Team3S: 3000GT & Stealth Friday, August 24
2001 Volume 01 : Number
588
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Date:
Thu, 23 Aug 2001 23:42:24 -0500
From: "Todd D.Shelton" <
tds@brightok.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S:
Which downpipe?
- -----Original Message-----
From: Merritt <
merritt@cedar-rapids.net>
To:
3sracers@speedtoys.com <
3sracers@speedtoys.com>;
Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st <
Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
Date:
Thursday, August 23, 2001 9:13 AM
Subject: Team3S: Which
downpipe?
>
>Any other opinions on Stillen v
ATR?
>
Alamo DP - Alamoautosports.com
Unless you *have* to
eliminate cats it's a nice pipe.
Bolts on to existing cats - allowing test
pipe for main
and/or gutting of precats.
- - tds
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Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 23:48:13
-0500
From: "Todd D.Shelton" <
tds@brightok.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S:
CQ, CQ, calling CQ
- -----Original Message-----
From: Merritt <
merritt@cedar-rapids.net>
To:
Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st <
Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
Date:
Wednesday, August 22, 2001 11:00 PM
Subject: Team3S: CQ, CQ, calling
CQ
>I seem to be off the list. Threads are just whizzing by that I've
never
>seen before. Stillen downpipes for example, and only two or three
messages
>a day. I'm not getting a dozen messages from Flash every day, so
I'm
>beginning to think there is something wrong.
>
>Rich
I don't think too many other than you and I are
going
to know what CQ means Rich!
I had the same problem not very long
ago - I was in fact
not getting the live posts. I knew this for sure to
be the
case because I also get the Digest version (thankfully)
Turned
out to be some sort of glitch in the mail server software -
something about
too many subscribers, limtations or something?
Finally after 10 days or
so I started receiving the Live posts again.
Quick fix would be to also
subscribe to the Digest version as well
as Live until you receive Live posts
again - especially since I just
replied to your DP question!
73's -
Todd N5MYA
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Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 00:45:45
-0500
From: "Jannusch, Matt" <
mjannusch@marketwatch.com>
Subject:
RE: Team3S: Which downpipe?
> Alamo DP -
Alamoautosports.com
> Unless you *have* to eliminate cats it's a nice
pipe.
> Bolts on to existing cats - allowing test pipe for main
>
and/or gutting of precats.
That's the pipe I'm using right now, but am
considering switching to the
Stillen or ATR pipe. The Alamo pipe's
fitment to the rear precat is pretty
poor. The alignment is off by a
few degrees which makes the gasket not seal
all the way, and I question
whether the pipe is possibly even blocking part
of the exhaust output from
the precat due to the poor fitment. My gasket
comes out with a
carbonized 1" wide band on one side when I take the
downpipe off, so
something isn't right. I know at least one other person
who complained
of the same problem.
The pipe has also rubbed against part of the frame,
although that could be
because the front bulkhead on my Spyder is specially
reinforced compared to
the standard VR4 coupe so the dimensions are probably
a little different.
The flex section on mine also disintegrated.
Alamo was good enough to ship
me a replacement flex section, but you need to
take the pipe to a shop to
get it welded onto the pipe yourself (unless
you've got a TIG welder handy
in your garage).
Overall, I do think it
is a good downpipe, but check the fitment on your car
carefully and return it
if it doesn't fit right. Its certainly possible
that there are just a
few bad ones out there and that most are good.
I've got a high-flow 3"
main cat on my car with flanges to mate between the
stock or Alamo downpipe
and my Borla cat-back. Works great, but it seems
difficult to find
testpipes for this setup. I know I could make one for
about $5, but I
just haven't had time.
- -Matt
'95 3000GT Spyder VR4
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Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 07:40:30
-0400
From: "lisa buccela" <
buccela_lisa@hotmail.com>
Subject:
Team3S: Teams 3s RE: Car lost Acceleration
Hi Team 3s, I wrote last week
complaining of a Stealth R/T (non-turbo) that
lost acceleration and then
would not re-start. It turned out to be the
timing belt, which caused
damage to the valves, which means the Stealth is
still at the shop and it is
going to cost a lot of money to fix.
So to all the Stealth and 3000 GT
enthusiasts, please make sure to change
your timing belt before 100000 km,
otherwise it is going to cost you a
bundle of money to fix all the other
problems that occur if it snaps while
driving.
Thanks for all the
advice, Team 3s
Lisa
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Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 06:05:43
-0700 (PDT)
From: Jeff Lucius <
stealthman92@yahoo.com>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: Transfer Case Confusion
I have never seen a TC like that! At
least not for 5-speeds. You guys
with 6-speeds, does your TC look like
that?
Erik, please give us some more details on your car. Reply to
me
privately if you want with more picture and details so I can update
my
web pages.
Thanks,
Jeff Lucius,
www.stealth316.com- --- "Gross,
Erik" <
erik.gross@intel.com>
wrote:
>
> [ I'm in the process of tracking down a ]
>
[ small oil leak in my transfer case ]
> [ and/or transaxle.
]
>
> I've come across a few confusing things, and I'm wondering
whether
> anyone
> else has noticed this.
>
>
Note: If you don't have a service manual handy, you may want to
>
glance at
> Jeff Lucius's page to see the diagrams I'm talking about
(thanks,
> Jeff!)
>
>
http://www.geocities.com/lutransys/jlucius/2-awddrainfill.htm>
> You can see my transfer case here:
>
http://pws.ihpc.net/erikgross/TC2.jpg>
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Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 08:15:33
-0500
From: "Willis, Charles E." <
cewillis@TexasChildrensHospital.org>
Subject:
RE: Team3S: Transfer Case Confusion
There is also a non-reusable metal
seal that looks like a washer or metal
ring on each of the drain plugs and
fill plugs of the transaxle, transfer
case, and rear axle. If I
remember right, the ones on the rear axle are
copper and different between
drain and fill, and the other ones are all the
same and look like
Aluminum or something.
I think the transfer case is different between the
'93 5 speed transaxle and
the '94 6 speed. I don't know of any
differences within first generation.
