Team3S: 3000GT & Stealth Thursday, September 13 2001 Volume 01 : Number 610




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Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 00:04:25 -0700
From: Rick <melvin@gamewood.net>
Subject: Team3S: transfer case front output shaft????

Does anyone know if the  transfer case front output shaft can be pulled
without takeing the trans. apart?This is a 92 TT.
Thanks,
RICK

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Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 09:13:06 -0500
From: "Willis, Charles E." <cewillis@TexasChildrensHospital.org>
Subject: Team3S: interesting perspective on terrorist attack

Thought his reference to our "disfunctional family" was especially relevant
to our listmembers!

> > By Leonard Pitts Jr.
> > Syndicated columnist
> >
> > They pay me to tease shades of meaning from social
> > and cultural issues, to
> > provide words that help make sense of that which
> > troubles the American soul.
> > But in this moment of airless shock when hot tears
> > sting disbelieving eyes,
> > the only thing I can find to say, the only words
> > that seem to fit, must be
> > addressed to the unknown author of this suffering.
> >
> > You monster. You beast. You unspeakable bastard.
> >
> > What lesson did you hope to teach us by your
> > coward's attack on our World
> > Trade Center, our Pentagon, us? What was it you
> > hoped we would learn?
> > Whatever it was, please know that you failed.
> >
> > Did you want us to respect your cause? You just
> > damned your cause.
> >
> > Did you want to make us fear? You just steeled our
> > resolve.
> >
> > Did you want to tear us apart? You just brought us
> > together.
> >
> > Let me tell you about my people. We are a vast and
> > quarrelsome family, a
> > family rent by racial, cultural, political and class
> > division, but a family
> > nonetheless. We're frivolous, yes, capable of
> > expending tremendous emotional
> > energy on pop cultural minutiae, a singer's
> > revealing dress, a ball team's
> > misfortune, a cartoon mouse.
> >
> > We're wealthy, too, spoiled by the ready
> > availability of trinkets and
> > material goods, and maybe because of that, we walk
> > through life with a
> > certain sense of blithe entitlement. We are
> > fundamentally decent, though -
> > peace-loving and compassionate. We struggle to know
> > the right thing and to
> > do it. And we are, the overwhelming majority of us,
> > people of faith,
> > believers in a just and loving God.
> >
> > Some people - you, perhaps - think that any or all
> > of this makes us weak.
> > You're mistaken. We are not weak. Indeed, we are
> > strong in ways that cannot
> > be measured by arsenals.
> >
> > Yes, we're in pain now. We are in mourning and we
> > are in shock. We're still
> > grappling with the unreality of the awful thing you
> > did, still working to
> > make ourselves understand that this isn't a special
> > effect from some
> > Hollywood blockbuster, isn't the plot development
> > from a Tom Clancy novel.
> >
> > Both in terms of the awful scope of its ambition and
> > the probable final
> > death toll, your attacks are likely to go down as
> > the worst acts of
> > terrorism in the history of the United States and,
> > indeed, the history of
> > the world. You've bloodied us as we have never been
> > bloodied before.
> >
> > But there's a gulf of difference between making us
> > bloody and making us
> > fall. This is the lesson Japan was taught to its
> > bitter sorrow the last time
> > anyone hit us this hard, the last time anyone
> > brought us such abrupt and
> > monumental pain. When roused, we are righteous in
> > our outrage, terrible in
> > our force. When provoked by this level of barbarism,
> > we will bear any
> > suffering, pay any cost, go to any length, in the
> > pursuit of justice.
> >
> > I tell you this without fear of contradiction. I
> > know my people, as you, I
> > think, do not. What I know reassures me. It also
> > causes me to tremble with
> > dread of the future.
> >
> > In days to come, there will be recrimination and
> > accusation, fingers
> > pointing to determine whose failure allowed this to
> > happen and what can be
> > done to prevent it from happening again. There will
> > be heightened security,
> > misguided talk of revoking basic freedoms. We'll go
> > forward from this moment
> > sobered, chastened, sad. But determined, too.
> > Unimaginably determined.
> >
> > You see, there is steel beneath this velvet. That
> > aspect of our character is
> > seldom understood by people who don't know us well.
> > On this day, the
> > family's bickering is put on hold. As Americans we
> > will weep, as Americans
> > we will mourn, and as Americans, we will rise in
> > defense of all that we
> > cherish.
> >
> > Still, I keep wondering what it was you hoped to
> > teach us. It occurs to me
> > that maybe you just wanted us to know the depths of
> > your hatred.
> >
> > If that's the case, consider the message received.
> > And take this message in
> > exchange: You don't know my people. You don't know
> > what we're about. You
> > don't know what you just started.
> >
> > But you're about to learn.
> >


