg" <
dschilberg@pobox.com>
Subject: RE:
Team3S: Viscous Coupler
Thanks, Matt. This morning I was backing
out of a spot and not until I
pulled forward did I hear the sound.
Maybe it took that long to engage.
And the dreaded ABS is what has
prevented my car from starting twice
with a near-dead battery. If the
ABS self-diagnostic test did not try
to run when you turn the key then the
car would have started. Maybe I
should follow Jim B's advice and pull
the ABS fuse/plug and be done with
it. *grin*
- -----Original
Message-----
From: Jannusch, Matt
Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2001
09:45
> I start the
> car and it can idle for 30 minutes or 0
minutes.
> As soon as I pull away it is about 10-30 feet
> later
that a sound is heard. It appears to be
> what I've guessed is the
rear differential or
> viscous coupling engaging after the fluid
passes
> through it. Almost like a sound a small motor
> would
make when whirring up to speed.
ABS system self-test.
Normal.
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Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 19:09:25
+0200
From: "Oleg Reznik" <
oleg@3000gt.lv>
Subject: Team3S: Getrag
parts
Hello,
Today I ordered synchros for my 6-speed
Getrag.
MR166910 1ST & 2ND Synchronizer Hub Assy
MR166742 2ND Speed
Synchronizer Ring
MR166912 3RD & 4TH Gear Synchronizer Assy
Will
receive this parts after 1 week.
If anybody has done rebuild of Getrag tranny
please advice what else parts
may I need.
I ordered synchros because I
can't lightly shift into second and third
gear - there is
noise.
Regards,
Oleg Reznik
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Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 20:01:48
+0200
From: "Oleg Reznik" <
oleg@3000gt.lv>
Subject: Re: Team3S:
Getrag parts
2 from Germany, one from United Arab Emirates:)
Oleg
Reznik
www.3000gt.lv Whoa, where
from?
Joshua Prince
97 1/2 Fly Yellow Hummer
Convertible
3SI#0136
Microsoft Certified System Engineer
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-----Original Message-----
From: Oleg Reznik [mailto:oleg@3000gt.lv]
Sent:
Wednesday, November 07, 2001 12:09 PM
To: Team3S
Subject: Team3S: Getrag
parts
Hello,
Today I ordered synchros for my 6-speed
Getrag.
MR166910 1ST & 2ND Synchronizer Hub Assy
MR166742 2ND Speed
Synchronizer Ring
MR166912 3RD & 4TH Gear Synchronizer Assy
Will
receive this parts after 1 week.
If anybody has done rebuild of Getrag tranny
please advice what else
parts
may I need.
I ordered synchros because I
can't lightly shift into second and third
gear - there is
noise.
Regards,
Oleg Reznik
www.3000gt.lv*** Info:
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Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 10:41:31
-0800 (PST)
From: Jeff Lucius <
stealthman92@yahoo.com>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: Getrag parts
Hi Oleg,
Where did you order new complete
synchro assemblies from? Are other
parts available - gears, shafts, bearings?
Thanks.
I list 9 shops that rebuild our Getrag on the Garage Page at my
web
site - here in the USA of course. Kormex would be my first choice
for
information.
Jeff Lucius,
www.stealth316.com- ----- Original
Message -----
From: "Oleg Reznik" <
oleg@3000gt.lv>
To: "Team3S" <
Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
Sent:
Wednesday, November 07, 2001 10:09 AM
Subject: Team3S: Getrag
parts
Hello,
Today I ordered synchros for my 6-speed
Getrag.
MR166910 1ST & 2ND Synchronizer Hub Assy
MR166742 2ND Speed
Synchronizer Ring
MR166912 3RD & 4TH Gear Synchronizer Assy
Will
receive this parts after 1 week.
If anybody has done rebuild of Getrag tranny
please advice what else
parts may I need. I ordered synchros because I can't
lightly shift
into second and third gear - there is
noise.