The last mechanic I talked to (Clutch
Shop) said that the Getrag transfer
case was sensitive to overfilling, and we
were very careful adding fluid to
it.
Chuck
> -----Original
Message-----
> From: Gross, Erik [SMTP:erik.gross@intel.com]
> Sent:
Thursday, August 23, 2001 4:09 PM
> To: Team3S List (E-mail); Starnet 3Si
Mailing List (E-mail)
> Subject: Team3S: Transfer Case Confusion
>
>
> [ I'm in the process of tracking down a ]
>
[ small oil leak in my transfer case ]
> [ and/or transaxle.
]
>
> I've come across a few confusing things, and I'm wondering
whether anyone
> else has noticed this.
>
> Note: If
you don't have a service manual handy, you may want to glance at
> Jeff
Lucius's page to see the diagrams I'm talking about (thanks, Jeff!)
>
>
http://www.geocities.com/lutransys/jlucius/2-awddrainfill.htm>
> You can see my transfer case here:
>
http://pws.ihpc.net/erikgross/TC2.jpg>
http://pws.ihpc.net/erikgross/TC1.jpg>
> 1) Are all the transfer cases for the '91-'93 (5-speed) cars the
same,
> or are there two different transfer cases for the 5-speed
cars? I think
> the
> answer is that they're different as of
'93, but I'm beginning to wonder...
>
> 2) Are the '93 and '94+
transfer cases the same, or did they change
> them [again?] in '94?
There are only two pictures of the transfer cases
> in
> the service
manual, one for '92 and one for '93+.
>
> 3) Is the picture in the
service manual for the <from 1993 models>
> accurate for the 94+
transfer cases? Mine doesn't look anything like the
> one in the
picture! The drain plug is on the bottom in a similar position
> to
the picture, but there is NO oil level check plug, and the filler plug
>
is
> on the side (towards the front of the car) of the transfer
case! Has
> anyone
> with a 94+ (mine is a 95) car looked at
their transfer case? Does it
> match
> the '93+ picture from
the service manual? I'm totally confused.
>
> 4) Further,
Jeff's page says that the 93+ TC takes 0.3L of fluid, while
> my service
manual says 0.6L (and it takes between 0.6 and 0.75L to fill
>
it).
> What's going on here?
>
> 5) My transfer case
seemed to leak a little MORE after I filled it, and
> then it lessened as
I drove the car more. Since it seemed to take a
> little
>
over 0.6L to fill it, I'm wondering if the "fill it to 11mm below the
>
filler
> plug" rule applies to the '94+ transfer cases and not the
'91-'92. I
> remember someone saying that there was a vent on the
top of the TC and
> that
> if you over-filled it, it would leak out
there. It seems that my leak
> could
> be coming from either
above the TC or at the junction of the TC and
> transaxle (maybe it's the
seal).
>
> Argh... comments?
>
> --Erik
>
'95 VR-4 with undocumented transfer case
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Date: 24 Aug 2001 06:22:31
-0700
From: John Monnin <
jkmonnin@altavista.com>
Subject:
Team3S: Downpipe options
Another option is a custom downpipe made by Bob
Melton.
I paid $250 (Gaskets included) and there is a test pipe avialable for
extra.
3si Thread:
http://209.58.199.225/vbb/showthread.php?s=81168f1de286b711341b613e285f691c&threadid=26223Bob
Meltons homepage with pictures:
http://rdmelton.topcities.com/cars/stealth/downpipe2.htmlPros:
Large piping, Large flex section, Works with stock pre-cats and stock main-cats,
Aluminized steel so it is corrosion resistant. Flanges can spin so easier to
line up. Inexpensive
Cons: It Alumizied not stainless.
Aluminized will last at least twice as long as plain steel but it won't last as
long as stainless. Untested performance but I looks like it should perform as
well.
I bought the older style downpipe but have not installed it
yet. The older style (shown in picture) has (Qty 2) 2 1/2" pipes that meet
at a nice Y. The newer style is shown in links which has a 2 1/2" pipe
that merges into a 3" pipe. The reason I bought it was because I was on a
budget and this was the only pipe I found that had a flex section and worked
with main cat.
John Monnin
jkmonnin@altavista.com1991 VR-4
almost done with 4-bolt conversion...
My timing belt slipped in May of
2000...
With 2 kids free time is at a premium...
A portion riginal
Message below
>From: Merritt <
merritt@cedar-rapids.net>
>Subject: Team3S: Which downpipe?
> I am considering
ordering either an ATR downpipe
> with test pipe or the
>
Stillen downpipe (from Diablo). Both are about the
> same price.
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Date: 24 Aug 2001 06:23:50
-0700
From: John Monnin <
jkmonnin@altavista.com>
Subject:
Team3S: Downpipe options
Another option is a custom downpipe made by Bob
Melton.
I paid $250 (Gaskets included) and there is a test pipe avialable for
extra.
3si Thread:
http://209.58.199.225/vbb/showthread.php?s=81168f1de286b711341b613e285f691c&threadid=26223Bob
Meltons homepage with pictures:
http://rdmelton.topcities.com/cars/stealth/downpipe2.htmlPros:
Large piping, Large flex section, Works with stock pre-cats and stock main-cats,
Aluminized steel so it is corrosion resistant. Flanges can spin so easier to
line up. Inexpensive
Cons: It Alumizied not stainless.
Aluminized will last at least twice as long as plain steel but it won't last as
long as stainless. Untested performance but I looks like it should perform as
well.
I bought the older style downpipe but have not installed it
yet. The older style (shown in picture) has (Qty 2) 2 1/2" pipes that meet
at a nice Y. The newer style is shown in links which has a 2 1/2" pipe
that merges into a 3" pipe. The reason I bought it was because I was on a
budget and this was the only pipe I found that had a flex section and worked
with main cat.
John Monnin
jkmonnin@altavista.com1991 VR-4
almost done with 4-bolt conversion...
My timing belt slipped in May of
2000...
With 2 kids free time is at a premium...
A portion riginal
Message below
>From: Merritt <
merritt@cedar-rapids.net>
>Subject: Team3S: Which downpipe?