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Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 11:00:55 -0400
From: "rjmsmail@swbell.net" <rjmsmail@swbell.net>
Subject: Team3S: Shifter pops out of 4th gear: 1994 3000gt SL

Hi guys,
Been off in Scotland for months but back in Houston now driving my 1994 3000gt SL (standard, 5-speed, all stock).  The problem I'm having is that it started "popping out of 4th gear", first only about once every few days of driving, now probably after maybe a minute or two in 4th gear.  It's been doing this for months now but I have been just skipping 4th gear because the dealer here said I was probably in need of a transmission overhaul it has about 95,000 miles on it and I admit, I haven't done much maintenance on it), around $2,000!  I was wondering if I am just on borrowed time with the other gears starting to mess up or if I am hurting anything by driving it this way, other than I stay in 3rd gear longer now, usually shifting to 5th gear around 4,000rpm.  I DO NOT REST MY HAND ON THE SHIFTER WHILE DRIVING, is it probably just worn bearings (synchros?), something that I can't fix by removing the shifter boot?   Thanks in advance for the advice.

Bob
Proud to Be an American:

http://www.angelfire.com/fl4/IceWalker/ATributetotheVictimsandFamily.html

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Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 09:39:05 -0700
From: "Gross, Erik" <erik.gross@intel.com>
Subject: Team3S: Rear Strut Tower Brace with Manual Glass Sunroof

I had planned to send this out on Tuesday, but then, well, you know what
happened.  I wrote this when I was in a much more cheerful mood, and I hope
that this is good news for some in the 3/S community. However, my earlier
glee has been largely overshadowed by the events of this week.  To all who
lost friends and family this week, my thoughts and prayers are with you.

- --Erik

- ----------------------------
Ever since I can remember (3+ years), it's been repeated ad nauseam
in the 3/S community that rear strut tower bars are only for NA cars or for
TT cars with either the power sunroof or no sunroof.  I've also heard many
owners of TT cars with the glass, removable sunroof complaining about the
fact that the sunroof brackets prevent the use of a rear strut tower bar.  I
have a '95 VR-4 with a glass sunroof and I, too, have been lamenting the
fact that my once-useful (on my previous base model) Cusco strut tower now
sits on a shelf in my garage since I like the option of removing my roof on
the 2.7 sunny days a year we get in the Seattle area.
So who started the rumor that you can't have a rear strut tower
brace if you have sunroof brackets?  
I was feeling curious the other night, so I popped the plastic
covers off of the sunroof brackets and took a look at the upper shock bolts
and bracket placement.  It *looked* like it might fit, so I went ahead and
tried installing the brackets for the strut tower brace.  45 minutes later,
I had a completely installed rear strut tower bar AND the sunroof brackets
installed.  The bar does not interfere with the sunroof brackets and I
tested this by putting my sunroof in the trunk - it fits nicely.  The only
tools I needed were:  14mm and 13mm 6-pt deep sockets, a 14mm 6-pt socket, a
socket U-joint, 14mm wrench, #2 and #3 Phillips screwdrivers, 3/8" socket
wrench, a 3" socket extension (and a cheater bar - optional).  No other
panel removal necessary.  See pictures:

http://pws.ihpc.net/erikgross/3000GT/RearStrutBar/RearStrutBar.html

- --Erik
'95 VR-4

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Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 13:25:03 -0400
From: "Darren Schilberg" <dschilberg@pobox.com>
Subject: Team3S: Clutch reservoir cap

Can anyone confirm if the cap on the clutch reservoir snaps on or twists on?
I thought the first and second time I removed the cap I twisted it
counter-clockwise (like normal threaded things) but this last time when I
tried to put it back on I could not twist it on.  A friend of mine examined
the cap and reservoir and mentioned that the ridge was there to just allow
the cap to snap into place.  Confirmation?

- --Flash!
1995 VR-4

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Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 11:26:20 -0700 (PDT)
From: Geoff Mohler <gemohler@www.speedtoys.com>
Subject: Team3S: Carbon/Carbon OEM replacement brakes available..

..soon!

They are prototyped, and testing begins next week!

This is a pure carbon set of OEM fitment pads, and a pure carbon OEM
fitment rotor.

NOT for street use.  These materials will absorb moisture.  They require
heating for a lap or two (minimum of 300d) to cook out any gathered
moisture to work well.  Once warmed up (steel rotors are OK to about
1200-1400d, these will brake well into the 2000d range.  EXCELLENT for OEM
replacements track only.

Cost??

Would you pay $1700 for a -full- set of front pads & rotors?

Wear??

Negligible says my developer for our use (these will stop an F1 car for
3hrs at MUCH greater speeds and forces than we can hope for).

Safety??

