Team3S: 3000GT & Stealth  Saturday, November 3 2001  Volume 01 : Number 664




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Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2001 11:43:55 -0600
From: "Jannusch, Matt" <mjannusch@marketwatch.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Upgrade Rods with Pistons?

> The last thing I want is to put it back together and blow a rod.

I'm reusing my stock rods in my rebuild.  Have them magnafluxed to look for
stress cracks.  If there are none, then they should be able to be reused
(assuming they are still straight and pass all the standard checks).
Reports I've heard seem to indicate the stock rods are pretty durable.

If you want, you could go over the rods and polish down any forging lines
and smooth the surfaces to prevent stress risers.  They could also be
shot-peened as well.  After all that, have the rotating assembly (crank,
pistons, pins, rods, flywheel, harmonic damper) balanced as a unit and you
should be set to reassemble.

Stock rods should hold up to 20 psi (probably more) at the track if there's
no detonation...  I've run mine at 19 psi "a lot" with no detrimental
effects on the rods.

- -Matt
'95 3000GT Spyder VR4

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Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2001 12:46:17 -0500
From: Jeff.A.Williamson@jci.com
Subject: Team3S: Re: Datalogging questions

I can confirm what Jeff Lucias said about this. I ran my 357 turbos with
550cc injectors at 1.3 bar last weekend. According to the datalogger, my
injector duty cycle was 75%.

Jeff W.

>>>>> So... are the 550cc's too small for the GT357 turbos
>>>>> to be boosting @ 1.3bar?

>>> No, they are too small for 1.3 bar

>550 injectors should not be too small for 1.3 bar. Here is why.

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Date: 2 Nov 2001 11:12:28 -0800
From: John Monnin <jkmonnin@altavista.com>
Subject: Team3S: RFurman2@MassMutual.com

I took off my oxygen sensors with a open end wrench.  I think it was 19mm.  I just soaked them overnight wirh liquid wrench, removed some of the bolts on the heat sheield and bent them back,  Then gave em a twist.

If you are replacing the oxygen sensor you can just cut off the wiring off the old sensor and use a stardard deep socket to take it off.  Then you can use an open end wrench to install the new sensor.  You will have to torque by feel but it worked for me.
Or you can take a deep socket and cut a notch into it to clear the oxygen sensor wire.

P.S. You can also order special tools from Miller tools

John Monnin
1991 VR-4 4 bolt main conversion.

Original Message Below:

>From: "Furman, Russell" <RFurman2@MassMutual.com>
>Subject: Team3S: Replacing O2 Sensors
 
>OK so I am going to try and replace the O2 sensors on >my lady this weekend,
>Anyone know where I can get the O2 socket (other than >the dealer) I really
>do not want to break anything...

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Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2001 13:31:28 -0600
From: "Morice, Francis" <francis.morice@retek.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: RFurman2@MassMutual.com

Having recently done this, the wrench size is 22mm.

Francis
96 RT/TT

>>I took off my oxygen sensors with a open end wrench.  I think it was 19mm.
I just soaked them overnight
>>wirh liquid wrench, removed some of the bolts on the heat sheield and bent
them back,  Then gave em a
>>twist.

>>John Monnin
>>1991 VR-4 4 bolt main conversion.

Original Message Below:

>From: "Furman, Russell" <RFurman2@MassMutual.com>
>Subject: Team3S: Replacing O2 Sensors
 
>OK so I am going to try and replace the O2 sensors on >my lady this
weekend,
>Anyone know where I can get the O2 socket (other than >the dealer) I really

>do not want to break anything...

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Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2001 23:10:57 +0100
From: "Roger Gerl" <roger.gerl@bluewin.ch>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Datalogging questions

> >> No, they are too small for 1.3 bar
>
> 550 injectors should not be too small for 1.3 bar. Here is why.

Yes, yes, yes, I should better say they look too small or something like
that. I was off my shoes when I wrote it. Jeff, thanks for the correction !

Roger
93'3000GT TT
www.rtec.ch

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Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2001 15:01:56 -0800 (PST)
From: Geoff Mohler <gemohler@www.speedtoys.com>
Subject: Team3S: Race weekend cometh

Anyone who is local to the SF Bay Area..there is another fun weekend of
track time at SP this weekend.

Even if you dont wanna drive, you can still spectate and get free rides
purty cheap.

I'll be out in the MR-S (it uses hardly any consumables compared to the
7).