> I am considering
ordering either an ATR downpipe
> with test pipe or the
>
Stillen downpipe (from Diablo). Both are about the
> same
price.
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Date: 24 Aug 2001 08:46:49
-0500
From: Jon Bohlke <
bohlke_mobile@yahoo.com>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: New road course
Rich,
This is great,
now I just need to get moving on my mods! I am
thinking of coming up to
see some friends in Mt. Vernon this year,
hopefully I can get to Marshalltown
on that trip.
Jon
98 3000GT VR4
http://3000gt.websnout.comOn 23
Aug 2001 10:06:28 -0500, Merritt wrote:
> There is a new MidAmerica
Motorplex road course being built just south of
> Omaha.
>
>
We should start planning a 3000GT/Stealth racer's gathering there for
2002,
> because this one is within easier reach of folks in Chicago,
Milwaukee (SJ
> and Jack T) and Minneapolis (Oskar and Curt), plus the
crew from Colorado
> (Jim), Omaha (Mike), and Cedar Rapids (Cathy, my
daughter, and me). It's a
> long haul for Chuck in Houston, but it gives
him an excuse to visit his
> son, Mike, who is stationed in Omaha. For
Flash from Pittsburgh, it's
> probably the same distance as Topeka.
>
> Maybe we can expand the Fabulous Heartland Park Five to
a Tremendous Ten
> sometime in 2002.
>
> Can you imagine TEN
of us out there, harassing the M3s, 911s and NSXes? Whoa!
>
> Go
here to see a map:
http://www.midamericamotorplex.com/diagram.htm>
Open track events are already scheduled for all of 2002, and a list is
>
posted on the site.
>
> Rich
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Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 08:37:05
-0500
From: "Willis, Charles E." <
cewillis@TexasChildrensHospital.org>
Subject:
RE: Team3S: Teams 3s RE: Car lost Acceleration
Sorry to hear about your
problem, Lisa. I think the majority of the readers
already know that
the timing belt should be replaced at the 60K mile mark,
well before 100K,
and again at 120K. Your unhappy experience should drive
that message
home.
Chuck
> -----Original Message-----
> From: lisa
buccela [SMTP:buccela_lisa@hotmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, August 24, 2001
6:41 AM
> To:
Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
Subject: Team3S: Teams 3s RE: Car lost Acceleration
>
> Hi Team 3s,
I wrote last week complaining of a Stealth R/T (non-turbo)
> that
>
lost acceleration and then would not re-start. It turned out to be the
> timing belt, which caused damage to the valves, which means the Stealth
is
>
> still at the shop and it is going to cost a lot of money to
fix.
>
> So to all the Stealth and 3000 GT enthusiasts, please make
sure to change
> your timing belt before 100000 km, otherwise it is going
to cost you a
> bundle of money to fix all the other problems that occur
if it snaps while
>
> driving.
>
> Thanks for all the
advice, Team 3s
>
> Lisa
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Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 09:35:29
-0400
From: "Peter Howey" <
stimpy@freedomdrivingaids.com>
Subject:
Team3S: Stealth hubcap?!
Here's a real dumb-ass question - where is a
good place to find a wheel
insert [hubcap!] for a '94 Stealth
RT?
Cheers,
Peter M. Howey, MFA
MIS, Freedom Group, LLC
901
Salzburg Ave.
Bay City, MI 48706
989-895-9733 x12
989-895-9722
FAX
The sooner all of the animals are extinct, the sooner we'll find
where
they've been hiding their money.
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Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 10:29:31
-0400
From: "Roger J. Roskam" <
roger.roskam@home.com>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: Teams 3s RE: Car lost Acceleration
> Sorry to hear about
your problem, Lisa. I think the majority of the
readers
> already
know that the timing belt should be replaced at the 60K mile mark,
> well
before 100K, and again at 120K. Your unhappy experience should
drive
> that message home.
>
> Chuck
Chuck:
She was
talking kilometers. 60,000 miles = 100,000 kilometers = standard
timing
belt change interval.
Roger Roskam
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Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 09:26:25
-0500
From: "Mark Wendlandt" <
stealth_tt@hotmail.com>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: Transfer Case Confusion
>From: Jeff Lucius <
stealthman92@yahoo.com>
>I
have never seen a TC like that! At least not for 5-speeds. You guys
>with
6-speeds, does your TC look like that?
I just put a new clutch in Curt
Gendron's '95 Stealth and the xfer case was
the same as your pictures.
I've done 3 other 6spd and if I recall they were
all the same as your
pictures. I do know that I did not put .6qts in the
xfer case.
You need to make sure that the car is level when pumping in the
fluid.
The 6spds allow you to fill until it comes out the fill hole(<
.6qts). Unlike the earlier 5spds that required you to fill to 1/2"(or
something) below the hole.
I've done ~15 clutches in these cars and
this is what I have seen...
2 different 5spd xfer cases (18-spline and
25-spline, both cast aluminum)
1 6spd xfer case (25-spline, cast
iron)
There may be differences in the castings I don't recall, but I know
for sure
that not all of the casting are the same for the 5spd trannys or
the 6spd
trannys(different castings from 5spd to 5spd or 6spd to
6spd). Flanges will
be different, vent holes will be in a different
spot, etc. I'm sure the
innerds are the same, they just look different
externally. Same might apply
to xfer cases just not as
abvious.
Mark
'91RT/TT
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Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 10:33:14
-0400
From: "Roger J. Roskam" <
roger.roskam@home.com>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: Stealth hubcap?!
> Here's a real dumb-ass question - where
is a good place to find a wheel
> insert [hubcap!] for a '94 Stealth
RT?
>
Try any Dodge dealer - local or Internet. The backside
of the hubcap has
the part number. It's a Mitsu part number, but Mitsu
dealers don't have
"Dodge-specific" parts.
Be prepared for dealer
prices, however. I just paid $40 for the hubcap on
my '93 Stealth
chrome wheel.
Roger Roskam
91 Indy Stealth TT
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Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 09:38:56
-0500
From: "Willis, Charles E." <
cewillis@TexasChildrensHospital.org>
Subject:
RE: Team3S: Teams 3s RE: Car lost Acceleration
Duh? What with the
rest of the world that you can't just use English units?