If you're not belted it once warmed up, you -will- eat glass...thats a
good thing to wish for eh?

Who is interested..I mean _interested_.

*New & Improved: http://www.speedtoys.com *


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Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 01:22:14 -0400
From: "Scott Beydler" <dahogrydr@triad.rr.com>
Subject: Team3S: Clutch pedal

Hello everyone.  I would first like to add my best wishes to the so many
people affected by the events of September 11th.  It is so mind-numbing to
believe something like this could happen.  My family and I send our thoughts
and prayers to the victims and their families.
I was driving my 1994 Dodge Stealth (base model) tonight and noticed the
clutch pedal starting to become soft.  It continued to get progressively
worse to the point where it would be almost an inch or two from the
floorboard before actually engaging the clutch.  By the time I was close to
my house the clutch pedal was completely inoperable and on the floor.  It
went from not engaging the clutch when depressing the pedal to now where the
pedal is all the way down on the floor and won't rebound to it's original
position.
I might be stupid and the obvious problem is that the clutch has gone out.
However, I was hoping that there might be some adjustment that has gone out
of whack and the clutch isn't the root problem.  Anyone who has had similar
experience with this problem please let me know what you think and would
suggest.
Thanks
Scott Beydler

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Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 14:39:54 -0500
From: "Willis, Charles E." <cewillis@TexasChildrensHospital.org>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Clutch pedal

I don't think what you are describing is the clutch plate wearing out - it
sounds like a leak in the hydralics for the clutch.  check the clutch fluid
reservior and see if there is any fluid in there. it is most likely to leak
out at the slave cylinder which is mounted on the transaxle, although it can
leak out at the master cylinder.  The seals in these can also go bad.  They
can be rebuilt/replaced and then you bleed the system.

Chuck Willis

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Scott Beydler [SMTP:dahogrydr@triad.rr.com]
> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 12:22 AM
> To: Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st
> Subject: Team3S: Clutch pedal
>
> Hello everyone.  I would first like to add my best wishes to the so many
> people affected by the events of September 11th.  It is so mind-numbing to
> believe something like this could happen.  My family and I send our
> thoughts
> and prayers to the victims and their families.
> I was driving my 1994 Dodge Stealth (base model) tonight and noticed the
> clutch pedal starting to become soft.  It continued to get progressively
> worse to the point where it would be almost an inch or two from the
> floorboard before actually engaging the clutch.  By the time I was close
> to
> my house the clutch pedal was completely inoperable and on the floor.  It
> went from not engaging the clutch when depressing the pedal to now where
> the
> pedal is all the way down on the floor and won't rebound to it's original
> position.
> I might be stupid and the obvious problem is that the clutch has gone out.
> However, I was hoping that there might be some adjustment that has gone
> out
> of whack and the clutch isn't the root problem.  Anyone who has had
> similar
> experience with this problem please let me know what you think and would
> suggest.
> Thanks
> Scott Beydler

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Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 16:20:23 -0400
From: "Scott Beydler" <dahogrydr@triad.rr.com>
Subject: Team3S: Clutch Pedal

I was driving my 1994 Dodge Stealth (base model) tonight and noticed the
clutch pedal starting to become soft.  It continued to get progressively
worse to the point where it would be almost an inch or two from the
floorboard before actually engaging the clutch.  By the time I was close to
my house the clutch pedal was completely inoperable and on the floor.  It
went from not engaging the clutch when depressing the pedal to now where the
pedal is all the way down on the floor and won't rebound to it's original
position.
I might be stupid and the obvious problem is that the clutch has gone out.
However, I was hoping that there might be some adjustment that has gone out
of whack and the clutch isn't the root problem.  Anyone who has had similar
experience with this problem please let me know what you think and would
suggest.
Thanks
Scott Beydler

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Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 17:50:55 -0400
From: "Alex Pedenko" <apedenko@mediaone.net>
Subject: Team3S: Fw: TRIBUTE TO THE UNITED STATES

I don't know if sending this is breaking any rules and if it is, I
apologize. But I thought that at a time like this we could use all the
encouragement we can get...

    Alex.

