Team3S: 3000GT & Stealth  Sunday, September 16 2001  Volume 01 : Number 612




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Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2001 07:51:18 -0500
From: "Jim Garrelts" <jgarrelts@kscable.com>
Subject: Team3S: eRAM or Super-eRAM Experience

Hi Everyone:

I was interested to find out if any of the membership has actual experience
with having installed the eRAM or Super-eRAM electric supercharger on your
Stealth or 3000GT?  If so, what kind of HP gain did you see?  Was the
installation smooth, or did you experience problems?  What are the long-term
effects on engine life likely to be?

Thanks, Jim

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Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2001 07:25:35 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jeff Lucius <stealthman92@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: eRAM or Super-eRAM Experience

Did you look at the Team3S FAQ page?

http://www.team3s.com/FAQeram.htm

Jeff Lucius, www.stealth316.com

- --- Jim Garrelts <jgarrelts@kscable.com> wrote:
> Hi Everyone:
>
> I was interested to find out if any of the membership has actual
> experience
> with having installed the eRAM or Super-eRAM electric supercharger
> on your
> Stealth or 3000GT?  If so, what kind of HP gain did you see?  Was
> the
> installation smooth, or did you experience problems?  What are the
> long-term
> effects on engine life likely to be?
>
> Thanks, Jim

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Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2001 11:52:03 -0700 (PDT)
From: Geoff Mohler <gemohler@www.speedtoys.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: eRAM or Super-eRAM Experience

Bob has one..says it made a difference, however, the awesome amperage draw
and limiter number of seconds you can safely use it..leads me to belive
its not much worth it.

I dunno,

On Sat, 15 Sep 2001, Jim Garrelts wrote:

> Hi Everyone:
>
> I was interested to find out if any of the membership has actual experience
> with having installed the eRAM or Super-eRAM electric supercharger on your
> Stealth or 3000GT?  If so, what kind of HP gain did you see?  Was the
> installation smooth, or did you experience problems?  What are the long-term
> effects on engine life likely to be?
>
> Thanks, Jim
*New & Improved: http://www.speedtoys.com *


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Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2001 13:44:13 -0500
From: Merritt <merritt@cedar-rapids.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S: eRAM or Super-eRAM Experience

I like the Kirby solution better.
That's where you mount a Kirby vacuum cleaner in the rear where it sucks
exhaust, thus acting as an extractor and helping the turbos spool up faster. 
Rich

At 11:52 AM 9/15/01 -0700, Geoff Mohler wrote:
>Bob has one..says it made a difference, however, the awesome amperage draw
>and limiter number of seconds you can safely use it..leads me to belive
>its not much worth it.
>
>I dunno,
>
>On Sat, 15 Sep 2001, Jim Garrelts wrote:
>
>> Hi Everyone:
>>
>> I was interested to find out if any of the membership has actual experience
>> with having installed the eRAM or Super-eRAM electric supercharger on your
>> Stealth or 3000GT?  If so, what kind of HP gain did you see?  Was the
>> installation smooth, or did you experience problems?  What are the
long-term
>> effects on engine life likely to be?
>>
>> Thanks, Jim

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Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2001 15:46:06 EDT
From: DiABLoCarAudio@aol.com
Subject: Team3S: Idle Screw dimensions/availability

If you don't want to read the story, skip to the bottom right before the
signature.  =)

Hi everyone, I was in the middle of Maine yesterday(4 hours from home) and my
idle screw decided it didn't want to go on.  I was on the highway, boosting
as usual and then I heard a loud metalic pop and there was an insane vacuum
leak.  I pulled the car over and by the time I was going 15MPH it had already
sputtered and stalled.  I looked over the entire engine for half an hour
looking for a loose hose or hole in an intercooler or Y-Pipe.  After no luck,
I hopped in the car and started it up with my foot heavily on the
accelorator.  I mananged to get the car to my destination, stalling at every
toll and stop sign.  Once there I put the car to bed. 
This morning I popped the hood and tried ot figure out what was wrong.  After
searching every visible place of the engine from the top, bottom, and sides,
I gave up.  Just as I was closing the hood, I noticed the idle screww didn't
have it's little rubber cover on it.  I took a closer look and low and
behold, no screw... 
I took a pen cap, screwed it in the hole, and started the car.  She ran as
smooth as she could on a cold Maine morning.  I was excited having found out
that it wasn't going to cost me a few thousand for new turbos, but then after
much thinking:

How hard is it to get an idle screw?  is it a common thread machine screw? 
Can I use a metric bolt of any particular size to hold me over for a little
while or is this recommended against?  Any help would be greatly appreciated
as I don't plan on driving the car anymore until I fix this problem. 
Thanks,
- -Paul - 3Si1127
1992 Green RT/TT
    K&N FIPK & Re-gapped plugs(0.034")
    Porterfield Cryo-Treated Rotors, R-4S Pads, & SS lines
    Greddy Profec Boost Controller @ .9 Bar
    Custom 3" Exhaust
www.DiabloCarAudio.com, www.DiabloEnterprises.com

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Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2001 16:25:52 -0500 (CDT)
From: David Littau <littau@cs.umn.edu>
Subject: Re: Team3S: eRAM or Super-eRAM Experience

On Sat, 15 Sep 2001, Merritt wrote:

> I like the Kirby solution better.
> That's where you mount a Kirby vacuum cleaner in the rear where it sucks
> exhaust, thus acting as an extractor and helping the turbos spool up faster. 
> Rich

Hmmm.  If you tried this, you would be attempting to suck air through the
exhaust, and through the expansion side of the turbos.  To suck more air
through, you have to have more air available on the other side.  Which
means you are attempting to suck exhaust out of the engine, which means
you have to suck more air into the cylinder, which means the air has to
come through the intake tract.

I don't think a Kirby would have enough suction to perform this task. But
heck, give it a try and prove me wrong.  Don't forget to power the kirby
off the alternator.

david


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Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2001 19:49:40 -0700
From: Andrew Woll <awoll1@pacbell.net>
Subject: Team3S: Can't get key out of ignition - fixed.

Hello List:  Success - my ignition key now comes out, and I got rid of that
pesky button.

Here is the scoop. The button is held on the car by a pin. My pin came
loose. The button is actually the end of a shaft about an inch long. That
shaft meets another one inch shaft at a 90 degree angle deep within the
ignition switch. The second shaft goes down to a lever that is visible once
the core of the ignition switch is removed.

I was able to get to all the parts on my own by taking off the plastic that
surrounds the steering column. It was not necessary to take off the steering
wheel. The plastic comes off with 4 screws.

Once the plastic was off, I knew I could go no further because I don't know
anything about locks.

I went to a Dodge dealer and they were no help. The computer for Dodge had
Stealth parts, but did not have much in the way of ignition switch parts or
diagrams. They were willing to sell me a new core for 117. I went elsewhere.

I then called my local locksmith. He said bring the car in. I did. He took
out the ignition core and we were able to see the inside lever. He tried to
get this out gently for about 15 minutes. Then he took my advice and took a
sharpened screwdriver to the pin holding the lever in and broke it out in
about 20 seconds. Everything now works great. I no longer have to deal with
the button, and there is now one less thing to break in the future. Costs -
20 bucks. It would have been 30 bucks more if he had to take the plastic
off, but since I brought it in sans plastic he was more than happy to give
me a break.

I hope this helps somebody somewhere.

Andy

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Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2001 23:52:42 -0400
From: "WALTER D. BEST" <WDBO39@erols.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Idle Screw dimensions/availability

Same thing happened to me and I have posted several times regarding this to
www.3Si.org.  If this happens to anyone just run your AC, it will keep the
idle up so the car wont stall.  The car won't run well but at least it won't
stall every time you slow down or stop.

As for availability no problem, just get one from the Dealer, get the screw,
and cap and don't forget about the O-ring (I think it's a number 5 O-ring,
but don't hold me to it).  I think after time the O-ring wears out due to
heat and lets the screw back out.  I ordered an extra screw,O-ring and cap,
got 2 of each and the for total shipping was more than the parts.  I now
keep an extra in the trunk.

Now under normal conditions, I can get my parts the next day from West Broad
Mitsubishi discount dealer, in Richmond (1-800-229-1001).  However, now in
the light of events, who knows how long it would take.  I do live in
Northern VA so if I had too I could drive down and pick up the parts.  Oh
the parts and shipping were about $10.  The idle screw appears to be a hard
plastic with a point on the end, not sure if I'd advise using a metal screw.

I hope this helps,

Dave Best

- ----- Original Message -----
From: <DiABLoCarAudio@aol.com>
To: <Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2001 3:46 PM
Subject: Team3S: Idle Screw dimensions/availability

(snip) I noticed the idle screw didn't  have it's little rubber cover on it.
I took a closer look and low and behold, no screw...