What's this metric
system (System International) anyhow?
Another dumb American
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Roger J. Roskam
[SMTP:roger.roskam@home.com]
> Sent: Friday, August 24, 2001 9:30
AM
> To: Willis, Charles E.;
Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Teams 3s RE: Car lost Acceleration
>
> >
Sorry to hear about your problem, Lisa. I think the majority of
the
> readers
> > already know that the timing belt should be
replaced at the 60K mile
> mark,
> > well before 100K, and again
at 120K. Your unhappy experience should
> drive
> > that
message home.
> >
> > Chuck
>
>
>
Chuck:
> She was talking kilometers. 60,000 miles = 100,000
kilometers = standard
> timing belt change interval.
>
>
Roger Roskam
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Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 07:36:09
-0700
From: "Darc" <
wce@telus.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S:
Transfer Case Confusion
In the early days of this list there was a thread
on the differences between
transfer cases ( allot of talk then on this weak
link and inability to get
parts) .It was noted then that the 91-92 5
speeds had 2 different splines
(teeth number differed.) There may have been
slight visual differences as
well. I cannot speak to the 2nd generation
as I did not bother to remember
information which does not apply to my
car. However, I vaguely remember some
difference there as well (i.e. 95 is a
bit different than 93)
Best
Darc
- ----- Original Message
-----
From: "Willis, Charles E." <
cewillis@TexasChildrensHospital.org>
To:
"'Gross, Erik'" <
erik.gross@intel.com>; "Team3S List
(E-mail)"
<
team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
Sent:
Friday, August 24, 2001 6:15 AM
Subject: RE: Team3S: Transfer Case
Confusion
> There is also a non-reusable metal seal that looks like a
washer or metal
> ring on each of the drain plugs and fill plugs of the
transaxle, transfer
> case, and rear axle. If I remember right, the
ones on the rear axle are
> copper and different between drain and
fill, and the other ones are all
the
> same and look like
Aluminum or something.
>
> I think the transfer case is different
between the '93 5 speed transaxle
and
> the '94 6 speed. I don't
know of any differences within first generation.
> The last mechanic I
talked to (Clutch Shop) said that the Getrag transfer
> case was sensitive
to overfilling, and we were very careful adding fluid
to
>
it.
>
> Chuck
>
> > -----Original
Message-----
> > From: Gross, Erik [SMTP:erik.gross@intel.com]
>
> Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2001 4:09 PM
> > To: Team3S List
(E-mail); Starnet 3Si Mailing List (E-mail)
> > Subject: Team3S:
Transfer Case Confusion
> >
> >
> > [ I'm in
the process of tracking down a ]
> > [ small oil leak in my
transfer case ]
> > [ and/or transaxle. ]
> >
>
> I've come across a few confusing things, and I'm wondering
whether
anyone
> > else has noticed this.
> >
> >
Note: If you don't have a service manual handy, you may want to
glance
at
> > Jeff Lucius's page to see the diagrams I'm talking
about (thanks, Jeff!)
> >
> >
http://www.geocities.com/lutransys/jlucius/2-awddrainfill.htm>
>
> > You can see my transfer case here:
> >
http://pws.ihpc.net/erikgross/TC2.jpg>
>
http://pws.ihpc.net/erikgross/TC1.jpg>
>
> > 1) Are all the transfer cases for the '91-'93 (5-speed) cars
the same,
> > or are there two different transfer cases for the 5-speed
cars? I think
> > the
> > answer is that they're
different as of '93, but I'm beginning to
wonder...
> >
> >
2) Are the '93 and '94+ transfer cases the same, or did they change
> >
them [again?] in '94? There are only two pictures of the transfer
cases
> > in
> > the service manual, one for '92 and one for
'93+.
> >
> > 3) Is the picture in the service manual for the
<from 1993 models>
> > accurate for the 94+ transfer cases?
Mine doesn't look anything like
the
> > one in the picture!
The drain plug is on the bottom in a similar
position
> > to the
picture, but there is NO oil level check plug, and the filler
plug
>
> is
> > on the side (towards the front of the car) of the transfer
case! Has
> > anyone
> > with a 94+ (mine is a 95) car
looked at their transfer case? Does it
> > match
> > the
'93+ picture from the service manual? I'm totally confused.
>
>
> > 4) Further, Jeff's page says that the 93+ TC takes 0.3L of
fluid, while
> > my service manual says 0.6L (and it takes between 0.6
and 0.75L to fill
> > it).
> > What's going on here?
>
>
> > 5) My transfer case seemed to leak a little MORE after I
filled it, and
> > then it lessened as I drove the car more.
Since it seemed to take a
> > little
> > over 0.6L to fill it,
I'm wondering if the "fill it to 11mm below the
> > filler
> >
plug" rule applies to the '94+ transfer cases and not the '91-'92.
I
> > remember someone saying that there was a vent on the top of the
TC and
> > that
> > if you over-filled it, it would leak out
there. It seems that my leak
> > could
> > be coming
from either above the TC or at the junction of the TC and
> > transaxle
(maybe it's the seal).
> >
> > Argh... comments?
>
>
> > --Erik
> > '95 VR-4 with undocumented transfer
case
*** Info:
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***
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 07:46:11
-0700
From: "Darc" <
wce@telus.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Teams
3s RE: Car lost Acceleration
Hi Chuck;
Living in Canada, I
recognized the 100,000kms Lisa spoke of, as reading
kilometers, not miles.
That translates into 60,000 miles which is the
service increment required.