Regards,
Oleg Reznik
www.3000gt.lv*** Info:
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Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 20:51:56
+0200
From: "Oleg Reznik" <
oleg@3000gt.lv>
Subject: Re: Team3S:
Getrag parts
Hi Jeff,
I order it with my local Mitsu
dealership.
All Getrag parts available to order. You can find parts numbers
in Euro CAPS
programm, that I sent you.
Oleg
> Hi
Oleg,
>
> Where did you order new complete synchro assemblies from?
Are other
> parts available - gears, shafts, bearings?
Thanks.
>
> I list 9 shops that rebuild our Getrag on the Garage
Page at my web
> site - here in the USA of course. Kormex would be my
first choice for
> information.
>
> Jeff Lucius,
www.stealth316.com>
> -----
Original Message -----
> From: "Oleg Reznik" <
oleg@3000gt.lv>
> To: "Team3S" <
Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
>
Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2001 10:09 AM
> Subject: Team3S: Getrag
parts
>
> Hello,
>
> Today I ordered synchros for my
6-speed Getrag.
> MR166910 1ST & 2ND Synchronizer Hub Assy
>
MR166742 2ND Speed Synchronizer Ring
> MR166912 3RD & 4TH Gear
Synchronizer Assy
> Will receive this parts after 1 week.
> If
anybody has done rebuild of Getrag tranny please advice what else
> parts
may I need. I ordered synchros because I can't lightly shift
> into second
and third gear - there is noise.
>
> Regards,
>
> Oleg
Reznik
>
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Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 14:20:41
-0500
From: "Furman, Russell" <
RFurman2@MassMutual.com>
Subject:
RE: Team3S: Getrag parts
Hey List/Jeff/Oleg, will the Euro caps recognize
US VIN's? Without a VIN
CAPS seems to be extremely user
unfriendly....
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Oleg Reznik
[SMTP:oleg@3000gt.lv]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2001 1:52 PM
>
To: Team3S
> Subject: Re: Team3S: Getrag parts
>
> Hi
Jeff,
>
> I order it with my local Mitsu dealership.
> All
Getrag parts available to order. You can find parts numbers in Euro
>
CAPS
> programm, that I sent you.
>
> Oleg
>
>
> Hi Oleg,
> >
> > Where did you order new complete synchro
assemblies from? Are other
> > parts available - gears, shafts,
bearings? Thanks.
> >
> > I list 9 shops that rebuild our
Getrag on the Garage Page at my web
> > site - here in the USA of
course. Kormex would be my first choice for
> > information.
>
>
> > Jeff Lucius,
www.stealth316.com> >
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Oleg Reznik" <
oleg@3000gt.lv>
> > To: "Team3S"
<
Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2001 10:09 AM
> > Subject: Team3S:
Getrag parts
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > Today I
ordered synchros for my 6-speed Getrag.
> > MR166910 1ST & 2ND
Synchronizer Hub Assy
> > MR166742 2ND Speed Synchronizer Ring
>
> MR166912 3RD & 4TH Gear Synchronizer Assy
> > Will
receive this parts after 1 week.
> > If anybody has done rebuild of
Getrag tranny please advice what else
> > parts may I need. I ordered
synchros because I can't lightly shift
> > into second and third gear -
there is noise.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> >
Oleg Reznik
> >
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Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 14:25:24
-0500
From: "Jeff VanOrsdal" <
jeffv@1nce.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S:
Getrag parts
I haven't had much problem with using CAPS without VIN
numbers. Given that
my car has parts from no fewer than 4 different
models of 3S, I really had
no choice ;) I can write a sort of mini-user
guide if you folks think it
would help.
What are the odds that we can
get the JDM and EURO CAPS online somewhere?
I'm really itching to dig
into those.