Come hang out with us. *g*

Geoff Mohler

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Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2001 14:44:48 -0800
From: "Bob Forrest" <bf@bobforrest.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Comparing Performance

- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Zobel, Kurt" <KURT.ZOBEL@ca.com>
> To: 'bdtrent'; 'Team 3S'
> Subject: RE: Team3S: Comparing Performance
> These numbers are bogus for the current 2.5 mile track, wonder what track
configuration this was. Do we actually have the article available?
> However if real, the comparison is pretty sweet for the VR4, even thou the
Vette and MR2 and RX7 had some major upgrades since then.
> Kurt

The numbers had to be for "Streets...".  We don't have the article, and the
online R&T library only goes back to '93.  There are a couple of personal
pages of articles written about our cars, and a couple more on 3Si, but I've
never seen this one from '92 published.  I do remember seeing it 'live',
though - it was what put the Stealth at the top of my list way back when...
Until then I was planning to buy an RX7, but I kept looking since I wanted a
touring car, not a sports car.  Ferrari was not in the running...  ;-)

- --Forrest

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: bdtrent [mailto:bdtrent@netzero.net]
> Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2001 6:00 PM
> To: Team 3S
> Subject: Team3S: Comparing Performance
>
> Unless I missed it, know one has mentioned a relevent article in the March
> 92 issue of Road and Track.  They asked Danny Sullivan to generate the
best
> lap time possible in each of the current performance cars at Willow
Springs.
> The results were impressive and as usual, the writers had little good to
say
> about our cars, meanwhile the results speak louder than the subjective
> editors.
>
> Miata - 1:14.96
> MR-2 - 1:12.54
> Lotus Elan - 1:10.22
> 300ZX Turbo - 1:08.07
> Corvette LT1 - 1:07.36
> Acura NSX - 1:07.14
> 3000GT VR4 - 1:06.95 (not bad for a stock 1st gen.)
> 911 Turbo - 1:05.73
> Mazda RX-7 - 1:05.64
>
> Regards,
> DaveT/92TT

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Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2001 22:55:49 -0800
From: "Ken Middaugh" <kmiddaugh@ixpres.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: FW: TRE  MASC?

I think it was Barry King.  I haven't seen a post from him in awhile...

- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Berry" <fastmax@home.com>
To: "Furman, Russell" <RFurman2@MassMutual.com>; "'Team 3S'"
<Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2001 7:19 AM
Subject: Re: Team3S: FW: TRE MASC?

> The TRE MASC was available for our car at one point ---- someone used it,
> Xwing or Bob Fontana maybe. For some reason unbeknownst to me they
> were discontinued.

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Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2001 01:45:00 -0600
From: "Jeff" <spydervr4@home.com>
Subject: Fw: Team3S: FW: TRE  MASC?

Hey I emailed Barry and here's his response about the MASC

jeff
'95 Mitsubishi Spyder VR-4
'01 Chevrolet Silverado HD Duramax

- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Barry E. King" <beking@home.com>
To: "Jeff" <spydervr4@home.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2001 1:25 AM
Subject: RE: Team3S: FW: TRE MASC?

> Hi Jeff.
> The 3K MASC was discontinued when TRE went into limbo.  Also, there was an
> extreme lack of interest in it other than a few people.  Works pretty well
> otherwise.  A few minor issues but no worse than any other add-on mixture
> controller, and overall better than anything other than a brand new EMS.
> Barry
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jeff [mailto:spydervr4@home.com]
> > Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2001 12:00 AM
> > To: Barry King
> > Subject: Fw: Team3S: FW: TRE MASC?
> >
> > Hey Barry...wasn't sure if you were still on the list.  Have a
> > response for
> > these guys?
> >
> > jeff
> > '95 Mitsubishi Spyder VR-4
> > '01 Chevrolet Silverado HD Duramax
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Ken Middaugh" <kmiddaugh@ixpres.com>
> > To: "'Team 3S'" <Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
> > Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2001 12:55 AM
> > Subject: Re: Team3S: FW: TRE MASC?
> >
> > > I think it was Barry King.  I haven't seen a post from him in
awhile...
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Jim Berry" <fastmax@home.com>
> > > To: "Furman, Russell" <RFurman2@MassMutual.com>; "'Team 3S'"
> > > <Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
> > > Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2001 7:19 AM
> > > Subject: Re: Team3S: FW: TRE MASC?
> > >
> > > > The TRE MASC was available for our car at one point ---- someone
used
> > it,
> > > > Xwing or Bob Fontana maybe. For some reason unbeknownst to me they
> > > > were discontinued.

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Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2001 12:29:51 -0500
From: "Jeff VanOrsdal" <jeffv@1nce.com>
Subject: Team3S: Location of Chicago area dyno

I finally got the contact info for the Chicago AWD dyno.  Enjoy :)

(I pulled this off one of the local message boards)

"Our Dynamometer Is a custom built all wheel drive machine. It has the
computer capabilities to give you Horsepower, Torque, 5 gas emission
readings, diagnostic load test, timed 0-60mph test, Timed 1/4 mile sprint
test and much more.
its is a high performance unit that will handle 800 horsepower at the
wheels.
We are happy to offer your the ability to run before and after test for all
the modification you may want to do. We have a full staff of certified techs
on hand and at least 6 master certified techs in house. Everyone has
different wants and needs and we will work with all of you.
Our rate is $125 per hour. We can run anywhere from 3 to 10 test during an
hour. It all depends on the time needed between runs for the modifications
and adjustments that are being done.
Our facility is open Monday thru Saturday 8am to 8pm and Sunday 8am to 5pm
appointments are needed.

WE ARE OPEN FOR BUSINESS

DynaTech Automotive Service Center
7511 W. Cermak Road. North Riverside, IL. 60546
At The North Riverside Park Mall

( 708 ) 442-8951 "

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