There is sometimes some confusion when K's are
used with miles (i.e. 60 k as
opposed to 60 kms means 60,000 miles as
opposed to 60 kilometers) . We
switched to metric up here years ago, but as
a mouse living next to an
elephant, we have continued to use both systems
out of necessity. Our
Canadian 3S cars have both kilometers and miles on the
speedometers, but
interestingly enough, have F instead of C on the climate
controls. Call us
hybrids ;-))
Best
Darc
- ----- Original Message -----
From:
"Willis, Charles E." <
cewillis@TexasChildrensHospital.org>
To:
"'lisa buccela'" <
buccela_lisa@hotmail.com>; <
Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
Sent:
Friday, August 24, 2001 6:37 AM
Subject: RE: Team3S: Teams 3s RE: Car lost
Acceleration
> Sorry to hear about your problem, Lisa. I
think the majority of the
readers
> already know that the timing belt
should be replaced at the 60K mile mark,
> well before 100K, and again at
120K. Your unhappy experience should drive
> that message
home.
>
> Chuck
>
> > -----Original
Message-----
> > From: lisa buccela
[SMTP:buccela_lisa@hotmail.com]
> > Sent: Friday, August 24, 2001 6:41
AM
> > To:
Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st> >
Subject: Team3S: Teams 3s RE: Car lost Acceleration
> >
> > Hi
Team 3s, I wrote last week complaining of a Stealth R/T (non-turbo)
> >
that
> > lost acceleration and then would not re-start. It turned
out to be the
> > timing belt, which caused damage to the valves, which
means the Stealth
is
> >
> > still at the shop and it is
going to cost a lot of money to fix.
> >
> > So to all the
Stealth and 3000 GT enthusiasts, please make sure to
change
> > your
timing belt before 100000 km, otherwise it is going to cost you a
> >
bundle of money to fix all the other problems that occur if it
snaps
while
> >
> > driving.
> >
> >
Thanks for all the advice, Team 3s
> >
> >
Lisa
*** Info:
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------------------------------
Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 10:19:43
-0500
From: "Willis, Charles E." <
cewillis@TexasChildrensHospital.org>
Subject:
RE: Team3S: Teams 3s RE: Car lost Acceleration
so back to the original
question - Lisa, what was the mileage, er,
kilometerage on your car at this
unfortunate event?
eh? (specific Canadian
content)
Chuck
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Darc
[SMTP:wce@telus.net]
> Sent: Friday, August 24, 2001 9:46 AM
> To:
Willis, Charles E.; 'lisa buccela';
Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Teams 3s RE: Car lost Acceleration
>
> Hi
Chuck;
>
> Living in Canada, I recognized the 100,000kms Lisa spoke
of, as reading
> kilometers, not miles. That translates into 60,000 miles
which is the
> service increment required. There is sometimes some
confusion when K's are
> used with miles (i.e. 60 k as opposed to 60 kms
means 60,000 miles as
> opposed to 60 kilometers) . We switched to
metric up here years ago, but
> as
> a mouse living next to an
elephant, we have continued to use both systems
> out of necessity. Our
Canadian 3S cars have both kilometers and miles on
> the
>
speedometers, but interestingly enough, have F instead of C on the
climate
> controls. Call us hybrids ;-))
>
> Best
>
> Darc
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Willis,
Charles E." <
cewillis@TexasChildrensHospital.org>
>
To: "'lisa buccela'" <
buccela_lisa@hotmail.com>;
>
<
Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
>
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2001 6:37 AM
> Subject: RE: Team3S: Teams 3s RE:
Car lost Acceleration
>
>
> > Sorry to hear about your
problem, Lisa. I think the majority of the
> readers
> >
already know that the timing belt should be replaced at the 60K mile
>
mark,
> > well before 100K, and again at 120K. Your unhappy
experience should
> drive
> > that message home.
>
>
> > Chuck
> >
> > > -----Original
Message-----
> > > From: lisa buccela
[SMTP:buccela_lisa@hotmail.com]
> > > Sent: Friday, August 24, 2001
6:41 AM
> > > To:
Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st> >
> Subject: Team3S: Teams 3s RE: Car lost Acceleration
> >
>
> > > Hi Team 3s, I wrote last week complaining of a Stealth
R/T (non-turbo)
> > > that
> > > lost acceleration and
then would not re-start. It turned out to be
> the
> > >
timing belt, which caused damage to the valves, which means the
>
Stealth
> is
> > >
> > > still at the shop and it
is going to cost a lot of money to fix.
> > >
> > > So
to all the Stealth and 3000 GT enthusiasts, please make sure to
>
change
> > > your timing belt before 100000 km, otherwise it is
going to cost you a
> > > bundle of money to fix all the other
problems that occur if it snaps
> while
> > >
> >
> driving.
> > >
> > > Thanks for all the advice,
Team 3s
> > >
> > > Lisa
*** Info:
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***
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 18:32:56
+0300
From: "Oleg Reznik" <
oleg@3000gt.lv>
Subject: Re: Team3S:
Transfer Case Confusion
In USA CAPS programm I see 3 numbers of transfer
case:
1. 1990-91.11.1 MB811033(MR165234) The same transfer, old and new
numbers.
2. 91.11.2-93.05.3 MB936389
3. 93.06.1 - 2000
MB896326
In Europe CAPS:
For all 5-speed MB936389
For all 6 speed
MB896326
Japan CAPS will be in my hand after 1 week, I'll see what they
have.
Interesting thing - there are 5-speed VR4 in Europe from 94.06
till
96.05!!!!! The CAPS show 5 and 6 speed cars at the same period till
may
1996.
Regards,
Oleg Reznik
www.3000gt.lv> In the early days of
this list there was a thread on the differences
between
> transfer
cases ( allot of talk then on this weak link and inability to get
> parts)
.It was noted then that the 91-92 5 speeds had 2 different splines
>
(teeth number differed.) There may have been slight visual differences
as
> well. I cannot speak to the 2nd generation as I did not bother
to
remember
> information which does not apply to my car. However, I
vaguely remember
some
> difference there as well (i.e. 95 is a bit
different than 93)
>
> Best
>
> Darc
> -----
Original Message -----
> From: "Willis, Charles E." <
cewillis@TexasChildrensHospital.org>
>
To: "'Gross, Erik'" <
erik.gross@intel.com>; "Team3S List
(E-mail)"
> <
team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
>
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2001 6:15 AM
> Subject: RE: Team3S: Transfer Case
Confusion
>
>
> > There is also a non-reusable metal seal
that looks like a washer or
metal
> > ring on each of the drain
plugs and fill plugs of the transaxle,
transfer
> > case, and rear
axle. If I remember right, the ones on the rear axle are
> >
copper and different between drain and fill, and the other ones are
all
> the
> > same and look like Aluminum or something.