How hard is it to get an idle screw?  is it a common thread machine screw?
 Can I use a metric bolt of any particular size to hold me over for a little
 while or is this recommended against?  Any help would be greatly
appreciated
 as I don't plan on driving the car anymore until I fix this problem.
Thanks,
 -Paul - 3Si1127
1992 Green RT/TT (snip)

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Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 00:10:06 -0400
From: Eric Bowden <suthnr@geocities.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: eRAM or Super-eRAM Experience

Yep, I have an eRam in my car, as part of my custom "Stealth Air" intake
system.  I have a switch on the accelerator pedal (and a master switch on
the dash) to control it so it only comes on when I go WOT.  Long story
short, it netted my about 1 to 2 tenths in the 1/4.  I did end up added a
1-farad capacitor (just like the ones used in competition stereos) as this
thing is the perfect application for a cap.  It has a 50 amp draw when it
kicks in, and I was seeing about a 1.5 volt drop in the car when I'd kick
it in, and it would slowly come back up. while it was running.  Adding the
cap got it to only slightly drop about a half volt bult almost instantly
return to normal.

Was it worth it?  Nyah, maybe.  I like having it for the relatively unique
factor.  Was it worth the bang for the buck?  Probably not, considering you
could take the same amount I spent on the eram and cap and get a nitrous
kit in there and jet up 75 or whatever shot you choose.  But the nitrous
will have more detrimental long term effects than this which simply pushes
air into  the engine rather than the engine having to suck it in.

EricB

Hmmm... methinks this might be my first post to this list...?

At 09:24 AM 9/15/2001 -0400, you wrote:
>Jim,
>
>Try contacting Eric Bowden.  I think he has an eRam.
>
>--Flash!
>1995 VR-4
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-team3s@team3s.com [mailto:owner-team3s@team3s.com]On Behalf
>Of Jim Garrelts
>Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2001 8:51 AM
>To: Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st
>Subject: Team3S: eRAM or Super-eRAM Experience
>
>
>Hi Everyone:
>
>I was interested to find out if any of the membership has actual experience
>with having installed the eRAM or Super-eRAM electric supercharger on your
>Stealth or 3000GT?  If so, what kind of HP gain did you see?  Was the
>installation smooth, or did you experience problems?  What are the long-term
>effects on engine life likely to be?
>
>Thanks, Jim

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Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 01:24:14 -0400
From: "Darren Schilberg" <dschilberg@pobox.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: eRAM or Super-eRAM Experience

Welcome, Suthnr, to the posting then.  This can't be your first post.
You've been around forever.

Didn't you run your fastest time at Thompson Dragway at the Midwest
Gathering when you put your subwoofer box back IN the trunk of your car?  I
don't know if you had the eRam on at that time but I don't know that it
would have much effect on the strip.  Well, let me rephrase ... it would
have more of an effect on a road course where you are at WOT for a much
longer amount of time than the strip.

- --Flash!
1995 VR-4 sucking air through a K&N FIPK

- -----Original Message-----
From: Eric Bowden
Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2001 12:10 AM

Yep, I have an eRam in my car, as part of my custom "Stealth Air" intake
system.  I have a switch on the accelerator pedal (and a master switch on
the dash) to control it so it only comes on when I go WOT.  Long story
short, it netted my about 1 to 2 tenths in the 1/4.  I did end up added a
1-farad capacitor (just like the ones used in competition stereos) as this
thing is the perfect application for a cap.  It has a 50 amp draw when it
kicks in, and I was seeing about a 1.5 volt drop in the car when I'd kick
it in, and it would slowly come back up. while it was running.  Adding the
cap got it to only slightly drop about a half volt bult almost instantly
return to normal.

Was it worth it?  Nyah, maybe.  I like having it for the relatively unique
factor.  Was it worth the bang for the buck?  Probably not, considering you
could take the same amount I spent on the eram and cap and get a nitrous
kit in there and jet up 75 or whatever shot you choose.  But the nitrous
will have more detrimental long term effects than this which simply pushes
air into  the engine rather than the engine having to suck it in.

EricB

Hmmm... methinks this might be my first post to this list...?


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Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 16:34:44 -0000
From: "Roger Gerl" <roger.gerl@bluewin.ch>
Subject: Re: Team3S: eRAM or Super-eRAM Experience

5hp in the rpm range when activated measured on a dyno. Goto
http://www.team3s.com/FAQeram.htm for details

> Was it worth it?  Nyah, maybe.  I like having it for the relatively unique
> factor.  Was it worth the bang for the buck?  Probably not, considering
you
> could take the same amount I spent on the eram and cap and get a nitrous
> kit in there and jet up 75 or whatever shot you choose.  But the nitrous
> will have more detrimental long term effects than this which simply pushes
> air into  the engine rather than the engine having to suck it in.

Roger
93'3000GT TT
www.rtec.ch


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