Jeff VanOrsdal
1991 Stealth ESX Twin Turbo
jeffv@1nce.com- -----Original
Message-----
From:
owner-team3s@team3s.com
[mailto:owner-team3s@team3s.com]On Behalf
Of Furman, Russell
Sent:
Wednesday, November 07, 2001 2:21 PM
To: 'Team 3S'
Subject: RE: Team3S:
Getrag parts
Hey List/Jeff/Oleg, will the Euro caps recognize US
VIN's? Without a VIN
CAPS seems to be extremely user
unfriendly....
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Oleg Reznik
[SMTP:oleg@3000gt.lv]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2001 1:52 PM
>
To: Team3S
> Subject: Re: Team3S: Getrag parts
>
> Hi
Jeff,
>
> I order it with my local Mitsu dealership.
> All
Getrag parts available to order. You can find parts numbers in Euro
>
CAPS
> programm, that I sent you.
>
> Oleg
>
>
> Hi Oleg,
> >
> > Where did you order new complete synchro
assemblies from? Are other
> > parts available - gears, shafts,
bearings? Thanks.
> >
> > I list 9 shops that rebuild our
Getrag on the Garage Page at my web
> > site - here in the USA of
course. Kormex would be my first choice for
> > information.
>
>
> > Jeff Lucius,
www.stealth316.com> >
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Oleg Reznik" <
oleg@3000gt.lv>
> > To: "Team3S"
<
Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2001 10:09 AM
> > Subject: Team3S:
Getrag parts
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > Today I
ordered synchros for my 6-speed Getrag.
> > MR166910 1ST & 2ND
Synchronizer Hub Assy
> > MR166742 2ND Speed Synchronizer Ring
>
> MR166912 3RD & 4TH Gear Synchronizer Assy
> > Will
receive this parts after 1 week.
> > If anybody has done rebuild of
Getrag tranny please advice what else
> > parts may I need. I ordered
synchros because I can't lightly shift
> > into second and third gear -
there is noise.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> >
Oleg Reznik
> >
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Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2001 13:14:57
-0600
From: "Dustin Lenz" <
dustin_lenz@hotmail.com>
Subject:
Team3S: Team3s: dash speakers
Hi all,
Just finished
searching the archives regarding the in dash speakers but just
wanted to
make sure I have this right. I have a 97 VR-4 and blew the right
front
speaker (tweeter?) Is it correct that the screen will just pop off?
There
aren't any screws visible which leads me to believe that the dash
needs to
come apart. Thanks in advance,
Dustin Lenz
97 Red VR-4
ATR Downpipe
with ATR Cat Back Exhaust, Stillen Intake, Blitz DSBC, RPS
Stage 3, Fidanza
Flywheel
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Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 14:57:21
-0500
From: "Darren Schilberg" <
dschilberg@pobox.com>
Subject: RE:
Team3S: dash speakers
The entire speaker assembly pops out with some
encouragement from a
small-bladed screwdriver. Once loosened you can
remove it by hand,
unplug the two connections, and pull out the
speaker.
The speaker assembly consists of a speaker, felt covering the
speaker,
plastic holding piece, and metal grill (see Eric Bowden's page below
for
details).
I also blew out my right front speaker and searched for
a replacement.
The stock size on mine is about a 3" flush-mounted
speaker. All the
replacements I found were 3-1/2" and larger in size so
no good. I ended
up getting a $20 tweeter from Radio Shack and wired
that in to add some
filler for that corner of the car. I also lost the
rear speakers from
the rollbar installation so losing the front right was 25%
of my
remaining speakers.
By brother-in-law works for Pioneer and says
nobody carries a 3" speaker
in stock (not without special ordering anyway)
and the easiest step
would be to call Mitsu. When I said that Mitsu
would charge $100 what
costs $30 in a radio store he also mentioned that it
is worth that to
get a speaker back in place since a tweeter or some other 1"
sized thing
will never replace the sound.
Eric and some others have
good replacements (his webpage is
www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Downs/9907/stereo/dashtwt.html).
-
--Flash!