> > May this encourage Americans on a day like today.
> >
> > TRIBUTE TO THE UNITED STATES
> > This, from a Canadian newspaper, is worth sharing.
> >
> > America: The Good Neighbor.
> > Widespread but only partial news coverage was given
> > recently to a remarkable editorial broadcast from
> > Toronto by Gordon Sinclair, a Canadian television
> > Commentator. What follows is the full text of his
> > trenchant remarks as printed in the Congressional
> > Record:
> >
> > "This Canadian thinks it is time to speak up for the
> > Americans as the most generous and possibly the
> > least appreciated people on all the earth. Germany,
> > Japan and, to a lesser extent, Britain and Italy
> > were lifted out of the debris of war by the
> > Americans who poured in billions of dollars and
> > forgave other billions in debts.
> >
> > None of these countries is today paying even the
> > interest on its remaining debts to the United
> > States. When France was in danger of collapsing in
> > 1956, it was the Americans who propped it up, and
> > their reward was to be insulted and swindled on the
> > streets of Paris. I was there. I saw it.
> >
> > When earthquakes hit distant cities, it is the
> > United States that hurries in to help. This spring,
> > 59 American communities were flattened by tornadoes.
> > Nobody helped. The Marshall Plan and the Truman
> > Policy pumped billions of dollars into discouraged
> > countries. Now newspapers in those countries are
> > writing about the decadent, warmongering Americans.
> >
> > I'd like to see just one of those countries that is
> > gloating over the erosion of the United States
> > dollar build its own airplane. Does any other
> > country in the world have a plane to equal the
> > Boeing Jumbo Jet, the Lockheed Tri-Star, or the
> > Douglas DC10?
> >
> > If so, why don't they fly them? Why do all the
> > International lines except Russia fly American
> > Planes? Why does no other land on earth even
> > consider putting a man or woman on the moon? You
> > talk about Japanese technocracy, and you get radios.
> > You talk about German technocracy, and you get
> > automobiles. You talk about American technocracy,
> > and you find men on the moon - not once, but several
> > times - and safely home again.
> >
> > You talk about scandals, and the Americans put
> > theirs right in the store window for everybody to
> > look at. Even their draft-dodgers are not pursued
> > and hounded. They are here on our streets, and most
> > of them, unless they are breaking Canadian laws, are
> > getting American dollars from ma and pa at home to
> > spend here.
> >
> > When the railways of France, Germany and India were
> > breaking down through age, it was the Americans who
> > rebuilt them. When the Pennsylvania Railroad and the
> > New York Central went broke, nobody loaned them an
> > old caboose. Both are still broke.
> >
> > I can name you 5000 times when the Americans raced
> > to the help of other people in trouble. Can you name
> > me even one time when someone else raced to the
> > Americans in trouble? I don't think there was
> > outside help even during the San Francisco
> > earthquake.
> >
> > Our neighbors have faced it alone, and I'm one
> > Canadian who is damned tired of hearing them get
> > kicked around. They will come out of this thing
> > with their flag high. And when they do, they are
> > entitled to thumb their nose at the lands that are
> > gloating over their present troubles. I hope Canada
> > is not one of those."
> >
> > Stand proud, America! Wear it proudly!!
> >
> > This is one of the best editorials that I have ever
> > read regarding the United States. It is nice that
> > one man realizes it. I only wish that the rest of
> > the world would realize it. We are always blamed for
> > everything, and never even get a thank you for the
> > things we do.
> >
> > I would hope that each of you would send this to as
> > many people as you can and emphasize that they
> > should send it to as many of their friends until
> > this letter is sent to every person on the web. I am
> > just a single American that has read this, TRIBUTE TO
> > THE UNITED STATES

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Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 18:05:46 -0700 (PDT)
From: John Christian <jczoom_619@yahoo.com>
Subject: Team3S: Re: 3S-Racers: Carbon/Carbon OEM replacement brakes available..

Hi Goeff,

No thanks ---- toooo pricy. 

Now, if I didn't have BIG REDS, well maybe 1700 isn't
too high.

Be of good cheer,
John


- --- Geoff Mohler <gemohler@www.speedtoys.com> wrote:
> ..soon!
>
> They are prototyped, and testing begins next week!
>
> This is a pure carbon set of OEM fitment pads, and a
> pure carbon OEM
> fitment rotor.
>
> NOT for street use.  These materials will absorb
> moisture.  They require
> heating for a lap or two (minimum of 300d) to cook
> out any gathered
> moisture to work well.  Once warmed up (steel rotors
> are OK to about
> 1200-1400d, these will brake well into the 2000d
> range.  EXCELLENT for OEM
> replacements track only.
>
> Cost??
>
> Would you pay $1700 for a -full- set of front pads &
> rotors?
>
> Wear??
>
> Negligible says my developer for our use (these will
> stop an F1 car for
> 3hrs at MUCH greater speeds and forces than we can
> hope for).
>
> Safety??
>
> If you're not belted it once warmed up, you -will-
> eat glass...thats a
> good thing to wish for eh?
>
> Who is interested..I mean _interested_.
>
> *New & Improved: http://www.speedtoys.com *
>


=====
Please respond to jczoom@iname.com
'93 TT with Porsche brakes and Supra TT rotors
12.4@109MPH  5/97 almost stock
http://www.geocities.com/motorcity/flats/4538

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