>
>
> > I think the transfer case is different between the '93 5 speed
transaxle
> and
> > the '94 6 speed. I don't know of any
differences within first
generation.
> > The last mechanic I talked
to (Clutch Shop) said that the Getrag
transfer
> > case was
sensitive to overfilling, and we were very careful adding fluid
>
to
> > it.
> >
> > Chuck
> >
> >
> -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Gross, Erik
[SMTP:erik.gross@intel.com]
> > > Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2001
4:09 PM
> > > To: Team3S List (E-mail); Starnet 3Si Mailing List
(E-mail)
> > > Subject: Team3S: Transfer Case Confusion
> >
>
> > >
> > > [ I'm in the process of tracking
down a ]
> > > [ small oil leak in my transfer case ]
>
> > [ and/or transaxle. ]
> > >
> > > I've
come across a few confusing things, and I'm wondering whether
>
anyone
> > > else has noticed this.
> > >
> >
> Note: If you don't have a service manual handy, you may want
to
glance
> at
> > > Jeff Lucius's page to see the diagrams
I'm talking about (thanks,
Jeff!)
> > >
> > >
http://www.geocities.com/lutransys/jlucius/2-awddrainfill.htm>
> >
> > > You can see my transfer case here:
> > >
http://pws.ihpc.net/erikgross/TC2.jpg>
> >
http://pws.ihpc.net/erikgross/TC1.jpg>
> >
> > > 1) Are all the transfer cases for the '91-'93
(5-speed) cars the same,
> > > or are there two different transfer
cases for the 5-speed cars? I
think
> > > the
> >
> answer is that they're different as of '93, but I'm beginning to
>
wonder...
> > >
> > > 2) Are the '93 and '94+ transfer
cases the same, or did they change
> > > them [again?] in '94?
There are only two pictures of the transfer
cases
> > >
in
> > > the service manual, one for '92 and one for '93+.
>
> >
> > > 3) Is the picture in the service manual for the
<from 1993 models>
> > > accurate for the 94+ transfer
cases? Mine doesn't look anything like
> the
> > > one
in the picture! The drain plug is on the bottom in a similar
>
position
> > > to the picture, but there is NO oil level check plug,
and the filler
> plug
> > > is
> > > on the side
(towards the front of the car) of the transfer case! Has
> > >
anyone
> > > with a 94+ (mine is a 95) car looked at their transfer
case? Does it
> > > match
> > > the '93+ picture
from the service manual? I'm totally confused.
> > >
>
> > 4) Further, Jeff's page says that the 93+ TC takes 0.3L of
fluid,
while
> > > my service manual says 0.6L (and it takes
between 0.6 and 0.75L to
fill
> > > it).
> > > What's
going on here?
> > >
> > > 5) My transfer case seemed to
leak a little MORE after I filled it,
and
> > > then it lessened
as I drove the car more. Since it seemed to take a
> > >
little
> > > over 0.6L to fill it, I'm wondering if the "fill it to
11mm below the
> > > filler
> > > plug" rule applies to
the '94+ transfer cases and not the '91-'92. I
> > > remember
someone saying that there was a vent on the top of the TC and
> > >
that
> > > if you over-filled it, it would leak out there. It
seems that my leak
> > > could
> > > be coming from
either above the TC or at the junction of the TC and
> > > transaxle
(maybe it's the seal).
> > >
> > > Argh...
comments?
> > >
> > > --Erik
> > > '95 VR-4
with undocumented transfer case
*** Info:
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***
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 11:42:40
-0400
From: "Darren Schilberg" <
dschilberg@pobox.com>
Subject: RE:
Team3S: Transfer Case Confusion
How are there 5-speed VR-4 trannies in
Europe? I know they ONLY imported
the VR-4 (from what I have heard) but
aren't all VR-4s after, what is it,
1993 the 6-speed variety?
And
Chuck you will notice that 94.06 is actually 06/1994 in America.
-
--Flash!
dschilberg@pobox.comwww.speedtoys.com/~dschilberg -----Original
Message-----
From:
owner-team3s@team3s.com
[mailto:owner-team3s@team3s.com] On Behalf
Of Oleg Reznik
Sent:
Friday, August 24, 2001 11:33 AM
To: Team3S
Subject: Re: Team3S: Transfer
Case Confusion
In USA CAPS programm I see 3 numbers of transfer
case:
1. 1990-91.11.1 MB811033(MR165234) The same transfer, old and new
numbers.
2. 91.11.2-93.05.3 MB936389
3. 93.06.1 - 2000
MB896326
In Europe CAPS:
For all 5-speed MB936389
For all 6 speed
MB896326
Japan CAPS will be in my hand after 1 week, I'll see what they
have.
Interesting thing - there are 5-speed VR4 in Europe from 94.06
till
96.05!!!!! The CAPS show 5 and 6 speed cars at the same period till
may
1996.
Regards,
Oleg Reznik
www.3000gt.lv*** Info:
http://www.Team3S.com/Rules.htm
***
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 11:50:16
-0400
From: "Jeff VanOrsdal" <
jeffv@1nce.com>
Subject: Team3S: RE: Euro
CAPS and JDM CAPS (was Transfer case confusion)
Oleg, would it be
possible for you to distribute the Japanese and European
copies of CAPS that
you're getting? I have been trying to get ahold of
these databases for
months. If there is any way that you could work out a
download for the
list, I'm sure it would be greatly appreciated by many
people besides
myself.
Jeff VanOrsdal
1991 Stealth ESX Twin Turbo
jeffv@1nce.com- -----Original
Message-----
From:
owner-team3s@team3s.com
[mailto:owner-team3s@team3s.com]On Behalf
Of Darren Schilberg
Sent:
Friday, August 24, 2001 11:43 AM
To: Team3S
Subject: RE: Team3S: Transfer
Case Confusion
How are there 5-speed VR-4 trannies in Europe? I
know they ONLY imported
the VR-4 (from what I have heard) but aren't all
VR-4s after, what is it,
1993 the 6-speed variety?