1995 VR-4 with new rollbar-mounted rear speakers
-
-----Original Message-----
From: Dustin Lenz
Sent: Wednesday, November 07,
2001 14:15
Just finished searching the archives regarding the in
dash speakers but
just
wanted to make sure I have this right. I
have a 97 VR-4 and blew the
right
front speaker (tweeter?) Is it correct
that the screen will just pop
off?
There aren't any screws visible which
leads me to believe that the dash
needs to come apart. Thanks in
advance,
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Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 23:27:23
+0200
From: "Oleg" <
Oleg@3000gt.lv>
Subject: Re: Team3S:
Getrag parts
You can find appr. prices in
www.parts.com . My prices are very
simulars.
Oleg
> Oleg,
>
> If you have time, would
you be able to check the availability and cost of
> the same parts + the
output shaft..for the 5spd Getrag.
>
> If the costs are reasonable,
would you allow me to buy them through you?
>
>
Regards,
>
> Mark Wendlandt
> '91RT/TT
>
>
>
>From: "Oleg Reznik" <
oleg@3000gt.lv>
> >To: "Team3S"
<
Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
>
>Subject: Team3S: Getrag parts
> >Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 19:09:25
+0200
> >
> >Hello,
> >
> >Today I ordered
synchros for my 6-speed Getrag.
> >MR166910 1ST & 2ND Synchronizer
Hub Assy
> >MR166742 2ND Speed Synchronizer Ring
>
>MR166912 3RD & 4TH Gear Synchronizer Assy
> >Will receive
this parts after 1 week.
> >If anybody has done rebuild of Getrag
tranny please advice what else
parts
> >may I need.
> >I
ordered synchros because I can't lightly shift into second and third
>
>gear - there is noise.
> >
> >Regards,
>
>
> >Oleg Reznik
> >www.3000gt.lv
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Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 20:15:29
-0500
From: "Dennis and Anita Moore" <
stealth@quixnet.net>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: dash speakers
Is Eric still working on his car? The
website's last update appeared to be
late
'99.
Dennis
>
> Eric and some others have good
replacements (his webpage is
>
www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Downs/9907/stereo/dashtwt.html).
>
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Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2001 09:56:46
+0700
From: "CV. Duta Karya Teknik" <
dutakt@sby.centrin.net.id>
Subject:
Team3S: NEED INFO
Hi guys,
I have a problem with my rpm when I
stop it at traffic light with a/c on the
rpm always rises at 1500 rpm when I
press the clutch and will drop to 1000
rpm if a/c off automatically.
Is
this ECU problem or something else, please let us know.
Kindly
regards,
Jane
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Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 22:17:22
-0500
From: "Darren Schilberg" <
dschilberg@pobox.com>
Subject: RE:
Team3S: dash speakers
I may have sent the wrong webpage. He has two
I believe. One was
www.suthnr.com
and is older so that is why I sent this one. He is still
working on the
car although not at the same pace as the pictures in the
webpage
are.
Still ... his site is useful for us looking to replace the
dash
speakers, install speakers, crossover, amplifier, subwoofer,
stereo,
etc. and is a great launching point for the Gathering pages that
was
getting started on 3Si.
And I know some reasons why he is not
working much more on the car (but
it is not Team3S content) but he has won
most of the stereo awards at
the Gatherings so he has retired his name from
the ring on several
occasions.
Like Kurt Zobel though he drives his
N/A like a stolen TT at the track.
Maybe he has some insight to improve the
rest of us.
- --Flash!
1995 VR-4
- -----Original
Message-----
From: Dennis and Anita Moore
Sent: Wednesday, November 07,
2001 20:15
Is Eric still working on his car? The website's
last update appeared to
be
late '99.
Dennis
>
>
Eric and some others have good replacements (his webpage is
>
www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Downs/9907/stereo/dashtwt.html).
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Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2001 07:35:59
EST
From:
NETM1NDER@aol.comSubject: Re: Team3S:
NEED INFO
Could be the idle control motor.
Chris 95VR4
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