And Chuck you will
notice that 94.06 is actually 06/1994 in America.
- --Flash!
dschilberg@pobox.comwww.speedtoys.com/~dschilberg -----Original
Message-----
From:
owner-team3s@team3s.com
[mailto:owner-team3s@team3s.com] On Behalf
Of Oleg Reznik
Sent:
Friday, August 24, 2001 11:33 AM
To: Team3S
Subject: Re: Team3S: Transfer
Case Confusion
In USA CAPS programm I see 3 numbers of transfer
case:
1. 1990-91.11.1 MB811033(MR165234) The same transfer, old and new
numbers.
2. 91.11.2-93.05.3 MB936389
3. 93.06.1 - 2000
MB896326
In Europe CAPS:
For all 5-speed MB936389
For all 6 speed
MB896326
Japan CAPS will be in my hand after 1 week, I'll see what they
have.
Interesting thing - there are 5-speed VR4 in Europe from 94.06
till
96.05!!!!! The CAPS show 5 and 6 speed cars at the same period till
may
1996.
Regards,
Oleg Reznik
www.3000gt.lv*** Info:
http://www.Team3S.com/Rules.htm
***
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 18:55:34
+0300
From: "Oleg Reznik" <
oleg@3000gt.lv>
Subject: Team3S: Tein
HA
Hi guys,
Just received Tein HA dampers. Looks great! Will
instal Monday only, more
info coming soon.
For all of you who live outside
US or may be US also(may be it will be
cheaper?) I can give all ammounts that
I payed for it.
HA Dampers with pillow ball mounts 186000JPN=$1546
EMS 3
days shipping 53200JPN=$442
Documentation charge? 3000JPN=$25
Total:
$2013
The shipping is very high, but for US or EU country will be much
cheaper.
There was not any custom taxes, because stupid custom guy can't
calculate
japan invoice to our local currency and I received package without
any
taxes:)))
Regards,
Oleg Reznik
www.3000gt.lv*** Info:
http://www.Team3S.com/Rules.htm
***
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 11:04:25
-0500
From: "Willis, Charles E." <
cewillis@TexasChildrensHospital.org>
Subject:
RE: Team3S: Transfer Case Confusion
Thanks for the date translation,
Flash!
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Darren Schilberg
[SMTP:dschilberg@pobox.com]
> Sent: Friday, August 24, 2001 10:43
AM
> To: Team3S
> Subject: RE: Team3S: Transfer Case
Confusion
>
> How are there 5-speed VR-4 trannies in Europe?
I know they ONLY imported
> the VR-4 (from what I have heard) but aren't
all VR-4s after, what is it,
> 1993 the 6-speed variety?
>
>
And Chuck you will notice that 94.06 is actually 06/1994 in America.
>
> --Flash!
>
dschilberg@pobox.com>
www.speedtoys.com/~dschilberg>
> -----Original Message-----
> From:
owner-team3s@team3s.com
[mailto:owner-team3s@team3s.com] On
> Behalf
> Of Oleg
Reznik
> Sent: Friday, August 24, 2001 11:33 AM
> To: Team3S
>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Transfer Case Confusion
>
> In USA CAPS
programm I see 3 numbers of transfer case:
> 1. 1990-91.11.1
MB811033(MR165234) The same transfer, old and new numbers.
> 2.
91.11.2-93.05.3 MB936389
> 3. 93.06.1 - 2000 MB896326
>
> In Europe CAPS:
> For all 5-speed MB936389
> For all 6
speed MB896326
>
> Japan CAPS will be in my hand after 1 week, I'll
see what they have.
>
> Interesting thing - there are 5-speed VR4
in Europe from 94.06 till
> 96.05!!!!! The CAPS show 5 and 6 speed cars at
the same period till may
> 1996.
>
> Regards,
>
> Oleg Reznik
>
www.3000gt.lv*** Info:
http://www.Team3S.com/Rules.htm
***
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 11:06:27
-0500
From: "Willis, Charles E." <
cewillis@TexasChildrensHospital.org>
Subject:
RE: Team3S: Tein HA
for dumb Americans, dampers=shocks!
>
-----Original Message-----
> From: Oleg Reznik
[SMTP:oleg@3000gt.lv]
> Sent: Friday, August 24, 2001 10:56 AM
> To:
Team3S
> Subject: Team3S: Tein HA
>
> Hi guys,
>
> Just received Tein HA dampers. Looks great! Will instal Monday only,
more
> info coming soon.
> For all of you who live outside US or may
be US also(may be it will be
> cheaper?) I can give all ammounts that I
payed for it.
> HA Dampers with pillow ball mounts 186000JPN=$1546
>
EMS 3 days shipping 53200JPN=$442
> Documentation charge?
3000JPN=$25
> Total: $2013
> The shipping is very high, but for US
or EU country will be much cheaper.
> There was not any custom taxes,
because stupid custom guy can't calculate
> japan invoice to our local
currency and I received package without any
> taxes:)))
>
>
Regards,
> Oleg Reznik
>
www.3000gt.lv*** Info:
http://www.Team3S.com/Rules.htm
***
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 19:02:33
+0300
From: "Oleg Reznik" <
oleg@3000gt.lv>
Subject: Re: Team3S: RE:
Euro CAPS and JDM CAPS (was Transfer case confusion)
Jeff,
The
Japan CAPS include 5 cd, the European 1-2cd (different versions). I
can't
post it in the net by myself, but I can make a copies and send it
to
US.
Regards,
Oleg Reznik
www.3000gt.lv> Oleg, would it be
possible for you to distribute the Japanese and European
> copies of CAPS
that you're getting? I have been trying to get ahold of
> these
databases for months. If there is any way that you could work out
a
> download for the list, I'm sure it would be greatly appreciated by
many
> people besides myself.
>
> Jeff VanOrsdal
> 1991
Stealth ESX Twin Turbo
>
jeffv@1nce.com>
> -----Original
Message-----
> From:
owner-team3s@team3s.com
[mailto:owner-team3s@team3s.com]On Behalf
> Of Darren Schilberg
>
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2001 11:43 AM
> To: Team3S
> Subject: RE:
Team3S: Transfer Case Confusion
>
>
> How are there 5-speed
VR-4 trannies in Europe? I know they ONLY imported
> the VR-4 (from
what I have heard) but aren't all VR-4s after, what is it,
> 1993 the
6-speed variety?
>
> And Chuck you will notice that 94.06 is
actually 06/1994 in America.
>
> --Flash!
>
dschilberg@pobox.com>
www.speedtoys.com/~dschilberg>
>
-----Original Message-----
> From:
owner-team3s@team3s.com
[mailto:owner-team3s@team3s.com] On Behalf
> Of Oleg Reznik
>
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2001 11:33 AM
> To: Team3S
> Subject: Re:
Team3S: Transfer Case Confusion
>
> In USA CAPS programm I see 3
numbers of transfer case:
> 1. 1990-91.11.1 MB811033(MR165234) The same
transfer, old and new numbers.
> 2. 91.11.2-93.05.3 MB936389
> 3.
93.06.1 - 2000 MB896326
>
> In Europe CAPS:
> For all
5-speed MB936389
> For all 6 speed MB896326
>
> Japan CAPS
will be in my hand after 1 week, I'll see what they have.
>
>
Interesting thing - there are 5-speed VR4 in Europe from 94.06 till
>
96.05!!!!! The CAPS show 5 and 6 speed cars at the same period till may
>
1996.
>
> Regards,
>
> Oleg Reznik
>
www.3000gt.lv*** Info:
http://www.Team3S.com/Rules.htm
***
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 11:56:45
-0400
From: "Accelerated Accessories" <
meyer2@erols.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S:
Tein HA
Just for the record, I still have a complete TEIN HA kit w/
pillow ball
mounts in stock. I will sell them for $2000.00 and
shipping is free.
We are in Maryland and accept all major credit
cards.
Matt Meyer
www.AcceleratedAccessories.com-
-----Original Message-----
From: Oleg Reznik <
oleg@3000gt.lv>
To: Team3S <
Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
Date:
Friday, August 24, 2001 11:55 AM
Subject: Team3S: Tein HA
>Hi
guys,
>
>Just received Tein HA dampers. Looks great! Will instal
Monday only, more
>info coming soon.
>For all of you who live
outside US or may be US also(may be it will be
>cheaper?) I can give all
ammounts that I payed for it.
>HA Dampers with pillow ball mounts
186000JPN=$1546
>EMS 3 days shipping 53200JPN=$442
>Documentation
charge? 3000JPN=$25
>Total: $2013
>The shipping is very high, but
for US or EU country will be much cheaper.
>There was not any custom
taxes, because stupid custom guy can't calculate
>japan invoice to our
local currency and I received package without
any
>taxes:)))
>
>Regards,
>Oleg
Reznik
>www.3000gt.lv
*** Info:
http://www.Team3S.com/Rules.htm
***
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 09:06:35
-0700
From: Yoss <
yoss@aracnet.com>
Subject: Team3S:
High-pitch whistle
noise
Folks:
Lately,
I've been hearing a short burst of high-pitch whistle
noise
whenever I get out of
sustained boost. I would appreciate any help
in
diagnosing the
problem.
Thanks
- -sankar
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Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 12:15:01
-0400
From: "Zobel, Kurt" <
KURT.ZOBEL@ca.com>
Subject: RE:
Team3S: CAM upgrade
Rich,
This is great news!
Stock
springs are ok with the regrind?
Does anyone have any measured test
performance figures?
I looked for a few months several years ago and
gave up on CAM upgrades, could not find anything.
Kurt /
skyrider
- -----Original Message-----
From: Richard
[mailto:radanc@home.com]
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2001 9:33 PM
Cc:
Team3S
Subject: Team3S: CAM upgrade
Hello all,
Just
received my reground cams from Kelford Camtech. My new specs are In
280
deg Ex 280 deg, lift In 0.230" Ex 0.210". This should easily allow
8k
RPM with no bottom end sacrifice.
Here is what I have learned:
I
found 3 sources to regrind CAMS for our
cars:
GIWASA
Kelford
Scheider Cams
I decided on Kelford due
to cost and experience.
Here is what they can do:
I didn't want to
take my cams out for obvious reasons and wanted to save
some stock setting
cams. Kelford has a grind kit advertised on their
site for our cars. Japanese
imports are the most common cars in NZ and
the 3000 GTO kit is their most
common one! They can even source cams
their to save the cost of shipping your
cams to them. The currency
exchange rate is very favorable so it cost
me:
$560 NZ for sourced cams
$520 NZ reprofiled and lash caps
$196
shipping
This was only $550 US for the whole deal!
The regrind kit
works well with the stock ECU and they advertise
approximately 10% increase
in performance in the mid to top end.
They can also hard overlay the
cams for much bigger profiles, but engine
management is required at this
stage. The charge for the hard overlay is
$1300NZ. The hard overlay will work
on the factory ECU but is likely to
result in rough running at the low end
and idle has to be raised to
about 1200 RPM. The factory management system
dosn't handle the pulsing
caused by extra overlap well. This kit allows more
power at same revs,
but the tighter lobe centers hurt the bottom end making
the power curve
more peaked. The overlay is a hard material (60 Rockwell)
welded onto
the original lobes and re-profiled.
The kit grind pulls
and extra 1k RPM with everything else stock which
allows you to run right to
the limiter without need of early shifting.
They like to customize grinds
based upon the mods you are running for
optimal performance.
Schneider
dosn't have any experience with our cars but will regrind for
$75 US a
peice.
GIWASA also dosn't have much experience with our cars but
would
reprofile based upon individual specs and mods Price is $1100 for
work
and treatment.
You can reach Kelford at
team@kelford.co.nz or check out their
website.
They were just bought out by Crane or someone big in this area,
Can't
recall who now.
Happy Camming!
Rich
92 Stealth
TT
